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Detroit Festival Imposes Racist Entry Fee On Fans

250px-Flag_of_Detroit,_Michigan.svgWe have previously discussed concerns events were organizers have increased charges or even banned people due to the gender or race  Now a music and arts festival in Detroit is charging fans different prices depending on their skin color.  AfroFuture Fest, to be held on August 3-4 3-4, are charging lower rates for tickets bought by “people of color” than for “non-people of color”.  While one artist has stood against the racist policy and refused to appear, there is a notable muted response from many local politicians and the other musicians who are willing to appear at such an event.

Tiny Jag, a biracial rapper based in Detroit, has quit the event after the posting of the ticket prices below.

a screenshot of a cell phone: The pricing policy of the festival as seen on its website

The event is now ironically seeking to restore the racial limits on public accommodations and events that led to the famous Civil Rights protests.  The Civil Rights Act of 1964 Title II states: “All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.”  That includes “any motion picture house, theatre, concert hall, sports arena, stadium or other place of exhibition or entertainment”.

There is a growing trend of exceptionalism in the United States where people claim the ability to discriminate on the basis of speech or race or gender simply because they define themselves as victims or the cause as righteous.  It is in fact simply racism.

34 thoughts on “Detroit Festival Imposes Racist Entry Fee On Fans”

  1. All people are created equal. Only some people are more equal than others.

    1. Equal when created is not a life long term but one that has to be lived and supported each and every day.Obviously as time goes on from birth to death a great many become unequal although the best try to end up in the upper class. which is not the space occupied by the lack of leadership exhibited by the left. How do we know. Can’t lead when you are running the other way.

  3. SCOTUS opened this Pandora’s Box when it specifically approved affirmative action programs designed to “end past discrimination.” It resulted in groups designated as sacred cows. Can you blame others for championing the logical extensions? The solution is SCOTUS rescinding that patronizing ruling and letting merit rule the day. People do just fine when treated equally. We used to know that but our betters thought they had a better idea.

    1. IMO, Scotus rulings should in general be narrow, specific and demonstrate end points to avoid these problems.

    2. Everything the appellate courts and the public interest bar touch, they ruin.

      A proper legal regime

      1. Applies anti-discrimination law in the realm of commerce and non-commercial service provision to the public sector, natural monopolies, situational monopolies, and oligopolistic common carriers. Otherwise, it’s freedom of contract with all having a franchise to define their custom.

      2. Applies anti-discrimination law in the realm of labor relations to the public sector and only the public sector.

      3. Respects the division of labor between state and federal authorities.

      4. Does not engage in the lawyer’s equivalent of ‘creative accounting’ in defining discrimination.

      Some implications of this:

      1. Federal regulation of private service provision is limited to:

      a. Providers who employ people in multiple states.

      b. Providers engaged in cross-jurisdictional shipping and transportation.

      c. Stationary service providers with a presumptively out-of-state clientele. That would be providers of food and fuel located in transit stations, located on Interstate rest areas, located within 0.5 miles of a metropolitan exit on the Interstate, located within 3 miles of an exurban / rural / small-town Interstate exit, or located along a U.S. Route; and providers of lodgings in any venue.

      d. The rubrics of service promotion to out-of-state clientele. By way of example, a college recruiting out of state would have to respect certain disclosure requirements per federal law.

      2. Federal regulation of labor relations is limited to (a) the realm of pensions and miscellaneous retirement benefits, as company and beneficiary will commonly be domiciled in separate jurisdictions, (b) companies who employ people in multiple jurisdictions, or who receive a corporate charter in one jurisdiction but are operating in another and (c) rubrics of labor recruitment, unless the company makes a specific declaration to the local secretary of state that it does not hire across state lines (rendering it liable to fines if it does hire someone from out of state).

      3. Public sector recruitment and promotion is conducted through timely competitive examinations, military evaluation schemes; guild-pool hiring, wherein a supervisor may hire any member of a pool of people who have received a passing grade on an examination (examples would be lawyers, schoolteachers, and confidential secretaries); and patronage hiring, wherein the supervisor could hire any citizen or permanent resident who doesn’t fail a background check. Patronage hiring and the hiring of confidential employees would be purely discretionary. Patronage positions would as a matter of practice account for a low-single-digit share of the employees of just about any government which encompassed more than 30,000 people. Confidential employees would generally be limited to a secretary for a senior executive, a secretary and law clerks for a judge, and the top echelons in the clerks office of a court.

