Kurdish Forces: Two American Jihadists Captured

By Darren Smith, Weekend Contributor

Source: Syrian Democratic Forces


Kurdish Democratic Forces in Syria report the arrest of two Americans allegedly fighting with or aiding the Islamic State terrorist organization in Syria.  The two men are identified as Warren Christopher Clark, 34, of Texas and Zaid Abed al-Hamed, 35.

They were captured by the Kurds during a counter-terrorism raid near the Iraq border in the vicinity of one of the few remaining holds of ISIS in Syria. Prior to their capture, the two, along with a Pakistani National and a male reportedly from Ireland, were preparing an attack against civilians fleeing the battlefields.

The Kurds made the announcement last Sunday and U.S. Army Colonel Scott Rawlinson reports the incident is under investigation.

Military.com provided the following information:

Under the alias Abu Muhammad al-Ameriki, Clark had submitted an application seeking to join ISIS as an English teacher in Mosul, which had served as the Iraqi capital of ISIS’s physical caliphate from summer 2014 until it was liberated by U.S.-backed and trained Iraqi forces in summer 2017. Using the application’s resume and sources in Texas, researchers identified Clark as a University of Houston graduate who had converted to Islam in 2004 and was radicalized after viewing jihadist videos online, NBC News reported earlier this year. He had worked as a substitute teacher in Texas before traveling to Saudi Arabia to teach English for two years and then going to Turkey.

By Darren Smith

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144 thoughts on “Kurdish Forces: Two American Jihadists Captured”

  1. Tom Nash — I forgot that not all have subscriptions to TNYT. In your case I hope that you remedy the situation.

    1. For years, I had subscriptions to 3 daily newspapers; the local one, the New York Times, and The WS Journal.
      Plus 3-4 weekly or monthly magazines.
      Over time, the internet changed that.
      Now, in most cases, I don’t subscribe to either print or online publications; I have the Reuters app, use Google News as a clearinghouse, etc.

      1. Right. However, given the especial role of TNYT, you might care to try the online subscription.

        1. It sounds like there is a comedian in our midst. David, The New York Times is special. It brought us news from Stalin’s Russia via Walter Duranty which was totally untrue and burried the facts when millions were dying. If one were to read those Pulitzer Prize stories one would think them to be a joke if it didn’t represent such horrid lying news reporting.

            1. “Don’t believe everything you read.”

              Who knows what you are trying to say? You could be saying that Duranty was right about Stalin. After all a good number of your comments come from that direction.

                1. OK. Now, David, go look at your posting and see how many different interpretations there are to it. Brevity is great except when it causes confusion.

  2. Tom Nash — look in the Urban Dictionary for the definition of
    i g n o r a t i.
    You will see that it is descriptive, not a pejorative.

      1. However, “ignoramus”, while descriptive, certainly at least borders on being pejorative.

        1. I think that your claim was that “the ignorati” was not pejorative, and you recommended looking at the Urban Dictionary definition.
          That’s what I did, and the link I provided gives the definition.

  3. Hmm. All 3 of the variations on “ignorant” posted as separate comments but now are gone.

  4. Tom Nash — I don’t use insulting names; doing so is self-demeaning.

    I rarely include links as it is quite difficult on this hand-held device. Clearly you were able to find the article with the information that I provided.

    But you didn’t read it with comprehension. For it clearly states that of the 3 capturees only Clark is an American citizen.

    Now every ranking service states that TNYT is highly factual. But one does have to know how to read with comprehension.

    Irreverently and irrelevantly, my mother used to own a Nash Metropolitan convertible; fun to drive around Los Alamos.

    1. In the absence of providing links, you might at least give the title and/ or author of the article that you mention.
      Those who rely on these columns, in addition to what is reported in tge WaPo, BBC, etc.are presumably among those that you described as “the ignorati”.
      I’m glad to hear that you don’t “use insulting names”.😏

    2. https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvdizzy.com%2Fimages%2Ft%2F3rdrock1-20.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvdizzy.com%2F3rdrockfromthesun-season1.html&docid=s_iI86zsOJ6ueM&tbnid=DpXU6pGQUsEYLM%3A&vet=1&w=320&h=240&hl=en-US&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim
      Was your mother an alien?; Nash and Rambler products seem to be favored by aliens.😀
      I’ve noticed a lot of Nash police vehicles in old movies from the 1950s. I don’t think they had very much HP, but for whatever reason a lot of PDs used them.
      My folks had a 1956 Buick Century, aka “The Banker’s Hot Rod”. They were very fast for their time; Broderick Crawford drove one for years as both marked and unmarked vehicles in the series Highway Patrol.

