How the Sussmann Trial Inadvertently Revealed the Role of Clinton in the Alfa Bank Scandal

Below is an expanded version of my column in The Hill on the implication of Hillary Clinton in false Alfa Bank claims of Russian collusion. While most media ignored the testimony of Clinton’s former campaign manager in the Sussmann trial, it adds to a damning record on how the Clinton campaign was behind arguably the most successful disinformation campaign in American political history with both the Steele dossier and the Alfa bank claims. Ironically, despite Sussmann efforts to conceal his connections to Clinton in the FBI meeting, it was his counsel who effectively outed Clinton in the scandal. Former Clinton Campaign manager Robby Mook then violated the Eleventh Commandment of Democrats: Thou shalt not name a Clinton in a scandal.

Here is the column:

The trial of former Clinton campaign attorney Michael Sussmann crossed a critical threshold Friday when a key witness uttered the name “Hillary Clinton” in conjunction with a plan to spread the false Alfa Bank Russian collusion claim before the 2016 presidential election.

For Democrats and many in the media, Hillary Clinton has long held a Voldemort-like status as “She who must not be named” in scandals. Yet, there was her former campaign manager, Robby Mook, telling a jury that Clinton personally approved a plan to spread the false claim of covert communications between the Trump organization and the Russian bank. It was one of the most successful disinformation campaigns in American politics, and Mook implicated Clinton as green-lighting the gas-lighting of the electorate.

The mere mention of Clinton’s name sent shockwaves through Washington. In past scandals, the Clintons have always evaded direct responsibility as aides were investigated or convicted, from the Whitewater land dealings to cattle futures. Even when long-sought documents in Whitewater were discovered outside of the family quarters and bearing Hillary Clinton’s fingerprints, Washington quickly moved on.

Clinton was presumed to be untouchable in the Sussmann trial after Judge Christopher Cooper, an Obama appointee, issued a series of orders limiting the scope of the trial and its evidence. The orders were viewed as “spar[ing] the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee … potential embarrassment.”

Ironically, after successfully excluding such areas from the trial, it was the defense that called Mook to the stand — and he proceeded to confirm that Clinton herself approved of the collusion disinformation tactic.

It was Washington’s worst-kept but least-acknowledged secret.

On July 28, 2016, then-CIA Director John Brennan briefed President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s alleged plan to tie Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” Obama reportedly was told how Clinton allegedly approved “a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service.”

Thus, Mook testified that Clinton did precisely what Brennan warned Obama was being planned.

The date of Brennan’s warning is important: It was three days before the FBI’s collusion investigation began. It also was a couple of months before Sussmann contacted then-FBI general counsel Jim Baker while claiming he was not representing any client. (He was counsel to the Clinton campaign and, according to prosecutors, billed the time to the campaign.)

There is a strikingly familiar pattern in both the Steele dossier — which became the basis for the Russia collusion investigation — and the Alfa Bank tale. Campaign associates developed both claims while actively seeking to conceal their connections from the public and the government, including reportedly denying the funding of the Steele dossier and concealing that funding as legal costs.

The campaign then pushed these unfounded claims to the media and the FBI. Indeed, prosecutors this week contended that Sussmann continued to push the Alfa Bank claims after Trump was elected, in an apparent effort to fuel the Russia collusion claims being breathlessly reported in the media at the time.

When Clinton allegedly approved this disinformation effort, her campaign was aware that the Alfa Bank theory was never viewed as credible by researchers tasked with supporting it. Those researchers warned that it would be easy to “poke several holes” in the claim and that the data could be seen as “a red herring.” Yet, trial witnesses admitted that they hoped the media would make the claims stick.

Despite a record of Clinton associates aggressively pushing these false allegations to the FBI on both the Steele dossier and Alfa Bank, Mook and another witness, Clinton campaign general counsel Marc Elias, insisted they preferred to use the media for such efforts. The campaign found a conduit in one liberal magazine, for example, whose story was then cited as a “bombshell” report, as if the campaign had had nothing to do with it.

For her part, Clinton not only approved using the false Alpha Bank claim but personally helped to portray it as an established fact, tweeting: “Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.”

That claim was then further amplified by one of her campaign advisers, Jake Sullivan, who now serves as President Biden’s national security adviser. Sullivan declared at the time: “This could be the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow. Computer scientists have uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.” Sullivan added that he could “only assume federal authorities will now explore this direct connection between Trump and Russia as part of their existing probe into Russia’s meddling in our elections.”

As the FBI’s Baker and other witnesses told jurors this week, there was in fact “nothing there.”

The sudden and unexpected inclusion of Hillary Clinton in Sussmann’s trial occurred despite the best efforts of Judge Cooper and the defense. Besides limiting the scope of evidence involving Clinton, the judge allowed three Clinton donors to sit as jurors,  along with another juror who is a supporter and donor to liberal firebrand Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.).

For special prosecutor John Durham, it must seem like the only juror missing is Chelsea Clinton. When we discuss a “jury of your peers,” however, it is not meant to suggest that a Clinton lawyer should be tried by Clinton supporters.

Months after approving the Alpha Bank disinformation strategy, Clinton called in December 2016 to censor opponents who she accused of spreading falsehoods to try to influence elections. She declared that “it’s now clear that so-called ‘fake news’ can have real-world consequences.” Indeed, Clinton has pushed for state and corporate censorship while demanding a “global reckoning” with those who spread disinformation. Of course, Sussmann could still face the real consequence of conviction given the strength of the evidence against him. Yet, there will likely not be consequences, let alone a “reckoning,” for Hillary Clinton.

 

230 thoughts on “How the Sussmann Trial Inadvertently Revealed the Role of Clinton in the Alfa Bank Scandal”

  1. Jonathan: Trying to predict the outcome of the Sussmann trial is like trying to predict the weather 3 days from now in my part of the country. Of course you predicted Elon Musk would bring “free speech” back to Twitter. So let’s see how that prediction is playing out in real time–even though Musk has yet to finalize the deal. Here’s the latest development:

    Musk is mad as hell about accusations by one of his former flight attendants at Tesla that he engaged in unwanted sexual advances while she was giving him a “massage” at 30,000 ft. Two days ago Musk announced in a tweet: “Tesla is building a hardcore [no allusion to porn] litigation department where we directly initiate & execute lawsuits. The team will report directly to me…We will never surrender/settle to an unjust claim against us, even if we will probably lose”. Q: How can a claim be “unjust” if you lose it in court? Anyway, the enigmatic Elon says he is looking for “hardcore streetfighters, not white-shoe lawyers”. Sounds like the lawyers Trump frequently hires. Shades of Roy Cohn and Rudy Giuliani. Musk has obviously received encouragement from Trump. He wants to strike fear in his critics by filing “strike” lawsuits to harass and deter them from criticizing him. So those of you who have Twitter accounts–fair warning. If you thought a suspension or ban from Twitter was bad under current management you haven’t seen nothin’ if Musk takes charge. Elon is a big fan of free speech, but he also will sue you if he doesn’t like what you say about him. Now, Jonathan, is that the kind of “free speech” you had in mind from a Musk owned Twitter?

