Defense Department Inspector General has released its long-awaited report on what the Biden Administration left behind in Afghanistan. It is an unbelievable list of equipment left to one of the most violent groups in the world with a history of supporting terrorist organizations. I opposed the long war in Afghanistan, so I was not among those critical of Trump or Biden in pushing to leave the conflict. However, no one has ever explained why the Biden Administration left this equipment in Afghanistan as opposed to removing it or destroying it.
While the collapse of the Afghan government was rapid in the final days, the government had many months to prepare for the scheduled withdrawal. Yet, it took no steps to remove or destroy this equipment. Instead, it elected to leave this arsenal intact to the Taliban.
The ground vehicle inventory alone was worth about $4.12 billion. In addition, the U.S. military lost $923.3 million worth of military aircraft and $294.6 million in aircraft munitions.
The Taliban was instantly made one of the best equipped militaries in the world due to this windfall gift by the Biden Administration.
While the report says that “some” of the aircraft were “demilitarized and rendered inoperable during the evacuation,” most of this equipment was left read to use, including 316,260 small arms, including sniper rifles, machine guns and grenade launchers that were worth $511.8 million.
I do not understand how this clear and unimaginable blunder has gone unaddressed. No one was fired. There is not even any evidence of discipline of any kind. The Biden Administration decided to give the Taliban billions in weapons rather than destroy them. Yet, there seems little more than a shrug and a yawn from Congress and the press.
Get it straight Anonymous the Stupid, that you respond plenty but cannot do so to the essence of what is said. I’m not the only one saying this about you. I await for you to be able to respond intelligently. In the meantime, you can continue your quest to beat-up Karen over the obvious. You won’t. She is much more intelligent than you and understands the essence of any discussion.
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I can’t waste the opportunity to note that “shrug” was a Wordle word of the day.
“'[S]hrug’ was a Wordle word of the day.”
Be great if it became an action of the productive.
Get it straight Anonymous the Stupid, that you respond plenty but cannot do so to the essence of what is said. I’m not the only one saying this about you. I await for you to be able to respond intelligently. In the meantime, you can continue your quest to beat-up Karen over the obvious. You won’t. She is much more intelligent than you and understands the essence of any discussion.
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RE: Consider this as well: https://www.usip.org/programs/afghanistan-peace-efforts
I find it hard to believe that Professor Turley says, “I do not understand how this clear and unimaginable blunder has gone unaddressed.” Blunder? Far from it. The plan from the start was to reward America’s and Civilization’s enemies. If Professor Turley doesn’t get that reality, he really needs to go back and study history from the start, and with an open mind this time, instead of swallowing the leftist crap he was taught in the Leftist Indoctrination Entities (LIEs) that he attended. Let me make this plain and clear. The Deep State, which runs all major government centers, is NOT your friend and is NO friend of any other American or civilized person anywhere. Their agenda is to amass total authoritarian power by any means necessary. And the Taliban is merely one of their pawn allies that serves their interests. As for the Pressitutes, and the crimes of the Deep State going unaddressed, they too are pawns of the Deep State, so, of course, they’re going to coverup their crimes and help them promote their new ones.
Your article is not correct. A marine lieutenant colonel was on severely punished….for speaking out…..against the debacle.
Perhaps this level of incompetence in the White House could have been avoided if journalists had asked more probing questions than what Biden’s favorite flavor of ice cream was.
but, that’s the only one he can answer…
Joe Biden armed the Taliban with state of the Art American weaponry, technology, tactical gear, and vehicles. American taxpayers funded a tooth to tail upgrade for terrorists. American military and our allies will die because of this.
The Afghanistan withdrawal was a route, a retreat that will live in infamy. Craven incompetence.
Worse how many trillion did we allegedly “spend” there….just to bury the 2 billion lost by the Pentagon but destroyed in 911? Trillions. And no peep. It’s not incompetence….it pillar and plunder….full on.
Should say two trillion…lost records convienliently re: 911…not billion.
RE:”The Afghan withdrawal was a route…” Here’s the agreement. Free to decide for yourselves who, where, when and how, the ball was dropped. https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf
An agreement is a piece of paper. It doesn’t compel anyone to do anything. Trump signed the paper, but there is no chance that he would have carried it out under the circumstances that then obtained. It was obvious at the time that leaving was not a viable option, so he, or any decent president, would have ignored the agreement and stayed.