    3. David – I don’t understand the difficulty with posting links with a phone. I do it all the time. You go though the exact same steps that you would on an iPad. I assume Android phones would be similar. Copying and pasting a link is easy on a phone and conducive to supporting your position.

      1. But I know nothing about iPads, so the “advice” is worthless.

        You will have to use the reference data I give plus your search engine. Actually do a little intellectual work.

        1. David Benson,

          You prove once again that you are undeserving of anyone’s help, given your proclivity to insult and belittle everyone here.

          Do not expect anyone to provide assistance to you if you have trouble with the website, lost a comment to the spam filter or whatever it might be because you will not get it.

          I can say without reservation that of all the persons who comment here I have seen over nearly seven years, you have shown yourself to be one of the most arrogant, (and undeservingly so) rude, uncivil, and meritless commentators who have trolled the website.

          I am quickly reaching the limit of tolerating your uncivil behavior and if you don’t stop this behavior it is likely to lead to a result you will find unappealing.

          1. I don’t call other commenters names. However, it appears acceptable that others can call me names.

            I do attempt to call out untruths, in no uncertain terms, when I identify such. I had a that an important reason for free speech.

            On this particular matter, it is solely a matter of the way this hand-held device functions; I didn’t ask for the assistance of Karen S or you.

            From
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall
            we find the quotation
            “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend … your right to say it.”

            I would have thought that @ Jonathan Turley’s blog, that principles would hold.

            1. “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend … your right to say it.”

              David, you and those you most often agree with don’t seem to believe in the right of free speech when it disagrees with their opinions. That is why we see groups like antifa adn BLM violently acting out in the streets to prevent others from speaking.

                1. “I disapprove of ANTIFA.”

                  Good, David. Do you disapprove of the actions of BDS that are similar to those of antifa?

                    1. For the most part Antifa are legitimate and peaceful; the anarchists cause the trouble. And, BLM is very restrained in their approach so as usual you are wrong.

                    2. “For the **most part** Antifa are legitimate and peaceful”

                      YNOT, I don’t know what Antifa members do with the rest of their time but you are dumber than Sh–.

                      Picked out specially from a left wing newspaper.

                      After ‘antifa’ violence, Berkeley debates whether Milo Yiannopoulos and other conservatives are welcome

                      https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-berkeley-far-left-protests-milo-20170830-story.html

                      The proof on both accounts is well docuumented all over the net so I won’t bother quoting page after page. It’s hard to believe one can be as ignorant as you are.

  5. It is disheartening when those blessed enough to be American citizens turn against her. If they want to live in the Stone Age without any of our freedoms, then they are free to leave and live somewhere else. But to raise a hand to help our enemies is treason. ISIS wants a global caliphate. I suspect that it’s going to be a never ending fight to keep pushing back agains various terrorist organizations trying to revive the Muslim Expansion at the point of the sword. If it weren’t for the Crusades, Europe would have remained in Islamic hands, and it would have spread.

    I hope that peaceful, moderate, Westernized Muslims’ voices grow louder than the radicals, but if history is any guide, it’s unlikely. I cannot understand the lure of radicalization.

  6. Breaking News On Saturday:

    TRUMP SEIZED NOTES FROM INTERPRETERS

    NO TRANSCRIPT EXISTS OF 2017 MEETING WITH PUTIN

    The meeting in Hamburg happened several months after The Washington Post and other news organizations revealed details about what Trump had told senior Russian officials during a meeting with Russian officials in the Oval Office. Trump disclosed classified information about a terror plot, called former FBI director James B. Comey a “nut job,” and said that firing Comey had removed “great pressure” on his relationship with Russia.

    The White House launched internal leak hunts after that and other episodes, and sharply curtailed the distribution within the National Security Council of memos on the president’s interactions with foreign leaders.

    “Over time it got harder and harder, I think, because of a sense from Trump himself that the leaks of the call transcripts were harmful to him,” said a former administration official.

