Former FBI General Counsel (and now Twitter lawyer) James Baker has long been a lightning rod for critics over the role of the FBI in pushing false Russian collusion claims. Baker did not help himself with those critics yesterday when he took the stand in the trial of Michael Sussmann, former Clinton campaign counsel. After declaring Sussmann a friend, Baker seemed to shrug off the fact that he previously failed to turn over a critical piece of evidence to Special Counsel John Durham because “this is not my investigation. This is your investigation.”
Sussmann faces a single charge under 18 U.S.C. 1001 for lying to the FBI in a meeting with Baker.
In the indictment, Sussmann is accused of “mak[ing] a materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statement or representation” in conversations with Baker. Durham argued that “the defendant provided the FBI General Counsel with purported data and ‘white papers’ that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel between the Trump Organization and a Russia-based bank.”
Sussmann’s choice of Baker was little surprise to critics who have long viewed the former General Counsel as one of those officials who facilitated Russian collusion claims.
On the stand, Baker explained that he continues to be a friend of Michael Sussmann, who he met during their time together at the Justice Department.
The most striking statement in the testimony arose after Baker was asked about his belated turning over of a key piece of evidence. A text message from Sussmann before their meeting clearly showed Sussmann denying that he was contacting Baker on behalf of any client. He was representing the Clinton campaign and charged the time to the campaign:
“Jim — it’s Michael Sussmann. I have something time-sensitive (and sensitive) I need to discuss. Do you have availability for a short meeting tomorrow? I’m coming on my own — not on behalf of a client or company — want to help the Bureau. Thanks.”
As I previously discussed, the text was a bombshell for the case in directly contradicting Sussmann’s claim that Baker merely misremembered their conversation.
Baker was asked why he never informed Special Counsel John Durham of the text despite the long investigation of Sussmann. Indeed, he did not turn over the text after Sussmann was indicted on September 16th.
Baker’s response was telling: “It’s frankly — I’m not out to get Michael and this is not my investigation. This is your investigation.”
That came off a lot like “why should I help you?” Even being used as a conduit for a baseless, false allegation by a campaign did not seem to motivate Baker to actively seek to turn over any evidence in his possession. The phone that Baker used in the DOJ was reportedly turned over the Inspector General but Baker admitted that the information was on the cloud and he was able to later locate it. However, the question is how this communication on a key issue under investigation could have skipped the mind or attention of Baker given prior interviews and testimony.
Baker said that he found the message in March and turned it over to his lawyer. That seems like a rather belated discovery. Alfa bank was under investigation for years, including extensive investigations by Congress, the Mueller investigation and the Durham investigation. Yet, Baker did not previously review his own interactions with Clinton counsel or involvement on either the Steele dossier or Alfa Bank allegations?
Baker specifically testified in 2018 on Russian collusion claims involving the Trump organization and campaign. This included extensive questions about his interaction with Sussmann. In the hearing, Baker told Congress that he “did not recall” if Sussmann said he was representing anyone in the meeting, even though he had a text expressly stating that he was not representing the campaign or anyone else in the meeting. Indeed, Baker testified “I don’t remember knowing why Michael Sussman, for example, was coming into the office.”
Even if Baker continues to maintain that he did not know that Sussmann was working for Clinton at the time of their meeting, it was clear early in the investigation that Sussmann and his partner at Perkins Coie, Marc Elias, were involved in the allegations of a false campaign-driven Russian collusion allegations.
Baker, however, reportedly shrugged off the question and testified “I’m not out to get Michael and this is not my investigation. This is your investigation. If you ask me a question, I answer it.”
In truth, it is the investigation of the United States Department of Justice, where Baker held a top position.
The testimony left the impression that Baker was going to cooperate but could hardly be expected to seek to help the Justice Department in proving a possible crime by Clinton campaign counsel. He indicated that he had to be specifically asked for such information and could not be expected to volunteer it or to seek to confirm evidence in his possession: “Nobody had asked me to go look for this material before that.”
When he came into possession of information from Sussmann, Baker told Congress, “I wanted to get it out of my hands into the hands of agents as quickly as possible.” That did not appear the standard that he applied to evidence in his possession that was material to Durham investigation of the Clinton campaign.
It is just not Baker’s job. After all, this is not his investigation.
185 thoughts on ““Not My Investigation”: Former FBI General Counsel Shrugs Off Delay in Turning Over Key Text Message”
A waste of time and money since the judge is married to the lawyer for for Lisa Page and AG Garland presided over their wedding! If you think this will be a fair trial I have a bridge you might want to buy.
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Nothing prevented Durham from asking the judge to recuse.
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Not to mention there are 3 Hillary donors on the jury.
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Unelected “fellow travelers” who think the constitution doesn’t apply to them….
The bureaucracies should be scattered amongst the various flyover states so that swamprats cannot plot coups on the dc cocktail circuit.
Send the doj to the middle of Kansas and the fbi to Toadsuck Arkansas. Let’s see how many of those weasels want their jobs bad enough to move away from the luxurious setting of Washington DC.
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Hillbilly, we’ve never seen you before. Just popped out of nowhere?
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So Turley wants to point out when someone is stonewalling? Where was Turley between the years 2017 and 2021.
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FishWings, so you say you wanted the stonewalling to stop but now you think that stonewalling is a good thing. One would think that because of the stonewalling that occurred you would call for your side doing the right thing by being transparent. I understand. The thought never crossed your mind.
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Very to the point ;- )
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Oh how I long for the good ole days when this blog debated the merits of liberal and conservative policies respective of the rule of constitutional law. What we have now is pure tribal lawfare and there are no rules in this war.
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Olly:
“Oh how I long for the good ole days when this blog debated the merits of liberal and conservative policies respective of the rule of constitutional law. What we have now is pure tribal lawfare and there are no rules in this war.”
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Like so many evils, it came with size and success. There once was a small group of us like FFL, Bob, rafflaw, Mike S. et als who really had high-level discussions. JT even chimed in with a great story about his dual weddings. Then the paid ideologues showed up and the debate deteriorated to the back and forth nonsense we have now. Still fun but decidely less educational.
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Mepso,
Mike A. was another I would add to that group you cite. I recall you and rafflaw were guest bloggers. I believe Mike A. debated from the liberal perspective. Didn’t rafflaw as well? It was a great learning environment and I don’t recall any of you defending anyone that blatantly abused power and violated their oaths. It’s now as fun as it is educational.
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My terrible bad. Mike A was there and a wonderful contributor.
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Mespo,
Just for the record, I don’t get paid unlike Turley. But I will switch sides for $5,000/month.
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“We know what you are,dear. We’re just negotiating the price, “ said Mr. Churchill.
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If Turley can sell out to Fox, I’ll sell out to. A lawyer can argue either side if the price is right.