RE:”. “It was obvious at the time that leaving was not a viable option…” Absent any suppositions as to what Trump might or might not have done, I am in agreement. The ‘forms’ had not been complied with.
Knowing how Trump thinks is valuable. I think think that places both of you are on the right track. Trump always leaves a bit of wiggle room.
From the agreement:
“known as the Taliban will not allow any of its members, other individuals or groups, including al-Qa’ida, to use the soil of Afghanistan to threaten the security of the United States and its allies.”
ZZDoc, thanks for the agreement. At the top of the list, one should take note of this sentence: “known as the Taliban will not allow any of its members, other individuals or groups, including al-Qa’ida, to use the soil of Afghanistan to threaten the security of the United States and its allies.” That was the objective of the agreement, peace for the US and its allies.
“[N]o one has ever explained why the Biden Administration left this equipment in Afghanistan as opposed to removing it or destroying it.”
Because that would have required projecting the future, and thought and planning.
This is the “Now” administration — consequences be damned.
Closed minds are a precursor to deep national division which can lead the two sides to go beyond ‘verbal battle,’ a/k/a civil war.
What “civil war” are you speaking of? I am so sick of people tossing out “civil” war with no basis….civil war is Americans against americans….few american believes that is going to happen. If there comes a war it will be Americans against ilkegals….And probably won’t even be that….it will be revolutionary wR. Before that ever happens. where are you getting your intel?
This is the case lie I hinted at earlier today.
Like Jr, High civics teaches. The President is in charge of the Executive Branch
U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington D.C. ultimately rejected Judicial Watch’s suit by concluding there was no provision in the Presidential Records Act to force the National Archives to seize records from a former president.
But Jackson’s ruling — along with the Justice Department’s arguments that preceded it — made some other sweeping declarations that have more direct relevance to the FBI’s decision to seize handwritten notes and files Trump took with him to Mar-a-Lago. The most relevant is that a president’s discretion on what are personal vs. official records is far-reaching and solely his, as is his ability to declassify or destroy records at will.
“Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion,” Jackson wrote in her March 2012 decision, which was never appealed.
“Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records,” she added.
https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-08/memorandum%20opinion.pdf
The problem with this sweeping oborbit dicta….Is trump memo to declassify…wasn’t sweeping….so as not to be a tyrant…he ordered “iaw” law’s and proceedures. So maybe use law’s and proceedures…he gets a break? A Clinton and Obama break? At least complying more than his predisessors? But no break for him because fbi likes to fish. Fish all day long. And that’s all this is is a fishing expedition. while since they like to fish….why did that guy at shiever really get fired? An inappropriate rekationship….like we are that stupid! Yet you claim trump is the one ‘housing’ nuclear secrets….maybe he had good reason to!
Maybe before getting on trump case the chi fbi needs to explain….how a bit nuclear flew over the usa. And how that was chalked up as “inapprooriate” behavior…by the guy at schiever. . . And how all the missile officers busted for drugs…was inappropby riate. None this has been fixed. Poison still pours across our borders. And had kiddos(dod) not been cleaned except if trump ppl? If trump held nuclear secrets…..he likely had reason to. But it’s a fact he could not have them because the codes are changed routinely. If he barnacles secrets….let’s see them….it’s probably like…our nuclear force deals meth….And in 2007 sent an armed b1 over america armed. Let’s see the nuclear documents! He allegedly had and why. let’s see what he said…in accordance with law. And who he ordered to box them uo. But the fb i needed answers to that probable cause before it’s fishing expidition…for its affidavit….so let’s see.
“Inspector General: The U.S. Government Left More Than $7 Billion in Military Equipment to the Taliban”
– Professor Turley
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“$7 BILLION IS PEANUTS WHEN THE WORLD IS IN PLAY”
The hit on JFK was done by a lone nut. So were all the 60s hits: Marilyn Monroe, John F. Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby, Dorothy Kilgallen, David Ferrie, Martin Luther King, Robert F. Kennedy et al. Oh, and Donald Trump colluded with Russia…”Russia, Russia, Russia!”