    Senior Democratic lawmakers describe the cloak of secrecy surrounding Trump’s meetings with Putin as unprecedented and disturbing.

    It is not clear whether Trump has taken notes from interpreters on other occasions, but several officials said they were never able to get a reliable readout of the president’s two-hour meeting in Helsinki. Unlike in Hamburg, Trump allowed no Cabinet officials or any aides to be in the room for that conversation.

    Trump also had other private conversations with Putin at meetings of global leaders outside the presence of aides. He spoke at length with Putin at a banquet at the same 2017 global conference in Hamburg, where only Putin’s interpreter was present. Trump also had a brief conversation with Putin at a Group of 20 summit in Buenos Aires last month.

    Trump generally has allowed aides to listen to his phone conversations with Putin, although Russia has often been first to disclose those calls when they occur and release statements characterizing them in broad terms favorable to the Kremlin.

    In an email, Tillerson said that he “was present for the entirety of the two presidents’ official bilateral meeting in Hamburg,” but declined to discuss the meeting and did not respond to questions about whether Trump had instructed the interpreter to remain silent or had taken the interpreter’s notes.

    Edited from: “Trump Has Concealed Details Of His Face To Face Encounters With Putin From Administration Officials”.

    Today’s WASHINGTON POST

    1. RE. ABOVE:

      The Wa Po story is extensive. It seems that Trump met with Putin several times during that 2017 conference in Hamburg. They then met spent more time together last summer in Helsinki. But each time Trump made sure the meetings were largely off-record. At one point he conferred with Putin using only Putin’s interpreter.

      PERHAPS WE’RE LEAVING SYRIA AS A FAVOR TO PUTIN

      1. “PERHAPS WE’RE LEAVING SYRIA AS A FAVOR TO PUTIN”

        Perhaps the President is acting to prevent us from being involved in so many wars and to encourage regional powers to learn how to deal with one another. I suggest Peter and some of his friends go to Syria to replace any troops that leave. I will provide and pay for the Band Aids. When you return from Syria I will provide you with a lifetime supply of Valium that you presently probably have to pay for.

    2. Trump met with Putin, the Russian leader, just like so many other Presidents have met. No, the notes of the meeting should not be published for national security reasons and to preserve the ability of our enemies to talk freely without having their words revealed by a newspaper that has no interest in the truth or in national security.

      Bravo to Trump for taking the matter in his own hands and preserving the ability to negotiate peaceful solutions instead of bringing us closer to war. We have seen the lack of security concerns of some leaders of our intelligence community that have inappropriately released information along with lying to Congress. We don’t need the WaPo or the NYTimes making foreign policy. We elected a President to do that.

  7. Sometimes there are slow landslides. Currently there is one about 200 km from here.

    An analog for what is happening inside the Beltway with now spillover all across the country.

  8. Abraham Lincoln would like to say a few words on this subject. Go ahead, Abe.

    Ahem…

    “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

    “If all earthly power were given me,” said Lincoln in a speech delivered in Peoria, Illinois, on October 16, 1854, “I should not know what to do, as to the existing institution [of slavery]. My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia, to their own native land.” After acknowledging that this plan’s “sudden execution is impossible,” he asked whether freed blacks should be made “politically and socially our equals?” “My own feelings will not admit of this,” he said, “and [even] if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not … We can not, then, make them equals.”

    1. Alexander Hamilton would like to add something briefly. Al…

      “The influx of foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities. In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all-important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”

      1. “…whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”

        “…a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities.”

        – Alexander Hamilton
        ________

        “Multiculturalism is terminal.”

        “Integration is mortal.”

  9. NO SURPRISE!

    AFTER COMEY’S TERMINATION..

    FBI SERIOUSLY WONDERED ABOUT TRUMP AND RUSSIA

    After Mr. Comey was fired on May 9, 2017, two more of Mr. Trump’s actions prompted them to quickly abandon those reservations.

    The first was a letter Mr. Trump wanted to send to Mr. Comey about his firing, but never did, in which he mentioned the Russia investigation. In the letter, Mr. Trump thanked Mr. Comey for previously telling him he was not a subject of the F.B.I.’s Russia investigation.

    Even after the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, wrote a more restrained draft of the letter and told Mr. Trump that he did not have to mention the Russia investigation — Mr. Comey’s poor handling of the Clinton email investigation would suffice as a fireable offense, he explained — Mr. Trump directed Mr. Rosenstein to mention the Russia investigation anyway.