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Is is a sellout to awaken one day and realize you’ve been bamboozled by those you believed in? If people didn’t exercise this ability, there would be no divorces, no one would quit her job, and I’d never change my mind about that hairdo I cherished in my youth. A wizard said, “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?” Turley is fundamentally a smart man. There are many like him out there and growing everyday – sort of like inflation and gas prices!
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Narquan,
It’s selling out to complain about advocacy journalism at CNN and MSNBC while ignoring it at Fox News. This is what Turley has done and no one here can disprove it because it is undeniably true.
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Olly, everything changed about 2 years ago when The Blog Stooge started fielding 20 puppets per day. Since then no discussion can develop without The Stooge getting in the middle.
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Anonymous’ new big word is stooge. Her favorite word used to be troll. This is what she does instead of presenting a argument based on the facts.
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You’re confusing two different anonymous commenters.
The Anonymous who used to post under the name Seth Warner complains about blog “stooges.”
I’m a different Anonymous, and I sometimes call people trolls, especially those who frequently lie and/or insult.
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Thinkthrough, YOU are The Blog Stooge. You are the reason we can’t have real debates anymore.
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What we have now is pure tribal lawfare and there are no rules in this war.
It is now America’s religion. Religion played a key role in the founding of the United States, e.g. Jamestown, VA; Colonial America; Bill of Rights, etc. Religion permeated the writings of the US Founding Fathers. Look at their public writings and personal letters to friends. They conveyed a deference to God, a spirit of humility that persisted to Abraham Lincoln.
The shift away from religion began with Fred Vinson and Earl Warren’s SCOTUS. See Fr. John Courney Murray, SJ, in his magnum opus I have referenced many times: We Hold These Truths, published by Sheed & Ward, 1960. It is a prophetic work that has proven more succinct than any other explanation of how and why our nation has collapsed. Fr Murray saw it coming from Vinson and Warren’s SCOTUS rulings and he sounded the alarm from the 1940s forward. Roe v Wade sealed our demise.
Faith has become less important to personal identity. Consequently we no longer have a consensus in this country. With God being ejected from our hearts and public squares, pandemonium rules. Now political ideologies are imbued in our everyday speech, with each side pronouncing who the sheep and goats are, the infidels, the damned, the chosen. I cant even read New England Journal of Medicine anymore because it is seeped in political ideologies. Sickening. The conservative vs liberal tropes are all a farce. The Jews of the Old Testament “Book of Exodus”, chapter 32 and following, vis a vis “golden calf”, had nothing on our arrogance.
The ancients possessed greater intellect and more wisdom than all of the last 1000 years combined. Sophia indeed!
(Koinē Greek: σοφία / sophia / “wisdom”)
Athanasius of Alexandria, 298 AD
Author of “On the Incarnation” (317) & “The Nicene Creed” (325)
“The Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God.”
“The Son of God became man so that men might become sons of God.”
“You cannot put straight in others what is warped in yourself.”
Augustine of Hippo, 354 AD
Author of: “Confessions”, “City of God”
“You have made us for Yourself, and our hearts are restless until they rest in You.” (Confessions I, i, 1)
“Excess is the enemy of God.”
“If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don’t like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself.”
“Works not rooted in God are splendid sins.”
Thomas Aquinas, 1225 AD
Author of “Summa Theologica” (1274) and “Summa Contra Gentiles” (1264)
“All the efforts of the human mind cannot exhaust the essence of a single fly.”
“If the only way open to us for the knowledge of God were solely that of reason, the human race would remain in the blackest shadows of ignorance.”
“Knowledge must be through faith.”
“All the good that is in a man is due to God.”
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The New England Journal of Medicine went left wing over 40 years ago. It was great in the 1970’s but after Arnold Relman took over it started to make a slide toward the left that made the NEJM became almost unreadable outside of the upper northeast. It lost is luster to specialty journals and others. It’s CPC discussions had been classics. But eventually It gave so little relevant information, I eventually cancelled it and depended on the Green Journal, ARRD, Chest, and several other journals. The CME offered by Harvard was much more even handed right up into 2010’s but there were different program directors there. Whenever Relman gave talks at other meetings and pushed his views there was a great deal of consternation. A comment I often heard from other physicians was “What universe does this guy (Relman) live in” because it did not seem to to be relevant to the world outside New England. I agreed with his push to illuminate conflicts of interest and not have journal articles pre published by the lay press but his slavish adherence to a British model National Health like system was idiocy. I am an advocate of a national health system but more along the same order as the German system (present with modification since 1883). Relman public statement sometimes seemed more Pollyanna like than reality.
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“Thomas Aquinas, 1225 AD”
You’re cherry picking Aquinas, and misrepresenting his philosophy.
As a philosopher, Aquinas was an *Aristotelian* — and thus a passionate defender of reason. His commentaries on Aristotle were nearly single-handedly responsible for the reintroduction of Aristotle to the West, and thus responsible for the rise of the Renaissance. The Renaissance — the period that marked the end of that religion- and faith-dominated era known as the Dark Ages.
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Only, this has turned into a food fight.
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You can thank Trumpism and Q-Anon for that. This blog should be restricted to lawyers who can prove their degrees. That is, if you want a discussion of “rule of constitutional law” and not pure tribal warfare. I suspect Turley has a blog which is so restricted where he can engage with legal scholars and academics as opposed to this cesspool.
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So far, JS, the lawyer, has proven he knows very little and is insulting. He wishes to limit list members to lawyers thinking it would become a better place. I’m not advocating that JS leave, but if he did, the list would become a better place with a higher level of discussion.
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Anon says:
“I’m not advocating that JS leave”
That’s the nicest thing you have ever said about me. Thanks!
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Is there Q-Anon in the room with you now?? WHY is it that only Progressives like you can see them everywhere. Are they hiding behind all the white supremacists like the black white Supremacist who shot up the beauty salon and murdered 3 Asian women?? ( The chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, Rep. Joyce Beatty, D-Ohio, “On Monday, three people in a Korean-owned hair salon in Dallas were gunned by yet another White supremacy replacement theorist,” Beatty said to the assembled crowd.
“We are sick of the pipeline from racist rhetoric to racist violence,” Beatty continued.
When EVERYBODY, including blacks are white supremacists, is there such a thing as racism??
I agree, Olly, and do you know WHO is responsible for setting off the tribal warfare in this country and keeping it going? Trump, with his pettiness, need for revenge, ignorance of how government works and need to attack anyone who doesn’t kiss his ring and pander to his ego. The subjects of his attacks are not just Democrats, but members of his own party and other world leaders when he couldn’t bully them…there’s no limit. He is a deeply-flawed person who had no business in the White House in the first place.
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“WHO is responsible for setting off the tribal warfare in this country and keeping it going? Trump . . .”
You’re delirious and woefully ignorant of history.
Tribalism began in this country decades ago, e.g., the racist notion of hyphenated “Americans.” That tribalism was caused by collectivist college professors.