Right?
(By the way, what the —- is the ignominious charlatan John “Dudley Do-Wrong” Dudham doing with truth and history – William “Mr. Deep Deep State” Barr’s boy, John Dudham, does what he’s told – lose?).
The Deep Deep State and Mossad did the hit on 9/11 to attract the U.S. to the Middle East for the benefit of U.S. interests and Israel, and who knows what else; the Twin Towers came down perfectly in their own footprints through controlled demolition after being “hit by planes,” the fuel of which burned at ~600 degrees for ~30 seconds, while steel melts at ~2750 degrees, and Building 7 was hit by, wait for it………NOTHING! Building 7 came down in its own footprint from NOTHING. https://www0.ae911truth.org/news/faqs.html
Shhhh!
It happened!
George, a little advice: It is better to not post and be thought an idiot, than to post and to remove all doubt…
Oops!
Looks like I hit a nerve…again!
My bad.
George, you obviously know little about the 911 crimes. So, permit me to educate you, just a little bit with just a few key points for now, with all of the sources for my information. Many nations warned the CIA about the pending 911 attacks, including the intelligence agencies of Britain, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Russia, Jordan, and, yes, Israel’s Mossad. In fact, Israel gave the US several specific warnings of the 9/11 attacks, including the following:
1. In the second week of August 2001, two high-ranking agents from the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, came to Washington and warned the CIA and FBI that 50 to 200 al-Qaeda terrorists had slipped into the US and were planning an imminent “major assault on the US” aimed at a “large scale target” [Telegraph, 9/16/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01, Ottawa Citizen, 9/17/01 Fox News, 5/17/02]. Near the end of August, France also gave a warning that was an “echo” of Israel’s. [Fox News, 5/17/02]
2. In October 2002, the story broke in Europe and Israel that on August 23, 2001, the Mossad had given the CIA a list of 19 terrorists living in the US. The Mossad had said that the terrorists appeared to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future. It is unknown if these are the same 19 names as the actual hijackers, or if the number is a coincidence. However, the four names on the list that are known are names of the 9/11 hijackers: Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, Marwan Alshehhi, and Mohamed Atta. [Die Zeit, 10/1/02, Der Spiegel, 10/1/02, BBC, 10/2/02, Ha’aretz, 10/3/02] These are also probably the four most important of the hijackers (and two of the pilots). From them, there were many connections to the others. The CIA had already been monitoring three of them overseas the year before, and two, Alhazmi and Almihdhar, were put on a watch list the same day the Mossad gave this warning. [AFP, 9/22/01, Berliner Zeitung, 9/24/01, Observer, 9/30/01, New York Times, 9/21/02]
Did the CIA and the FBI act on the numerous warning they received from the Mossad? Yes, they did. They SHUT DOWN and BLOCKED any attempts to stop the 911 attacks form occurring. All CIA and FBI agents that assisted in making sure that the 911 attacks occurred unimpeded were promoted and rewarded. But for you to make the claim that the Mossad was “behind” 911 shows that you’re a dupe of the CIA’s own disinformation.
Two words: Criminally Negligent.
This is silly since the US left all that equipment for the Afghan government forces. The only way to get it out would be to do as Trump did and disrespect them and leave them out of any negotiations and take the arms from them. So the REAL culprit is TRUMP who pulled the rug out from our US established government there. Biden actually refused to follow Trumps accelerated negotiated date for pull out. Too bad Turley likes the lies Trump promotes. I guess we can now know how Conway came up with her alterative facts lies.
” The only way to get it out would be to do as Trump did and disrespect them and leave them out of any negotiations and take the arms from them.”
Wow! You belong on Biden’s losing team. With you there Biden could lose worse, or maybe you are there and that is why we saw such an abysmal result.
You forget that it was TRUMP who was President when all of those arms were given to the Afghan government. It was also Trump who negotiated with the Taliban and cut out the government in power. So I guess you and Turley believe in magic since the government fell within a few days and you fail to mention how to get all of that equipment out in that time frame. Get Real and THINK!
Such carping simply shows a lack of knowledge and reasoning and it shows when you have NO rational answer and just call names.