    He disregarded the president’s order, irritating Mr. Trump. The president ultimately added a reference to the Russia investigation to the note he had delivered, thanking Mr. Comey for telling him three times that he was not under investigation.

    The second event that troubled investigators was an NBC News interview two days after Mr. Comey’s firing in which Mr. Trump appeared to say he had dismissed Mr. Comey because of the Russia inquiry.

    “I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it,” he said. “And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself — I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.”

    Mr. Trump’s aides have said that a fuller examination of his comments demonstrates that he did not fire Mr. Comey to end the Russia inquiry. “I might even lengthen out the investigation, but I have to do the right thing for the American people,” Mr. Trump added. “He’s the wrong man for that position.”

    As F.B.I. officials debated whether to open the investigation, some of them pushed to move quickly before Mr. Trump appointed a director who might slow down or even end their investigation into Russia’s interference. Many involved in the case viewed Russia as the chief threat to American democratic values.

    “With respect to Western ideals and who it is and what it is we stand for as Americans, Russia poses the most dangerous threat to that way of life,” Ms. Page told investigators for a joint House Judiciary and Oversight Committee investigation into Moscow’s election interference.

    F.B.I. officials viewed their decision to move quickly as validated when a comment the president made to visiting Russian officials in the Oval Office shortly after he fired Mr. Comey was revealed days later.

    “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to a document summarizing the meeting. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

    Edited from: “FBI Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working On Behalf Of Russia”

    THE NEW YORK TIMES, 1/11/19

    1. KEY PARAGRAPH FROM ABOVE

      He (Rosenstein) disregarded the president’s order, irritating Mr. Trump. The president ultimately added a reference to the Russia investigation to the note he had delivered, thanking Mr. Comey for telling him three times that he was not under investigation.
      …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

      Doesn’t that sound like Donald Trump; ‘insisting that he reference the Russia investigation in his post-termination letter to Comey’?

      No politician with any savvy would think of referencing the Russia investigation under those circumstances. But Trump insisted because it allowed him an opening to thank Mr Comey ‘three times’ for telling him he was ‘not’ under investigation. In Trump’s mind that sounded smart.

      1. What are you trying to do? Break their bubble? It won’t work, their minds are made up and they are still waiting for Trump to “LOCK HER UP” and of course the wall…….

        1. FishWing’s postings supporting PH sound like a tiny dog yapping. Sit FishWings, sit.

      2. “No politician with any savvy would think of referencing the Russia investigation under those circumstances.”

        Peter, you might be right and no politician would think of some of the things Trump has done. That is precisely why Trump was elected President. The people were fed up with politicians that lied just like you lie and they decided to try a non politician who seemed to be able to get the job done. And he has, living up to most of his campaign promises something other Presidents didn’t do. Peter, you seem to have an aversion to the truth.

        I am waiting patiently for you to accept my offer so that we can discuss what actually is reported at Fox News. Since you were unable in two attempts to make a cogent argument I guess you are leaving that type of debate with your tail between your legs. It would have been an interesting debate because I seek the truth. You don’t and that is why such a debate will never take place. I keep the offer open, but all I can see is one that runs away.

    2. PH – your aha moment was that Trump wanted it on record that Comey told him he wasn’t a target of an investigation?

      Hillary Clinton paid a British spy to get false information from Russian spies in order to smear her political opponent just before the election. In addition, it has come out that, according to Steele himself, the dossier was an insurance policy to challenge the outcome of the election, should it not go her way.

      Hillary Clinton receive millions of dollars in speaking fees to Bill, and to her Foundation slush fund, in exchange for 1/5 of our Uranium assets.

      Donations to the Clinton Foundation, and speaking fee revenue for Bill have fallen off sharply after she lost the election. What did they think they were buying?

      There was indeed some coordination with the Russians in order to defraud voters. Although her plan didn’t work, and she lost the election, she and the Democratic Party have continued the fraud by using false opposition research as the basis of an FBI harassment campaign against not only Trump, but just about everyone connected with him. They have discovered process crimes, and some tax evasion, but nothing regarding working with Russia to steal the election. That was done by Hillary. She did it. She lied about it.

