Below is my column on recent effort to boycott states over their abortion laws, a growing push for states to punish other states with measures like travel bans. While boycotts are an important expression of free speech by citizens, it raises more difficult questions when done by states seeking to coerce other states. It can create a morass of boycotts and tit-for-tat measures. This column suggests a way to end the practice through a simple deterrent measure based on Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty. It would be to the benefit of all states (and our federalism system as a whole) to remove state-to-state boycotts from the political arena.
Here is the column:
“An attack on one is an attack on all.” That reference to Article 5 of the NATO treaty is a virtual mantra in Washington these days as “the bedrock of peace and security in Europe for over half a century.” But the benefits of such deterrence should not be lost on another group under increasing threat for their political alliances: America’s red states.
From California to Illinois, legislators are moving to boycott any state contracts with businesses in states with anti-LGBTQ legislation or restrictive abortion laws. At the same time, many Democratic leaders are pressuring companies to boycott red states too.
This past week, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) called upon Hollywood production companies to stop filming in states such as Georgia or Oklahoma with strict anti-abortion laws. In Georgia, Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams has warned that companies will cut off ties with such states, including her own, if they do not change their laws. (Abrams previously was criticized by conservatives for fueling the boycott of her own state which led to the withdrawal of the All-Star Game from Atlanta over election reform laws.)
Such campaigns have succeeded, particularly with private companies. Indeed, in both restricting speech and boycotting states, the left has found greater success with private companies than with voters in pushing their agenda. The New York Times warned pro-life states that they risk their “competitive edge” in the market if they do not change their laws to conform with blue-state views.
The boycott threats have been growing since 2016, when North Carolina was targeted for passing a bill limiting bathroom access by biological gender.
The point of these campaigns is to pressure state officials to ignore the will of a majority of their citizens and pass laws to appeal to corporations and other states in a competitive market. Such boycotts by private citizens or groups are an important form of political speech; various state laws barring state contracts with those who support boycotts of Israel, for example, have been struck down as unconstitutional, although an appellate court recently upheld an Arkansas law.
However, states or companies engaging in such boycotts is a different matter. Many consumers do not want companies like Disney to engage in political debates over issues like transgender rights. One poll showed 67 percent opposed corporate opposition to an “anti-grooming” law, a view that appears to be impacting Disney. Consumers can vote with their pocketbooks in the “go woke, go broke” movement.
For Democratic leaders like California Attorney General Rob Bonta, official boycotts on travel are simply a case of states acting like consumers and “aligning our dollars with our values.” However, it is more than that. It is speaking as a state to isolate and punish states with opposing views on abortion, transgender rights, gun rights and other policies. In a system based on federalism principles, we embraced the model of allowing each state to reach its own conclusions on divisive questions. The result can be consensus around moderate positions that escape both parties, which often are driven by the extremes on issues like abortion.
Take this week’s vote in Kansas, which surprised many by overwhelmingly supporting the preservation of abortion rights. Although many Democrats demand unrestricted abortion rights and many Republicans demand total bans, a Harvard-Harris poll shows 72 percent of Americans would allow abortion only until the 15th week of pregnancy or a more restrictive limit. When states try to coerce other states to yield to their demands on such issues, they hinder state experimentation and expression.
The result is increasingly bizarre. California college sports teams are barred from spending money to travel to any state on the liberal “naughty list” — a problem when you are USC and UCLA and just moved from the Pac 12 to the Big Ten. They now face raising private funds to be able to play in blacklisted states.
There is a way to end this madness. It is an Article 5-like alliance.
While this would ideally be an agreement by all states, red states should pass legislation barring state business or travel with any state that engages in boycotts. The key would be that the agreement must stand on principle, allow no exceptions, and trigger immediate reciprocity: A travel ban on, say, Nebraska would result in a reciprocal ban not just from Nebraska but from every state in the alliance.
In this way, when a state like California targets a state like Utah, it will shoot itself with roughly half of the country. Eventually the administrative and competitive costs of such measures would become prohibitive.
California’s enormous economy has given leaders like Gov. Newsom a sense of impunity in targeting other states. There are now 17 states on California’s banned list under a 2016 law that automatically adds states which discriminate against or remove protections for people on the basis of sex, gender identity or sexual orientation. Imagine if those 17 states had automatic reciprocity laws — add any one of us to a boycott list, and you will be boycotted back by all.
Newsom is running ads in Florida and Texas, telling their residents that “freedom is under attack in your state” — based on a majority of voters there reaching opposing conclusions on controversial issues — and urging Floridians and Texans to move to California. They appear to have two options in Newsom’s mind: Move to California or adopt its positions, so democracy will be safe from itself.
