It appears that some media have a new narrative after admitting that the Hunter Biden laptop is legitimate after all. According to Atlantic Magazine writer and Pulitzer Prize winner Anne Applebaum, the story never did matter because it was just not interesting and “totally irrelevant” to her. Strangely, however, it once did. Applebaum pushed the false narrative as she was slamming others for publishing “Russian disinformation” and using the Hunter Biden story as an example. It only became uninteresting when it turned out to be true. The one convincing assertion, however, is that it was simply not viewed as “relevant.” What was clearly relevant for Twitter and most media outlets was the election of Joe Biden. Otherwise, as captured by Gaston de La Touche, it is a matter of sheer boredom.
Applebaum was at my alma mater, The University of Chicago, for the Disinformation and the Erosion of Democracy conference on Wednesday. The conference appeared largely an echo-chamber, a disappointing lineup for UChicago which is known to value a diversity of opinion. Applebaum slammed Fox and its viewers: “Those who live outside the Fox News bubble and intend to remain there do not, of course, need to learn any of this stuff.” (For the record, I work as a legal analyst at Fox).
That is when University of Chicago Student Daniel Schmidt delivered a haymaker after citing her dig:
“A poll, later after that, found that if voters knew about the content of the laptop, 16% of Joe Biden voters would have acted differently. ‘Do you think the media acted inappropriately when they instantly dismissed Hunter Biden’s laptop as Russian disinformation, and what can we learn from that in ensuring that what we label as disinformation is truly disinformation, and not reality?”
Applebaum responded by saying that she really did not care if the laptop was legitimate because she did not find it interesting.
“My problem with Hunter Biden’s laptop is I think it’s totally irrelevant,” she said. “I mean, it’s not whether it’s disinformation… I didn’t think Hunter Biden’s business relationships have anything to do with who should be President of the United States.”
So, if the Biden family was engaged in selling access to foreign interests, it really has nothing to do with the President of the United States. It is not interesting that there are references to Joe Biden’s knowledge or involvement and possible benefitting from the millions passing through his son. It does not matter that Hunter is shown telling his daughter Naomi: “I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years. It’s really hard. But don’t worry, unlike Pop [Joe], I won’t make you give me half your salary.”
It is all just so uninteresting.
Nevertheless, Applebaum did find it interesting that others are pushing “disinformation.” Russian disinformation has been a focus of her work and she has called for Facebook to stop those who “spread lies” and work to “undo the terrible damage done by Facebook and other forms of social media” by allowing people to speak freely on their sites. Applebaum repeatedly objected to how “extreme-right television channels, then repeated and amplified in cyberspace, creating an alternative reality.” However, when the left killed a legitimate story before an election, that alternative reality is just not interesting.
It turns out, however, that there was relevance to the Hunter Biden scandal when the media was dismissing it as Russian disinformation. For example, in a column titled “The Science of Making Americans Hurt Their Own Country,” Applebaum was fixated on how everyone had to work to kill such stories like the Hunter Biden “saga.” Indeed, Applebaum chastised Americans for not being interested enough:
“Russian disinformation works because Americans allow it to work-and because those same Americans don’t care anymore about the harm they do to their country.
You can argue, of course, that these 2020 efforts don’t need to be taken so seriously, because they failed. Biden won. At least half the population did not believe the false accusations, or weren’t swayed by them. The Hunter Biden saga faded. But that misses the more insidious, longer-term effect of these kinds of games-or rather, the insidious, long-term effect of the behavior of the Americans who play them.”
Applebaum now insists that she never really “cared” about the story or whether a true story was suppressed by the media before the election. It seems that that is not disinformation. It is just uninteresting information.
I previously wrote a column on the one year anniversary of the Hunter Biden laptop story that marveled at the success of the Biden family in making the scandal vanish before that 2020 election. It was analogized to Houdini making his 10,000-pound elephant Jennie disappear in his act. The Biden trick, however, occurred live before an audience of millions.
The elephant was not hard to see. The trick worked because he knew people did not want to see it.
The key to the trick was involving the media in the original act so that reporters became invested in the illusion. It is like calling audience members to the stage to assist in the performance. Reporters have to insist that there was nothing to see or they have to admit to being part of the original deception. Indeed, previously writers like Applebaum accused those who saw an elephant of being dupes and liars.
