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Bolton Out: National Security Adviser Suggests Trump Is Lying About His Firing

President Donald Trump has tweeted that he has fired National Security Adviser John Bolton. Bolton however pointedly contradicted Trump and said that he resigned. What is clear is that another high-ranking Trump official is out — an astonishing turnover of such officials in a single Administration. However, few are likely to object on this one given the unpopularity of Bolton in Washington, which viewed him as someone who has long advocated the use of military interventions and wars. Update: President Trump responded by saying that Bolton was indeed fired and he did not resign as he has stated.

 Donald Trump said on Twitter that “I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House.” He added I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore … I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.”

However, Bolton fired back by saying on Twitter that he resigned and that Trump had not made up his mind last night.

John Bolton✔@AmbJohnBolton

I offered to resign last night and President Trump said, “Let’s talk about it tomorrow.”6,80412:10 PM – Sep 10, 2019Twitter Ads info and privacy8,451 people are talking about this

Fox News host Brian Kilmeade also received a text contradicting Trump:

Oliver Darcy✔@oliverdarcy

“John Bolton just texted me,” @kilmeade says live on Fox News, where Bolton was a former contributor. “He said, ‘Let’s be clear, I resigned.'”17312:17 PM – Sep 10, 2019Twitter Ads info and privacy144 people are talking about this

Trump was warned by many that Bolton was a poor choice for national security adviser given his past controversies and his hawkish views. He was also opposed based on what many said was a volcanic temper and poor interpersonal skills. The short-lived appointment again raises questions about Trump’s judgment in such selections and ongoing unprecedented turnover rate.

Despite opposition from some leading Republicans, Bolton was reportedly appointed at the urging of major financial back Sheldon Adelson.

162 thoughts on “Bolton Out: National Security Adviser Suggests Trump Is Lying About His Firing”

  4. Regarding the headline: Trump cannot tell a lie. For to lie means that one knowingly utters a falsehood. But that implies the ability to distinguish truth from falsity. The Donald is unable to do so.

  5. Arguebly one of the two most dangerous people in the world just lost their job. Can we make this a national holiday? This is by far the best news to come out since bolton was first hired to work in the trump administration.

  6. OMG! Some people here are sooo stupid. Hasn’t anybody ever seen Rising Sun with Sean Connery??? Sometimes you need a crazy person in your stable of employees, particularly when dealing with foreign cultures. Having that gives Trump options. He knows he can always fire a Bolton if he needs to. Remember this from the movie:

    ” Web Smith: Isn’t it bad form to lose your temper?
    John Connor: It is. But I had to, to assist Ishihara.
    Web Smith: Assist Ishihara? Now why would you wanna do that?
    John Connor: He wasn’t the most important man in the room.
    Web Smith: Oh, he wasn’t?
    John Connor: No. It was the older man. His juyaku, his superior. But I wanted to get the investigation going so I played the out-of-control gaijin. So Ishihara wouldn’t lose face. So now, Ishihara owes me a favour. ”

    Sheeeeesh, the appalling lack of strategic thinking here is simply staggering! How in the world did you guys here get along without me???

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

      1. Actually, TIA is pretty smart if you can keep him away from over-reliance on statistics. His educational ideas would work better than our current system which, outside of certain hard curriculums, are designed mostly to transfer money to white liberal professors and university admins from future generations. IMHO, education on all levels needs to be rethought. For example, why try to teach algebra to the monkeys in these inner city schools??? It isn’t that they can’t learn it, but they do not have a home life which makes learning schoolwork much of an option.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

    2. We are completely lost without you. However, if you consider that Bolton is not in play and has been a thorn in negotiations then it is best he goes.

          1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me twenty-five citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after forty-three weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – Squeeky has all her synapses firing. You might have one or two firing, one or two misfiring, and the rest dead.

              1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me twenty-five citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after forty-three weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – there is nothing uncivil about requiring your to pony up your lacking citations.

          1. She makes up for it in ignorance. As for Mensa-boy, if you converse with an idiot expect idiocy.

            1. TONY – Oddly enough, you fail to converse with anyone. All you spout are ad hominems. I enjoy discussions. If an actual thought crosses your mind that is worth discussing, post it and we can discuss it. However, it is just ad hominem city from your end.

              1. Loser, you don’t discuss anything. You just spew inanities and revel in your friend’s racism.

            2. Tony – you do not understand how intelligence works, do you? An idiot is a person of low intelligence. A Mensa person is a person is a person of high intelligence.