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Of course he knew how government “worked”. Those that opposed him knew he knew how government “worked”. And they knew he was a threat to the establishment political order. That’s why they had to take him out. That’s why they are still trying to take him out. Donald Trump didn’t spark the tribal warfare happening today. It was smoldering long before the arrival of Trump. What he did was break the Democratic party from any connection to their moderate moorings and they had no place but to go but Leftward, under the control of their socialist wing. rafferty and Appleton likely bugged out of this blog because they couldn’t honorably defend where their party was going. mespo on the other hand remains because the side he’s defending hasn’t abandoned our constitutional rule of law.
He is a deeply-flawed person who had no business in the White House in the first place.
That describes the current president to a tee.
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In light of the bizarre and filthy nature politics, especially now. I have grown to respect Richard Nixon a little more. (Never respected him before) He at least admitted that he was wrong and understood that the controversy surrounding his presidency was not helping the citizens of this nation as is illustrated in this snippet from his farewell speech.
“I deeply regret any injuries that may have been done in the course of the events that led to this decision.”
What we are witnessing now is a direct assault on the citizens of this nation by radical activists. They accomplish much of their agenda outside of the legislative process and thus bypassing the will of the people.
For what? Raw power, control and material gain. They are relentless in their endeavors. They are a tight knit boys and girls club of elites, A Cosa Nostra.
To fair minded people this is nothing less than bizarre and dangerous. They don’t care about the little people who are being squeezed by 40% increase in energy costs, hyper inflation and a border disaster that has implications for everyone.
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CONFESSIONS
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history. The co-conspirators are:
Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,
Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,
Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,
Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,
Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney et al.
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Exactly what kind of patriotic “natural born citizen” engages in “…fundamentally transforming the United States of America”?
Answer: A “fake” one – one who was never actually eligible for the office that requires it for that very reason – for the very reason provided by John Jay to George Washington on 25 July 1787.
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One who thinks there are 57 states!
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Dennis, he went to Harvard.
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Baker should be disbarred. If he was the counsel for the FBI, this is proof he was protecting INDIVIDUALS at the determent to his client, the FBI itself (and our Country as a whole).
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Horseavtivist, we’ve never seen you before. Just popped out of nowhere?
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He was a longshot
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why did sussman have a pass to bakers building?
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He should not have said “it is not my investigation, it is your investigation.”
He should have said “Durham’s investigation is a ridiculous attempt to prosecute anyone who dared to blow the whistle on Trump, and I wanted no part of it. This is your absurd prosecution, not mine. It is a long line of Republicans who always prefer to “investigate the investigators” rather than investigate or prosecute Trump and his people. This has enabled Trump’s corruption for many, many years.”
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LoL
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Are you serious and if so you’re an idiot, America lost. It’s not about DJT, it’s about deep State corruption.
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Stooge, it’s about a nominee who had been doing business with Russians for 25 years.
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Enabler Putrid
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They falsified DNS logs and came up with a story that candidate Trump had direct contact with the kremlin, and it turned out to be an email server sending spam to customers. They even came up with a bogus story that Trump was using a Russian made Yotaphone. This to take the eyes off the public from a Secretary of State who used a personal email server to conduct government business with classified information on it! The entire country was dragged through two years of frivolous investigations and speculation, yet according to you “yadda yadda yadda Trump corruption”.
Durham’s investigation is shining the light on the real corruption of the democrat party and it’s leaders.
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If you have evidence that someone(s) “falsified DNS logs” and gave them to the FBI, you should turn your evidence over to Durham, as knowingly providing material false documents to the FBI is a crime.
I doubt you have evidence. My guess is: you’re treating your conjecture as if it were a fact.
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Trump1 says:
“Durham’s investigation is shining the light on the real corruption of the democrat party and it’s leaders.”
Meh.
This charge against Sussman is nothing more than a mere “process crime” not unlike how you Trumpists dismissed as insignificant the charges brought against Flynn.
Two can play that game.
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So, Turley’s assignment today is to try to make the Sussman trial sound important or even legitimate, all to avoid the BIG political story: Trump told Oz to just declare himself the winner even though thousands of mail-in ballots haven’t been counted yet, and because Oz is ahead about 1,200 votes in same-day tallies, which aren’t complete, either. Unlike other states, Pennsylvania does not allow mail-in ballots to be opened or counted until Election Day. And, according to media accounts, mail ballots are favoring Oz’s opponent by a 9-point margin. Trump is claiming, without any evidence whatsoever, that they’ll “find” fake votes, and that mail-in ballots are fraudulent. Hummmm….where have I heard this one before?
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Natcha, Barr good or evil.
This is Barr assigning Durham.
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“Unlike other states, Pennsylvania does not allow mail-in ballots to be opened or counted until Election Day. ”
But they could tell us how many they need to count. But they wont. Because they don’t know yet, how many “found ballots” are going to be needed.
One election integrity step should be the total number of votes cast, with in an hour of the polls closing.
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There aren’t any “found” ballots. Over 30,000 arrived on Election Day alone.
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“they don’t know yet, how many “found ballots” are going to be needed. ”
This is a Republican primary. Are you alleging that Republicans are cheating?
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Sure. The establishment Republicans that cant be differentiated from centrist Democrats. Then there are Conservatives, that work to return to constitutional rule.
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So this is the new ReTrumplican line of attack: if you don’t win, there was cheating; if polls show you aren’t likely to win, the election was rigged. And, apparently, this even applies to primaries. What hope is there for American democracy when such childish antics are acceptable?
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Natacha,
I agree that there’s a tendency to see it like that if you don’t like the person to begin with. That’s human nature and we all practice it whether we seek to or not. But, realistically, there were enough doubts raised by what was shown on TV (remember the scenes in Atlanta?) and elsewhere to cast doubt – just as candidate Hillary Clinton did in 2016 when she made the very same claim. The truth is worth finding out even if it requires that we look at things that are troubling. Someday a candidate you like will come along and may be on the losing side of a cheater. That’s why it’s to your benefit and mine that we improve the system to make it cheat-proof as much as possible.
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It’s the Democrat playbook. 2016? Stacy Abrams? What are you gonna do about it, keep whining?
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We are no better than the banana republics. We are supposed to trust our institutions? All of these people inside and out of the government should be charged with RICO. Until then, I will continue to have zero respect or trust in the FBI, DOJ, CIA, and the rest of the alphabet soup of government agencies siphoning my tax dollars.
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My motto has been trust no one question everything. Look at Pharma, Govt, Banking and Educational institutions. They all lie thru their teeth because it is for their greater good not yours.
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Moereen says:
“My motto has been trust no one; question everything.”
I’m glad you will not trust the Durham witch-hunt.
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We all know that the FBI and the Clinton Lawyers, AND the DOJ were working together, they should all be charged with crimes, sedition, conspiracy, and made to be back to the USA all of the monies used up in this sham investigation. The media should be stripped of their Press Credentials who fostered this BS. And yes, then these same TYPES stole the Election. And Turley and others in his circles KNOW THIS. Its evil, call it out.