    1. Free speech is just that free. I was banned from Twitter for reposting a story about Hunter Biden’s laptop with a picture of him swinging in the breeze with just a robe on (his private part blurred out) and a very young child in the bed behind him. Now that Elon is buying it, if he doesn’t find fraud in the fake accounts, I got back on. I was banned for a posting a true story and you I’m sure will call that good. I’m an adult and if someone posts something I feel is untrue, I just keep scrolling or block them from me seeing it but taking them off the platform is wrong. I got banned to protect Biden and his dirty dealings with China and Ukraine.

      1. When Obama was in the 1st 2 times he made it legal for the US Govt & all of the 30 + intel agencies to Lie to the American people & they are at full force.

        Govt & Intel are using places like old dying media, Facebook, Twitter, Game Playing MSG BBs to spread their lies.

  2. I must apologize. Earlier today I referred to Anonymous as her when I should have said them. This was them answer when I explained that all Russian money is dirty because Russia is controlled by 100 oligarchs. Them wasn’t interested that companies such as Burger King and Marriott are involved with the dirty money of Russia. Them was only interested in Donald Trump doing business in Russia because them still believes that Donald Trump is a Russian spy. I hope the change in pronoun will be to your satisfaction Anonymous. The companies I mention to them are just the tip of the iceberg. I hope that now them is satisfied. https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/numerous-american-companies-still-doing-business-in-russia

  3. OT:

    This is a travesty of epic proportions. Leftists are the enemy of American families. Period.

    The Pronoun Police Come for Middle Schoolers

    A Wisconsin school district opened a Title IX sexual-harassment investigation against 8th graders for calling a student ‘her’ instead of ‘them.’

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-pronoun-police-middle-schoolers-sexual-harassment-title-ix-nine-mispronouning-transgender-lgbtqia-free-speech-pronoun-11653337766

  4. What if Mook’s testimony speaks directly to the “Clinton” jurors that got past the strikes to prevent a guilty verdict?

    1. If an attempt was made to “prevent a guilty verdict,” why didn’t the conscientious and fair “JUDGE” determine that the defendant could not get a truly fair “fair trial,” and change the venue?

      Is “fair” a one-way street?

      1. George, there’s no motion to transfer venue by the defense. The Court won’t do that sua sponte. I think Professor Turley, and certainly Andrew McCarthy have mentioned that the DC jury pool reflects a very liberal populace. This was going to be a hard case for Durham to win from the get-go. I don’t have the details of how the parties used up their peremptory strikes, nor the Court’s rulings on any challenges for cause. What we do know is that jurors are on the panel that have a variety of meaningful connections to Hillary Clinton. The optics of those connections drive my question. If the verdict is guilty, the question is moot. If not guilty or a hung jury there’s my question. A violation of the Voldemort proscription produces a defense favoring outcome. Al Capone started his federal tax evasion trial with a bought jury. The judge brought in another jury panel unbought and the trial proceeded to conviction. At least in The Untouchables. Let’s see what happens in this trial.

        1. RE:”””What we do know is that jurors are on the panel that have a variety of meaningful connections to Hillary Clinton. The optics of those connections drive my question.””” How is a jury empaneled in DC that a pool so potentially biased in favor of the defense is conveniently available to be drawn from? Do enlighten me please.

          1. There are two distinct steps in your question: drawn from and empaneled. The drawn from is the Court itself calling in citizens from its list of those qualified to serve. To my knowledge the citizens party preference does not affect the list. Empaneled is the selection of jurors through the voir dire at the commencement of trial. That’s where both sides can question potential jurors in the quest for those who reasonably indicate willingness to receive the evidence and follow the Court’s instructions on the law. And to strike those who do not. Is the process perfect? No. Is it the best we have been able to devise? Yes. Give them the facts so they want to hold with you. Give them the law so that they can hold with you.

            1. RE:”””There are two distinct steps in your question:….””” Thank you for your prompt reply and review. Yes, I am familiar with those two distinct steps. I am also aware of how citizens in the three jurisdictions in which I have lived are called for jury duty. Might it be different in DC than elsewhere. I find it more than just ‘interesting’ as to how the time had come for the four ‘suspects’ cited. Memories of the jury foreskin at the Roger Stone trail remain fresh.

        2. Yeah, it’s sort of like Trump: if he loses, there was cheating, but if he wins, then no cheating. You’ve already decided that there should be a guilty verdict even though you weren’t in court, didn’t have an opportunity to assess the credibility of witnesses and their demeanor, but if there isn’t a guilty verdict, you’ve already decided that the process wasn’t fair. This is the exact mentality of Trumpsters. And, BTW, according to Kellyanne Conway’s new book, Trump KNEW he lost in 2020, but syncophants who kiss up to him kept telling him he was robbed, and once he went down that path, his ego wouldn’t let him back down.

  5. “On July 28, 2016, then-CIA Director John Brennan…

    briefed President Obama…

    …on Hillary Clinton’s alleged plan to tie Donald Trump to Russia as ‘a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.’ Obama reportedly was told how Clinton allegedly approved ‘a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service.'”

    – Professor Turley
    _______________

    Guilty as charged.

    Guilty of sabotage.

    Guilty of subversion.

    Guilty of sedition.

    Guilty of the Obama Coup D’etat in America through deployment of Obama’s FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, FISA Court, etc.
    _________________________________________________________________________________________

    CONFESSIONS

    “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

    – Barack Obama
    ______________

    “We will stop him.”

    – Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
    ___________________________________

    “[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”

    – Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
    _________________________________

    “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”

    – Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
    ________________________________

    The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history. The co-conspirators are:

    Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,

    James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,

    James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,

    Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,

    Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,

    Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,

    Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,

    Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,

    Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,

    Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney et al.

    1. This comment. Nailed it!! Infuriating that there will be no consequences. Justice System has been corrupted since O.J. trial, and is now 100 times worse. This is a massive conspiracy to undermine justice by a criminal gang who have invaded our entire law enforcement structure. So sad they will.get away with it.