Well now the elephant is back, Applebaum wants everyone to know that she was never really interested in elephants in the first place.
Applebaum has become totally irrelevant.
Like, totally.
I challenge everyone to watch Biden at the WH with Obama as he walked around aimlessly, looking like a pair of brown shoes at a tuxedo convention.
Hey Jeff, Anonymous, Natacha et al, do you think Biden has lost it or do you think he is fine? The only shocking thing about the video is that Jill Biden let her husk of a husband be alone at the party without having a hand holder to walk him around.
Of course, O’bama the narcissist couldn’t have cared less about how is “pal” Biden was looking as he ignored the old guy, played the belle of the ball and did his me, me me thing. “Dr” Jill must have been so pissed.
President Biden was upstaged and rendered irrelevant.
Obama snubbed him. Jill abandoned him for the day. Kamala can’t stand him.
Who is running the country into the ground?
I’ve never felt so unsafe to be an American.
HullBobby,
I watched the video.
It was sad.
And it is not just those at the WH, but on the world stage as well.
Who will the Dems put up for 2024?
No you know why turnout in 1788 was 11.6% by the design of the Founders.
Dependents and parasites were never intended to vote for evermore and conclusively deleterious “free stuff.”
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“the people are nothing but a great beast…
I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value.”
– Alexander Hamilton
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“The true reason (says Blackstone) of requiring any qualification, with regard to property in voters, is to exclude such persons, as are in so mean a situation, that they are esteemed to have no will of their own.”
“If it were probable that every man would give his vote freely, and without influence of any kind, then, upon the true theory and genuine principles of liberty, every member of the community, however poor, should have a vote… But since that can hardly be expected, in persons of indigent fortunes, or such as are under the immediate dominion of others, all popular states have been obliged to establish certain qualifications, whereby, some who are suspected to have no will of their own, are excluded from voting; in order to set other individuals, whose wills may be supposed independent, more thoroughly upon a level with each other.”
– Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, 1775
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Ben Franklin’s republic was a restricted-vote republic, distinctly not a one man, one vote democrazy.
For a citizen to vote in 1789, he must have generally been Male, European, 21 with 50lbs. Sterling or 50 acres.
Tytler/De Tocqueville posited that one man, one vote democracy would inevitably lead to collapse and dictatorship.
Bobby,
I didn’t see the clip, but offer to all Trumpists stands:
I am willing to admit that Biden is enfeebled IF you will agree with Turley’s characterization of Trump that he is a “carnival snake charmer.”
Deal?
That was Turley’s assessment of any entertainer managing the interview of Presidential candidates. Today his opinion is different. Turley relies on facts you don’t. Biden is enfeebled, whether you recognize it or not. Such recognition by you is meaningless as you don’t even have a positive reputation on this blog, much less anywhere else.
One one condition: you swear to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge
Do it, Jeff. Listen to those monstrous voices in your head. I have given you what you so desperately have sought from all of us with your 5,000 posts. I will agree with you that Trump is “x” provided you jump off of the Golden Gate bridge. Its quite an offer, brother. A gambling man would run and take the offer, then laugh all of the way down into the Pacific Ocean.
“The Golden Gate Bridge is the most used suicide site in the world. The deck is about 245 feet (75 m) above the water. After a fall of four seconds, jumpers hit the water at around 75 mph (120 km/h; 30 m/s). Most die from impact trauma. About 5% survive the initial impact but generally drown or die of hypothermia in the cold water”
– Wikipedia
Calling for my suicide. Here is another post that warrants Darren’s attention.
Let’s wait and see how he handles it.
Toughen up, Buttercup.
Jeff, I disagree with you 100% of the time, I hate your comments and I think you comment way to often…but the guy calling for you to jump is more of a jerk than you could ever be. Hey Jump guy, relax a bit and don’t make disagreements fatal.
Anonymous (the Stupid) is way more of a jerk than Jeff, but they are both trying to ruin this great site. Anonymous is doing it on purpose but Jeff is doing it through incompetence.