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“WE” don’t know any of these things. The election was NOT stolen Trump was predicted to lose by every poll, most Americans didn’t vote for him in 2016 or 2020, and he decimated our economy, our public health, our relations with our allies and opponents, he drove unemployment to 10% and started a trade war with China resulting in a shortage of computer chips. You are just a simpleton disciple that believes everything you hear on alt-right media.
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This “Natacha” either is a paid troll or is functionally insane.
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Can we choose “all of the above”?
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Troll
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It sounds like you are talking about what Joe FJB has done to the country in the last year and a half. Did you buy your electric car yet? $10 a gallon gas is coming.
So is $10 box of cereal, $10 gallon of milk and $10 loaf of bread. All while your babies cry out for food their mommas cannot find on American store shelves. All courtesy of FJB and the Democrats.
This is not incompetence; this is intentional.
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“This is not incompetence; this is intentional.”
Yep.
They’re following in the footsteps of their spiritual brother, Lenin: “The worse, the better.”
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Natacha, You know what, you are entitled to be as stupid as you want, and god knows you exercise that freedom well. But when you say ignorant bs like “Trump drove unemployment to 10%”, you truly demonstrate the completely partisan hack, echo chamber, deranged “logic” that drives your incessant drivel. Its not alt-right, dumbass, its mainstream conservative thought. Which, whether you agree with it or not, is no worse than the “alt-left” shite that you must listen to 24/7
China??? SMH
Here, let me just spew some ridiculous garbage like you just did. The only thing the trade war did was cause China, with funding from Soros, to unleash a pandemic that got them and you exactly what you wanted. Your boy in power…and we are so much better off now.
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Tom L: I cite FACTS, and in return, I get called names, accused of lying, accused of being deranged and insulted right and left. You disciples cannot handle facts because you’ve been conditioned, thanks to Fox News, to believe the Big Lie, that anything other than alt-right media are lying to you, that America really loved and wanted Trump, that he did a good job, that he was cheated out of his “landslide victory”, that Democrats are evil, that the statistics about Trump’s utter failure as a leader are all lies, and the xenophobic lies about China intentionally “unleashing” a pandemic. There’s no reasoning with you because you are immune to facts. When someone presents you with facts you don’t like, you pull the covers over your head and yell “liar”, “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, “Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton are cannibalistic pedophiles”… etc.. There’s just no getting through to you. Trump is the WORST POTUS ever. He’s never succeeded at anything on his own, other that nurturing the false image of a self-made billionaire boy-wonder. He has bankrupted 6 businesses, and there’s a long string of business failures, including 3 casinos that failed. How on earth could someone like this, with a massive ego and who is intellectually not very bright and very immature (resorts to insults and name-calling) ever hope to run the United States?
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Sounds like you covered all the facts. It’s all true. Oh and don’t forget the utterly unbelievable “narrative”: 81,000,000 legit and legal votes cast for basement Joe. Hahahaha. Yeah, no.
And make no mistake, no one in this country is laughing. We are all suffering, needlessly, because of Joe Biden and the Democrats intentionally destructive policies.
And you are 100% wrong: Trump was the greatest POTUS of our lifetime, bar none. You know it. They know it. We all know it. Suck on that.
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Trump is the worst POTUS of our lifetime, bar none. You know it. They know it. We all know it. Suck on that.
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Literally EVERY credible presidential historian will tell you that Trump failed at every single parameter used to measure success as a president, and it’s not just flipping a successful economy into a recession, or mishandling a pandemic, starting a trade war, failing to pass meaningful legislation, driving up the national debt to a record level and setting the stage for the current inflation which is plaguing us now: it’s other things like America’s relations with other countries, reflecting our values, America’s image on the world stage, serving as a role-model, gaining the respect and admiration of other world leaders. Trump flopped badly. It’s a fact. He was and is a world-wide laughingstock.
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Are you one of the 2 in 10 who say the U.S. is heading in the right direction? Because about 80 percent of the country say we are heading in the wrong direction by every measure.
Trump is the Great MAGA King. Biden is the Lyin’ King intentionally destroying this country and our standing in the world. We know it. They know it. The world knows it.
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Monson says:
“And Turley and others in his circles KNOW THIS”
Why hasn’t Turley said so? Is he being silenced? Or maybe he doesn’t know….
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No matter how assiduously Mr. Baker attempts to wash his hands of this matter, the stench still lingers. Corruption, like mold has a unique, cloyingly sweet perfume. No one will mistake Hillary’s fragrance for Chanel #5.
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Don’t try to tell me there isn’t a protected class in America. The problem is, brain-dead liberals don’t seem to realize that this a description of them. It is astonishing to me that otherwise smart people are this dense. Seriously. Once again, you are no longer voting for JFK, you are voting for Mao. Snap the heck out of it. I have never in my life seen anything so concrete as liberal belief, including our host at times. They embarrass the Catholic church in terms of what constitutes heresy, for Pete’s sake. Stop. Voting. Dem. Now. I promise, nothing will happen to your immortal soul if you do not vote Dem in November. You will likely pay less for gas and by extension all the other stuff that gas supports. Stop letting idiotic 20-30 somethings override your better judgement, you are supposed to be grown ups. If you have refused that up to now, step up to the dang plate. this is not sustainable, and eventually it’s going to hit you right between the eyes.
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The partisan political corruption in the FBI has been so patently evident since the 2016 election, a network deviously crafted, spawned and developed by Eric Holder in the Obama adm. The degree and depth of the corruption staggers one’s grasp of reality, and indeed the coordinated conspiracy in the FBI and the DOJ to derail the Trump campaign and destroy Trump’s presidency confirms the scope and treacherous power of the ‘swamp’. A full house cleaning of the DOJ and FBI is overdue, but do not forget, those involved in the corruption must be held accountable…and that includes not only James Baker, but the cast of characters we’ve heard of for 6 years; Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, Yates, Sztrock, Page, Ohr, Weissmann. We know who they are, what they did… and sadly, nothing!
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They all belong in prison.
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I bet you were one of the lying Trumpists screaming “Lock her up” at the rallies. Am I right?
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Do you actually think she should be in the White House and not in prison?
Hell yah Lock her up.
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Sounds suspiciously like Robert Mueller saying, “Not in my purview….”
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The whole of the US Government, includinng Congress, and every agency, is a cesspool of corruption, incompetence, waste, fraud and abuse. They even corrupt the IG’s who are charged with tackling the fraud, waste, and abuse.
Which party wants more government? Which party wants to limit government?
Who wanted to take a wrecking ball to Washington DC? Trump.
Your vote in the next election is crystal clear. Or at least it should be if you are a clear-thinking, rational-minded normal person. (see Elon Musk’s latest comment that he will vote Republican in next election).
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Anyone who votes to put more Democrats in power at any level of government is truly insane and off their rocker.
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Just check out this comment section for examples….
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“I don’t remember knowing why Michael Sussman, for example, was coming into the office.”