      As long as the Mueller investigation does not investigate Hillary Clinton, but rather her victim, then it has no merit.

      This obsession with Russia is becoming ludicrous. It was Hillary who did it. In the meantime, Democrats blamed Russia for #WalkAway rather than their own actions. Any critical story they blame on Russia. The DNC claimed their servers were hacked by Russia but refused to turn them over to the FBI for investigation.

      Comey abused his power and authority for political purposes. He also fabricated the definition of federal laws regarding classified information to get Hillary Clinton out of being prosecuted. The misuse of authority of the FBI and partisanship was astounding.

      The FBI should be investigated and the rot removed. This is a political hit job, a soft coup attempt, by people who cannot accept the outcome of a lawful election.

      1. Is not the uranium a Canadian company?

        But it hardly matters as the world has an excess of readily mineable uranium ore.

    3. “FBI SERIOUSLY WONDERED ABOUT TRUMP AND RUSSIA”

      Yes and those same people have been fired from the FBI and some might end up charged with illegal activities. Maybe the Mueller team will even find the texts that were lost by some of those agents that colluded with one another and NGO’s in what appears to be an attempt to undo a legal election of a President. One can label their actions as fascistic.

      Peter, you are a sore loser and one that seems to like the fascist approach for government.

  10. In politics today there is no right there is a center, a left, and a far left. all you have to do is listen to what Ocasio Cortez said about Joe Liberman. Common sense has gone down the drain

    1. Bruce, I’d hate to break it to you but common sense went out the window with Trump and his best people.

      1. The clear edge in common sense goes to Lieberman, not Hypen-Cortez.
        There will probably be 15-20 candidates coming out of the woodwork, competing for the 2020 Democratic nomination.
        Eventually, the winner will be of the Hyphen-Cortez/ Rapida Tlaib/ Keith Hakim variety…..the “new wave” of the Democratic Party….or someone like Lieberman, who has his head screw on tight.
        This competition for “the soul” and direction of the Democratic Party will be interesting.

        1. I visit my optometrist yearly. He keeps me in sharply focused reading spectacles. 🙂

          1. David, your optomotrist probably fits you with blinkers.

            Blinkers are also known as horse blinders and they have trapped you into looking in only one direction.

  11. Nancy Pelosi will be retrieving them any day to have two more voters for Dems to fight for those “Christian” values Peter Shill recently articulated 😜

    1. Those who bother to read TNYT will know that only one is an American.

      But then, what can we expect from the ignoranti?

      1. as if lack of Ameican citizenship, never mind being a legally registered voter in America, ever stopped Dems from counting “all votes”

        Whatever you did professionally in life Benson has been erased by your idiocy on these forums called out by many.

        PH is looking for his boy. Go to him

        Bob and Jim

        p.s. no self respecting person reads NYT

          1. David, Bob and Jim were being nicer to you then should be expected and yet you still insult them.

        1. Bob and Jim are Log Cabin Republicans? How is the party treating you? Do they seem inclusive enough?

          And tell us, prey tell, what is the favorite media source of Log Cabin Republicans? Do the Barbie Doll blonds on Fox News really connect with you?

          1. feel the luv in the Dims. They will be shredding each other in the next few weeks without any assistance from the GOP. Nancy Pelosi will have a stroke and no one will mourn her loss. Alexandra will probably piss on her while streaming it live on Twatter.

            The theater has just begun

            https://thehill.com/homenews/house/424879-ocasio-cortez-responds-to-joe-liebermans-criticisms-new-party-who-dis

            Ocasio-Cortez responds to Joe Lieberman’s criticisms: ‘New party, who dis?’

            Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Thursday fired back at former Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), who said he hopes she is not the future of the Democratic Party.

            Ocasio-Cortez fired back in a tweet asking, “New party, who dis?”

            1. SB, ‘who’ is Joe Lieberman to dictate the politics of Millennials? Does anyone under 35 really look to Lieberman for guidance? I would bet high ratios of Millennials barely know ‘who’ Lieberman was.

              Lieberman, it should be noted, was actually John McCain’s ‘first’ choice for Vice Presidential running mate in 2008. But GOP officials threw cold water on that idea. Lieberman, however, would have been infinitely wiser than Sarah Palin. McCain could barely stomach the latter!