Evan Low, a California lawmaker who authored that state’s ban, put it simply: “The current culture war is not a game.” Indeed — which is why we should look to “the most successful military alliance in history” to end reckless incursions by neighboring states.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. Follow him on Twitter @JonathanTurley.
Are these the norms we were promised the Biden WH would bring back?
Using the FBI to terrorize Dems opponents? Raids? Safes broken into? People placed in handcuffs and leg irons?
Did not see that happen to Eric Holder. Did not see that happen to Hillary.
The double standard is on display for all to see.
Is this the day America became a third world banana republic?
Who was terrorized?
Who was placed in handcuffs and leg irons?
Until we can see the warrant — and better, the warrant application — we don’t know what they were searching for and what the probable cause was.
the warrant and accompanying affidavits have been classified. Never to see the much needed disinfecting action of sunshine
How do you know that they’ve been classified?
You are uninformed. Peter Navarro was arrested as he was boarding a plane and they shackled him in leg irons — the full humiliation, intimidation thuggery of the Biden regime. FBI has used unnecessary excessive force like battering rams to break down people’s doors. Anyone actively opposing the “regime” is a target now. Police state tactics are regularly being used by the Biden Gestapo. It’s a frightening time to be dissident/deplorable being hunted by your own government. Just wait until the unleash 87,000 new IRS agents on us.
Always remember the date. 8/8/22, the day Progressives turned America into a Banana Republic.
Wen Bars,
I have noted “banana republic” and “FBI” are trending.
Raise your hand if you live in America and fear the Feds like me. Like this comment or reply with +1 anonymously
a day that will live in infamy
Police leaving policing by the 10’s thousands and 87,000 new IRS agents. I feel safer already. Check out the Dept of Education budget for guns and ammo. Yep way safe now.
People who haven’t been raided
Hillary Clinton
Jeffrey Epstein’s clients
Hunter Biden
Ray Epps
John & Tony Podesta
Perkins Coie
Marc Elias
Andrew McCabe
Larry Nassar
DC pipe bomber
Awan Brothers
Antifa
BLM
Sandy Berger
Bill Clinton
Eric Swalwell
Diana Feinstein
Contractors using NSA database
And the additional 87,000 IRS Agents will be used to target and harass all the deplorables.
They’re intended to go after wealthy tax cheats.
You object to that?
Bahahahhahaha….keep on believing…they depend on ignorant voters who believe the propaganda they spew out.
Sinema signed the recent spending bill because her donors got somewhere around $14Billion in tax benfits. She made sure that those running the hedge fund were taxed capital gains rather than the higher personal income tax. Many of them are on salary just like many on this blog, the only difference being they are making in the tens of millions.
Manchin’s wife gets to control $1Billion.
I get to buy a new Tesla with a $7,500 deduction.
No. The IRS is there to bring money to the government and all those that live off the government. That money is coming from the people either directly or indirectly..
The standard of living for most Americans, not the Bidens or those running the country will fall. Our children and their children will pay.
Anonymous,just go back to sleep.
Sure. go after the people that have lawyers and CPA’s do their taxes.
No the most cheating is done by those making less then $200K That is the most effiecent and easy. Those people dont have people needing to defend their license to practice.
That is correct. They will look into every conservative organization including religious organizations that oppose the left.
They will be used to ENFORCE current tax law. Are you against enforcing the law?
I thought conservatives and republicans were all about law and order. Are you saying we shouldn’t be enforcing current tax laws?
Of course they will, We do not need the IRS agents that we already have to deal with 98% of tax revenue.
Democrats are actively looking to punish small business,
This is an incredibly stupid move.
“Trump is raising hell, accusing Dems of “weaponizing” DOJ for political purposes. This goes without saying, but here’s a reminder: Trump was the king of politicizing DOJ during his presidency. Here’s a list of 25 political opponents that he publicly said should be investigated. …”
https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1556982869695897602
A very reasonable list and notably not one SWAT team broke down their doors.
And yet that did not happen.
But when Biden or the Whitehouse says they want an investigation of parents for criticizing their school boards – the AG jumps and asks how high ?
Adam Schiff.
Future Speaker McCarthy notifed AG Garland to preserve documents and clear his calandar.
There will be hearings.
Regardless, this is stupid.
Does the left really want to normalize this kind of conduct ?
These nit wits impeached Trump for merely ASKING for a well predicated request to investigate a political opponent.
We are constantly told that Trump is a threat to democracy.
