We recently discussed how figures like New York Times columnist Tom Friedman calling on people to move to Georgia to rig the vote in favor of a Democratic takeover of the Senate. It did not seem to matter to either the newspaper or Friedman that he was encouraging the commission of a felony. Yet, Friedman is not a lawyer. What is more disconcerting is that lawyers are alleged to be involved in such efforts. Recently, Georgia officials confirmed that they are investigating The New Georgia Project — a group founded by lawyer Stacey Abrams — for allegedly seeking to register out of state voters and deceased individuals. On the Republican side, Florida attorney Bill Price is facing a more direct and serious investigation than Abrams (who has not been personally implicated in such actions). Price is shown in a video boasting of his own registration in Georgia at the home of his brother and encouraging others to do the same.
These groups often have ample legal advisers who are aware of the calls for fraudulent registrations. The commission of such crimes would occur despite express warnings from state officials and raise question of willful blindness on the part of counsel.
Now we have a video of Price speaking to Bay County GOP members in Florida calling for registrations using false addresses. The date is notable. It was Nov. 7th, just after the election was called for Joe Biden. Price explains that it is unlikely to overturn the results of the presidential election in court and then states:
“We absolutely have to hold the Senate and we have to start fighting back, and we have to do whatever it takes. And if that means changing your address for the next two months, so be it. I’m doing that. I’m moving to Georgia and I’m gonna fight and I want you all to fight with me.”
He is referring to his brother Hiram and spells out his name and address for those in the room to write down. One women is heard asking “We can truly register at that address?”
Price responds “sure” and notes that they can register anywhere in the state to vote in the runoff. He goes into details like having mail sent to the address to satisfy state rules. While his brother has claimed that the remarks were “tongue and cheek,” the statements would seem to belie that defense.
Deidre Holden, Paulding County’s election supervisor, confirmed that they have a voter registration pending for Price. What is more interesting is that the office is going to ask him to bring in his driver’s license to “cure” and complete the registration. That could be raised as a defense that Price never actually registered.
It would still arguably constitute solicitation and conspiracy. Here is the provisions under Georgia law:
(a) (1) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct.
(2) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the second degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a misdemeanor under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct.
(b) (1) A person convicted of the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than three years.
(2) A person convicted of the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the second degree shall be punished as for a misdemeanor.
(c) It is no defense to a prosecution for criminal solicitation to commit election fraud that the person solicited could not be guilty of the crime solicited.
(d) The provisions of subsections (a) through (c) of this Code section are cumulative and shall not supersede any other penal law of this state.
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21-2-603. Conspiracy to commit election fraud
A person commits the offense of conspiracy to commit election fraud when he or she conspires or agrees with another to commit a violation of this chapter. The crime shall be complete when the conspiracy or agreement is effected and an overt act in furtherance thereof has been committed, regardless of whether the violation of this chapter is consummated. A person convicted of the offense of conspiracy to commit election fraud involving a violation of this chapter which is a felony shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one year nor more than one-half the maximum period of time for which he or she could have been sentenced if he or she had been convicted of the crime conspired to have been committed, by one-half the maximum fine to which he or she could have been subjected if he or she had been convicted of such crime, or both. A person convicted of the offense of conspiracy to commit election fraud involving a violation of this chapter which is a misdemeanor shall be punished as for a misdemeanor.
The facilitation or encouragement of fraudulent voting could obviously expose Price to bar actions, if proven.
There are reportedly over 250 such cases under investigation in Georgia concerning registration for the runoff election, which is not surprising given the irresponsible calls from figures like Friedman and Price. However, the involvement of attorneys in such efforts is particularly alarming.
I have been highly critical of the role of lawyers in some of the worst aspects of the post-election rage. Thousands of lawyers have supported the Lincoln Project in its campaign of abuse and harassment of other lawyers representing the Republican Party or the President. The silence from lawyers in failing to condemn this improper campaign is deafening.
It is an example of how rage has overcome reason in our politics, including the role of lawyers committing even violent acts as forms of protest.
Prof. J.T.,
How ’bout the news that 1500 lawyers want bar associations to investigate Trump lawyers?
https://lawyersdefendingdemocracy.org/call-for-bar-condemnation-and-investigation-of-president-trumps-campaign-lawyers-for-subverting-american-democracy/
These Praetorian Guards were AWOL during the Russian interference hoax. I do not see them arguing for Comey’s disbarment. And a wholesale fraud on the economy in 2008. And I am pretty sure that if we go through the list each of these has done a number of things in his/her pretentious professional lives.
investigate our judges. they are the most corrupt, untouchable, threat to our democracy.
Yes. They are this stupid. CCTV much?
“This Needs Answers”: CCTV Video Of Georgia Poll Workers Sparks Election Fraud Outrage”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cctv-video-georgia-poll-workers-sparks-election-fraud-outrage
“Disturbing election night footage has emerged showing Georgia poll workers waiting for observers and news outlets to leave State Farm Arena in Atlanta after calling an end to counting for the night, before pulling out several large suitcases containing ballots from under a table.
The footage, presented by an attorney working with Republicans during a Thursday state Senate hearing, is perhaps the strongest direct evidence of potential fraud, and demands serious inquiry. In it, a handful of poll workers can clearly be seen staying behind after GOP observers say they were told to clear out. After the media packs up their belongings, the workers can be seen pulling out the suitcases and opening them at approximately 11 p.m.”