              1. There is a difference between expressing an opinion about the political scene and a poltical party, and dictating “the politics of Millenials”.
                Most people understand that distinction.
                I don’t doubt that there are some millenials, as well as some in other age groups, who are too ignorant and self-absorbed to “barely know who Leiberman was”.

          2. Peter, you have a weird phobia against decent people and you seem to like making sexist remarks. You sound like a prejudiced AH.

      2. DBB:

        “Those who bother to read TNYT will know that only one is an American.

        But then, what can we expect from the ignoranti?”
        ****************************
        Those of us who bothered to read the NYT were told Manafort gave secret polling data to a Russian oligarch with ties to the Kremlin until we found out the next day that it never happened. And that’s only one instance among many of making stuff up that the millennials at the Times would have you believe.

        Uncritically believing the NYT is for the ignorant. How many times must you be fooled before you stop trusting?

        Here what usually happens: http://read.gov/aesop/043.html

        Note the culprit gets away scott free and the faithful get eaten.

        1. TNYT always files corrections, oh unobservant one.

          I follow the dictum “Don’t believe everything you read.” Have you learned that yet?

          1. I follow the dictum to never believe what I read from those without credibility.

            1. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/world/middleeast/teenager-isis-syria-trinidad.html
              Dr. Bobblehead rarely goes to the trouble of providing links, or specific citations.
              If anyone is interested, this link is from the New York Times article that the Pullman Pontificator was evidently mentioning.
              Neither of the two men who are the subject of this JT column, and numerous articles for several days, is a 16 year old teenager.
              Both have been described as American citizens in MSM articles.
              The New York Times is not the only major publication; even if it was, the story that Benson was apparently referring to was not about the 2 American adults captured.
              ( less is known about the background about the one named Zaid Whatever, who may be a naturalized American citizens).

      3. Benson– If you’re not going to provide a link to that “TNYT” article, or even the title or author of the article, your interest in the 7 deadly sins should lead you to learn about Sloth.

        1. But I want to encourage people to read the whole paper.

          I provide citations for articles difficult to locate.

          1. I’ll try opening up the entire article again; as a “rationed” non-subscriber who exceeded the 5 free articles, I was cut off after the 3rd paragraph.

          2. “I provide citations for articles difficult to locate.”

            David, you make things up.

    2. Estovir, for all we know you’re a Russian troll. Your posts rather suggest it; dull right wing tripe boring to even Republicans.

      That indicates you could be commenting from a troll farm in Saint Petersburg. And your name, ‘Estovir’, has an East European ring to it. I believe that’s a Russian term for ‘slacker’. Troll jobs appeal to slackers. You chain smoke cigarettes in your partial cubicle and look forward to getting drunk after work.

      1. I suppose Estovir “could be” this or that in the wild imagination of our man on the ground in Hollywood.
        On the other hand, there’s no “could be” speculation that our ace Tinseltown “reporter” is a two-bit hack spewing non-stop propaganda.

    3. Did you say Original Intent and Imperative Conditions to the Republic?
      _______________________________________________________

      United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,” March 26, 1790

      Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person,

      1. DBB’s programmer has got it right for once how do you extirpate and robo clone machine part from a list of made up names?

    1. Turns out one of them might be an phony immigrant? Who knows? does it matter. They are dead and American is an illegal as USA citizens are not allowed to turn mercenary or otherwise.

          1. ohhhh lawwddddd

            So Tabby was right. You are Peter’s bottom boy.

            Yuk

            Bob and Jim

            1. And to think that isn’t censored.

              Shakespeare quotations come to mind but those would be censored on this “free speech” blog.

              1. We tend more to latin. No problem machines don’t use either olde english or latin new or old. Nor American Standard English. Neither do their programmers.

            2. Bob & Jim, Benson doesn’t write in Tabby’s dismissive, snooty style. Not that we don’t ‘enjoy’ Tabby’s dismissive, snooty comments. But what kind of men aspire to dismissive snootiness? ..’Sportsmen’..? I don’t think so.

              In post-football round-ups you don’t hear coaches and quarterbacks describing their opponents in snooty, dismissive terms. You don’t hear tough cops describing criminals in snooty, dismissive terms. Generals aren’t describing enemies in snooty, dismissive terms.

              But certain ‘gentlemen’ aspire to become urbane bon vivants. They may, however, lack the funding to fully indulge their tastes. In that event they become smarmy observers; dismissing most everyone in snooty terms.