Yet, every which way we turn the threat to democracy, to the rule of law is entirely from the left.
But hey, please keep this nonsense up.
Turn about is fair play.
Parents who show up at school board meetings are domestic terrorist. The dims are at war with middle America.
When you threaten the family of a school board member then, yes you are a domestic terrorist.
If you burn someone’s business down during a riot, what does that make you?
A democrat
Trump derangement syndrome on steroids.
These are very dark times for our country. God bless America.
Just a little curious. I ask all Trump opponents if it is true that he was under investigation and attack a year before the election, all 4 years he held office and for the 2 years he has been out of office?.?
Can you name any other President that has endured such abuse ???
Bill Clinton.
Hahhahahhahhahhahhaha….The media was in love with him, just like they are with Obama. Next??
Wen Bars:
As a U.S. sitting president, Clinton lied under oath for all to see. Nixon, as a sitting president, was caught red-handed for his role in Watergate. For @ six years now, the pursuit to find Trump criminally liable for something, -ANYTHING,- has left no stone unturned.
Let me refresh some memories with this (as one):
“Regardless of the Reagan-era tradition, it was already highly unlikely that [Eric] Holder would have faced prosecution. The criminal charge refers the dispute to a District of Columbia U.S. attorney, who was appointed by Obama and serves under Holder, meaning he’s not likely to seek action.” (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eric-holder-contempt-charge-prosecution_n_1638420)
We will never know what sieve-filtering disappearance/spoliation of existent Obama administration internal communications MAY or MAY NOT have occurred-about this and other concerns…(some persons seemed to have developed “chipmunk cheeks”), but it is my understanding that some documents were finally released several months later-ON midterm Election Day (2014).
Playing politics with investigations and prosecutions is nothing new. Trump is no hero to me (but neither is he the despicable character media/Democrats would have you believe) and I have no problem with a Trump prosecution if he did something criminal. I DO have a problem with selective/political prosecutions. It is not about “whataboutism.” As I have previously said, it’s about what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
The Clinton Klan, don’t you just love em.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
– Edmund Burke, 1770
George: Nice.
George….Doesn’t “Burma Shave” belong at the end of that quote? 🙂
or, I should say, “Myanmar”…….
Jonathan: Like many in this chatroom I was shocked by the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago today. This is the first time this has been done. None of us are safe under the Biden deep state regime. Coincidentally, today NY Times reporter Maggie Haberman released alleged photos of two toilets used by Trump–one in the WH showing torn docs in the bowl. We have come to expect this kind of trash from the Times. These photos were released as Haberman is promoting her new trash book “Confidence Man: the Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America”. Haberman and the Times will stop at nothing in their attempt to smear our President. No doubt the FBI will be searching all the toilets at Mar-a-Lago. Part of conspiracy between the NY Times and the FBI!
Frankly, I think the whole toilet thing is just fake news. Remember when our President complained, even before he got into the WH, about toilets that didn’t flush properly.: “Ten times, right 10 times to flush a toilet when it should take only one flush”. He was on to something but he didn’t follow up. I think the plotters in the Democrat Party did pay attention. I think the Dems hired “plumbers” to go into the WH late at night and made the toilets impossible to flush on the first try. I know something about toilets. I have 5 in my house and they all fully flush the first time. So someone fooled with the WH toilets. It’s the only explanation.
Now, I know, you probably think I’m full of it. But I have been contacted by Alex Jones’ people. They want me to appear on Alex’s next podcast to explain my theory. If anyone can get to the bottom of this left-wing conspiracy to tarnish the image of our President it’s Alex! Stay tuned.
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
– Declaration of Independence, 1776
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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“People on the 7th floor to include Director are fired up about this [Trump] server.”
– Bill Priestap
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The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history. The co-conspirators are:
Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,
Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,
Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,
Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,
Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,
Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,
Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney et al.
“The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history.”
It is an ongoing conspiracy that seems to never end.
if Trump “deserves condemnation for his egregious denial of his 2020 election defeat”, then Hillary Clinton deserves double. And every person who called Trump a Russia Russia Russia troll. And every person who forged documents to the FISA court, and every person who supported Muller’s “special counsel.”
And, of course, where is the arrest of Barack Obama who planned a coup d’etat in the Oval Office?
And any mention of the Capitol Hill trespass without mentioning attempted assassinations of Supreme Court justices incited by Chuck Schumer is just parroting the propaganda of Democrat communists.
The FBI is the Gestapo of the Democrat communist party. And we just hired 87000 more IRS storm troopers, rather than 87000 border agents or offered much needed funds to cities who barely have a full police force. They have made their intention clear, to fundamentally transform America into a communist state.