Keisha Bottoms is as dumb as a post. So I have no idea why the DNC thought she could pull this off without screwing the pooch. Other than they’re not the sharpest tools in the shed, either.
Rhodes: “Disturbing election night footage . . .
Here is that security tape footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c3-QiNLI7M
Watch the segment in the upper right-hand corner. The narrator is attorney Jacki Pick. The December 3 presentation is being made to Georgia legislators.
The illegal ballot counting starts at about 2:00 on the tape,*after* the election officials kicked out the ballot-counting observers and media. The officials continued counting ballots — in violation of Georgia election laws — for about 2 hours (from 11 p.m. to 1 a.m.).
The ballot stuffing starts at about 6:00 on the tape (about 11 p.m.). Earlier that morning, an election official (caught on tape) had hidden 4 boxes and suitcases of ballots under a table draped in black cloth. As you can see on the surveillance tape (6:00), at about 11 p.m. — after the observers and media had been kicked out — those boxes and suitcases full of ballots were removed from under the table. Those illegal/fraudulent ballots were counted over the next two hours.
Here is a brief article about that illegal ballot counting and potential fraud:
“[T]he evidence shown in the video contains more than enough votes being counted without a monitor to surpass the margin of victory for Biden.”
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/georgia-poll-watchers-jacki-pick/2020/12/03/id/999979/
Incidentally, if the ballots in those hidden boxes and suitcases were legitimate, why weren’t they removed from underneath the table when the observers and media were present?
I remain perplexed by this whole discussion. The Georgia run-off statute (Georgia Code Title 21. Elections § 21-2-501) seems absolutely clear that you can’t vote in the run-off election unless you were eligible to vote in the original election, i.e., you can’t register now (whether legitimately or not) if you weren’t registered before and then vote in the run-off:
(10) The run-off primary, special primary runoff, run-off election, or special election runoff shall be a continuation of the primary, special primary, election, or special election for the particular office concerned. **Only the electors who were duly registered to vote and not subsequently deemed disqualified to vote in the primary, special primary, election, or special election for candidates for that particular office shall be entitled to vote therein,**
I have seen that point discussed in a few recent on-line educational materials for Georgia election officials. But it’s rarely been mentioned in any discussions of this run-off election. Admittedly, I am not a Georgia lawyer, maybe I’m missing something, but is the Georgia Secretary of State unaware of what the Georgia statutes actually say? Is the statute going to be enforced?
–gpm
That’s not what Georgia’s website says –
https://georgia.gov/vote-2020-runoff-elections
The problem in Georgia is it is simple about giving dl. My neighbor was in the state pen next door 2 years….couldnt work because no dl….couldnt get a al dl bc he owed on warrants. Set up a bogus address in GA…at address mill to get ga dl so he could work. No doubt those “mills” submit tons of votes in GA by out of state felons….with fraud dl……
“Subsequently” is what could be being found for…but if no one will compare the rolls… Or signatures ….”subsequently” is surplurflous.
How can Trump and his wife vote from a golf course that has no residence in Florida?
Same way the former governors of Maine and Arkansas do….spend less than 180 days in your old state…and places…spend your time in florida…or at least “intend” to do be a Floridian…its like being a he or she or any pronoun…you want to be. Everyone wants to be ‘florida man’…and today all you need to do is have some nexus to declare yourself ‘florida man’. We can’t look at biological or any other facts….anyone can be ‘florida man’.
He has a residence in Florida. Ever hear of Mar a Lago?
“What surfaced during hearings in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, on November 25, 2020, may set the standard for electoral outrageousness. An expert testifying to the Pennsylvania Senate flagged a batch of ballots that recorded some 570,000 votes for Joe Biden and only 3,200 for Donald Trump.
Yes, you read that correctly. That would equate to Joe Biden bagging 99.4 percent of that enormous chunk of votes“
After reading this passage, martial law has a certain appeal as natural justice on display.
No one who testified at that “hearing” was under oath.
Aninny:
And Zola wasn’t “under oath” when he accused President Felix Faure either. Zola lost too, right?
mespo: “And Zola wasn’t ‘under oath’ . . .”
Good one.
Neither were Woodward and Bernstein, during the Watergate investigations.
Their swore to the accuracy of their affidavits under penalty of perjury.
Did the person who testified he flagged ballots that recorded some 570,000 votes for Joe Biden and only 3,200 for Donald Trump submit an affidavit?
We dont need Marshall law….we just need rule of law….the doj needs to prosecute whether or not it ‘turnrd’ n election. And appearantly we’ll never get to know that. The only reason for. Marshall law is because ppl resort to self help. The very reason we have courts….so the courts sending out cases for anything but the crux aren’t really wins….so they win on “standing”…..that isn’t the merits…and presupposes that there is another mechanism. There isn’t..so in the end the ask is 74 million people . Dred scott! No one but the man. Msn watched by only 2 million…are going to believe it. …
You got the rest of us to deal with…..you need Marshall law for that? And who do you think imposes Marshall law?….one half and more of the troops all from fly over nonellites….we walk…..who is your Marshall law?
Are you drunk?