I don’t recall? That old chestnut.
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Just wait until we see what the DC jury has to say. It’s a DC jury. A DC judge. Guess how things are going to go? These corrupt pos’s are all gonna skate. Like they always do.
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Durham knows the likely outcome as clearly as you do. He knows this investigation will likely result in zero prosecutions inside the High Castle, where shielding each other from the laws applied to the peasants beyond the moat consumes most of the courtiers’ time. Durham is dissecting the most harmful political conspiracy in American history for future historians, in a more objective time (if it ever comes), not with the forlorn expectation of prosecuting Sussman, who will surely skate away smiling in a triple axle, waving to the judge, who is married to Garland’s counsel, and to that juror who is a Clinton donor.
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waving to the judge, who is married to Garland’s counsel, and to that juror who is a Clinton donor.
I’m so old, I remember when some demanded Thomas recuse himself, because of his wife.
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Durham could have asked the judge to recuse.
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Add this to the pile of DC poo: Judge Cooper has denied the request by prosecutors to remove Juror #5 from the panel because her daughter and Sussmann’s daughter are on the same crew team.
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please for the love of God just nuke the damn place
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Has it occurred to you that Durham doesn’t have good evidence for his allegation?
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It amazes me that liberals can play blind , deaf , and dumb when they feel threaten with the truth .
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So far, much ahead of Mueller. At least Durhams indictments will stand before the courts to have the facts argued. Much different than Mueller indicting Russians, that could not be compelled to answer the indictment. Is short, worthless window dressing to fool the mindless leftist.
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Are you stoned?
He has their emails and text messages.
It’s a slam dunk, even if the swamprats have it rigged with another swamprat judge and some swamprats in the jury.
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You have no idea what evidence he has.
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For some of his evidence, I have much more than an “idea” about it, because he’s presented it in his filings; and for that evidence, I’m also aware of the problems with it. I don’t know what other evidence he has, and I look forward to seeing it.
Former FBI General Counsel (and now Twitter lawyer) James Baker has long been a lightning rod for critics over the role of the FBI in pushing false Russian collusion claims. Baker did not help himself with those critics yesterday when he took the stand in the trial of Michael Sussmann, former Clinton campaign counsel. After declaring Sussmann a friend, Baker seemed to shrug off the fact that he previously failed to turn over a critical piece of evidence to Special Counsel John Durham because “this is not my investigation. This is your investigation.”
A waste of time and money since the judge is married to the lawyer for for Lisa Page and AG Garland presided over their wedding! If you think this will be a fair trial I have a bridge you might want to buy.
Nothing prevented Durham from asking the judge to recuse.
Not to mention there are 3 Hillary donors on the jury.
Unelected “fellow travelers” who think the constitution doesn’t apply to them….
The bureaucracies should be scattered amongst the various flyover states so that swamprats cannot plot coups on the dc cocktail circuit.
Send the doj to the middle of Kansas and the fbi to Toadsuck Arkansas. Let’s see how many of those weasels want their jobs bad enough to move away from the luxurious setting of Washington DC.
Hillbilly, we’ve never seen you before. Just popped out of nowhere?
So Turley wants to point out when someone is stonewalling? Where was Turley between the years 2017 and 2021.
FishWings, so you say you wanted the stonewalling to stop but now you think that stonewalling is a good thing. One would think that because of the stonewalling that occurred you would call for your side doing the right thing by being transparent. I understand. The thought never crossed your mind.
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Very to the point ;- )
Oh how I long for the good ole days when this blog debated the merits of liberal and conservative policies respective of the rule of constitutional law. What we have now is pure tribal lawfare and there are no rules in this war.
Olly:
“Oh how I long for the good ole days when this blog debated the merits of liberal and conservative policies respective of the rule of constitutional law. What we have now is pure tribal lawfare and there are no rules in this war.”
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Like so many evils, it came with size and success. There once was a small group of us like FFL, Bob, rafflaw, Mike S. et als who really had high-level discussions. JT even chimed in with a great story about his dual weddings. Then the paid ideologues showed up and the debate deteriorated to the back and forth nonsense we have now. Still fun but decidely less educational.
Mepso,
Mike A. was another I would add to that group you cite. I recall you and rafflaw were guest bloggers. I believe Mike A. debated from the liberal perspective. Didn’t rafflaw as well? It was a great learning environment and I don’t recall any of you defending anyone that blatantly abused power and violated their oaths. It’s now as fun as it is educational.
My terrible bad. Mike A was there and a wonderful contributor.
Mespo,
Just for the record, I don’t get paid unlike Turley. But I will switch sides for $5,000/month.
“We know what you are,dear. We’re just negotiating the price, “ said Mr. Churchill.
If Turley can sell out to Fox, I’ll sell out to. A lawyer can argue either side if the price is right.
Is is a sellout to awaken one day and realize you’ve been bamboozled by those you believed in? If people didn’t exercise this ability, there would be no divorces, no one would quit her job, and I’d never change my mind about that hairdo I cherished in my youth. A wizard said, “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?” Turley is fundamentally a smart man. There are many like him out there and growing everyday – sort of like inflation and gas prices!
Narquan,
It’s selling out to complain about advocacy journalism at CNN and MSNBC while ignoring it at Fox News. This is what Turley has done and no one here can disprove it because it is undeniably true.
Olly, everything changed about 2 years ago when The Blog Stooge started fielding 20 puppets per day. Since then no discussion can develop without The Stooge getting in the middle.
Anonymous’ new big word is stooge. Her favorite word used to be troll. This is what she does instead of presenting a argument based on the facts.
You’re confusing two different anonymous commenters.
The Anonymous who used to post under the name Seth Warner complains about blog “stooges.”
I’m a different Anonymous, and I sometimes call people trolls, especially those who frequently lie and/or insult.
Thinkthrough, YOU are The Blog Stooge. You are the reason we can’t have real debates anymore.
What we have now is pure tribal lawfare and there are no rules in this war.
It is now America’s religion. Religion played a key role in the founding of the United States, e.g. Jamestown, VA; Colonial America; Bill of Rights, etc. Religion permeated the writings of the US Founding Fathers. Look at their public writings and personal letters to friends. They conveyed a deference to God, a spirit of humility that persisted to Abraham Lincoln.
The shift away from religion began with Fred Vinson and Earl Warren’s SCOTUS. See Fr. John Courney Murray, SJ, in his magnum opus I have referenced many times: We Hold These Truths, published by Sheed & Ward, 1960. It is a prophetic work that has proven more succinct than any other explanation of how and why our nation has collapsed. Fr Murray saw it coming from Vinson and Warren’s SCOTUS rulings and he sounded the alarm from the 1940s forward. Roe v Wade sealed our demise.