Bobby,
I don’t think I disagree with you 100% of the time. Why do you exaggerate about me? Must all things be black or white? There is absolutely nothing with which you agree?
What about my constantly pointing out that Turley is not a liar (unlike Trump).
Don’t I state that I agree with Turley’s criticism of advocacy journalism at the MSM (my only complaint being that he ignores it at Fox, Newsmax, and OAN)?
I agree with Turley’s view on censorship by Big Brother- I just disagree with his applying the 2nd Amendment against Little Brother.
I agree with Turley’s denouncing 1/6 as a “desecration” and his call upon Congress to censure Trump for his reckless speech. If you disagree with me on that, you also are disagreeing with Turley.
In the spirit of comity, give it some more thought, and revise and extend your remarks.
You didnt jump as offered. You could have had one success out of your thousands of comments that persuaded nobody other than your multiple personalities. All you had to do is jump. Pretty simple. But alas you did not which means you do not really believe all of the excrement you post on here and expect others to believe. You are not a true believer
JS, you don’t agree with Turley at all. There is a similarity in some of the words, but not their meaning. If anything, to Turley, you would be one of those people he would rather not be around. He would be too polite to tell you to your face what type of low-life you are, but I think inside, he would smile at the negative comments directed toward you on this blog.
No one wants that. Most members on the blog don’t like you but no one wants you to dispose of yourself. If you did we would have to spend a lot of money on a hazmat unit to clean you up.
Jeff:
Joe Biden either does, or does not, exhibit symptoms of mental decline, irregardless of anyone’s opinion of Donald Trump.
It is either a threat to national security and our geopolitical advantage, or not, to allow a cognitively deficient president to continue on, irregardless of anyone’s opinion of Trump.
Whether you admit, or don’t, to facts, has no connection to what anyone else thinks, says, or does. It’s based on your own integrity.
Deflecting.
Karen,
If you Trumpists are going to lie that Trump is NOT a chronic liar, I am under no moral obligation to be honest with you. Turley would not have called Trump what he did long ago had he thought him a man of integrity. Since becoming president, Turley has cited many times Trump making false or hard-to-swallow statements.
That Trump is a liar is a matter of opinion only to Trumpists. To the rest of us, it is established fact. We regard it as much a fact as you do Biden’s mental feebleness.
When you are ready to admit the obvious, so will I. Until then, Biden is as alert as ever.
Jeff: Clintons, obama, Biden, Comey, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Brennan, Clapper, Schiff, Nadler, have lied egregiously, and the litany could continue Why don’t you sit your arse back and get out of that Dem Socialists tunnel visioned channel locked brain set, and see the egregiousness of they all attempted a coup against DT, yet that troubles you not. The Russian collusion lies alone, of which an attempted removal of DT was carried to the Senate should trouble you, but NO.I would rather DT be POTUS that any Dem running since 1990. Now take your pseudo opinions and let it rest. I hyave mine you have yours. What will chap many Dems rears is unless big health issue arrive, DT will be voted POTUS in 2024. So just cut the ranting for a FEW.
Lighteredknot,
I would suggest you simply ignore my posts. I ignore contributions of many here, but I, unlike you, don’t advocate that they shut up. Apparently, you are new around here and are unaware that Turley invites all comers and never silences ANYONE unless they are uncivil.
I got a mouth. I intend to use it. If you don’t like it, tough.
Atta boy, Buttercup is toughening up!
Jeff, to Karen’s point, maybe Trump is a lying, narcissistic oddball, but the border was secure, the economy was rebounding WITHOUT INFLATION, there was peace in the Mideast, North Korea was not lobbing missiles, Iran had their leading terrorist killed and were in a box and Russia was not in the Ukraine. Now tell me what the senile Biden has done right.
Oh yeah, Trump got us the vaccine while Biden can’t even get us the therapeutics.
“I got a mouth. I intend to use it. “
Jeff, no one wants to stop you from using your mouth. They would prefer if before you used your mouth, you used your brain. Is that too much to ask for?
The obvious is that Joe Biden lies about things that matter. And Biden believes his own lies, which means he is also delusional.
Trump is an honest truth teller compared to most of the Swamp. Biden has been lying thru his fake teeth, and plagiarizing, for 50 years and getting away with it because no one in the media will call him what he is: a delusional pathological liar.
