Off-Duty Police Officers Found To Have Been Present During Biker Attack On New York Family

wife.jpgWe have been following the extraordinary case of the family terrorized by a gang of bikers in New York city. Alexian Lien, 33, was beaten and slashed in the attack which came after a long chase by the bikers. Previously, Christopher Cruz, 28. Cruz was charged with reckless endangerment, menacing, reckless driving and acting in a manner injurious to a child less than 17. A second suspect — Allen Edwards, 42, of Queens, was charged with reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing. He is believed to be the man seen on video below striking the Range Rover windows with his fists in the video below. The man with the chrome-colored helmet is reported to be Reginald Chance, 38, of Brooklyn. Another man, Robert Sims, 35, of Brooklyn has also been arrested. As many as five men appear to have beaten Lien, though the criminality would seem to extend to other bikers who trapped and pursued the family. It now appears that at least two off-duty police officers may have been present at the chase and/or beating of the family and did not immediately intervene or come forward.

The video shows Lien and his wife and child being stopped by the group. The bikers reportedly started denting the SUV with their helmets and may have slashed its tires. Lien is shown trying to escape by running over motorcycles and hitting at least one person. That person Edwin Mieses may be left a paraplegic after surgery for injuries to his heart, lungs and ribs.

100113_ff_motopsycho_640The video shows the bikers pursuing the fleeing SUV and making an attempt to enter it when stopped in traffic. Ultimately, bikers catch the SUV a third time and shatter the windows and attack Lien in front of his wife and daughter. Lien was pulled out of his car and beaten by the bikers.

Notably, the officers are now accused of not simply being part of the bikers and doing nothing to protect the family, but then remaining silent for four days before coming forward. By the time they came forward, the police were already identifying and arresting individuals.

The officers may be members of a motorcycle group called the Front Line Soldiers. The investigation is looking into whether they participated in the fight. However, I would also be concerned that they were part of a huge group of bikers harassing other drivers and then failed to come forward, according to reports.

One person Edwin Mieses may be left a paraplegic after surgery for injuries to his heart, lungs and ribs. Mieses was recently arrested in Andover, Mass., for driving with a revoked license and appears to have been driving again without a license. His right to drive in the state was revoked until 2017. His family has hired a lawyer and insists that Mieses was telling other bikers to leave and was walking back to his bike when he was hit. The problem is a question of the scope of what is considered a reasonable effort of escape. In torts, Lien would not have been able to use the vehicle to hit Mieses or others to protect the vehicle from property damage. You are not allowed to use force calculated to cause serious bodily injury or death in defense of property. The family will argue that they had reason to fear the bikers since they, including Mieses, appear to have stopped the vehicle in the middle of the street and damaged the SUV.

46 thoughts on “Off-Duty Police Officers Found To Have Been Present During Biker Attack On New York Family

  1. Fire them – pure and simple.

    We have enough problems with the proverbial “blue wall of silence” protecting bad faith within Departments.

    Can never permit that nefarious logic to expand its scope & breadth

    to the outside!

  2. I read this the other day and got sick. I happen to have had a similar scenario, just not as drastic. It was a NO BRAINER to break cover.

  3. 1. If the allegations relating to the officers are true, they deserve to be fired, have their pensions stripped and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. What are earth are police officers doing being involved in harassing drivers and threatening them on the Westside Highway.
    2. As to the biker who was injured while no one wants to see someone one hurt, how was the driver supposed to discern that someone who was clearly a part of the gang that was pursuing and threatening him and his family was all of a sudden becoming a “peace maker” as it has been claimed by his high profile attorney. There is no question in my mind that any reasonable person in that circumstance would assume that physical injury was a likely result of being stopped by this gang and as it played out that assumption was correct.
    3. The driver was running for his life from thugs on bikes whose purpose was to harass and threaten drivers and whose behavior was physically threatening. Was he really supposed to wait until the bikers pulled him out of the car as them subsequently did and allow them to beat him and perhaps harm his wife and child. The law suit is an outrage. I feel sorry for the driver who is now injured and for his wife and family who have been traumatized.
    4. I have sympathy for the injured bikers family but his behavior was voluntary and his behavior carried with it that he would be injured.