Faith has become less important to personal identity. Consequently we no longer have a consensus in this country. With God being ejected from our hearts and public squares, pandemonium rules. Now political ideologies are imbued in our everyday speech, with each side pronouncing who the sheep and goats are, the infidels, the damned, the chosen. I cant even read New England Journal of Medicine anymore because it is seeped in political ideologies. Sickening. The conservative vs liberal tropes are all a farce. The Jews of the Old Testament “Book of Exodus”, chapter 32 and following, vis a vis “golden calf”, had nothing on our arrogance.
e.g. America Without God
“As religious faith has declined, ideological intensity has risen”
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/04/america-politics-religion/618072/
The ancients possessed greater intellect and more wisdom than all of the last 1000 years combined. Sophia indeed!
(Koinē Greek: σοφία / sophia / “wisdom”)
Athanasius of Alexandria, 298 AD
Author of “On the Incarnation” (317) & “The Nicene Creed” (325)
“The Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God.”
“The Son of God became man so that men might become sons of God.”
“You cannot put straight in others what is warped in yourself.”
Augustine of Hippo, 354 AD
Author of: “Confessions”, “City of God”
“You have made us for Yourself, and our hearts are restless until they rest in You.” (Confessions I, i, 1)
“Excess is the enemy of God.”
“If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don’t like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself.”
“Works not rooted in God are splendid sins.”
Thomas Aquinas, 1225 AD
Author of “Summa Theologica” (1274) and “Summa Contra Gentiles” (1264)
“All the efforts of the human mind cannot exhaust the essence of a single fly.”
“If the only way open to us for the knowledge of God were solely that of reason, the human race would remain in the blackest shadows of ignorance.”
“Knowledge must be through faith.”
“All the good that is in a man is due to God.”
The New England Journal of Medicine went left wing over 40 years ago. It was great in the 1970’s but after Arnold Relman took over it started to make a slide toward the left that made the NEJM became almost unreadable outside of the upper northeast. It lost is luster to specialty journals and others. It’s CPC discussions had been classics. But eventually It gave so little relevant information, I eventually cancelled it and depended on the Green Journal, ARRD, Chest, and several other journals. The CME offered by Harvard was much more even handed right up into 2010’s but there were different program directors there. Whenever Relman gave talks at other meetings and pushed his views there was a great deal of consternation. A comment I often heard from other physicians was “What universe does this guy (Relman) live in” because it did not seem to to be relevant to the world outside New England. I agreed with his push to illuminate conflicts of interest and not have journal articles pre published by the lay press but his slavish adherence to a British model National Health like system was idiocy. I am an advocate of a national health system but more along the same order as the German system (present with modification since 1883). Relman public statement sometimes seemed more Pollyanna like than reality.
“Thomas Aquinas, 1225 AD”
You’re cherry picking Aquinas, and misrepresenting his philosophy.
As a philosopher, Aquinas was an *Aristotelian* — and thus a passionate defender of reason. His commentaries on Aristotle were nearly single-handedly responsible for the reintroduction of Aristotle to the West, and thus responsible for the rise of the Renaissance. The Renaissance — the period that marked the end of that religion- and faith-dominated era known as the Dark Ages.
Only, this has turned into a food fight.
You can thank Trumpism and Q-Anon for that. This blog should be restricted to lawyers who can prove their degrees. That is, if you want a discussion of “rule of constitutional law” and not pure tribal warfare. I suspect Turley has a blog which is so restricted where he can engage with legal scholars and academics as opposed to this cesspool.
Directed at Olly
So far, JS, the lawyer, has proven he knows very little and is insulting. He wishes to limit list members to lawyers thinking it would become a better place. I’m not advocating that JS leave, but if he did, the list would become a better place with a higher level of discussion.
Anon says:
“I’m not advocating that JS leave”
That’s the nicest thing you have ever said about me. Thanks!
Is there Q-Anon in the room with you now?? WHY is it that only Progressives like you can see them everywhere. Are they hiding behind all the white supremacists like the black white Supremacist who shot up the beauty salon and murdered 3 Asian women?? ( The chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, Rep. Joyce Beatty, D-Ohio, “On Monday, three people in a Korean-owned hair salon in Dallas were gunned by yet another White supremacy replacement theorist,” Beatty said to the assembled crowd.
“We are sick of the pipeline from racist rhetoric to racist violence,” Beatty continued.
When EVERYBODY, including blacks are white supremacists, is there such a thing as racism??
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/05/chair_of_congressional_black_caucus_blames_white_supremacy_replacement_theorist_for_shooting_in_dallas_koran_hair_salon_where_perp_was_black.html
I agree, Olly, and do you know WHO is responsible for setting off the tribal warfare in this country and keeping it going? Trump, with his pettiness, need for revenge, ignorance of how government works and need to attack anyone who doesn’t kiss his ring and pander to his ego. The subjects of his attacks are not just Democrats, but members of his own party and other world leaders when he couldn’t bully them…there’s no limit. He is a deeply-flawed person who had no business in the White House in the first place.
“WHO is responsible for setting off the tribal warfare in this country and keeping it going? Trump . . .”
You’re delirious and woefully ignorant of history.
Tribalism began in this country decades ago, e.g., the racist notion of hyphenated “Americans.” That tribalism was caused by collectivist college professors.
Of course he knew how government “worked”. Those that opposed him knew he knew how government “worked”. And they knew he was a threat to the establishment political order. That’s why they had to take him out. That’s why they are still trying to take him out. Donald Trump didn’t spark the tribal warfare happening today. It was smoldering long before the arrival of Trump. What he did was break the Democratic party from any connection to their moderate moorings and they had no place but to go but Leftward, under the control of their socialist wing. rafferty and Appleton likely bugged out of this blog because they couldn’t honorably defend where their party was going. mespo on the other hand remains because the side he’s defending hasn’t abandoned our constitutional rule of law.
He is a deeply-flawed person who had no business in the White House in the first place.
That describes the current president to a tee.
In light of the bizarre and filthy nature politics, especially now. I have grown to respect Richard Nixon a little more. (Never respected him before) He at least admitted that he was wrong and understood that the controversy surrounding his presidency was not helping the citizens of this nation as is illustrated in this snippet from his farewell speech.
“I deeply regret any injuries that may have been done in the course of the events that led to this decision.”
What we are witnessing now is a direct assault on the citizens of this nation by radical activists. They accomplish much of their agenda outside of the legislative process and thus bypassing the will of the people.
For what? Raw power, control and material gain. They are relentless in their endeavors. They are a tight knit boys and girls club of elites, A Cosa Nostra.
To fair minded people this is nothing less than bizarre and dangerous. They don’t care about the little people who are being squeezed by 40% increase in energy costs, hyper inflation and a border disaster that has implications for everyone.
CONFESSIONS
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history. The co-conspirators are:
Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,
Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,
Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,
Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,
Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,
Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,
Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney et al.
Exactly what kind of patriotic “natural born citizen” engages in “…fundamentally transforming the United States of America”?
Answer: A “fake” one – one who was never actually eligible for the office that requires it for that very reason – for the very reason provided by John Jay to George Washington on 25 July 1787.