  6. Trump Partnered With Bayrock, A Trump Tower Tenant

    Donald Trump said in a recent interview with NBC’s Lester Holt, “I have had dealings over the years where I sold a house to a very wealthy Russian many years ago. I had the Miss Universe pageant — which I owned for quite a while — I had it in Moscow a long time ago. But other than that, I have nothing to do with Russia.”

    The reality, however, is that Trump couldn’t be more wrong. The President has deep Russian connections that far exceed what he admitted to Holt.

    In a 2007 deposition that Trump gave as part of his unsuccessful defamation lawsuit against reporter Timothy O’Brien, he describes efforts to launch real estate ventures in Russia through Bayrock Associates, a shady Russian-connected outfit. Bayrock had partnered with Trump on at least four major but failed American projects: the Fort Lauderdale Trump Tower, the Trump Ocean Club in Fort Lauderdale, the SoHo condominium-hotel in New York, and a resort in Phoenix.

    Bayrock had its office on the 24th floor of Trump Tower, and its 2007 glossy brochure featured a photo of Trump and Tevfik Arif, a principal Bayrock partner, who served for 17 years in the Soviet government before emigrating to the United States. It called the Trump Organization a “strategic partner,” and listed Trump as their primary reference.

    Edited From:

    https://fortune.com/2017/05/17/donald-trump-russia-2/

    1. PREVARICATIVE EQUIVOCATION

      “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime.”

      – Lavrentiy Beria, Stalin’s Head of Secret Police
      _____________________________________

      Aninny,

      America has experienced the high-criminal overthrow of its duly elected government, and you present aggressive, envelope-pushing, profit-seeking entrepreneurs in the act of creating wealth for communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs) to redistribute as comparable sins?

      BLM engaged in aggressive, envelop-pushing, profit-seeking as a pure act of fraud, profiteering and corruption, and you were all in on that.

      America was designed for people who ambitiously and assertively endeavor and profit; America was not designed for parasites and “can’t do” academics.

      You don’t have a clue whom to celebrate – a hint – your superiors, such as mespo727272, a post-academic, accomplished, performing and overachieving philosopher, advocate and legal counsel.

      America was designed to enjoy duly elected governments which are severely limited and restricted by the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and which exist to facilitate maximal individual freedom and maximal free enterprise.

      America was designed to enjoy 99% free commerce and free enterprise in the free markets of the private sector, in the near-complete absence of “governmental” interference, as free men will do.

      America was designed to create wealth.

      America was designed for the “pursuit of happiness” in freedom and self-reliance.

      America was designed to enjoy religious freedom and to enjoy voluntary charity for the truly needy.

      America was designed for people who become as wealthy as they desire and possibly can.

      You criticism of entrepreneurism and commerce is actionably anti-American and actionably pro-communist, pro enemy.

      You are a loser, incapable of creating wealth, who incoherently and hysterically demands Other People’s Money as if it were your own.

      You’re a ——- joke and a direct and mortal enemy of America and actual Americans.

    2. Again. Doing business in Russia is exactly that business. You offer zero evidence of anything but honest business. You never say exactly what the Relationship between Trump and Bayrock.

      You have a post, but it never makes any statement of fact to suggest anything untoward by President Trump

      You contention becomes, Disney and the NBA are co-conspirators in the genocide happening in China.

  7. “It’s hard to tell what Biden is doing. The real President is the one who controls [his] teleprompter.” ~Elon Musk

    Amen, Brother!

  8. How could there be no reckoning for Hillary? The moral of the story can’t be that if you pay someone to do it, you are not culpable….

    1. Tell Trump, who paid Michael Cohen to break the law for him. Cohen went to jail for it, and Trump wasn’t charged.

  9. A little off topic here. But too good to pass up. The second dumbest person on the planet speaks again.
    ” When we talk about our children, I know for this group, we all believe that when we talk about the children of the community, they are the children of the community.
    Kamala is Joe’s insurance policy.

    1. Amen, Sista!!!

      Now you know and understand why the American Framers provided the power to severely limit and restrict the vote to the States, and why they imposed the “natural born citizen” requirement on the offices of the president and vice president, separately, specifically and in particular.
      _______________________________________________________

      “The lunatics have taken charge of the asylum.”

      – Richard A. Rowland

    2. Paul,

      Can you repeat what Kamala said. It’s not clear because you omitted the concluding quotation mark.

      1. Jeff, sorry. Although I omitted the final quotation mark, I did not fix it because I would think that ,” Kamala is Joe’s insurance policy”, would be apparent not be part of the quote. But here goes. ” When we talk about our children, I know for this group, we all believe that when we talk about the children of the community, they are children of the community”.
        Not quite as good as ” Talking about the significance of passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time, so when you think about it, there is a great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do. There is such a great significance to the passage of time”.
        If we ever go out to dinner, I will take the word salad instead of the soup.

        1. I don’t think context would help that quote! So you think she is a blithering idiot? Worse even than Trump’s infamous word salads?

          I wish we had a president like Turley. I might even vote for him provided he would debate a liberal Constitutional scholar so we could suss out where he stands on many issues because he does too much fence-sitting.

          1. Jeff,
            I am not going to get into name calling. Let’s just say that so far she has been shown to be less than intelligent. Please name one assignment that she has been given that has even a modicum of success. And once again you fall into the ” What about Trumpism” Can’t you just admit that the two examples that I cited are incoherent gobbledygook? As with many of Biden’s inner circle, she was chosen because she checked the right boxes. Not because of competence. I am terrified that this person is a heartbeat away from being the most powerful individual on the planet.
            And speaking of checking boxes. you know that I am a betting man. And betting at it’s core is making predictions. It is easy to bet favorites ,so I won’t predict a Democratic disaster in November. My prediction is that this new W.H. press secretary will be out before the mid terms. She is there because she checks the right boxes, not because of competence. And they have already moved Kirby over from the Pentagon in a ” supporting role”. Wanna BET?

          2. Visuals help a bit here: when she said “they are children of the community,” she gestured to the Children’s Hospital staff she was addressing.

            1. Anon, the staff of the hospital are children?
              And was she pointing to a clock in the other statement? Maybe a calendar?

              1. Of course the staff aren’t children. My impression was that in the second phrase, she was indicating that the staff treat the kids at the hospital as part of their community — that it was an indication of the staff caring about the kids, not just taking care of them as a job. You can watch the video and come to your own conclusion. It wasn’t well worded, but I think it comes across different on video than in print.