I want to comment and wish it to be a positive rather than a negative, but I think your strong suit involves things outside foreign affairs.
“You forget that it was TRUMP who was President when all of those arms were given to the Afghan government.”
Your statement is not quite true, but it doesn’t matter. One should not leave in the fashion Biden did while leaving such armaments to be used against us or sold to our enemies. You might be used to things like Fast and Furious, but it isn’t a good policy.
“It was also Trump who negotiated with the Taliban and cut out the government in power.”
Look how Trump acted while he was in power. When the Taliban broke ’Trump’s rules, he punished them, and there were no significant problems in the following 18 months. Then Biden entered, and 13 soldiers died violent deaths while we abandoned those who helped us, our citizens, and a massive amount of weapons.
I suggest you look at what actually happened rather than what helps you argue a lost point.
“how to get all of that equipment out in that time frame. “
Biden was in office for longer than a few days. First evacuate Americans and Afghani nationals who are wanted, secrets, and desired military weapons. Don’t rely on the weakest of strategies. Biden was a fool, but that is no different from what he has been over the past 50 years.
I hope this makes you reflect on your thoughts.
It is true that Trump was not the only one who gave arms to the Afghan military, but HE was the one who undercut that government by NOT allowing them to join in talks. Then the FACT is that from 6 Aug to 15 Aug is the time frame of the collapse when the Taliban took over all provincial capitals and Kabul. So please tell us how Biden could have taken all those weapons back in that short time and evacuated our allies. I quite agree with the USAF that they did a magnificent job in getting such a huge, unprecedented number of people out in such a short time. I guess that you would have demanded that US forces take back all those weapons while fighting the Taliban!
Many people on the right blamed Congress for the fall of the Saigon regime because when it was obvious that regime was doomed, they refused to send more military equipment! Or even better, Reagan gave the mujahdeen Stinger missiles to defeat the Communist regime, and when that fell, the CIA had to try and buy back all of those when that war ended! Of course, they got none back. The Brits were much smarter when they were there and refused to give their allies at the time any artillery.
Randyjet, Trump was making a deal, a way out of Afghanistan while diminishing future threats. Did he undercut the government? Firstly, you have to recognize that Trump is the leader of our nation and looks out for American interests, not the interests of others. He discussed American withdrawal with more than one party, but he always did so as the President of the US. Take note of the wording in the agreement.
“Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan between the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan ***which is not recognized by the United States as a state”***
Take note he didn’t deal with the Taliban as a state. But he did discuss intra-Afghan discussions and had discussions with the Afghan govenrnment without ordering them what to do or how to do it. The Afghan government cannot dictate to the US how the US will act to third parties.
Most important is the following stated in multiple paragraphs of explanation:
“The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban will prevent any group or individual in Afghanistan from threatening the security of the United States and its allies, and will prevent them from recruiting, training, and fundraising and will not host them in accordance with the commitments in this agreement.”
The Taliban violated the agreement from the start. That led to Trump responding forcibly against the Taliban, and no Americans died in the following 18 months (at least from organized Taliban forces).
Trump’s method and timeline were dependent on the safety of the US. We don’t know what he would do, but I don’t think he would have given up Bagram airport until things were secure for Americans in the region. He might have remained because of hostilities.
The Biden approach was weak, disorganized, and as typical for him, dumb.
Biden pushed the date into the future. He fixed the date of withdrawal without maneuverability. Trump’s method required the Taliban not to be aggressive against American interests. Biden capitulated. The Taliban was not complying with the agreement, but Biden continued to capitulate. That was the opposite of the Trump method. Biden didn’t recognize that the Taliban was more organized and powerful than the state. Biden closed his eyes even though he knew the Afghan government would likely collapse. Politics was more important to Biden than the security of America.
The problem with that type of thinking is it leads to failure. We do not need to control Afghan internal affairs or its government. The job of our leader is to protect America.
Once again you fail to note that Trump had set a date EARLIER than Biden to leave. The FACT is that Trump cut out our allies in the talks which indicated that the US had no serious interest in supporting them. You also fail to mention any acts that Trump did against the Taliban. How you can say that Biden KNEW the US supported government would collapse is absurd since ALL of his advisors in the military and intelligence folks were as surprised as the rest of us. You also forget that the US pulled out of Bagram first before the fall and hardly CAUSED the fall. I fail to see how being trapped inside an airport would defeat or slow down the Taliban. Think that an airbase can protect itself without TROOPS and plenty of them on the ground? I see that military reality is not your suit.