You can not tresspass on the capital while congress is in session.
Cities and states are responsible for their own policing.
The federal government should not be funding city or state police at all PERIOD.
Looking to NATO leaves more of the same bs. What ever happened to the doormat commerce clause? Obviously if states think their policy will impact another state….economically….they need the doormat to do that. And the court asks what for doormat? What the state is trying to protect. Here to fire its been not being a dumping ground for nuclear waste. …that know one thought out the consequences of. The doormat commerce clause…shouldn’t that put this a culture extortion to bed? Asking for a friend. Nino’s
About half the potential jurors in the country are going to arrive in court believing that the feds are lying pieces of s*** who should not be believed under any circumstances.
Merrick Garland must be impeached and removed from office immediately.
Abolish the FBI and raze the building.
No doubt you also called to defund the police.
Michael Steele, former Chairman of the Republican National Committee, responding to MTG’s call to defund the FBI:
“Trump failed to return classified docs requested by the National Archives. A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of a crime. This is not some rando move by the FBI so you shitforbrains Republicans calling for “defunding the FBI” for once try to be less stupid”
https://twitter.com/MichaelSteele/status/1556816227695214595
Approve an FBI raid to ransack a president’s home and private office because of suspected noncompliance with the Presidential Records Act?? Pffft. Remember when Obama took documents/files so President Trump couldn’t get them. He said they were for his “library.” We all missed THAT raid.
Presidential libraries don’t contain records covered by the PRA.
Why? Because Trump may have committed a serious crime? Gasp! say it ain’t so.
If the FBI raided mar a lago they must have had a very, very good reason to do so. So far it seems they have evidence Trump stole classified documents. That’s a big no no.
Did the FBI have a good reason to lie to the FISA Court? No
Did the FBI have a good reason to work with the Steele Dossier? No.
Did the FBI appropriately investigate Hunter Biden’s laptop? No
That makes the above comment by Svelaz pretty dumb.
Anonymous (S. Meyer),
What makes you think all those instances were conducted by the same individuals? You seem to imply that the FBI is composed of a small number of agents. None of what you mention has anything to do with the current problem Trump faces. He had claimed to have given all documents he was not supposed to have after he left office. Apparently he didn’t comply with that order. He is committing a crime if he still has classified documents that he is not supposed to have.
It is very hard to continuously respond to one who lacks intelligence and lies. There is not enough time to correct every one of your mistakes. Besides, corrections of your mistakes lead nowhere because you will run away and later repeat the same dumb comments.
“What makes you think all those instances were conducted by the same individuals? “
Reading comprehension is needed to discuss the topics on the blog. You apparently lack such skills.
Where did I say that the same or many individuals were involved? I didn’t, so I am dealing with stupid.
“You seem to imply that the FBI is composed of a small number of agents.”
Where did I imply that? I am dealing with more stupid.
“None of what you mention has anything to do with the current problem Trump faces.”
Moving from reading comprehension to history, we find Svelaz doesn’t know history either and can’t put 2+2 together. The problem Trump faces is the left is out to get him and has failed multiple times. The left is afraid of him because he is honest, and they are stealing.
Above Svelaz, I tried to use short sentences and small words so that you might be able to understand a glimmer of what is going on. Truthfully, I believe you are too dumb to understand. Every one of your posts shows this same type of ignorance, and this post is one of your better ones.
“He had claimed to have given all documents he was not supposed to have after he left office.”
Do you know differently? No. Are you able to even recognize the stupidity of your comment? No.
“Apparently he didn’t comply with that order. “
That should have told you not to make the prior comment in the way you did, but brain-dead individuals don’t worry about such things.
“He is committing a crime if he still has classified documents that he is not supposed to have.”
If that is the case then he falls into the same position as Hillary Clinton, Sandy Berger, and a lot of other Democrats.
I know you think it unfair that someone tells the truth and lets other readers know that you are Stupid. It isn’t. Firstly most already that and agree. Secondly, you lie a lot so you deserve everything you get. Actually, you deserve more, but most people are much nicer than me.
Finally, the last time you told me I had no right to tell the truth about your lying and ignorance. If you don’t like it, don’t respond to me, and don’t lie. If you don’t respond to me, I don’t have to respond back and tell the world what they already know, you are stupid. If you don’t lie, I don’t need to feel a necessity to correct your lies.
If you are a troll that is paid to post as some suggest, then I wonder why people are wasting so much money on you. If that is the case then I have a bit more than the zero respect I presently have because at least you would be trying to earn a living. If that is the case, I could teach you how to do it more effectively, but then we get to your number one problem. You are too stupid to learn.