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  8. Old Snuffy Smith was dead-man-walking when he first got there. His hawkish views were never going to mesh with Trump’s and most of the world knew it. Who fired who is about as relevant as who dumped who. Lovers spats are the most vicious kind and hence the most irrelevant to the rest of us. Que Sera Sera.

    :Que será, será
    Whatever will be, will be
    The future’s not ours to see
    Que será, será
    What will be, will be
    Que será, será”

    Maybe the whole picture not but the outlines are there. Take it away Doris:

    1. Lovers spats are the most vicious kind and hence the most irrelevant to the rest of us

      See Terry Melcher v. Jacqueline Carlin.

      For some bizarre reason, Doris Day, then 82, allowed a set of dubious characters control not only of her philanthropic foundation but of her person. She didn’t have many proximate relatives: a grandson, her brother’s widow, and a scatter of 1st cousins. The grandson was debarred from seeing her from 2004 until her death and it’s a reasonable wager the cousins hadn’t seen her in decades. People who’ve been in her circle of friends or on her domestic staff in past years have made their disquiet public and her grandson finally offered a precis of how his stepmother debarred him from his father’s house and then his grandmother’s handlers debarred him from hers.

        1. mespo – Don’t forget that if Melcher had given Manson a record contract, Helter Skelter never would have happened.

              1. Cindy Bragg – Manson knew that they had moved out of the house. He told Tex Watson to kill everyone in the house I make a big mess of it. He really didn’t care who is living there then. He didn’t get his hands dirty on that one, he did on the next one. He tied up the couple. And then they had killed somebody else a week previously. Season Two of Mindhunter interviews Manson and Watson, their stories are very different. There is no way you would want Manson on the street again.

                  1. Cindy Bragg – 1969. See Tarentino’s film Once Upon A Time in Hollywood. Excellent. Great performances. Manson girls are creepy as hell. Pretty violent, but it is a Tarentino film. 😉

      2. When I grow old like TIA I hope I never find myself posting ad nauseam ad infinitum such pitiful meaningless trivia to keep hope alive of making it to another day

        Thanks for showing us what a meaningless existence looks like

        1. yeah well what absurd said was covered on NPR too so apparently a lot of you goofs found it innerestin too

      3. TIA XXIII…….Far be it from me to challenge our own Perle Mesta of society gossip, yea the “doyen of dirt” on the Turley blog, but I believe Ryan Melcher, Doe Day’s grandson, got along fine with his grandmother. She lived a fairly happy life in her last years.

        1. Negative. There’s a good recent video since Doris passed on. The video is of someone who knew Doris well, an employee, and he tells the story of her grandson.

          Doris hated gossip and seeing her name trashed in public. Since the divorce, Doris’ ex-daughter in law published a lot of lies and bad news about Doris, so Doris just did her normal thing, she withdrew from the spotlight, and did not fight back in public. She wanted privacy. So she withdrew from seeing her grandson.

          Years later, the grandson called Doris’ home, and spoke with Doris’ representative. The rep and grand son met, and the representative reported to Doris the conversation went well, and Doris planned to have the grand son over. Then Doris read more gossip by the grandson’s mother. Obviously he had spoken to his mother.

          That was it. It was over permanently and she never reconciled with him. The boy’s mother obviously hated the idea of her son having a relationship with Doris, someone with infinitely greater stature than herself.

    2. Don’t politics make strange bedfellows? It may have been worth a shot. You try the Calamari; you spit it out.

    3. You say Bolton’s “hawkish views were never going to mesh with Trump’s”. Problem is, Trump has no views, except that anything that gets him attention, praise, adulation and diversion of taxpayer money to shore up his failing empire, are good. That’s why military refueling routes to the Middle East were diverted to Scotland–to help the local airport near one of his resorts, with refueling costing much more than refueling at Ramstein Air Base in Germany that was used until Trump came along. However, refueling in Scotland also required, of course, overnight stays at his resort at taxpayer expense, of course. Then, there’s Mikey Pence and his entourage commuting 180 miles per day so they could stay at Doonbeg, an Irish resort of Trump’s. On your and my tab, of course. Both of these resorts have been losing millions every year.

      Trump knows little to nothing about world affairs. That wouldn’t be fatal or possibly not even very important if he were willing to listen to people who do know about these things, and if altruism and patriotism motivated him. There are plenty of such people around from both Republican and Democratic administrations, who are altruistic patriots and they would help. They have decades of combined experience and institutional knowledge. But, being willing to listen requires an acknowledgement that someone knows more than you do. Trump’s ego would never allow this, so he shoots from the hip. He cannot handle being criticized, as the NOAA scandal proves. Bolton probably pointed out something Trump didn’t know, and it pissed him off. What a way to run a railroad!