“Once again you fail to note that Trump had set a date EARLIER than Biden to leave.”
Randyjet, you are not reading the document and understanding what it says. It was an agreement between a non-state actor and the US. The government of Afghanistan wasn’t involved. The Taliban broke their agreement shortly after the document was agreed on. That meant Trump could rightfully withdraw at his convenience. That was his game. To obtain the best American security he could. Trump pushed in that direction continuously. The Taliban broke the agreement early on, and I believe Trump planned to ease the Taliban in that direction. Though no one can know for sure, I think he would have occupied Bagram until he realized his goals.
Biden destroyed America’s ability to deal with all our enemies. He showed his cards and let everyone know the US was weak. Putin invaded Afghanistan, and China is eying Taiwan. I suggest you carefully read the document as everything you say demonstrates you don’t know what is in it.
“The FACT is that Trump cut out our allies in the talks which indicated that the US had no serious interest in supporting them.”
This agreement was not with the Afghan government. Trump recognized its weaknesses and dealt directly with the most organized and dangerous group for American security. Trump is President of America. Biden is not fit for the job.
“You also fail to mention any acts that Trump did against the Taliban.”
What acts are you talking about?
“How you can say that Biden KNEW the US supported government would collapse is absurd since ALL of his advisors in the military and intelligence folks were as surprised as the rest of us. ”
I don’t think ALL were. Check out what some have recently said. I also don’t think Biden knew much of anything. His skill is pay-to-play, where he gets 10% though Hunter said 50%.
“You also forget that the US pulled out of Bagram first before the fall and hardly CAUSED the fall.”
You are totally lost. That was the Stupid move.
“Think that an airbase can protect itself without TROOPS and plenty of them on the ground?
Look at a topographical map and troop deployment throughout all of Afghanistan during the Trump administration.
“I see that military reality is not your suit.”
Nope. You are used to losing. I am not. You can vote for the loser. I’m voting for someone else.
I see that I was wrong about your not having any grasp of military reality, it is reality itself in which you are deficient. You don’t know or care that Trump is not in the White House any more. I see that you also forget that the GOP LOST THE LAST ELECTION in both the Presidency, and ALL of Congress. I hope you continue voting for them since you are the loser. We need more such victories like the last election.
Your justification for not allowing the Afghan government to be part of the talks is bogus since I recall that the Vietnam peace talks included BOTH the North Vietnam government AND the NLF. Your tenuous grasp of reality is further proved by the assertion that Putin has invaded Afghanistan! JEEZ! Putin invaded Ukraine under Trump’s watch by the way. Given his love for Putin I understand why that was allowed! I see that you are a fan of Big Brother of 1984 when losing is victory and winning is losing.
“it is reality itself in which you are deficient.”
Randyjet, it is funny how, faced with good arguments, leftists have difficulty responding and instead accuse others of being deficient in knowledge. So far, you have shown us that you lack knowledge of the agreement with the Taliban, Bagram, and established ways of managing the withdrawal of troops and weaponry.
Knowledge and understanding of the document are essential to the discussion, so I understand why your arguments failed to move our debate forward. It sounds like you were winging it so if you choose to respond again, I suggest you carefully read the document. Not doing so can make you look bad,
“You don’t know or care that Trump is not in the White House any more.”
Of course, I know Trump is not in the White House and Biden is President. If Trump were President, the disaster in Afghanistan would never have occurred.
“I hope you continue voting for them since you are the loser.”
I vote based on policy. Biden plays a major part in our disastrous exit from Afghanistan that only losers can believe was a win. That disaster showed Biden to be a paper tiger and thus a major contributor to the Ukraine war and real fears of a China invasion of Taiwan. I know your answer, but Trump’… Take note of how Ukraine was attacked during the Obama-Biden administration and once again under the Biden administration. Ukraine was not at war during the Trump administration. Can you figure out why? I don’t know if you can because you should have already known that.