      4. State governments distribute unrestricted aid to local school districts according to formulae which take into account local per capita income and youth population, providing a riser for the most impecunious districts. They also incorporate co-operative and special service districts wherein low census and mandated services can be provided to clusters of local school districts, while regular school districts have a permissive remit regulated only by regents examinations which function as performance audits. Also, within districts, per pupil expenditure in general schools is roughly equal and school assignments are via open enrollment.

      5. Admission to public higher education is via a queuing system wherein aspirants are rank-ordered according to their composite scores on an series of examinations.

  4. Decent, forward thinking people eliminate discrimination root and branch. Unless it is the good kind.

  5. We see clothing designers who say they would love to dress Michelle Obama or Megan Markle or “so and so”….but design a dress for Melania Trump? Oh no, people, PUHLEEZE, because that’s not happening.

    But these same “designers” back activists who demand that Christian bakers will BAKE THE CAKE they want for their gay wedding?

    Please explain how these lefty designers, etc, who refuse to “dress” a politcal figure they do not like is any different?

    It’s not.

    What is Melania Trump demanded that a certain clothing designer make her a dress? Could they refuse? So why can’t a baker in Colorado refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding?

  6. As long as a party is not a natural or situational monopoly or part of a colluding oligopoly, or issued common property resources through means other than auction, why not repeal anti-discrimination law? Let them contract with who they care to at the price they care to?

    Their system is asinine, but in a free society, people are properly free to be asses under most circumstances.

    1. a legit idea in theory, but no legislator will advance such a notion

      it’s simpler for them that the government ignores section 1981 which applies to contract discrimination. i never heard of it until law school and havent heard of it since. supremely ignored law.

  7. Ever here of this punk rapper Bobby Shmurda?

    Here’s a Youtube video that has 560 million views & 227K comments

    Bobby says, I’m going to put a gun in your face & somebody is going to get their head blown off according to Bobby Shmurda.

    1. “If all earthly power were given me, I should not know what to do, as to the existing institution [of slavery]. My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia, to their own native land…he was asked whether freed blacks should be made ‘politically and socially our equals?’ My own feelings will not admit of this, and [even] if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not … We can not, then, make them equals.”

      – “Crazy Abe” Lincoln, In A Speech Delivered In Peoria, Illinois, On October 16, 1854

  8. I say let them do it. Do you really care and were you planning on going to a crappy music festival anyway? The only way I see any wrong doing is if there is public funding involved or a public facility is being used. Man is not truly free without the right to discriminate.

  9. This is part of the Google problem I talked about on the later posting. Google has its own PC ideas and it is excluding the ideas of those that do not align with theirs. Do we like the idea behind this festival’s fees. I don’t but despite my dislike of what the festival is doing (their idea of PC) I wouldn’t want Google to interfere one way or the other.

    Equality under the law should be part of the foundation of how we think.

    1. Google is a private company and should be able to run it how they wish.

      1. “Google is a private company and should be able to run it how they wish.”

        Jim22, yes, they are a private company but have been provided by Congress with special privileges. Those special priviledges should immediately be revoked or suspended until Google proves it is not abusing the reason they were granted. If they don’t wish to moderate their practices then other companies should be permitted to enter the field with those special priviledges as long as they do not abuse them in the fashion Google has done. That would provide a competitive source of competition.

        In the meantime Google may be compromising American security with their efforts to expand across the globe. Compromising American security is something that has to be carefully looked into. We forbid or restrict the sale of certain weapons, biologic agents etc. to certain nations for American security. I don’t see the difference when it comes to some of Google’s IP since we already restrict certain IP from being released.

        1. Allen, I agree. I forgot to put in special treatment, public funds or public facilities would void “privateness” if you will.