                1. Anon,
                  Agreed. But you are being very kind with ” wasn’t well worded” . But if that is the biggest problem she has, not that big of a deal. My fear is that not ” wording things correctly” is far from her biggest foible.

                  1. Paul, I’m not a fan of Harris’s or Biden’s. But I still prefer them to Pence and Trump.

                    I believe that Trump is a con artist and wannabe dictator, and that Pence is a kiss-@ss, who thankfully developed a spine in rejecting Trump’s urging that Pence break his oath to uphold the Constitution by throwing the certification of the EC vote.

                    1. RE: “Paul, I’m not a fan of Harris’s or Biden’s….”We shall see where your ‘lesser of two evils’ team takes us. A political party which chooses to seat an individual a heartbeat away from the Presidency, an individual who had garnered so little interest and support that she was obliged to withdraw BEFORE the primaries, placed priority on complexion and genitalia than confidence and competence. They may regret to learn that they have Trumped their own strategy.

                    2. Anon,
                      Definitely the lessor of two evils here. But I am going to be a little bit selfish here. Was my life and my family’s life better under Trump/ Pence or Biden / Harris?
                      Not even close. I have less disposable income, I don’t feel as safe, the Southern border is a joke, ( I am tired of being lied to that the border is closed) I literally can’t think of ONE THING that Biden/Harris has done to make my life or this country better. Can you? Maybe Infrastructure bill.
                      I am a Conservative ( Big surprise!) but I voted for Bill Clinton twice. The ” indiscretion” notwithstanding, I am proud to say that I voted for him. My life was better than under Bush.
                      My hope is that Trump does not run again. And if he does, I will not vote for him in the primary. Even though I think he is unelectable, I would be forced to vote for him in the general. I don’t think that Biden will even run. And Harris is worse. Sanders, No. Warren, No. Mayor Pete, Absolutely Not.
                      I literally cannot think of think of a Democrat that I would even consider. I don’t like Socialists.

  10. FOX NEWS ALERT McBidenists!!! Trump is NOT the President, BIDEN IS!!. It is he standing in front of the latrine with a shovel, and in front of the fan as well. Durham has his hand on the switch. There is enough conversation across the land, within Democrat ranks, amongst those who would still like to have a job come next year, that the President, the Party, and all they have brought to the table, have become a pariah, from which they seek to be disassociated. I listened to an interview on CNN today during which a spokesperson for the administration was asked, ‘What happened?” The response was nothing more than a tale told by an idiot, for idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Everything except.”We screwed up when we cut the nation’s energy supply right out of the gate and increased the money supply on top of that, months before Putin invaded Ukraine””. Deal with it!! I’m sure that those of you expressing full confidence in this administration have already set aside at least $500K in a safe space, for the little extras, to ease you through the next 4-6 years. It’s the faithful ‘tools’ who walked the streets protesting against voter ID laws and against the purging of voter registration rolls of dead weight to bring them current and up to date who will suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. Not you!!

  11. The Russia hoax made Watergate seem like a lark. Tossing an office for insider information? Tame.

    Let’s see accountability. Will whatever Faustian bargain Hillary Clinton has made to evade justice still hold? Will the media continue to operate as the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party?

    1. No, Karen Honey, the BIG LIE makes Watergate seem like a lark. There is no “Russa hoax”, no matter how many times Tucker says there are.

      Want to talk about “accountability”? What about Trump starting the Big Lie as a salve for his monstrously large eo, ReTrumplicans continuing the Big Lie, despite all proof to the contrary, causing an insurrection, trying to get the GA Secretary of State to “find” votes he didn’t get? These are PROVEN FACTS, not hyperbole you heard on Fox.

        1. That’s the best you can do? Where’s the proof that Trump won? I want to see it. Why did 50 Secretaries of State certify results proving Biden won, including the 26 who were Republicans? Why wouldn’t Pence break the law and reject valid certified voting results, which he had no authority to do? Why haven’t 38 audits and 60+ lawsuits turned up proof? Why did Trump start claiming his glorious victory would be stolen prior to Election Day when polls predicted he would lose? How do you explain that he even could have won when every poll said he’d lose? How do you explain Trump calling Raffensberger and demanding that he “find” 1,780 votes? How can that be anything other than a demand to falsify voting tabulation?

          So, instead of responding to these FACTS, you accuse me of smoking crack. That’s why I cannot find any respect for people like you. And, BTW, Kellyanne Conway says Trump KNOWS he lost, but that his butt-kissing gaggle of syncophants kept encouraging him to claim he was robbed, so he went for it. Now, he can’t back down, all because of his ego, and cowardly Republicans are going along with the Big Lie. But, I’m the one high on crack?

  12. Six years ago the American people could have proven Yuri Bezmenov wrong that Marxists in the United States hadn’t successfully demoralized multiple generations through ideological subversion. There were however indications Yuri was right. When it was discovered Clinton was using a secret server in her personal residence while Secretary of State, it was shrugged off by Democrats and her supporters as an innocent oversight that was inconsequential to her performance as SoS. The FBI director furthered the gaslighting by assuring the public this was of no significance because in his assessment, there was no criminal intent. So despite all evidence to the contrary, there was nothing to see here, just move along. And the demoralized bought it. What would they buy next? The Steele dossier, pee pee tape and all.

    Surely the American people would question the emergence of a “made for Hollywood” political drama just a few months before the general election. Many did, but true to form, the same demoralized people that accepted the server explanation took the bait. While it failed to bring Clinton and the Democrats the victory they desperately wanted, it did establish the reality that Democrats, bureaucratic operatives and their MSM arm had millions of demoralized Americans that would be a reliable army of supporters. And time after time over the last 5 years, despite an abundance of facts and evidence to the contrary, they dug in deeper.

    Sadly, Bezmenov was absolutely correct. The demoralized not only exist, they will not change, at least not until their usefulness has expired and they too suffer under the boot of the tyrants they helped bring to power.

    1. You dont get it. You have to understand their language. Consequently, I offer the following guide

      Liberal Doublespeak guide

      1. Diversity = Differences in appearance

      Diversity is a word that refers to variety. It has an inclusive connotation and in a social context means the inclusion of multiple races and ethnicities – black, white, Asian, Hispanic etc. For Leftists, what the word does not include is any variation in thought. Leftist diversity only extends as far as appearances – it does not tolerate any variety of opinions. Leftism is tyrannical in its demands for conformity to its politically correct left-wing narrative of moral relativism and historical revisionism it does not include any conservative opinions or ideas. In Doublespeak diversity means differences in appearance.