              1. Bob & Jim, Benson doesn’t write in Tabby’s dismissive, snooty style.

                LMAO. Benson’s signature is a supercilious drive-by. He simply does not argue at all.

                1. Absurd,…
                  Are you saying that you’re not impressed with the detailed😊, analytical😀 comments of DB Benson?

              2. PH:
                “In post-football round-ups you don’t hear coaches and quarterbacks describing their opponents in snooty, dismissive terms. You don’t hear tough cops describing criminals in snooty, dismissive terms. Generals aren’t describing enemies in snooty, dismissive terms. ”
                ****************

                You obviously haven’t been in a locker room, station house or command center. I’ve been in two and snooty doesn’t begin to describe it.

                  1. Give it a try, Karen S. If those quotes don’t clear the filter and are not published, cry “censorship!”😧at the top of your lungs.😉

        1. Ad hominem attacks are the only weapons and the weapons of last resort in the quivers of idiots.

          There is one thing Mespo cannot do and that is to say something, anything stupid.

          You, sir, should mute yourself and return to your station, that which you have never left but in your delirium.

          1. George, I agree. It’s sad that Mespo can’t even rise to the level of stupid.

            Most of us take stupid for granted. That is, we presume that even the most ignorant are capable of occasional stupid comments.

            There are individuals, however, who can only hope to ‘be’ stupid. And I fear Mespo embodies that struggle. If only he could write something ‘truly’ stupid.

            But Mespo lacks the imagination to succeed at even that. I was only being charitable in describing Mespo’s comments as stupid. But George felt compelled to call me out on that.

            1. PH:
              “But Mespo lacks the imagination to succeed at even that. I was only being charitable in describing Mespo’s comments as stupid.”
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              They are so obviously “stupid” or worse that you spend untold hours reading, critiquing, cutting/pasting and then only to crumble against them. What’s that Einsteinian definition of insanity again?

              Oh, and thanks.

            2. PH – your obsession with ad hominem attacks against Mespo is disturbing. It also displays an inability to discuss the merits of an argument. It’s the equivalent of “sit on an egg and rotate” in the middle of debate class.

              Agree with Mespo, or don’t, but don’t sink to the level of internet troll, or we’ll just scroll on by you. It would be frustrating if you were to insult people and your targets didn’t notice.

                1. DBB:

                  PH’s insults do rise to the ad hominem level when they suggest the object of his juvenile scorn is not to be believed because he is “stupid” or “ lacks the I magination” to be so. That attack on my assertions is clearly implied.

            3. He’s been making a living as a trial lawyer for 30-odd years and nearly all of his remarks in this forum are concise and carefully considered. That’s what you expect from a lawyer.

              There are, by the way, three other regulars here who have identified themselves as attorneys. Nothing to say about one of them. The other two produce ample material for anyone inclined to treat them derisively, but you make it a point to not notice the ‘kick me’ sign those two have pasted on their respective rear-ends.

              1. TIAx2:
                Hey and you forgot my “av” rating in Martindale, Top Ten Rating in Client Service in VA and the Million Dollar Advocacy Club membership but who’s counting! 😂Seriously, thanks for the support but PH and I are old adversaries and I take his insults like he takes mine — mere flesh wounds on a tough hide.

      1. It can’t. It’s just a name on a list and there is no sign of human presence involved. What some call a robo clone of The Collective. Furthermore one of the articles this morning wrongly used the word ‘reason’ as there is no reason etc. but failed to point reason requires thinking and the left doesn’t allow their collective to do any such thing. Thus the reason for social promotions for junior snow flakes from senior snowflakes who spend their time in the refridgerator avoiding the sunshine or those who being human think and reason independently.

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    1. Where did he say that? What he said was ‘ move 200,000 ground troops out. Didn’t say more than that. Didn’t say other types of units? Only the left tried to reframe and redefine and got their stupid parts caught in the wringer as usual.

  12. But they look just like Obama’s sons if he had sons, & they’re nicely tanned Texans & they were going to go to college to be doctors. (wink, wink)

    Yeah I know fair trial & all that…. on the Battle Field.

    1. Oky, they don’t look anything like Obama. Why would you even say that? Is this blog too much of a safe space for you?

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