  4. “You are not allowed to use force calculated to cause serious bodily injury or death in defense of property.”

    I doubt Mr. Lien’s concern was for his vehicle. Like any parent, he was protecting his child and like any husband, he was protecting his wife from a crazy mob of thugs by trying to escape. Any juror will identify with him and would probably do the same thing.

  5. I think the operant word here is “calculated.” There was no apparent mens rea on the part of Mr. Lien. He was trying to get away as fast as he could. This is one of those times when one might wish to be driving a very large truck instead of an ordinary SUV.

    I have an idea that if Mr. Lien had been driving a Hummer or a dump truck, the gang would not have been so brave.

  6. I doubt the vehicle would have meant that much. This is nanny Bloomberg’s City. He has most folks afraid to acknowledge their fundamental 2nd amendment rights. Just like Chicago, the murder capitol! Teeny tiny mayors.

  7. There isn’t any reason why police should be allowed to carry weapons off duty if they aren’t going to enforce the law while off duty. If an off duty officer was the one driving the SUV what would have happened?

  8. I hear that the officers are assigned to desk duty pending an IA investigation….. Lets see where it takes them….

    If they were truely undercover….I am thinking they should have informed and then become Confidential Informants sealed until the cover was no longer needed….

  9. I refer all the persons on this blog to the CNN report which stated that there was NO attack prior to Lien driving over the biker. All that was done that the bikes simply stopped in traffic and I did not see any attacks at all.

    Since I have been on strike and walked a picket line, we DO try and impede people entering and leaving. We did not try and assault them, just slow or stop them. THAT is the whole point of the picket line. So most folks here take the old George Wallace position that if you get in the way or FEEL threatened, you have the RIGHT to run over and kill people. That is as bad as the stand your ground law that was used by Zimmerman and others.

    The assault happened AFTER Lien drove over and damn near killed the guy. Let’s deal with the FACTS, not prejudice because you don’t like the bikers and think that they are a threat by their mere existence as some on this blog have explicitly stated.

  10. Bruce:

    It happens occasionally where an off duty officer takes police action. I’ve arrested two guys for DUI while off duty and action against a disorderly passenger on an Amtrak train while I was on vacation. A few departments may still require wearing a handgun off duty but most do not (I don’t agree it should be manadatory but should be optional).

    A police commission is almost always (depending on department) not limited to being on the clock.

    The officers mentioned in this article ar going to have a lot of ‘splaining to do back at the office.

  11. Bloise, I refer you to the previous posts on the first time this was the subject. That has the CNN link there. The FACT is that if you look at that which DOES have the first encounter, there is NO taking off of their helmets and hitting the SUV. It was only about one or two seconds, then Lien either got pissed off, or was “afraid” in his mind because they were BIKERS that he decided that therefore they were thugs out to do him harm even though they had NOT made ANY aggressive move against him.

    All they were doing was a stupid prank that was illegal for sure, but hardly required him to run over and nearly kill the guy. Then he compounded the crime by running. Lien definitely committed the first felony which led to the chase. The bikers are guilty of a misdemeanor in the first contact.

    I have been the victim of an attempted “accident” in which a guy in a junker car came to a complete stop on a freeway by slamming on his brakes. Fortunately, I was quicker and had better brakes than he did since I was boxed in, and I avoided the “accident”. I did not think that I had the “right” to slam into him, even though he was in the wrong. Nor did I try and run him off the road after that even though I was plenty pissed off.

  12. FBI agents are considered to be on duty 24/7 w/ their weapons handy. The reality is, and I know a lot of them, many are not. Most are actually prudent in that when they know they’ll be drinking, they make sure the DON’T have their weapon handy.