      2. Education = Indoctrination

      Education is the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction especially at a school or university. In a democracy public education is “inclusive, both in its treatment of students and in that enfranchisement for the government of public education is as broad as for government generally. It is often organized and operated to be a deliberate model of the civil community in which it functions.” – Wikipedia

      Education in America has been commandeered by left-wing liberals and is now a vehicle for indoctrinating American youth from K-12 and throughout college. Conservative voices are no longer welcome in education. What was once a traditional American education of core subjects and pride in American democratic ideals has been transformed into an echo chamber of Leftist propaganda promoting globalism, socialism, American self-loathing, political correctness, moral relativism, and historical revisionism. In Doublespeak education means Leftist indoctrination.

      3. Freedom of speech = Approved speech

      Freedom of speech is the foundation for democracy. Without freedom of speech there is no other freedom which is why tyrants always eliminate freedom of speech first. Leftists in America are determined to eliminate freedom of speech by enforcing their own code of political correctness which labels any opposing speech as hate speech. Speakers with conservative points of view are disinvited or intimidated through organized boycotts and violent protests. It is unAmerican to disallow the expression of opposing views but Leftists are tyrannical in their demand for conformity to their approved rhetoric. In Doublespeak freedom of speech means freedom of approved speech.

      4. Tolerance = Intolerance

      The word tolerance has an inclusive connotation and is commonly understood to mean the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or
      behavior that one does not necessarily agree with. Synonyms for tolerance include acceptance, open-mindedness, forbearance. In Doublespeak tolerance is synonymous with intolerance – the opposite of tolerance. It is exclusively awarded to those who LOOK differently and withheld from those who THINK differently. Leftists tolerate differences in race, gender, ethnicity, and socio-economic status but are extremely intolerant of differences of opinion.

      1. You dont get it. You have to understand their language.

        LOL! Sure I do, George. Your guide merely expands on my comment. Good timing. Thanks

      2. Wait.

        A moment, please, to allow us to consult Big Brother who presides over the Thoughtpol which may decide to submit your screed to the Memory Hole causing you to become an Unperson after considering your dubious presentation of Doublespeak as reformulated Newspeak compelling clarification through an exercise of Doublethink.

        I think.

    2. Olly writes:

      “The demoralized not only exist, they will not change, at least not until their usefulness has expired and they too suffer under the boot of the tyrants they helped bring to power.”

      I’m looking forward to the movie!

  13. You’ve officially become a joke, Turley–i.e.: “he most successful disinformation campaign in American political history with both the Steele dossier and the Alfa bank claims.” I’ve never seen the “Steele dossier”, which was NOT the impetus for the investigation into Russia helping Trump cheat (despite what Fox News hosts claim), and I don’t know anything about the “Alfa bank claims”. What I DO know about is the Big Lie, which continues to this day, despite 38 audits of the 2020 ballots, 60 + lawsuits and multiple investigations that prove the falsity of the Big Lie. Then, there’s Giuliani who has been suspended for trying to litigate the Big Lie. How on earth can the Big Lie be a less-successful disinformation campaign than the other two items? The Big Lie was started BEFORE Election Day when polls were showing Trump would lose. Because his ego couldn’t handle rejection, he started claiming that his grandiose “landslide victory” was being stolen by a “rigged election”. He never backed down and has brought in other ReTrumplicans who likewise have nothing to offer voters than stirring the culture wars and going along with the Big Lie.

    How long, Turley, before Fox ups the ante enough to get you to publicly buy into the Big Lie? What will your price tag be for supporting the lie that Trump really won, when you know he didn’t? It better come soon because you’ve already lost so much credibility. The longer you ignore the important political stories, like ReTrumplicans’ attacks on democracy itself*, and re-hash the past, the less value your buying into the Big Lie will have.

    *ReTrumplicans are setting the stage for the REAL coup in America by kicking Democrats off of local election boards, by appointing or electing supporters of the Big Lie, who actually WOULD “find” nonexistent votes or simply discard Democratic votes, by gerrymandering, by making it harder for probable Democrats to vote, by limiting polling locations and by “purging” voter rolls without any valid reason.

    1. So Natacha admits that she’s never seen the Steele Dossier or the Alfa Bank claims and she somehow thinks we should consider her opinions. So says there was no such thing as RussiaGate or the Alfa Bank hoax but she has never taken the time to explore either one to determine if her knowledge is based on any facts. It’s obvious that she has a little screen that won’t let her even look at anything that might disrupt her preconceived notions about what is or is not real. If it’s real in her mind thats enough. It’s no different than anti evolutionist thinking that continues regardless of the available evidence. Then she quickly changes the subject to the “Big Lie”. It’s clear that she refuses an education in both instances.

      1. The only hoax I know of is an arrogant, narcissistic fat person who claims to be an “excellent physical specimen” and “very stable genius” who couldn’t even successfully run multiple companies despite being financed and supported by his father well into his forties, who took 6 business bankruptcies, but managed to convince gullible people that he was a boy-wonder self-made billionaire. All lies. They believed that because he was so successful in business that he could run the USA. But he’s deeply in debt and can’t borrow from US banks due to defaulting on loans and getting sued thousands of times for refusing to pay his valid debts, which is why he was turning to Russia for financing. It is a proven fact that his campaign colluded with Russian hackers to spread lies directed by his campaign to districts where such lies were sufficient to turn the Electoral College in his favor despite losing the popular vote. When he lost in 2016, Trump claimed that illegal Mexicans voted for Hillary and that’s why she won the popular vote.

        No, I don’t waste my time considering the lies about a nonexistent “RussiaGate” scandal because the source is alt-right media, and these people do is lie to the gullibles and make up facts. We have the Mueller Report that is based on actual EVIDENCE, like sworn testimony and validated documents. I don’t care about any alleged scandals involving HIllary Clinton who has been attacked and criticized because she DID beat Trump in 2016 in the popular vote. She’s been accused of everything including child pornography, pedophilia and even cannibalism. And, the disciples sop it up. So, no, I don’t need any “education” from your sources.

        When you describe someone who is stuck on preconceived notions and who is immune to the truth, you are describing Trump fans. He says he won a “landslide victory”, even though every vote count, re-count, 38 forensic audits, certification by 50 Secretaries of State and 60+ lawsuits prove this is a lie. He was caught trying to get the GA Secretary of State to falsify voting records. Still, the disciples are undeterred in their belief that he really not only won, but won by “a lot”, just because he says so. My “education” comes from seeing so many lies coming from alt-right media that I don’t need to waste time considering any more.