An event worse than Watergate is unfolding.
The FBI raided Mar-A-Lago, breaking into safes, and carting away any documents they found. The National Archives referred the case to the Justice Department because it claimed Trump took home material deemed classified after his presidency.
The FBI didn’t take specific documents. They took everything.
Hillary Clinton had illegal servers in her home and kept thousands of emails illegally on it. Those emails were supposed to stay on the closed State system. Some of those emails were top secret. Everyone who entered her house had access to the servers, including cleaning crews and IT. She had it backed up to the Cloud, which is like screaming the information at the top of her lungs in public. It is certain that Russia and China got that information. Then, she lied about it, and wiped the server clean with Bleach Bit. Emails were found on the receiving end of a laptop in the possession of a convicted sex offender.
Nothing happened to Hillary Clinton.
So, excuse me, but Trump could take anything he wants home, put it on a bootleg server, and back it up to the Cloud according to this precedent.
They didn’t just come to get the information. They came like a SWAT team. They took all his personal papers, which means the Democrat activists at the FBI now have access to Trump’s personal political papers, his plans, his private ideas, anything he had in writing.
This is worse than Watergate, because it was done under color of law.
After all these years, they couldn’t pin a crime on Trump. So now they’ve raided his private home, and stripped it, looking for something, anything, to get him for. No one can withstand that kind of scrutiny. This is absolutely repugnant abuse of power.
Trump was entitled to have his own opinion as to the legitimacy of the election. Hillary Clinton STILL calls the 2016 election “stolen.”
He explored all of his options, got legal counsel, and asked everyone around him what could be done, since he believed the election was fraudulent.
In the end, he handed over the White House exactly on time.
It is not a crime to explore every option. It is not a crime to have an opinion, or voice that opinion.
Republicans are once again targeted by a politicized 3 letter agency. It’s been going on for years. The perpetrators get caught lying about it over and over, but nothing happens. Lois Lerner of the IRS. Clapper. Comey.
Conservatives complain but are totally ineffective at fighting this abuse of power.
Karen: I don’t know how to “like” someone on their comments, but thank you for reminding us of all this. For me, the issue is the tactical “timing” of these things (the new “raid”).
Presumably the timing is related to new information. Did it come from Cipollone’s recent grand jury testimony? from Alex Jones’s phone dump? We don’t know.
I must agree with you. However, as a new-puppy litigator years ago, I received some great advice from a senior partner: “Never ask [an adversarial] witness a question that you don’t already know the answer to.” I still see tactical timing. Nite nite.
None of us knows what they took.
You shouldn’t pretend to know “They took everything.”
Everyone else carted it off to a library, especially Obama.
Karen is right. It’s all screwed up. But good people did try to avert it. They go in the anus as paranoid schizophrenucs. Look at fort Carson’s medical records in 2006 ….demand to see their list without names as paranoid schizoohrenics…it’s a long list …. on the payroll….why…..because taxpayers are paying for plausible deniability for all their shennigans. Their legions of shenanigans they burry. They use pole they dispose pple. RElentless ly. So I can say here with impunity. Lajes86 545499a. Then what? They don’t care. Until I wonder why we sent assets without arms twice. Who answers that ? Comer?
But Hillary! But Hillary! What about Hillary!?
It’s hilarious how “shocked” trump supporters must be that he may have committed a crime after all. Republicans are howling and whining about what? An unfair investigation? Blatant government overreach? Why not wait and find out exactly why the FBI had very good reason to believe Trump may have committed a crime.
Did Alex Jones phone reveal damning evidence? Who knows.
What made Hillary Clinton’s actions legal?
You don’t know. Must not be smart.
They were legal. Problem was republicans wanted department policy violations to be crimes.
Unfortunately there was no proof that what Hillary did was an intent to disseminate classified information.
On the other hand Trump has been illegally keeping classified documents as a private citizen AFTER claiming he turned over all the other documents he took from the White House. Like Alex Jones, Trump’s lying got him in trouble. Felonious trouble. Ouch.
My advice to every America First loving American: This is unequivocally a blatant attack, not just on President Trump, but on every citizen desiring to live in a rule of law constitutional republic. This administration is in a full blown war against the American people and not just Republicans or Conservatives. E V E R Y O N E!
You can’t be bothered to wait and see the search warrant and the evidence presented to the judge that signed off on it. You’re just going to assume that it couldn’t possibly be a justified warrant.
“ou can’t be bothered to wait and see the search warrant and the evidence presented to the judge that signed off on it. You’re just going to assume that it couldn’t possibly be a justified warrant.”