“If you Trumpists are going to lie that Trump is NOT a chronic liar, I am under…”
Jeff, Trump is not a chronic liar. He engages in puffery and promotion but probably lies to a lesser extent than most politicians.
You seem to be looking for a quid pro quo, telling others to agree to something that is not true so you can agree to something that is true (Biden’s mental feebleness). It doesn’t sound like you will get your desired response, but at least, at your expense, you gave a lot of us a chuckle.
Trump is probably one of the more honest Presidents. Turley respects Trump. Does he respect Jeff Silberman? NO.
Love the Portrait at the beginning of the story, it fits right in with the subject.
Would love to hear Applebaum’s opinion on how the media relentlessly went after the Trump children. Was that interesting to her? Totally irrelevant?
I think it’s clear that Applebaum is a Democratic Party propagandist. Applebaum is part of the totalitarian horde that’s been eating away at the core foundations of the United States during the 21st century in an effort to shift the culture to embrace totalitarianism. The question is, will the USA survive the 21st century cultural shift?
I think it’s clear that Applebaum is a Democratic Party propagandist.
We know from the DNC emails, that the DNC had over 70 media types that were available to afix their byline to something the DNC would submitt to them. The media are nothing but prostitutes, submitting to the slimiest desires of others, to get what they want.
It is impossible to be shocked at the glaring double standard. Maybe more accurately, a vacuum of standards, quickly filled by the vile tenets of leftist dogma.
We have come to a sad day where the majority (about 95%) of the Press is just one huge monolithic Squealer pig, just as Orwell predicted. The Press’s lack of conscience and their unwavering loyalty to the Democrat Party has earned them the ignominious title.
Democrats are of course Orwell’s huge and gluttonous pigs … Hunter’s laptop proves that for the Bidens, but don’t forget the Obama’s, CLinton’s, CA BLM leaders, Stacy Abrams, and the Pelosi/Newsome cabal + almost all of the Democrats in power. A bunch of Orwell pigs running our country – the world is laughing and Dem voters deserve the blame.
>> The Press’s lack of conscience and their unwavering loyalty to the Democrat Party has earned them the ignominious title.<<
I think you have it exactly backward. I think it's more accurate to frame it as The Democrat Party is loyal to the MSM.
The MSM (and egghead academics) effectively dictate most of the Democrat Party's policy preferences. They then frame the "national narrative" in a way to gain support for their preferred policies.
Steve Bannon was right when he said the MSM, not the Democrats, are the Opposition Party.
I think you have it exactly backward. I think it’s more accurate to frame it as The Democrat Party is loyal to the MSM.
Rush made the same observation. It was a morning that some big news had broken, the day before. Congress was in session, so the media was asking them for a reaction. All said they had just heard and would wait for details, By the next morning they all had a reaction, which matched to media take on the subject.
The media is driving the message….to Democrats
Arguably America’s greatest lawman – Robert Jackson – who prosecuted Nazis at Nuremberg and strongly believed “warrantless search & seizure” was the foundation to evils like Nazism.
In the American system, Jackson said that prosecutors can either be the very best government officials or the worst villains. What distinguishes the best from the worst in Jackson’s view as maybe America’s greatest lawman? Jackson was strongly opposed to prosecutors (or AGs) choosing their own cases instead of the cases own merits.
So it’s very curious, that American officials that violated Ronald Reagan’s torture treaty not only got off Scott-free but most were promoted. The DOJ simply ignored those war crimes (felonies under U.S. law). Those felony crimes, facilitated by legal malpractice of Bush torture attorneys, actually resulted in homicide and premature death of innocent people. The DOJ not interested in such crimes!
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Classic whataboutism. Excellent example of a man who has run out of crack and is showing signs of psychotic features and word salad. The pain Ashcroft is experiencing is very intense.
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The irony is Conservatives and Republicans hold up Ronald Reagan as their greatest leader and the Bush torture attorneys were disloyal to everything Reagan stood for. Reagan wanted even cruel treatment, in addition to torture, to be criminally prosecuted and it was US wartime law codified into the federal criminal code. The DOJ refused to enforce these crimes for nearly 20 years. Death resulted from these crimes.