        1. Natacha: Great synopsis of Trump’s sordid legacy. It would take pages for me to say what you have said in half a page. Don’t give up because some think you are just spreading the “Big Lie”. The truth will ultimately prevail.

          1. RE: “Great synopsis of Trump’s sordid legacy.” One sordid legacy down, another sordid legacy unfolding and in the making.. It is often wise to let sleeping dogs lie, but ya’ll can’t resist turning the earth. You thus make preparation for another seasons planting. The seeds will be sown in a fallow field come November. We will then see what new crop emerges.

          2. Dennis says:

            “Don’t give up because some think you are just spreading the “Big Lie”. The truth will ultimately prevail.”

            I believe that too. Turley and Fox News are on a collision course. As much as his job depends upon it, Turley will not endorse the Big Lie though he shamefully has never condemned it. But in Trump world, you are either with them or against them. In order to sustain a lie, you must demand UNANIMITY. But Turley’s conscience will not allow him to state that the election was stolen. This is why he is a NeverTrumper. He WILL accept as legitimate a criminal prosecution of Trump and will NOT disavow a jury’s guilty verdict if it comes to that. His defense of the rule of law and not impugning a “Deep State” will enrage Turley’s followers. Just wait!

            In the meantime, my guess is that Turley will try to maintain his distance from the Big Liars at Fox until he is able to plug his forthcoming book during his infrequent Fox appearances then quietly depart.

          3. Thank you Dennis. If you are a patriot and love America, you HAVE to push back because it’s not just control of Congress and the US Presidency at stake, but American democracy itself. Republicans, inspired by Trump, are trying to rig 2024 so if he runs and loses again, they can just throw out votes or award them to Trump. They tried it in 2020, appointing fake slates of Trump “electors” who tried to cast Electoral College votes for Trump contrary to the actual vote count and based on nothing but the Big Lie. That and Trump’s call to Raffensberger are clear bellwethers for what’s to come. In addition to gerrymandering and making it harder to vote, they’re replacing Democrats on local election boards that are in charge of counting votes and challenging votes. They appoint judges who refuse to honor stare decisis, so that court decisions founded on Constitutional principles of personal liberty and individual freedom can now be decided by religious zealots on the state level. So, essentially, your Constitutional right to marriage equality, abortion, contraception, consensual sex between adults and interracial marriage will depend on your address. They’re trying to dictate the content of history to be taught to school children. Every day on Fox they attack Biden for everything from bacterial contamination of Similac baby formula to the war in Ukraine. Problem is, there is a staunch group of blind disciples who can’t think for themselves who believe this garbage.

            1. RE:””””Problem is,……………” Your problem is that there’s a staunch group of Independent voters who CAN think for themselves and clearly see through the Kool-Aid you’ve been feeding the very cohort of blind disciples who can’t think for themselves and will swallow your swill. Nothing more than a pied piper leading a band of lemmings over the cliff. A conspiracy theorist concocting a scenario of one’s own making not unlike what you accuse the opposition of doing. Fact: Biden shit-canned the petroleum industry on day one, crippled our energy supply of natural gas, gasoline, diesel and petroleum derivatives used in industry to produce a host of other commercial products, hence increasing their costs, and has sent us begging across the world for crude. Fact: Biden is now touting this as the hardship the country has to experience as it transitions away from fossil fuels without any backup transition plan which, during his campaign, he stated would be necessary to achieve that goal. Fact: Biden’s administration has played havoc with the money supply which has had its own consequences, continues to do so with its military aid to Ukraine, and which would have been worse if Build Back Better hadn’t failed. Fact: All this occurred LONG BEFORE February 2022 and Putin’s War which the administration keeps pushing in a variety of ways to persuade the low information citizenry that it wasn’t the administration’s incompetence that was responsible for their plight. How do Biden and his minions know that they play this game and get away with it. As Harry Reid might have put it…..””They won, didn’t they??””

              1. Here are the facts from POLITIFACT:

                The facts on U.S. oil production

                There are many factors at play in the steady climb in gas prices since Biden took office, including increased demand after pandemic lockdowns ended, inflation and, now, the war in Ukraine. But lower oil production in the U.S. isn’t one of them.

                America produced 11.185 million barrels of crude oil per day in 2021, compared with 11.283 million a year earlier under Trump. The amount produced in Biden’s first year exceeds the average daily amount produced under Trump from 2017 to 2018, according to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

                Biden did issue an executive order his first month in office that paused new oil and gas lease sales on government land pending a review, but that order was struck down by a federal judge in June.

                Despite claims to the contrary, oil production was unphased in the U.S. following the order. And cancellation of the Keystone Pipeline didn’t impact production levels, as many Biden critics have alleged. In addition, Biden has surpassed Trump in issuing drilling permits on public land, the Washington Post reported in January.

                Now, I know you are immune to facts and will believe the slop you heard from alt-right news, but they don’t get their own version of facts.

                  1. Did you even read this piece, which confirms what I have been saying: during the excessively-long pandemic, made worse than it had to be by Trump’s lying about the seriousness and his incompetence, there was a glut of oil because people weren’t driving to work, school buses weren’t running and people weren’t taking vacations. When Biden turned this around, production has lagged behind supply, which kicks in the rule of supply and demand. Oil companies are slowly ramping up production because they are enjoying record profits and are using the money for stock buy-backs. Biden has done a wonderful job of turning things around, but now there’s the war Putin started with Ukraine and sanctions. Biden has not cut back supply, and when Tucker and Hannity tell you he has, they are lying.

                    1. I bet you & Mark Levin & Hannity are just so Proud seeing those Ukraine Nazis giving the Nazi Salute as they surrendered in Mass to the Russians.

                      What the Ph’k is wrong with you American Hating Trash supporting Nazis in Ukraine & harming Americans economical.

                      Most every American on SSI, Working People & Business owners hate you people & your Build Back Better Program.

                      They want you people to “Put It Back Like It Was” & for you Demonic Commie/Nazis to get the Hell out of here.

                    2. “Biden has not cut back supply . . .”

                      Then why is he begging dictatorial countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Venezuela for oil?

                    3. RE: “Biden has not cut back supply…..” What’s lacking in her response above, in addition to her relentless rage against Trump which contaminates everything she comments on is what you have cited adding the fact that refining capacity has been reduced as a result of closures due to the negative impact of the pandemic, So rather than maintain the status quo which provided the US and Canada with a glut of oil which could have been exported to put a dent the Russian market, we are tapping into our own strategic reserves and going around the world begging for crude and pleasing our adversaries who now know that they have this President by his short hairs. , This plus the inflationary pressures on prices have given the industry’s ‘Ferengi’ the incentive to demand that production be held in check and not increased. Profit before patriotism. Definitely NOT a 1941 mindset.