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Yeah and the top secret FISA warrant process is full proof. You really are funny!
Clinesmith couldn’t be reached for comment.
I didn’t suggest that it’s “full [sic] proof.” I suggested that it’s possible that the judge had good reason to sign the warrant, and we shouldn’t pretend to know something we don’t know.
Anonymous, oh you’re going to have to wait until the frothing at the mouth rage and unhinged outrage coupled with making extreme outlandish conspiracies and just plain losing their minds settles down a bit.
I’m sure Turley will be working overtime writing a new column hitting the Hunter Biden “scandal” some more. It’s going to be a long day of Republican whining and feigned outrage and promises of revenge. This should be very interesting.
If Joe Biden has been labelled the 10% man and the Big Guy along with other criminal activities that seem to be documented on the laptop, why shouldn’t the laptop have been fully investigated and recognized as important evidence over 2 years ago?
The FBI is not doing its job and acting in a political fashion.
Considering all the other strange things being done by the FBI, your comments demonstrate a dull mind.
“ If Joe Biden has been labelled the 10% man and the Big Guy along with other criminal activities that seem to be documented on the laptop, why shouldn’t the laptop have been fully investigated and recognized as important evidence over 2 years ago?”
What exactly is the crime here? Being labeled the “big guy”? He was a private citizen when that was being mentioned.
“. . . justified . . .”
Right. Maybe *this* time the scorpion won’t sting me.
You’re either delusional or a bootlicker. Not sure which one’s worse.
We are at WAR. This was the shot heard round the world. Wake up all you idiots who are still asleep.
Olly:
After the precedent Hillary Clinton set, this attack on Trump is worse than Watergate.
Conservatives have been targeted by 3 letter agencies for years, including the IRS and NSA.
This kind of weaponized government attacks against those who oppose the Democrat Party is what one would expect to find in Putin’s Russia.
Democrats already control the public education system, Hollywood, most news channels. the Google algorithm, and most social media. Most of what you learn in school, can find on the internet, or view as entertainment is filtered through Democrats.
Democrats have politicized 3 letter agencies – EPA, IRS, NSA, FBI (Comey the Renfield to Hillary Clinton’s Dracula), and on down the line.
When the full power of government becomes weaponized against those who disagree with the Democrat Party, that should concern every citizen. When the FBI abuses its authority, AGAIN, against Trump as a former president, it could spark extreme civil unrest by a disenfranchised population who clearly has no recourse in their government.
There is no one law for all.
If this doesn’t trigger every honorable FBI whistleblower to act, then they will find themselves in the crosshairs of a criminal investigation themselves.
Karen S.
Again, well said.
Personally, as I have stated before, I do not want Trump to run in 2024 as I think it would be bad for the country.
However, if the raid was intended to “find” something to charge Trump with, and that is pretty weak in light of the Hillary precedent, then the USA resembles more of a third world country.
If the Dems are this desperate, to what other lengths will they go to maintain power?
A guy who actually won 81 million votes in the election doesn’t raid his opponent’s home. A guy who steals an election does. A big thanks to the FBI for sealing a Republican majority for the foreseaable future.
Oh and I wonder what Director Wray figures he will do after government service.
Mespo: “Oh and I wonder what Director Wray figures he will do after government service.”
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I hope make license plates. He is too much of a poof to last breaking rocks in the hot sun.
Biden wasn’t involved in the decision, and Trump’s the one who appointed Wray.
Aninny:
Washington appointed Arnold and if you believe Biden didn’t know about a raid on a former President you ought to really worry about who is truly running things.
Biden said that he’d stay out of DOJ decisions, and that’s totally appropriate. If Garland had sufficient evidence to convince a judge to sign a search warrant for a former President’s property, I’m not going to second guess the judge for no reason.
“Biden said that he’d stay out of DOJ decisions, and that’s totally appropriate. If Garland had sufficient evidence to convince a judge to sign a search warrant for a former President’s property, I’m not going to second guess the judge for no reason.”
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Right and that’s why Hunter Biden is under indictment right now. You really do think that we are fools. Jokes on you. The Dims will rue the day they opened this box.
Biden said that he’d stay out of DOJ decisions, and that’s totally appropriate. If Garland had sufficient evidence to convince a judge to sign a search warrant
Sure, you believe that. Even after Biden contacted the National Assoc. of School boards to sign a letter the White House wrote concerning schoolboard meetings. After which Garland broke land speed records to set policy allowing the FBI so spy on parents attending school board meetings. But NO Biden is 100% hands off.