Define Torture. You can’t be cause its like defining “Pursuit of Happiness”. Whatever the population of the United States is, that’s how many divination there are.
You took just one baby step. Judge Jackson noted that there are three fundamental justifications for law. Historical ie that was the laws were good enough for my ancestors so their good enough for me. Then along came our founders and based our system on the creator made us all equal,(finding the flaw in Aristotle reasoning that some people are born slaves and thus there should be two systems of law.(the flaw is he used 4 terms in his syllogism). And then he concluded the flaw of the Germans defence,of I was just following orders was based on Positivism, the concept that they were executing the written law so it must have been just. If you go on Google and search for the causes of WWII you’ll find a bunch of bull written by “social scientists” which has nothing to due with science. It took me hours to find Judge Jackson’s rulings on the Nuremberg trails.
From Scott Adams:
“How to fix everything:
1. Buy 9.2% of Twitter to gain influence over it.
2. Introduce algorithm transparency
3. Create first unbiased platform
Remember…
– Twitter controls journalists
– Journalists control the narrative.
– The narrative programs the citizens.”
Ms Applebaum is aiding and abetting a criminal enterprise, so she should be charged as an un-indicted co -conspirator when charges are brought.
Exactly! This is a tailor-made RICO case! Mail fraud, wire fraud, embezzlement, extortion predicate acts! Perkins Coie is a corrupt organization defrauding FBI and manipulating US press in order to elect Biden. Will they pay? Will anyone save this republic by ridding us of this lawyer-mafia?
Professor Turley quoted in article on Biden’s $13 million income from 2017-2019. That’s a lot of money for a man with dementia and a crack addict son
https://nypost.com/2022/04/06/legal-experts-call-for-biden-to-release-corporate-tax-returns/
“Legal experts call for President Biden to release corporate tax returns”
“Legal experts on Wednesday called for President Biden to release corporate tax returns that account for more than $13 million in income that he and First Lady Jill Biden reported to the IRS between 2017 and 2019, in between his stints as vice president and commander in chief.
George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley said that while there’s “no evidence of wrongdoing,” the scandal over son Hunter Biden’s overseas business dealings “has reached the point where the White House needs to err on the side of transparency.”
“The president’s past denials of any knowledge or involvement with his son’s business dealings now stands contradicted not only by witnesses and e-mails but also by Hunter Biden himself,” Turley wrote in an e-mail to The Post.
“Full disclosure and transparency would seem, at a minimum, warranted given the growing controversy.”
University of Minnesota law professor Richard Painter, who was chief White House ethics lawyer for then-President George W. Bush, also said that without the corporate returns, “you don’t know where the money’s coming from.”
“This exactly why it’s better to disclose — then every card is face-up on the table,” he said. “Otherwise, people have no idea what’s in there . . . and that undermines public confidence in the government.”
…..income from two so-called S corporations — CelticCapri Corp. and Giacoppa Corp. — comprised the vast majority of Joe and Jill Biden’s $16.7 million in earnings, respectively, between 2017 and 2019.”
We can guess where the money is coming from.
marveled at the success of the Biden family in making the scandal vanish before that 2020 election.
I beg to differ. The Biden family has zero sway, and really never has had any. The media is pulling the strings. The goal is to defeat conservatives, even if that means moving the heavens to install a geriatric, demented, husk of a man as President. The video of Biden wandering aimlessly at the Party thrown for Obama, let the world see how far down the United States has slid.
How many psychiatrists, psychologists, Democrats, Ethics professors and journalists pushed to remove Trump using the 25th Amendment?
It is no wonder that these are same people who decapitate newly born infants, suck unborn babies out of women, support “mercy” killing of the elderly and infirm, force toddlers to wear masks due to COVID “fears”, groom young children for gay / transsexual agitprop and are the number one source for “misinformation”
There is no limit to what leftists like Applebaum will say or write to protect their control over the “unwashed masses”. She only finds interesting the smears and attacks on those she opposes. She despises the duly elected populist parties of Poland and Hungary and of course the American Republican party. I would gladly submit to being governed by any of those parties rather than by the likes of Anne Applebaum, with her r own authoritarian, if not, totalitarian tendencies. The arrogance of people like Applebaum is repulsive. And her views are antithetical to U of Chicago’s traditions of critical thinking and freedom of speech. But alas I attended that university 40 years ago so maybe things have changed!