          1. they’re using public infrastructure by the gobs of teraflops to harvest their profits, is that enough to void privateness”? i think so but what do i know

            at least for purposes of editing private speech at their whim, they are a utility and need to butt out of it

      2. @Jim22 LOL, No, they are a public company, you can’t buy shares (be part owner), on the open market of a private company. Their shareholders can also dictate, or have input as to how the company operates. You can’t do that with a private company.

        It’s a “Private Company” is a Cop Out. Might be better if people would stop protecting evil.

  10. So Sen. Kamala Harris pays $10, Joe Biden pays $20 & doesn’t even get a senior citizens discount.

    Meanwhile:

    Kamala Harris Proposes $100 Billion Black Homeownership Plan

  11. This has to be a violation of the Civil Rights Act, only Caucasians are too afraid of being punished for brining suit. Until and unless these venues get sued, this will continue.

    It’s so sad to see the Democrats returning to segregation. What’s most shocking are the black only dorms and graduations currently en vogue in some universities.

    This is moving in the wrong direction. Can’t they see that?

  12. Rather than fume about this and try to get the organizers to back down on racist pricing, I would just let them go ahead, and then video the awkward, arbitrary, subjective decisions being made by the ticket sellers and takers at the event. Then, I would mock the hell out of them afterwards. My theory is that racial tribalism allowed to burrow into the economic system will fall flat on its face once the contradictions are exposed. So, let ‘s proceed having them exposed.

    2. pbinca said”

      “My theory is that racial tribalism allowed to burrow into the economic system will fall flat on its face once the contradictions are exposed”

      I have heard this before…. who said it? Ayn Rand? One of her clique or a liberterian?

      Sorry but there is no such contradiction. Markets emerged among tribes– groups of related people trading in local places– and they more often then not reinforce tribes.

      hiphop is itself a cunning market creation of smart people commercially exploiting racial tribalism. the funny thing is that a lot of those guys weren’t black. you can look it up. Start with Def Jam.

      you may be able to detect an ironic affiliation with ayn rand and her clique

      in fact some of the most cunning minds in economic history, both as entrepreneurs and as theoreticians, have been strong tribal members. and I say this with respect for them!

      think about this if you want to understand reality instead of pipe dreams

  13. THIS IS A CLEAR VIOLATION OF 18 USC SECTION 1981
    i CALL ON THE DOJ’S OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS ENFORCEMENT TO INVESTIGATE
    WHITE PEOPLE HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS UNDER FEDERAL LAW

    (a) Statement of equal rights
    All persons within the jurisdiction of the United States shall have the same right in every State and Territory to make and enforce contracts, to sue, be parties, give evidence, and to the full and equal benefit of all laws and proceedings for the security of persons and property as is enjoyed by white citizens, and shall be subject to like punishment, pains, penalties, taxes, licenses, and exactions of every kind, and to no other.

    (b) “Make and enforce contracts” defined
    For purposes of this section, the term “make and enforce contracts” includes the making, performance, modification, and termination of contracts, and the enjoyment of all benefits, privileges, terms, and conditions of the contractual relationship.

    (c) Protection against impairment
    The rights protected by this section are protected against impairment by nongovernmental discrimination and impairment under color of State law.

  15. How would the racial identity of an individual be established except by the use of some sort of government issued ID? Liberals/leftists/progressives are against ID for voters, yet agree in principle with such nonsense as this.

    1. Daniel points out the contradictions of left wing thinking. We are what we believe we are so if a blue eyed blond person whithout the slightest bit of tan walks up and asks for the reduced rate based on color do the leftists give the discount because he believes he is black or do they deny it because he doesn’t look black to them.

      This is a good question for Enigma.

      1. one drop rule. ever see the broadway show, “Showboat?”

        old man river!

        sign me up, i have a tan, and the anthropologists say we all come from africa in some generation

  16. Ask dem/com Presidential candidates to raise their hands if they support such pricing.

    2. Could we be so lucky?

      Perhaps. After all, they all excitedly have gone all in on open borders, and reparations are popular among them. They seem frantic to outdo each other in ways to destroy the prosperity and fairness of our country.

    3. any form of racism, sexism,or bigotry must be shunned no matter if they are pro, or reverse or whatever they certainly not Consitutionalists and Centrists nor anywhere near it. Nice they are a minority, the real minority

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