Warrants? How many lies did the DoJ and FBI tell to get warrants investigating the Trump campaign. The FBI lies with impunity and Judges are active in those lies. We know Judges are corrupt, because they admitted the corruption. Stating a different President writing the same EO they would rule differently.
It has already been reported frequently by the Press that Biden and the WhiteHouse are CONSTANTLY ranting and raving that Garland has not jailed Trump and all his political enemies.
I do not grasp how it is that those on the Left think Trump is some dangerous totalitarian – as they engage over and over again in the most egregious abuses of power in US history. And to a large extent they do so openly.
mespo:
I don’t think Biden knows where he is. The old Biden, who sold favors to China through Hunter, would likely have been in on it. The sad shell of the man today is an empty suit. Whoever writes his Teleprompter likely knew all about it.
Mespo: “you ought to really worry about who is truly running things.”
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I do worry about that and have said as much here. Certainly the brain-dead hair sniffer isn’t in charge. He couldn’t even put on his own jacket today.
If they could link Wray to the Bidens that would cause quite a rumble.
Mespo:
The hand that counts the votes is the hand that rules the world.
Hunter Biden’s laptop contains nothing of interest to the DOJ, but Trump…
They are corrupt from their coifed hairs to the soles of their glossy shoes and they are terrified that Trump will return to power and break their rice bowls.
What a 3rd World Sh*thole looks:
Breaking: FBI Raids Donald Trump’s Mar-A-Lago Home
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What has been described at the darkest day in US history in statement by Donald J Trump, hoards of FBI agents are looting the possessions and breaking into safes in the most outrageous form of political persecution we have ever seen.
https://banned.video/watch?id=62f1a8c0684f61555d4b4b96
You follow admitted liars like Alex Jones. Shame on you.
Alex Jones has told MORE truth than anything you’ve heard in the so-called mainstream “news” media. You can sit down and shut your mouth.
You seem fond of telling people to shut up.
After you.
Only you. And people like you.
Sit down and shut your mouth.
After you.
Alex Jones committed perjury multiple times. He’s already facing the very real prospect of prison time.
So have Hillary, Comey, Clapper, and Brennan. Where are the raids on their homes?
Alex Jones recognized the Russia Hoax, the Steele Dossier and the Ukraine hoax as hoaxes. The NYT and WaPo lied about them.
I don’t know much about Alex Jones, but he was right on all the scandals while anonymous above was wrong as were the NYT and WaPo.
“Anonymous says:
August 8, 2022 at 9:01 PM
You follow admitted liars like Alex Jones. Shame on you.”
People can’t but notice all your type like the 1st judge in Tx attempting to railroad Jones got her position from the Nazi George Soros under Hitler & seems she rather fond of Antifa, Obama & other assorted trash.
Oky, you’re a deeply sick conspiracy theorist to believe that Soros was a Nazi.
I think they have made a big mistake.
Their Coup has been going on for decades. It feels now like it’s started to fall apart so in a panic they hope to close their corral gate before most people figure out where they’re at.
Next move likely again is supposed info is leaked to CNN/Wapo or NYTs, headline Orange Man Bad!!! Russia, Russia, Russia…. Oh Look Squirrel! 😉
I doubt it. I wonder what judge signed the search warrant.
Trump attorney Christina Bobb confirmed that the FBI seized documents from Mar-a-Lago today. Apparently even after NARA came for the 15 boxes, Trump was still holding onto material that shouldn’t have been in his possession.
In Texas, Dobbs Pits Counties Against Each Other
Scheme To Outsource Prosecutions
Soon after the Supreme Court voted to overturn Roe v. Wade, dozens of prosecutors nationwide — including at least five in Texas, representing some of the state’s most populous counties — declared they would not pursue charges against people who seek or provide abortions.
In response, a group of conservative Texas legislators have hatched a plan to circumvent those local district attorneys: allow prosecutors from other parts of the state to enforce the laws for them.
“The legislation that we will introduce next session will empower district attorneys from throughout the state to prosecute abortion-related crimes … when the local district attorney fails or refuses to do so,” wrote Rep. Mayes Middleton, chairman of the Texas Freedom Caucus, in a letter sent last week to a law firm he accused of aiding illegal abortions.
“Abortion funds think they can flout the law because a local district attorney refuses to bring charges. We’ll fix this problem next session,” said Republican state Rep. Briscoe Cain that month, when he announced he would introduce the bill.
Cain did not respond to a request for comment.