  13. “I refer all the persons on this blog to the CNN report which stated that there was NO attack prior to Lien driving over the biker. All that was done that the bikes simply stopped in traffic and I did not see any attacks at all. ” (randyjet)

    On the other hand:

    “Law enforcement sources told the New York Post Tuesday that the bikers were trying to slow Lien down so they could get in front of him and take over the West Side Highway. Some bikers had already blocked off a few of the highway’s entrances to prevent drivers from entering, the sources said.
    Lien’s first encounter with the bikers shows a group of them taking off their helmets and denting the side of Lien’s SUV, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly told The Post. A few other riders slashed the tires. Lien apparently panicked and stepped on the gas. He was surrounded at the time and slammed into a few of the riders, the report said. …

    (when they finally caught up with the fleeing SUV on W. 178th St.)

    “They went up on the sidewalk. It was just so many of them that they took up the whole street,” one witness told The Daily News.”

  14. Bruce: – I concur, bigger vehicle, less likely.

    Otteray: – Again, I concur, no mens rea/scienter – possibly a “panic”

    Randyjet; – 1st off, need a link to CNN. Secondly, the verity of CNN’s remarks are always subject to interpretation. Finally, the “damn near killed the guy” along with the suppositions of “unprovoked” assumes facts we don’t have in evidence.

    If what you say is even partly true, it goes toward the mindset of the purported abject silent (purported “undercover”) policeman.

    Time may tell!

  15. If he lived west of the Mississippi the driver of the van could have simply pulled his pistol and started shooting the punks– right through his side window when they started smashing it. But nooooo. In NYC one can not have a weapon to defend oneself from mobs.

  16. laserhaas. I refer you to the previous blog on this site which does have the CNN link. As for facts not in evidence, you must not read very well since all the reports have stated the guy Lien ran over is in the HOSPITAL and paralyzed. I call that damn near killing a person. Now maybe YOU require that he be on life support for that to be nearly killing him, but I think most folks do not.

    As for what the bikers were trying to do, it is fairly obvious to me that they were trying to get an open car free highway to race on to see who had the fastest bike. With the highway clear of other vehicles for a short while, they could run their bikes up to 100mph or better on an open road. All Lien had to do was sit there in his air conditioned SUV, watch them try and kill themselves, and they would not be there long in any case, since they would be getting hot and need a beer transfusion in a short while.

  17. Darren,
    When I was in law school, several Chicago Police officers were in some of my classes and they were wearing their guns. Kind of scary for me.

  18. Weenie, That’s because NYC and Chicago people are civilized. People w/ guns are uncivilized. Didn’t you get the memo?? As you know, good people in Chicago and NYC are sitting ducks.

  19. raff, It would not have been “scary” if some disaffected psychotic, young man armed to the teeth ala Virginia Tech, came in firing. It would have been life saving.

  20. The car should never had stopped, it’s bigger than those bikes. Sad that even as adults we still find the ability to bully people.

  21. So that is what they wanted to do: clear the road for themselves. If there were nothing but bikers out there then it would be easier to shoot them.

  22. There was a movie with Marlon Brando that helped start this culture of tough buy bikers. Then there was that one called They Shoot Bikers Don’t They? It seemed like there was a lack of guys named Aaron on the streets the other day to take care of the situation.

  23. i see there is still the same individual who is refusing to acknowledge that the BIKERS WERE FLIPPING WRONG IN AND ON EVERY INSTANCE. cruz deliberately BLOCKED and then STOPPED in front of lien INTENTIONALLY. which caused Lien to bump cruz bike. then THE OTHER BIKERS decided it was their right to try and ATTACK lien with his wife and child in the suv.

    hey randy here’s a question.
    why did cruz block and stop in front of lien?

    wait here’s another question..
    why did miese stop his bike IN FRONT OF LIENS SUV.?

    didnt he just see his friend get bumped by liens suv? yet he parks his bike in front of the suv.
    and did miese really think he would be able to stop all those guys by himself from attacking lien?