                  1. The Keystone pipeline wouldn’t be up and running right now even if Trump could have cheated his way back into office a second time.

                    1. RE:””””The Keystone pipeline wouldn’t be up and running right now even if Trump could have cheated his way back into office a second time.”””” The best thing you haters could possibly do to make Trump go away is to keep him out of your conversations. Unfortunately, your paranoia about his potential for success in 2024 runs so deep that you can’t possibly do so. You likely have the grateful appreciation of his base. Keep selling your snake oil, and his side will continue in kind. On November 9th we shall see who made a profit. In the mean time, there are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy:
                      ‘https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/03/04/why-approving-keystone-xl-was-a-no-brainer/?sh=17f09119731b; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-13/gasoline-diesel-jet-fuel-refining-capacity-is-too-low-in-the-us-to-meet-demand;

                1. “. . . including increased demand after pandemic lockdowns ended . . .”

                  You mean the “demand” that returned to the pre-pandemic lockdowns — when gas was some $2.30/gl?

                  “inflation”

                  Which the Left, in large part, created. And which they are now blaming for skyrocketing fuel prices. There’s nothing like killing your parents, then whining that you’re an orphan.

                  In addition, that circular argument is: Blame inflation for high fuel prices. Blame high fuel prices for inflation.

                  Prices are *forward* looking, not backward looking. The fact is that the Green zealots have *intentionally” kneecapped the fuel industry. And they openly admit doing so.

              2. To rationalize skyrocketing fuel prices, the administration has taken a spaghetti approach: Throw a bowl of stale spaghetti against the wall. Hope something sticks.

                Nothing stuck.

                So now the Green zealots are admitting the obvious — that they are using the government’s police powers to force an “incredible transition.” They, the Enlightened Ones, are in command of the economy. Their desire is to destroy the fossil fuel industry, and to replace it with something that does not exist. What decent people see as a bug, they see as a feature.

                Will there be pain and suffering? You’re already experiencing it. Will there be shortages and astronomical prices? Yes — by design. Will you have to forgo new clothes, a vacation, camp for your kids — just to pay for the insane fuel prices? That, too, is part of their plan. Will you have to submit, surrender, sacrifice? *That* is their end game. Your choices, your desires, your comfort and happiness are irrelevant. They control you.

                Command economies always fail. What’s different this time is that that failure is regarded as “success.”

              1. Sorry Anomaly, I left you out.

                “A retard, a lunatic, a blowhard, and *an idiot with a bag on his head* walk into a bar…”

                Feel better now?

          1. But Ray, Orange Man Bad, makes mean tweets about the pedos & their friends & they’re loving 15% + inflation moving up.

            I’m almost positive they love people like Natacha for the doubling of prices & the deadly/injurious mRNA death/clot shots.

            1. Oky1,

              Yes, like you I wish for the good old days when the worst things that we had to worry about on any given day were;
              – a mean tweet
              – a mean nickname
              – two scoops of ice cream!!

              Let’s go Brandon!

      2. TiT lets slip:

        “It’s no different than anti-evolutionist thinking that continues regardless of the available evidence.”

        Say what? Evidence?

    2. Just to quote from the inspector general’s report: “We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team’s receipt of Steele’s election reporting on September 19, 2016 played a central and essential role in the FBI’s and Department’s decision to seek the FISA order. ” It could technically not be the impetus for the investigation, but the FBI relied on it to justify the surveilance.

      https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

  14. For Decades Trump Laundered Russian Money

    For more than three decades, at least 13 people with known or alleged links to the Russian Mafia held the deeds to, lived in or ran criminal operations out of Trump Tower in New York or other Trump properties. Many of them used Trump-branded real estate to launder vast amounts of money by buying multimillion-dollar condos through anonymous shell companies. Bayrock Group, a real estate development company that was based in Trump Tower had ties to the Kremlin, came up with a new business model to franchise Trump condos after he lost billions of dollars in his Atlantic City casino developments, and helped make him rich again.

    Yet Trump’s relationship with the Russian underworld, a de facto state actor, has barely surfaced in the uproar surrounding Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign. That oversight may be explained in part by journalist Michael Kinsley’s long-held maxim: The real scandal isn’t what’s illegal; it’s what is legal.

    Where Americans cracked down on the Italian American Mafia, Vladimir Putin dealt with the Russian mob very differently. Putin co-opted it. He made it an integral part of his Mafia state. Russian gangsters became, in effect, Putin’s enforcers. They had long and deep relationships. According to a tape recording made by former Russian agent Alexander Litvinenko a year before he was fatally poisoned in London, Putin had close ties to Semion Mogilevich, a top mobster, that dated to the early 1990s.

    Edited From:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trumps-businesses-are-full-of-dirty-russian-money-the-scandal-is-thats-legal/2019/03/29/11b812da-5171-11e9-88a1-ed346f0ec94f_story.html
    ……………………………………………….

    This notion that Hillary Clinton fabricated the so-called ‘Russian hoax’ is insultingly stupid. And only the stupidest Trumpers buy into such nonsense.

    1. Clinton paid for both the Steele dosier and the ALPHA bank scam. Then peddled them to the FBI, CIA and friendly media.

      You tinfoil hat conspiricy is meaningless. Unless you are claiming doing business is disqualifying.

    2. According to Anonymous any corporation doing business with Russia must be involved with Russian dirty money. She is correct because Russia is controlled by about one hundred oligarchs. However she fails to point out that many American business are involved with dirty Russian oligarchs. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-companies-business-koch-patreon-mcdonalds-cbs-news-explains/. Let us not forget that in the past we have purchased nine percent of our oil from dirty Russian oligarchs. She lays the guilt at the feet of Trump without the understanding that all Russian money is dirty. What would her life be without her boogeyman. A little to much gnashing of teeth Anonymous. https://therealdeal.com/2022/03/02/heres-where-wealthy-russians-own-trophy-real-estate-in-the-us/. Be educated Anonymous.

      1. TIT, why do you keep referring to multiple Anonymous commenters are “she”?

        The Anonymous who posted the 2:43 PM comment used to post as Seth Warner (and I gather before that, he posted as Peter Hill). Is this just a trans insult on your end, combined with a disinterest in distinguishing among the multiple people who sometimes post anonymously, including S. Meyer?