A prosecutor from Lubbock could press charges in Austin If Cain’s proposal passes, it would be another highly unusual modification to the traditional criminal justice system in Texas, following in the footsteps of S.B. 8, which used its private lawsuit mechanism to sidestep the Roe-era constitutionality issues of an outright criminal ban.
If it passes, an abortion fund based in Austin — where Joe Biden won 72% of the vote in 2020 — could be prosecuted by a district attorney from Lubbock, where Trump won with 65%. Austin voters may be unhappy, but they would have no recourse in any subsequent Lubbock County election.
In an interview last month with Dallas TV station WFAA, a reporter raised this question directly to Cain. Wouldn’t the proposal, the reporter asked, “essentially overturn, or move out of the way, a duly elected official?”
“I guess that’s how it would work. That’s the idea,” Cain replied. “And we’re gonna go for it.”
Edited From:
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/15/1111383520/texas-abortion-laws-prosecutors
Federal raid on Trump’s Florida estate.
Can there be any doubt that these jack-booted thugs helped steal the last election?
He took classified material there that should have been turned over to the National Archives.
No one should be above the law. Not him, not Biden, not you, not me.
Oh shut up.
LOL.
Just shut up. We have ALL seen DEMOCRATS being ABOVE THE LAW. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. We are now a third world banana republic. America is gone.
Anonymous, what are you talking about?
Hillary Clinton used her own private server in order to control all of her correspondence. She was supposed to use a closed State system. She kept an illegal server in her home, where everyone who entered had access. She had IT back it up to the Cloud, which is yelling the information in public. It contained Top Secret information. While under subpoena, she wiped it with Bleach Bit, and then lied about it. Some thousands of the emails were recovered on Huma’s laptop, in possession of her sex offender ex-husband Weiner.
Hillary Clinton faced ZERO consequences.
So, what the heck are you talking about that no one’s above the law, or that this material should have been handed over the National Archives? Because of Hillary Clinton’s precedent, he could destroy documents, and keep many thousands of others in his home. He could give access to those documents to everyone who entered his home. He could scan them and upload them to the Cloud.
NOTHING SHOULD HAPPEN TO HIM, if the same standard was applied to him as Hillary.
Worse, the President can declassify anything he wants. At the time he had the information, he could have determined it declassified.
Does the law apply equally to everyone, or is Hillary Clinton above the law?
The FBI did not arrive and ask for the information. They came with safe crackers. They took every document they could find, regardless of if it had anything to do with the presidency.
This was illegal search and seizure.
This was worse than Watergate, because Democrat political activists broke in and took all his papers, under color of law.
This is absolutely Lenin style dirty work.
Shame on any Democrat who supports this. Maybe one day they shall find themselves on the receiving end of a politicized 3 letter agency. Apparently, that’s how we run our sorry excuse for government now.
It’s like I always say. Democrats have a Machiavellian philosophy. Lose the Electoral College? Try to abolish the EC or fraudulently make it follow the popular vote, forcing states to cast an EC vote against the wishes of the citizens in that state. Supreme Court not go their way? Try to pack it or discuss getting rid of it altogether.
It’s guaranteed JT is writing a post on this raid.
For those that are outraged: please commit to ignoring the American-Marxist trolls as they attempt to disrupt the blog. Take note of their names and continue to ignore them in future posts.
He should be investigated, just like Clinton was.
They could have asked for it through their attorneys.
The Biden regime’s secret police is raiding homes of its political opposition and they call it “defending democracy.” In reality it is called ‘fascism.’
Young, show us a poll from the fall of 2020 saying Trump was likely to win.
Sit down and shut your mouth.
The fact the FBI/DOJ would risk so much to raid his home, supposedly unrelated to the J6 inquisition, proves the J6 inquisition has nothing to refer over to main justice.
No, it doesn’t. Not sure why you’d expect the investigation of Trump’s possible criminal exposure from J6 and Trump’s possible criminal exposure from taking classified material to Mar-a-Lago after his presidency ended to be on the same time schedule, when the former is part of a huge criminal investigation with hundreds of people already charged.
I couldn’t care less again why you fail to understand things.
GFY
Olly, the raid today may have nothing to do with January 6th. Don’t presume it does.
Take your own advice.
Keep twisting the truth. It will make you feel better. How many of those hundreds were cited for things they didn’t do or for things not much different than Jaywalking?
How many criminals has the left hidden from prosecution and I am not just talking about the thousands that rioted in the streets?
The Biden regime’s secret police is raiding homes of its political opposition and they call it “defending democracy.” In reality it is called ‘fascism.’
Olly, the question is whether or not the FBI would plant something.
That’s no longer a question. Clinesmith proved that.