One who thinks there are 57 states!
Dennis, he went to Harvard.
Baker should be disbarred. If he was the counsel for the FBI, this is proof he was protecting INDIVIDUALS at the determent to his client, the FBI itself (and our Country as a whole).
Horseavtivist, we’ve never seen you before. Just popped out of nowhere?
He was a longshot
why did sussman have a pass to bakers building?
He should not have said “it is not my investigation, it is your investigation.”
He should have said “Durham’s investigation is a ridiculous attempt to prosecute anyone who dared to blow the whistle on Trump, and I wanted no part of it. This is your absurd prosecution, not mine. It is a long line of Republicans who always prefer to “investigate the investigators” rather than investigate or prosecute Trump and his people. This has enabled Trump’s corruption for many, many years.”
LoL
Are you serious and if so you’re an idiot, America lost. It’s not about DJT, it’s about deep State corruption.
Stooge, it’s about a nominee who had been doing business with Russians for 25 years.
Enabler Putrid
They falsified DNS logs and came up with a story that candidate Trump had direct contact with the kremlin, and it turned out to be an email server sending spam to customers. They even came up with a bogus story that Trump was using a Russian made Yotaphone. This to take the eyes off the public from a Secretary of State who used a personal email server to conduct government business with classified information on it! The entire country was dragged through two years of frivolous investigations and speculation, yet according to you “yadda yadda yadda Trump corruption”.
Durham’s investigation is shining the light on the real corruption of the democrat party and it’s leaders.
If you have evidence that someone(s) “falsified DNS logs” and gave them to the FBI, you should turn your evidence over to Durham, as knowingly providing material false documents to the FBI is a crime.
I doubt you have evidence. My guess is: you’re treating your conjecture as if it were a fact.
Trump1 says:
“Durham’s investigation is shining the light on the real corruption of the democrat party and it’s leaders.”
Meh.
This charge against Sussman is nothing more than a mere “process crime” not unlike how you Trumpists dismissed as insignificant the charges brought against Flynn.
Two can play that game.
So, Turley’s assignment today is to try to make the Sussman trial sound important or even legitimate, all to avoid the BIG political story: Trump told Oz to just declare himself the winner even though thousands of mail-in ballots haven’t been counted yet, and because Oz is ahead about 1,200 votes in same-day tallies, which aren’t complete, either. Unlike other states, Pennsylvania does not allow mail-in ballots to be opened or counted until Election Day. And, according to media accounts, mail ballots are favoring Oz’s opponent by a 9-point margin. Trump is claiming, without any evidence whatsoever, that they’ll “find” fake votes, and that mail-in ballots are fraudulent. Hummmm….where have I heard this one before?
Natcha, Barr good or evil.
This is Barr assigning Durham.
“Unlike other states, Pennsylvania does not allow mail-in ballots to be opened or counted until Election Day. ”
But they could tell us how many they need to count. But they wont. Because they don’t know yet, how many “found ballots” are going to be needed.
One election integrity step should be the total number of votes cast, with in an hour of the polls closing.
There aren’t any “found” ballots. Over 30,000 arrived on Election Day alone.
“they don’t know yet, how many “found ballots” are going to be needed. ”
This is a Republican primary. Are you alleging that Republicans are cheating?
Sure. The establishment Republicans that cant be differentiated from centrist Democrats. Then there are Conservatives, that work to return to constitutional rule.
So this is the new ReTrumplican line of attack: if you don’t win, there was cheating; if polls show you aren’t likely to win, the election was rigged. And, apparently, this even applies to primaries. What hope is there for American democracy when such childish antics are acceptable?
Natacha,
I agree that there’s a tendency to see it like that if you don’t like the person to begin with. That’s human nature and we all practice it whether we seek to or not. But, realistically, there were enough doubts raised by what was shown on TV (remember the scenes in Atlanta?) and elsewhere to cast doubt – just as candidate Hillary Clinton did in 2016 when she made the very same claim. The truth is worth finding out even if it requires that we look at things that are troubling. Someday a candidate you like will come along and may be on the losing side of a cheater. That’s why it’s to your benefit and mine that we improve the system to make it cheat-proof as much as possible.
It’s the Democrat playbook. 2016? Stacy Abrams? What are you gonna do about it, keep whining?
We are no better than the banana republics. We are supposed to trust our institutions? All of these people inside and out of the government should be charged with RICO. Until then, I will continue to have zero respect or trust in the FBI, DOJ, CIA, and the rest of the alphabet soup of government agencies siphoning my tax dollars.
My motto has been trust no one question everything. Look at Pharma, Govt, Banking and Educational institutions. They all lie thru their teeth because it is for their greater good not yours.
Moereen says:
“My motto has been trust no one; question everything.”
I’m glad you will not trust the Durham witch-hunt.
We all know that the FBI and the Clinton Lawyers, AND the DOJ were working together, they should all be charged with crimes, sedition, conspiracy, and made to be back to the USA all of the monies used up in this sham investigation. The media should be stripped of their Press Credentials who fostered this BS. And yes, then these same TYPES stole the Election. And Turley and others in his circles KNOW THIS. Its evil, call it out.
“WE” don’t know any of these things. The election was NOT stolen Trump was predicted to lose by every poll, most Americans didn’t vote for him in 2016 or 2020, and he decimated our economy, our public health, our relations with our allies and opponents, he drove unemployment to 10% and started a trade war with China resulting in a shortage of computer chips. You are just a simpleton disciple that believes everything you hear on alt-right media.
This “Natacha” either is a paid troll or is functionally insane.
Can we choose “all of the above”?
Troll
It sounds like you are talking about what Joe FJB has done to the country in the last year and a half. Did you buy your electric car yet? $10 a gallon gas is coming.
So is $10 box of cereal, $10 gallon of milk and $10 loaf of bread. All while your babies cry out for food their mommas cannot find on American store shelves. All courtesy of FJB and the Democrats.
This is not incompetence; this is intentional.
“This is not incompetence; this is intentional.”
Yep.
They’re following in the footsteps of their spiritual brother, Lenin: “The worse, the better.”
Natacha, You know what, you are entitled to be as stupid as you want, and god knows you exercise that freedom well. But when you say ignorant bs like “Trump drove unemployment to 10%”, you truly demonstrate the completely partisan hack, echo chamber, deranged “logic” that drives your incessant drivel. Its not alt-right, dumbass, its mainstream conservative thought. Which, whether you agree with it or not, is no worse than the “alt-left” shite that you must listen to 24/7
China??? SMH
Here, let me just spew some ridiculous garbage like you just did. The only thing the trade war did was cause China, with funding from Soros, to unleash a pandemic that got them and you exactly what you wanted. Your boy in power…and we are so much better off now.