        1. Thinkthrough is The Blog Stooge, an obnoxious redneck paid to keep these threads safe from liberals.

          1. REGARDING ABOVE

            Said troll is an obnoxious limped wristed queen preening for attention when his gay colleagues block him on Grindr

            Bwahahahahahaaha

    3. Well Anonymous, The New York Times, The Washington Post and Politico Magazine have all admitted that the RussiaGate story was a hoax paid for by the Clinton campaign. Yet somehow you persist. In response to your comments I have linked to their admissions many times in the past. Even these news outlets admitting that they got it wrong but you continue. I understand. You are so mentally invested that your life would never be the same if you even considered that things might be different than what you think they are.

      1. White Americans are waiting for an apology considering Leftist Prog Trash besmirch them for the sins of Whites centuries ago.

    4. For decades Hillary Clinton, Adam Schiff, many Democrats in high places, took large funds of money from Ed Buck.

      “Ed Buck, once a prominent Democratic donor, sentenced to 30 years in prison”

      (CNN) Democratic donor Ed Buck, who in 2021 was convicted by a federal jury of nine felonies, including giving methamphetamine to two men who died at his West Hollywood apartment after being injected with the drug, has been sentenced to 30 years in prison, a spokesperson for the United States Attorney’s Office Central District of California said Thursday.

      Buck, 67, was sentenced to 360 months, said spokesperson Ciaran McEvoy.
      Buck was found guilty in 2021 of two counts of distribution of methamphetamine resulting in death, four counts of distribution of methamphetamine, one count of maintaining a drug-involved premises and two counts of enticement to travel in interstate commerce for prostitution.

      Gemmel Moore, 26, died of an overdose in July 2017 and Timothy Dean, 55, died in January 2019.
      “It was a tremendous honor to be able to vindicate the rights of the victims in the case,” Assistant US Attorney Chelsea Norell said at the time of Buck’s conviction.

      https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/us/ed-buck-sentenced-30-years-federal-charges/index.html

      ……………………………………

      So go ahead and tell us how you personally benefited from your dealings with Los Angeles West Hollywood’s famous meth dealer, Ed Buck.

      Yes, Hillary Clinton preyed on Donald Trump to kill his Presidency just like Ed Buck preyed on gay black men to kill them after using them, a very Democrat trait

  15. The premiere question that remains is, why didn’t Hillary Clinton wait for the conclusion of the FBI before she sent the story to the groveling press? It is because she knew that the FBI would not support her accusations. Mook said that they didn’t trust the FBI when the FBI had been in her corner all along. In one aspect he was correct. She knew that the FBI would not corroborate her story and would find it to be without foundation. None of it mattered when she was trying to convince the nation that Trump was a Russian spy. I understand. When your in for an once of b.s. you might as well be in for a pound of b.s. Once you get used to the stench it’s not so bad. Ive been to small town rodeo rinks where the smell was much closer to a rose.

  16. So the judge would not allow any statements by Hillary to be submitted as evidence. So why then did he allow the Mook testimony concerning Hillary Clintons approval of releasing the Alfa Bank narrative to the press? The Judge understood that he had been backed into a corner because if he disallowed Mook’s testimony his prejudice toward the prosecution would become more obvious. Once backed into a corner the judge was not going to allow a mistrial. At long last, sleazy dealing has been exposed.

      1. Anonymous, I guess Robie Monk didn’t get the message about the peripheral stuff about Hillary Clinton. Again I ask, why didn’t the judge disallow the Mook testimony if it was of no value to the proceedings? Why didn’t the judge immediately halt The question by the prosecution if he believed it to be on the periphery and of no importance? I see that you and the judge are not of the same mindset as to the value of testimony concerning Hilary Clinton. I expected nothing less.

        1. “why didn’t the judge disallow the Mook testimony if it was of no value to the proceedings?”

          No one claimed that Mook’s testimony has “no value.”

          The issue is that DeFilippis asked Mook to read out loud a tweet from Clinton that Judge Cooper had already ruled should not be read aloud in part, and Mook did this before Cooper caught that DeFilippis was asking Mook to do something contrary to his earlier ruling. That’s not Mook’s own testimony.

          And Judge Cooper has already ruled in favor of striking specific text from both the transcript and the tweet that the jury can inspect later: https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/05/22/that-clinton-tweet-could-lead-to-a-mistrial-and-certainly-reversal-on-appeal/

          I doubt you care about your mistake here OR that you care about the judge’s subsequent action. You’re a troll with a false story you want to tell about the tweet, and you couldn’t care less about the judge’s actual rulings.

          1. It is official. Biden’s polling numbers are worse than Trump’s ever, and this despite the liberal discredited news media smoke Hunter Biden’s crack pipe 25/8

  17. I thought that the following was required on all political messaging. While it is missing in the Alfa Bank and Steele Anything But Dossier: “I’m Hilary Clinton and I approve this message.”

  18. As a computer networks professional, I can say that there was nothing legitimate in what Sussman & Joffe were doing. Internet allows untraceable communication between anybody in the US and any competent foreign intelligence service.

    Nobody with any technical experience would think that somebody might use a server in his business (the server being controlled by a system administrator, not by the business owner), which would communicate to a server in London, owned by a bank operating in Russia, which would somehow communicate to GRU or SVR

    It is as stupid as other ‘Russian traces’ in Spygate: Russian-made Yota phone, Facebook & Twitter ads purchased with rubles, user name “Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky” etc. This is stuff from jokes.

    1. “ user name “Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky” etc. This is stuff from jokes.”

      Hang around here a bit and you will see the Leftist Prog trash use dozens of fake names to peddle their lies…that is all they have to offer for Americans…thuggery

  19. iowan2 says:
    “How did Robert Mueller and Andrew Weissmann spend 2 years investigating Trump-Russia; with a team of 19 lawyers, $40 million in resources, 40 FBI agents, 2,800 subpoenas, 500 search warrants and 500 witnesses; and not find out that Hillary Clinton created the hoax they were investigating?”

    Contestant #1 says:
    “I’ll take block number one Bob for the game: They weren’t looking for her and did not want to find her”!

    1. Margot: didn’t happen. Trump and his cronies DID NOT COOPERATE, would not produce documents, would not sit for depositions, and Giuliani drafted Trump’s responses to Interrogatories and Requests for Production that were nonresponsive and evasive. They refused to amend or supplement. And, Hillary Clinton did not “create any hoax”. TRUMP CHEATED AND DIDN’T COOPERATE. He’s be in jail now if the full facts had been disclosed. That is the truth.

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