    oh dam i just thought of another question for you.
    why did the other bikers just ATTACK instead of trying to find out what happened?

    wait i just can’t seem to stop asking these questions which obviously bypass your biasness for the bikers. against lien. so here are some more.

    they had to see the woman and child in the suv why again did they just ATTACK liens suv by trying to break the windows with their helmets?

    isnt there a rule of the road about just how many feet you are to be in front of or behind a vehicle when switching lanes ?

    how did the bikers who were in the back even know that lien bumped cruz? cruz could have fallen off his bike in front of liens car. but that didnt matter they took on a savage rat pack mentally and ATTACKED. not even knowing if there was provocation for an attack…..

    and who gave them the right to take the law into their own hands? by beating up anyone? if the helmets had been on the other foot im damn sure they wouldnt have stay still either while a mob attacks them. and so far only 2 of the so called brave, bad, dangerous mob has turned themselves in. the rest are already attempting to lie their axxes .. cruz even has the nerve to try to make himself the victim. and talk about how his life has been turned upside down….

  24. randyjet,

    I saw the CNN link but thank you for the reference. My words “On the other hand” referred readers to a different take on the matter with quotes and links included.

    Here’s some additional “on the other hand”:

    “Kelly said the gang of riders, known for their rallies and daredevil stunts, planned to congregate in Times Square that day. But he said the gathering was nixed by the NYPD because of past problems.

    Last year, “they drove down Broadway [with] over 1,000 motorcycles, dirt bikes, quads,” Kelly said. “So there was an intention to do that again this year, but because of [police] checkpoints and enforcement in the outer boroughs, they weren’t able to make it.”

    In shutting down the Times Square gathering, cops arrested 15 people, confiscated 55 motorcycles and issued 68 summonses to the bikers”

    The gang is known as Hollywood Stuntz

  25. Bloise it is obvious that the last time the bikers did that they had not one of the bikers run over, nobody was beaten, cops were not beaten, etc.. So all it was going to be was another stunt to shut down a highway. BIG DEAL! Lien took it upon himself to run down the bikers with no provocation other than he was either pissed off, or afraid because they were bikers.

    I am rather disappointed in some of the folks on this blog who would like nothing better than to run over any striker on a picket line and justify doing so too because they were pissed off or “afraid”. Let’s get real and deal with the FACTS. The CNN tape shows NO assault at all on Lien before he ran over the biker and seriously injured him. My take is that the guy was just pissed off and wanted to run down the people because they were in his way. When you do things like that, it is a felony.

  26. I heard the bikers were denied a permit to parade their bikes, but they went ahead and did it anyway blocking side streets and slowing down the traffic coming from behind

  27. There is a song out there which is made for these schmucks on bikes:

    “Macho Man”

    Body, wanna feel my body,
    body, baby, such a thrill, my body
    Body, wanna touch my body,
    body, baby, it’s too much, my body
    Body, check it out, my body, body,
    baby, don’t you doubt, my body
    Body, talking about my body, body,
    baby, checking out my body

    Listen here

    Every man wants to be a macho man
    To have the kind of body always in demand
    Joggin’ in the mornings, go man go
    Workouts in the health spa, muscles grow
    You can best believe me
    He’s a macho man
    Glad he took you down with anyone you can
    Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey

    Macho, macho man
    I gotta be a macho man
    Macho macho man
    I gotta be a macho

    Macho, macho man
    I gotta be a macho man
    Macho macho man
    I gotta be a macho

    Body, its so hot, my body,
    Body, love to pop my body,
    Body, love to please my body,
    Body, don’t you tease my body,
    Body, you’ll adore my body,
    Body, come explore my body,
    Body, made by God, my body,
    Body, it’s so good, my body

    You can tell a macho, he has a funky walk
    his western shirts and leather, always look so boss
    Funky with his body, he’s a king
    call him Mister Ego, dig his chains
    You can best believe that, he’s a macho man
    likes to be the leader, he never dresses grand

    Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
    Macho, macho man
    I’ve got to be, a macho man
    Macho, macho man
    I’ve got to be a macho! (all right)

    Macho, macho man (yeah, yeah)
    I’ve got to be, a macho man
    Macho, macho man
    I’ve got to be a macho! All Right!