Tom L: I cite FACTS, and in return, I get called names, accused of lying, accused of being deranged and insulted right and left. You disciples cannot handle facts because you’ve been conditioned, thanks to Fox News, to believe the Big Lie, that anything other than alt-right media are lying to you, that America really loved and wanted Trump, that he did a good job, that he was cheated out of his “landslide victory”, that Democrats are evil, that the statistics about Trump’s utter failure as a leader are all lies, and the xenophobic lies about China intentionally “unleashing” a pandemic. There’s no reasoning with you because you are immune to facts. When someone presents you with facts you don’t like, you pull the covers over your head and yell “liar”, “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, “Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton are cannibalistic pedophiles”… etc.. There’s just no getting through to you. Trump is the WORST POTUS ever. He’s never succeeded at anything on his own, other that nurturing the false image of a self-made billionaire boy-wonder. He has bankrupted 6 businesses, and there’s a long string of business failures, including 3 casinos that failed. How on earth could someone like this, with a massive ego and who is intellectually not very bright and very immature (resorts to insults and name-calling) ever hope to run the United States?
Sounds like you covered all the facts. It’s all true. Oh and don’t forget the utterly unbelievable “narrative”: 81,000,000 legit and legal votes cast for basement Joe. Hahahaha. Yeah, no.
And make no mistake, no one in this country is laughing. We are all suffering, needlessly, because of Joe Biden and the Democrats intentionally destructive policies.
And you are 100% wrong: Trump was the greatest POTUS of our lifetime, bar none. You know it. They know it. We all know it. Suck on that.
Trump is the worst POTUS of our lifetime, bar none. You know it. They know it. We all know it. Suck on that.
Literally EVERY credible presidential historian will tell you that Trump failed at every single parameter used to measure success as a president, and it’s not just flipping a successful economy into a recession, or mishandling a pandemic, starting a trade war, failing to pass meaningful legislation, driving up the national debt to a record level and setting the stage for the current inflation which is plaguing us now: it’s other things like America’s relations with other countries, reflecting our values, America’s image on the world stage, serving as a role-model, gaining the respect and admiration of other world leaders. Trump flopped badly. It’s a fact. He was and is a world-wide laughingstock.
Are you one of the 2 in 10 who say the U.S. is heading in the right direction? Because about 80 percent of the country say we are heading in the wrong direction by every measure.
Trump is the Great MAGA King. Biden is the Lyin’ King intentionally destroying this country and our standing in the world. We know it. They know it. The world knows it.
Monson says:
“And Turley and others in his circles KNOW THIS”
Why hasn’t Turley said so? Is he being silenced? Or maybe he doesn’t know….
No matter how assiduously Mr. Baker attempts to wash his hands of this matter, the stench still lingers. Corruption, like mold has a unique, cloyingly sweet perfume. No one will mistake Hillary’s fragrance for Chanel #5.
Don’t try to tell me there isn’t a protected class in America. The problem is, brain-dead liberals don’t seem to realize that this a description of them. It is astonishing to me that otherwise smart people are this dense. Seriously. Once again, you are no longer voting for JFK, you are voting for Mao. Snap the heck out of it. I have never in my life seen anything so concrete as liberal belief, including our host at times. They embarrass the Catholic church in terms of what constitutes heresy, for Pete’s sake. Stop. Voting. Dem. Now. I promise, nothing will happen to your immortal soul if you do not vote Dem in November. You will likely pay less for gas and by extension all the other stuff that gas supports. Stop letting idiotic 20-30 somethings override your better judgement, you are supposed to be grown ups. If you have refused that up to now, step up to the dang plate. this is not sustainable, and eventually it’s going to hit you right between the eyes.
The partisan political corruption in the FBI has been so patently evident since the 2016 election, a network deviously crafted, spawned and developed by Eric Holder in the Obama adm. The degree and depth of the corruption staggers one’s grasp of reality, and indeed the coordinated conspiracy in the FBI and the DOJ to derail the Trump campaign and destroy Trump’s presidency confirms the scope and treacherous power of the ‘swamp’. A full house cleaning of the DOJ and FBI is overdue, but do not forget, those involved in the corruption must be held accountable…and that includes not only James Baker, but the cast of characters we’ve heard of for 6 years; Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, Yates, Sztrock, Page, Ohr, Weissmann. We know who they are, what they did… and sadly, nothing!
They all belong in prison.
I bet you were one of the lying Trumpists screaming “Lock her up” at the rallies. Am I right?
Do you actually think she should be in the White House and not in prison?
Hell yah Lock her up.
Sounds suspiciously like Robert Mueller saying, “Not in my purview….”
The whole of the US Government, includinng Congress, and every agency, is a cesspool of corruption, incompetence, waste, fraud and abuse. They even corrupt the IG’s who are charged with tackling the fraud, waste, and abuse.
Which party wants more government? Which party wants to limit government?
Who wanted to take a wrecking ball to Washington DC? Trump.
Your vote in the next election is crystal clear. Or at least it should be if you are a clear-thinking, rational-minded normal person. (see Elon Musk’s latest comment that he will vote Republican in next election).
Anyone who votes to put more Democrats in power at any level of government is truly insane and off their rocker.
Just check out this comment section for examples….
“I don’t remember knowing why Michael Sussman, for example, was coming into the office.”
I don’t recall? That old chestnut.
Just wait until we see what the DC jury has to say. It’s a DC jury. A DC judge. Guess how things are going to go? These corrupt pos’s are all gonna skate. Like they always do.
Durham knows the likely outcome as clearly as you do. He knows this investigation will likely result in zero prosecutions inside the High Castle, where shielding each other from the laws applied to the peasants beyond the moat consumes most of the courtiers’ time. Durham is dissecting the most harmful political conspiracy in American history for future historians, in a more objective time (if it ever comes), not with the forlorn expectation of prosecuting Sussman, who will surely skate away smiling in a triple axle, waving to the judge, who is married to Garland’s counsel, and to that juror who is a Clinton donor.
waving to the judge, who is married to Garland’s counsel, and to that juror who is a Clinton donor.
I’m so old, I remember when some demanded Thomas recuse himself, because of his wife.
Durham could have asked the judge to recuse.
Add this to the pile of DC poo: Judge Cooper has denied the request by prosecutors to remove Juror #5 from the panel because her daughter and Sussmann’s daughter are on the same crew team.
please for the love of God just nuke the damn place
Has it occurred to you that Durham doesn’t have good evidence for his allegation?
It amazes me that liberals can play blind , deaf , and dumb when they feel threaten with the truth .
So far, much ahead of Mueller. At least Durhams indictments will stand before the courts to have the facts argued. Much different than Mueller indicting Russians, that could not be compelled to answer the indictment. Is short, worthless window dressing to fool the mindless leftist.
Are you stoned?
He has their emails and text messages.
It’s a slam dunk, even if the swamprats have it rigged with another swamprat judge and some swamprats in the jury.
You have no idea what evidence he has.
For some of his evidence, I have much more than an “idea” about it, because he’s presented it in his filings; and for that evidence, I’m also aware of the problems with it. I don’t know what other evidence he has, and I look forward to seeing it.