      1. This is precisely why the American Founders established a restricted-vote republic, distinctly not a one man, one vote democrazy. In 1789, the Founders and leaders generally required voters to be Male, European, 21 with 50 lbs. Sterling or 50 acres.

        Smart men. Very smart men.

        The vote under democracy has been logically and justifiably restricted since inception in Greece and Rome.

        1. I’ve heard of a lot of different republics, but I’ve never heard of a restricted-vote Republic, because there is no such thing! In fact what you are describing, a Federal qualified electorate of white men over 21 of wealth, was part of the 14th Amendment, which is unconstitutional on its face, because of Article 1 Section 2 Clause 1; “the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.”, this clause prohibits the establishment of a federal qualified electorate, and the drawing of federal districts, because the process for assembling each State’s own Most Numerous Legislative Branch is established in each State’s own Constitution!

          And just to let you know our Country was established as a Confederated Republic, Based Upon Equal per capita Representation, and Equal per capita Suffrage to reach Majority Consensus in the House, which is proportional for each State based upon the number of inhabitants.

          You are good for comic relief, but I would suggest that you actually learn what you are spouting!

      2. Again this annoying person claims she knows the interior of Donald’s mind, his life experiences, mental content, beliefs, etc. WOW you must have the mind of God Himself “Natch”

        and yet you call him narcissistic!

    4. mespo……..oh thank you for posting! Made my day.! A day without Doris is like….well, not good..
      Pillow Talk was required viewing in the Bragg household. TCM had a Doris film marathon in June. I hardly left my barcalounger.

        1. mespo – the best quote I heard about Doris Day was “I knew Doris before she was a virgin.”

          2. Paul C……….that’s a scream…..and you know the person who would laugh the loudest at that would be Doris, based on everything I’ve read about her great sense of humor, and ability to laugh at herself.
            “The Thrill of it All” with James Garner was such a classic comedy….Very clever script, great storyline, incredible cast, wonderful direction. And the chemistry between Doe and Garner was believable. IMO, a perfect movie in that genre.

            1. Cindy Bragg – Doris Day seems to have been a lovely person who had very poor taste in husbands.

              1. Paul C……that’s exactly right. She had that Midwestern genuine naivete and trusted everybody, …..and that innocence is what endeared her to her audiences. She apparently was the same onscreen and off, and her co-stars always fell in love with her.

              2. Yeah, I know the feeling of what I am deeming to be “Doris Day Syndrome,” except I never married any of them.

                I knew better that that…

                Poor Doris, manipulated by her love interest…smh.

                What’s that saying, “Love is blind…and they rob you blind.”

                This could apply to some men out there too.

                1. Anonymous – True, true. I have been through my share of affairs that didn’t end in my favor. 😉 However, looking back, I think the women were just a lot smarter than me. 🙂

  9. If person A asks person B for a resignation and Person B complies, person A can say person B was fired and person B can say it was a resignation and they would both be right. What will be interesting to see is how the MSM that HATED Bolton will treat him now.

  10. I don’t care why or how. Bolton was a warmonger, and I’m glad he’s out.

    3. Yeah, Bolton wasn’t loved, but who knows what will replace him? Someone who will step and fetch for Trump, no doubt, and that’s bad.

  11. The United States persist under the dominion of the Constitution, Bill of Rights and legitimate and properly ratified Amendments (no amendment may be considered legitimate or proper having been accomplished at the “point of a gun” under the duress of brutal post-war military occupation).

    No other dictates or documents hold dominion in the United States.

    The Constitution omits and, thereby, excludes any direction regarding the discharge of appointees leaving the discharge of appointed officers as the domain of the President and Commander-in-Chief.

    The President has the power to summarily discharge appointed officials of the executive branch.
    _________________________________________________________

    U.S. Constitution
    Article 2, Section 2

    The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

    He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.

    The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session.

  13. There will be a full moon this Friday the 13th. Something big is going to happen. I think it will occur when the moon comes up at night. Possibly a Friday night massacre. Stay home and if you go out then carry your weapon and contact your well regulated militia and be ready to join in.