“Your justification for not allowing the Afghan government to be part of the talks is bogus since I recall that the Vietnam peace talks included BOTH the North Vietnam government AND the NLF.”
Tell us how Vietnam worked out since you are presently promoting your great(?) understanding of Vietnam, but not Afghanistan.
Did you note how you changed the subject without responding to my comments? I based those comments on facts, the agreement, and history. Where were you?
“Your tenuous grasp of reality is further proved by the assertion that Putin has invaded Afghanistan!”
Where was that said? Was there a typo? I don’t think so, so show me.
Where is your discussion on the points I made about the agreement and Bagram along with its topography and defensibility? Why did Biden leave Bagram before the removal of human resources? Why did Biden leave without dignity? Several things you say indicate numerous gaps on the subject.
“I see that you are a fan of Big Brother of 1984 when losing is victory and winning is losing.”
The analogy is perfect, but since you are on the wrong side of it, I think you should have kept silent.
And yet the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Milley, described the Afghanistan evacuation this way:
The withdrawal from Afghanistan and the evacuation of Kabul was “a logistical success but a strategic failure.”
No military general would consider abandoning billions of dollars in military equipment, that will be seized by a hostile regime, as a logistical success. A political general on the other hand only considers the optics. True to bureaucratic logic, the loss of that equipment is the trade off for the “good” optics of withdrawal by September 11th.
What a disgrace.
Dreams of Obama. This mirror’s Obama’s premature evacuation that was a segue to the second Iraq war, World War Spring series from Tripoli to Kiev, and overriding claims in order to fund the Iranian regime’s transnational wars. As well as the abortion of Bin Laden in darkness with experimental equipment left behind and couple of dozen American and Afghan soldiers sacrificed in a cargo carrier.
9/11, the “fake” “Pearl Harbor,” produced 20 years of war in Afghanistan and whole lots of other crazy stuff.
Every dependent, parasite and loser inside the border is allowed to vote.
The Deep Deep State doesn’t give a —— —- about elections.
The Deep Deep State functions entirely arbitrarily and independently of even a scintilla of oversight or direction by anybody or anything.
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“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”
– Joseph Goebbels, Reich Minister of Propaganda of Nazi Germany
What they don’t use, they will sell to terrorists groups in the region and around the world on the black market. The windfall will keep them flush in cash.
I suspect there are presently deals between the U.S. Government and the Taliban to send U.S. aid for some type of quod pro quo.
The scandal in this nation is the media and government suppression and distortion of factual information. They truly are a propaganda machine.
Stunning incompetence, not on the part of the amazing U.S. Armed Forces, but on the malignant leadership that represents this administration.
I’m a bit cynical. Perhaps “feigned incompetence” is more accurate.
What we left behind in Afghanistan and what we sent to Ukraine and ended up in the international arms black market will probably end up in the hands of people who hate us. This can’t be good.
NUTCHACHACHA, apparently, doesn’t realize that Joke Biden, Don and “Big Guy” of the Biden Crime Family, was the “fake” Deep Deep State-ensconced unpresident and commander-in-chief who gave the order for the expensive and dastardly retreat from Afghanistan.
LGBTQ – Let’s Get Biden To Quit
Georgie Porgie, pudding and pie,
Kissed the girls and made them cry,
When the girls came out to play,
Georgie Porgie ran away.
I like that…well, sort of.
Your dastardly anonymity notwithstanding, you’re quite the poet.
Just read that the DoD is preparing another $800 million defense aid package (that is just weapons and ammo, not other US aid) to the Ukraine.
That would put the so far running total just north of $9billion in weapons and ammo.
Do we really have accountability on these weapons and ammo are going in the Ukraine?
A year or two from now, would we be surprised if some Chicago gang banger uses a JAVELIN to level a rival gang’s home?
Turley: as a Fox minion, you are SO transparent. I only read the headline of today’s little piece. Pivoting to Afghanistan is, of course, a diversion away from Trump’s theft of TS/SCI documents, lying about them, the reports from eyewitnesses that he claims ownership of TS/SCI documents, that his lawyer lied about returning all of them, and the need for a subpoena to obtain more of them. The political tide is turning against Republicans, so it’s time to pull out something from the playbook. Crudite anyone?