    Body, my body, body, wanna feel my body
    Body, baby, body, body, come and thrill my body
    Body, baby, body, body, love to funk, my body
    Body, baby, body, body, it’s so hot, my body

    So hot, yeah my body

    Every man ought to be a macho, macho man
    To live a life of freedom, machos make a stand
    Have your own lifestyles and ideals
    Possess the strength of confidence, that’s the skill
    You can best believe that he’s a macho man
    He’s the special god son in anybody’s land
    hey, hey, hey, hey, hey

    Macho, macho man
    I gotta be a macho man
    Macho macho man
    I gotta be a macho

    Macho, macho man
    I gotta be a macho man
    Macho macho man
    I gotta be a macho

    Macho, macho man
    I gotta be a macho man
    Macho macho man
    I gotta be a macho

    I gotta be a macho man
    I gotta be a mucho mucho, macho macho man
    I gotta be a macho

  28. Beldar here. After I sent the motorcycle story back to my bosses on Remulak they told me to shut down the research. They are going to go with the ants in populating their new planet. Mankind is too macho. The song in the last post above convinced us.

  29. i love some of these comments.

    that the cops must have been undercover, not just people out riding with their friends.

    why did the guy that got run over stand in front of the suv?

    these aren’t the hells angels/mongols/sons of anarchy here. they are a bunch of people out riding on a nice day when. half of the bikes here are dirt bikes, including the bike the camera person is on, just listen to the sound.

    the guy who got run over was in front of the suv because the suv had just ran over his rear tire.

    yes the bike did just lane change in front of the suv and then slow down. so what, people in cars do that all the time and if you run into the rear of them it’s considered your fault for rear ending them.

    it was a simple accident until the guy in the suv decided to leave the scene by running over the person he originally hit. that’s when the other riders chased him down and beat the shite out of him.

    riding a motorcycle doesn’t mean that others can drive over you if you get in their way.

    and having a suspended license doesn’t make the accident his (the riders) fault.

  30. When you are a jet, you’re a jet,
    You’re a Jet all the way..
    From you’re first cigarette to your last dying day.

    When you are randy you’re a dandy
    and strung out all day
    from you’re first motorcycle to your last living day.

    So get on your bike and go fast as you can
    When you hit the turnpike watch out for the Klan.
    Some guy in a hoodie will be there for you
    Your ass and a fiddle will no longer do.

  31. One of the reasons that Americans tolerate bikers in gangs is because of the Marlon Brando movie. It is time for a new movie. The star will be named Aaron and he will be well armed.

  32. bettykath,

    I believe you’ve got it!
    Except the cops didn’t move in, this time.
    Probably couldn’t wade through all those law-abiding motorcyclists.

  33. This just in. No one blabs it faster. Our coverage can’t be beat. The boys we got downtown are workin’ hard and doin’ swell.

    The news article has been updated:

    “An undercover New York police detective seen on video smashing the back window of an SUV during an attack by a pack of angry motorcyclists was arrested Tuesday on charges of riot and criminal mischief after surrendering in Manhattan, police said.
    Detective Wojciech Braszczok, 32, was accompanied by his attorney when he surrendered.
    Sources told NBC News earlier Tuesday that the officer was seen on a newly obtained video banging on the rear window of the SUV and shattering it.”

    A name and an arrest add a bit of truthiness to the rumor.

  34. 1st of all – IF (a biggie) the driver ran over someone;
    it is possible the undercover was breaking in to arrest/HALT the driver.

    It takes brute force to stop mendacity.

    As for bettykath’s premise – I believe they call that entrapment, when an agent of the authority is a provocateur.

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