This person won a Pulitzer? Hunter Thompson was right
Apathy? Far from it. She is precisely everything that she has accused OF Trump, Republicans, Conservatives and non-Leftist media outlets. SHE HAS COLLABORATED WITH CHRIS STEELE, for Pete’s sake. See Amazon podcast link that follows. She is exactly a latrine of “disinformation”, aka LIES. This makes her a Democrat.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inside-Europe-Steele-Applebaum-Howard/dp/B09FXWJ5ZP
Inside Europe: Chris Steele, Anne Applebaum, Phil Howard
Trump-Russia dossier author Chris Steele, historian and writer Anne Applebaum and academic Phil Howard join Damian Collins MP to kick off this special series of Infotagion: Inside Europe. Each week Damian and disinformation expert Dr Charles Kriel will take a deep dive into the role of social media disinformation in the rise of populism across Europe with expert guests.
That she thinks her stance is perfectly acceptable is the tell. With the dems, it isn’t oligarchy, it is bonafide *aristocracy*, the kind this country was founded to eliminate. These are the new robber barons, period, and they really do believe they are better than you *just because*. You are voting for your own eventual subservience if you continue to vote for them in any capacity as they are currently constituted. They want a caste society and that’s all there is to it.
James,
Trumpists discredited themselves by their lies. They warrant being caste down as “untouchables” until they admit that there is no Deep State and the election was not rigged- neither of which Turley himself believes. Bless his heart!
The liar who lies without proof, Jeff Silverman says ‘When I lie…it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less, so don’t ask me about my lies because only my lies count…the truth begone.
John Durham says in new court filing that Clinton campaign, DNC and Fusion GPS are withholding documents pertinent to Sussmann case by citing a dubious attorney-client privilege claim. Fusion GPS withheld 1,455 docs, but only 18 involved a lawyer.
https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1511883946610642946
Twitter thought the laptop was relevant. How many days did they shut down the NYPost on their site because of it?
“My problem with Hunter Biden’s laptop is I think it’s totally irrelevant,” she said. “I mean, it’s not whether it’s disinformation… I didn’t think Hunter Biden’s business relationships have anything to do with who should be President of the United States.”
That is pure gaslighting.
Applebaum has a point. This whole “scandal” came about at a time when Trump and his ilk were constantly lying about election fraud, fake news, and the fact that Trump is well known for asking Russia for help against his opponents.
The mystery of how that laptop just appeared at some repair shop allegedly brought in by Rudi Giuliani made anything about it highly suspect. Giuliani who is facing disbarment and is well known for lying so much is conceivable to assume it is one reason why the media didn’t pay attention to it. It was a consequence of the Trump campaign’s constant lying.
As for the relevance, it still doesn’t imply any wrongdoing as Turley admits. Trump’s children did the same thing. Eric Trump running the trump organization, particularly the Trump hotel in D.C. acted as a pass-thru for trump. Remember Trump didn’t divest from his company.
Ivanka had businesses deals in China as well while being an official “advisor” to Trump. She could just as easily be accused of selling access to her father.
Turley never mentioned the influence-peddling and corruption of the Trump because it was irrelevant. Just as Hunter Biden’s business deals.
What exactly is the crime here? Trump and republicans proved this is not relevant. Because they too ignored the obvious corruption of the Trump family.
“The mystery of how that laptop just appeared at some repair shop allegedly brought in by Rudi Giuliani made anything about it highly suspect.”
True, but the laptop was proven legitimate, which was evident early on.
“Trump’s children did the same thing”
They didn’t do anything similar to Hunter. Their businesses and revenue streams were set up long before Trump ran for the Presidency. They stopped doing business in many areas because Trump was President. That was to prevent any question of impropriety. The children did not act as middlemen for a silent partner, nor were their activities hidden. Their moveme,nts were recorded openly, not in secret.
The Bidens shuffled along, trying to make as little noise as possible using false names to identify Joe Biden, such as the Big Guy or the 10% guy. The Bidens lied.