  14. The Federalist 77

    Hamilton From the New York Packet. Friday, April 4, 1788.
    To the People of the State of New York:
    IT HAS been mentioned as one of the advantages to be expected from the co-operation of the Senate, in the business of appointments, that it would contribute to the stability of the administration. The consent of that body would be necessary to displace as well as to appoint. A change of the Chief Magistrate, therefore, would not occasion so violent or so general a revolution in the officers of the government as might be expected, if he were the sole disposer of offices. Where a man in any station had given satisfactory evidence of his fitness for it, a new President would be restrained from attempting a change in favor of a person more agreeable to him, by the apprehension that a discountenance of the Senate might frustrate the attempt, and bring some degree of discredit upon himself. Those who can best estimate the value of a steady administration, will be most disposed to prize a provision which connects the official existence of public men with the approbation or disapprobation of that body which, from the greater permanency of its own composition, will in all probability be less subject to inconstancy than any other member of the government.

    I know none of you actually read, especially Hamilton who covered the Executive functions of our Government in the Federalist Papers, but I think it’s clear from the above excerpt that the President can’t fire or appoint anyone in the Executive Branch without the advice and consent of the Senate. In fact every new President inherits the Executive Department Heads that were in place from the previous President. Now I know some of you Party sycophants believe that the President has ultimate power and authority to rule in our Government, but the Union is the Supreme Legislative and Governing Authority in our Government, and everyone works, and is subservient to, the Union.

    I also know that no one admits to knowing what the Union is! Let me help you! The United States, in Congress Assembled, The Union that makes our Country the United States of America.

    Maybe we should try to follow the Constitution, instead of making up our own Political Monopoly House Rules Version of The Constitution!

  15. You’re fussing over another pseudo-controversy.

    Given what’s known of Bolton’s general disposition, his presence was an anomaly. Not surprising he’s leaving.

    2. no great loss
      no great controversy, people often get fired and resign in the same sitting,
      in whatever order. lol

  17. Trump did not fire Bolton, trump does not have the guts to fire anyone, even his “You’re Fired’ was fake and read off a small teleprompter on his desk and even at that he flubbed the lines many times and “fired” the wrong person and the show had to be rewritten to coverup the flub. Trump has no ability to select good people, the Bolton appointment was just another in a long line of losers and bad choices.

    1. Trump did not fire Bolton, trump does not have the guts to fire anyone,

      Thanks for the issue of your imagination. Been an education.

      1. you tell us you’re a Trad Katholic but Jesus would deny ever knowing you

        Dominus Vomitbisvum

          1. Seems you are butt hurt that someone sheds light on the obviously hypocritical pontificating moral superiority you proclaim. at least we atheists are honest unlike you

    2. Captnmike’s cup of facts and evidence runneth over.

      Captmike is perfect and has never made an error (Obongo visited “57 states” with a “corpse man”).

      I like captnmike.

  19. What is the big deal?

    Bolton is a smart man who provided valuable insights and was a tool to balance soft positions in negotiations.

    His contributions stopped being useful and he exited.

    Now the media and anti-Trumpers are wringing their hands and whining.

    Look at the good and quit being so negative.

    1. So you’re saying that net overall, it’s better than we fought wars in Iraq and Afghanistan than if we did not fight those wars? Really? Please give a detailed account of your point of view.

      I suppose it’s news to you that Saddam was a Sunni, and his arch enemy was Shia Iran (they fought a war against each other), and that the US beheading Saddam infinitely enriched Iran, which Iran is largely responsible for Iraq’s current state of extreme instability, and that Saddam-run Iraq was infinitely more stable than it shall likely be in anyone’s lifetime reading this, that ISIS flourished in Iraq directly because we beheaded Saddam, that every military leader worth his salt has sworn “A MILITARY WIN IS IMPOSSIBLE IN THE M.E.,” and that every single US led M.E. regime change has failed, starting with every single one of them from infinity to beyond?

      And please tell America exactly what good resulted for Americans from the 4 recent US military members who died in Iraq?

      Let readers guess. You’re one or more of the following:

      A so-called “Christian evangelical,” i.e. Zionist faux-Christian
      A Zionist
      A person who personally and/or financially benefits from war
      A war monger

      1. IOW, Bolton doesn’t wish the Jews dead, ergo bad. Always appreciate your input.

  20. “…was a volcanic temper and poor interpersonal skills.”

    He would fit right in with most Americans who are bereft of the most basic interpersonal skills.

    As for volcanic tempers, the same was said by Secret Service Members of HRM Hillary “what difference does it make” Clintorus

    It didnt stop her adoring mongrels from throwing themselves off of cliffs for Heil Hitlary

    1. He would fit right in with most Americans who are bereft of the most basic interpersonal skills.

      You could always self-deport. The French have exceptional manners, or so I’m told How ’bout China?:

      1. Thus confirming the comment by Jes. Since you troll FB and the internet blogs 24/7, lets assume its been a while since you got laid

        Pro tip: Reddit might help you but you must be able to get it up

        lol

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