And, if you want to complain about Afghanistan: why didn’t Trump arrange to have all of our military equipment returned when he cut a deal with the Taliban that didn’t involve our Afghanistan allies? How, exactly, was Biden supposed to get out equipment when the Taliban had already taken over because Trump released 5000 of them and drew down our troops from 14,000 to 2,500 BEFORE everyone and all of our equipment got out? Why didn’t he negotiate for an air or land base in Afghanistan when he had the chance? You claim: “I do not understand how this clear and unimaginable blunder has gone unaddressed. No one was fired. There is not even any evidence of discipline of any kind. The Biden Administration decided to give the Taliban billions in weapons rather than destroy them. Yet, there seems little more than a shrug and a yawn from Congress and the press.” The Biden Administration didn’t “decide” to “give” the Taliban anything–Trump had already let 5,000 of them out of prison BEFORE Biden took office and they quickly took over because our allies were demoralized and just gave up. They were demoralized because of the rotten deal Trump made into which they had NO input. This is the mess Biden was handed. The “unimaginable blunder” was Trump’s outrageously poor deal he stuck Biden with.
Turley is decidedly NOT a Fox minion as anyone, like me, who regularly follows him knows. He is simply one of many FNC contributors. His opinions are thought out and, unlike Lawence Tribes, are non-partisan. It amazes me what feats of logic the anti-Trumpers are capable of to protect their cherished bias.
To be sure, EBD! Point well taken!
EBD: Fox is nothing but a propaganda outlet. Turley’s role is to criticize Democrats, criticize any lawyer on non-Trump media who explains the law and WHY Trump is so crooked, to try to breathe life into the “beat a dead horse” “Hunter Biden Scandal”, and to stir the culture wars. His weasel-worded opinions are a joke, not just according to me, but other legal commentators. It’s amazing to me that minions like you don’t see Trump for liar, cheater, narcissist and danger to democracy that he is–and not just because he started an insurrection by lying about having lost the election, and the fact that he isn’t man enough to accept the will of the American people. The latest caper is truly something that should keep every American awake at night: WHY did Trump steal TS/SCI documents in the first place–what possible innocent explanation could there be, knowing that he had the advice of Pat Cipollini and Pat Philbin, both very high- quality lawyers who would have told him he had no right to take the documents; WHAT has he already done with them–is it already too late–did he provide them to Putin, Ergodan, Kim Jong Un or anyone else; or, possibly, did he steal them to use as leverage to try to force his way back into office by threatening to disclose or sell them in exchange for some benefit; WHO has had access to them in the year and a half he had them stored in an unsecure location, in his club in which thousands of people have visited, partied or attended events in the past year and a half; HAVE they been copied already; and WHY did he and his lawyer lie about having returned them? Stealing classified documents, especailly those pertaining to national security, is as bad as it gets, and not only that, he’s profitted off of the crisis he created by forcing the DOJ to get a search warrant. You say I am “biased”? Why should Trump have these documents to begin with–he became citizen Trump on Jan 20, 2021 at noon? Can you defend that?
So Joe knew it was a really bad deal so he went ahead and executed it anyway? Has he just let all of trump’s other “bad ideas” just continue? This is no justification for not destroying the equipment.
The “deal” was done BEFORE Biden took office.
And Biden could have never, ever, ever rescinded, canceled, renegotiated, or used an executive order to do then what he has done every week to destroy America since he occupied the White House? As if Biden has gone along with Trump’s other orders
You complain about Fox News but why do you lavish peddling lies on behalf of your many handlers in China? or are you suffering from TDS and lack of oxygen because you are still wearing an N95 mask from 2020? Hannibal Lecter is that you?
RE:”And Biden could have never, ever, ever rescinded, canceled, renegotiated, or used an executive order to do then what he has done every week .. “Responding to Natacha is a waste of precious time one can never get back. When one considers that she views the Hunter Biden matter ‘a dead horse’, consider the value of your own time in that regard. You know what you’re dealing with.
RE:”The “deal” was done BEFORE Biden took office…’……and Biden initiated and executed changes which compromised the ‘safeguards’ in ‘the deal’. When you structure your responses Natacha, remember the audience you are addressing. does not waste its time with the ‘Bravo’ channel.