This reply warrants an official commendation from me even though it comes from one of the Anonymous commenters.
Nice rhetorical slap down of Svelaz’s moronically absurd trolling down the rabbit hole deflections.
Anonymous (S. Meyer),
“ True, but the laptop was proven legitimate, which was evident early on.”
It wasn’t evident early on. That’s why it was not taken seriously by mainstream media. With Trump and Giuliani lying incessantly the laptop story was treated as one more crazy conspiracy cooked up by Giuliani.
“ They didn’t do anything similar to Hunter. Their businesses and revenue streams were set up long before Trump ran for the Presidency. They stopped doing business in many areas because Trump was President. That was to prevent any question of impropriety. The children did not act as middlemen for a silent partner, nor were their activities hidden. Their moveme,nts were recorded openly, not in secret.”
Not true. When their business was set up is irrelevant. They still used their businesses in China and Russia to make money by selling access to their father. Ivanka got 18 trademarks for her business in China in record time when trump was in office. She being a close advisor to Trump it gave the Chinese access to trump.
“ A new Texas nonprofit led by Donald Trump’s grown sons is offering access to the freshly-minted president during inauguration weekend — all in exchange for million-dollar donations to unnamed “conservation” charities, according to interviews and documents reviewed by the Center for Public Integrity.
And the donors’ identities may never be known.”
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/donald-trumps-sons-behind-nonprofit-selling-access-to-president-elect/
Oops, looks like they were doing what Hunter Biden was doing.
If what the Trump kids were doing is legal. So is Hunter Biden’s business deals.
Looks like you were wrong as usual.
“It wasn’t evident early on.”
Most of the proof of ownership was known from the beginning. You seem to know next to nothing. Now you can prove yourself more than the dunce you are by providing the important proof and when it was discovered.
You show your lack of intelligence every time you post. The media lied to you, and social media prevented others from providing the truth. That truth that was denied hasn’t changed. Neither have you because instead of getting smarter, you get dumber.
The Trump family is international. Do you know what the word means, Svelaz? Apparently not, and that is why we have to listen to stuff that a 10-year-old can figure out.
I’ll repeat what I said before and wait for you to respond with facts instead of your usual garbage.
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“The mystery of how that laptop just appeared at some repair shop allegedly brought in by Rudi Giuliani made anything about it highly suspect.”
True, but the laptop was proven legitimate, which was evident early on.
“Trump’s children did the same thing”
They didn’t do anything similar to Hunter. Their businesses and revenue streams were set up long before Trump ran for the Presidency. They stopped doing business in many areas because Trump was President. That was to prevent any question of impropriety. The children did not act as middlemen for a silent partner, nor were their activities hidden. Their moveme,nts were recorded openly, not in secret.
The Bidens shuffled along, trying to make as little noise as possible using false names to identify Joe Biden, such as the Big Guy or the 10% guy. The Bidens lied.
“The mystery of how that laptop just appeared at some repair shop . . .”
A druggie abandons a laptop at a repair shop — and that, to you, is a “mystery.” (?!)
You don’t get out much, do you.
As for the relevance, it still doesn’t imply any wrongdoing as Turley admits.
Hunter and Archer money manegment firm got $1.5 Billion. from China. Do the annual fees on manageing that portfolio (half of one percent? 7.5 million) and tell me you you want that to be the standard allowed in American Politics
Clintons wife windfall in trading cattle futures is literally pocket change compared to to Biden.
The Cattle future scam was always transparent. You take a long and short position, and pay out the winner, and payoff the loser out of pocket. Simple way to buy influence without the FEC having any jurisdiction
Jon… I don’t understand your complaint. It has been clear since the day Obama started his run for presidency…we have the media of 1950’s Russia and 1970’s China. Democrats are FULL fascists using every lever of government and businesses…to CONTROL people!
if you vote Democrat…you HATE AMERICA
I suggest that everyone watch the clip of this arrogant, elitist partisan hack and then try to tell us that there aren’t two systems of justice in our land. Democrat privilege is a real thing and it is time that it ended. Burn down a FEDERAL courthouse, get bail, walk into the Capital and sit in isolation for 14 months.