There is an interesting case out of Florida where a dispatcher for the Palm Bay Police Department is accused of having a sexual relationship with an 11-year-old boy. Amanda Chandler, 40, is married and a mother of two young children ages 10 and 8. What caught my eye was the account of her husband.
Chandler reportedly tried to commit suicide with pills and ended up in the hospital. It then came to light that she was allegedly having sex with the boy and possibly other children. She was arrested Monday night at a local hospital and charged with eight counts of capital sexual battery and five counts of lewd and lascivious molestation. That could give her life in prison due to the aggravating element of having sex with a child under 12.
In the coverage, the following line struck me as a bit odd: “Her husband told police he would sometimes catch the boy in Chandler’s bed, kissing each other on the cheek and as he put it ‘hanging all over her.'” What I fail to understand is how you can “catch the boy” in her bed and not be a bit more than suspicious. He is also quoted as saying that he would come home occasionally finding his wife resting or sleeping in her bed with the boy and at least once believed that he came in after they had been kissing. News stories also report that the husband grabbed her iPad and found various suspicious messages between his wife and the boy. However, he still expressed shock when the charges were brought against his wife.
There is really too little in these stories to judge the husband and he may have only reached these conclusions in hindsight. However, putting aside this case, there is an interesting question of what inaction can be viewed as culpable conduct in such cases. If a husband or wife believes that a spouse may be raping a child, the question becomes when that knowledge is significant enough to make the husband or wife a co-conspirator or criminal actor through inaction or a failure to report.
Once again, there is too little information to accuse the husband of any collusion or conspiracy. Indeed, he may have simply been clueless. This is a very difficult thing to believe about any person, let alone your wife. I think that there has to be substantial evidence of both knowledge and collusion to support a spousal charge in such a case. The husband has been open about his concerns and has clearly cooperated with police. As for Chandler herself, her counsel is likely to immediately explore the possibility of a plea. If not, there could be a fight over whether the prosecution can introduce her attempted suicide in the trial. It is clearly prejudicial since jurors will assume that it is an effective admission of guilt. Yet, I cannot see how they would be able to keep it out, particularly since she was arrested at the hospital. A plea seems the logical move for the defense in light of such evidence.
Pogo, no one accused you of pedophilia. I think you know this, but you continue to try to give it mileage. That says a lot about you . Your “Chief/Pogo persona just had a meltdown in front of all these good folks, I’d be embarrassed if I were you.
And from what I recall from other stories, if this child, too young to give consent, impregnated this pedophile, he could be ordered by the court to pay child support, AND she might retain custody of the child produced from rape.
I hope such a thing did not occur in this case.
But it’s a good reminder that it’s time for our laws to catch up to the realities of today, to protect underage victims of female sexual predators from such situations, and to protect the children born of these rapes.
This is just so tragic. I despise pedophiles who give in to their urges. The poor little boy. This can affect his whole life, as well as his relationships with women.
DBQ: How awful. I cannot understand why, so many times, women will choose their spouse, and their own comfort, over their kids. We read about it in the news way too often – women looking the other way while their spouse or boyfriend beats or molests their children. In this case, it was the husband who kept his blinders on. Parents are supposed to fight tigers for their own children, and adults are expected to protect children in general, regardless of whether they are related or not.
This reminds me of what really made me ill in the Sandusky case. That junior coach walked in on a rape of a child, and he walked back out, in a supreme act of cowardice. Sorry. As a woman, I’m half the size of Sandusky, and you would have to peel me off his back with my claws dug in if discovered him raping a child.
She does seem to bust JT’s balls when he is on family vacations by acting even more angry than usual. But, that’s part of the borderline pathology.
Well, There goes the blog. The Queen of trolls was absent and we have had a good few days. She returns and craps all over the place. If only there were a cure for borderline personality disorder. I think the size of this woman may have struck a nerve.
False accusations of pedophilia, like false accusations of rape, are not “pushback”, but illegal and immoral, a kind of depraved abuse the legal system for silencing someone.
Disgusting.
Pogo, daily you make vile comments about others on these comments threads, accusing liberals of all manner of things. When you receive pushback, don’t be surprised. This isn’t your personal private playground in which you get to play the part of the “Chief” unchallenged. Put on your big boy pants.
Inga did accuse or imply that Pogo and Paul either are pedophiles or eager for pedophilia to become legal.
“Pogo and Paul seem to be quite eager for pedophilia to be made legal, hmmmmm…….”
Since Paul DOES post under his real name, I suggest he do a screen grab of this entire thread and document the libel that is being perpetrated by the poster I.Annie.
Pogo: “Inga seem to be quite eager for a libel lawsuit.”
Inga: “Really Pogo? I’d suggest you watch what you say then.”
Seriously. Screen grab.
Watch what you say indeed.
What the hell are you talking about? I relayed a personal experience. The world does not revolve around poor little furry Pogo the possum. My comment had nothing to do with you. Seriously, get a grip.
Must be you think pedophilia is funny in some way.
hmmmmm…….
“People need to have courage when reporting suspected pedophilia.”
Yet you imply others are pedophiles, apparently in a sick attempt at humor.
Disgusting, shameful, sick.
I did not accuse you of pedophilia Pogo, just as you didn’t accuse all liberals of wanting to legalize pedophilia. Don’t be a crybaby.
So you accuse people of pedophilia for fun now?
People need to have courage when reporting suspected pedophilia. I’ve done it once in my lifetime after seeing a child with an abnormally close relationship with the mother’s boyfriend. The child was being molested as it turned out. I lost a good friend, the mom, after bringing the odd situation to her attention. It’s amazing what women and men will do to rationalize a disturbing truth in someone they supposedly ” loved”. The child had many mental health issues for many years thereafter. The boyfriend went to jail.
“Could we stop these juvenile exchanges?”
I wonder what you consider an appropriate response to Inga accusing two people of being pedophiles, an accusation that gets people jailed and fired?
To make such a charge so cavalierly is sick, venal, sociopathic.
As a result, absent Turley deleting that offensive and libelous post, my only option is to flood the zone.
It’s your call.
OK…..now that the children are done flinging poo…..
The husband might have been one of those who suspect what is going on but doesn’t want to believe that it is happening. Selective blindness. If he denies that it is even possible, then it can’t possibly be happening. It happens quite often in a marriage where one partner is unfaithful and the other partner refuses to see what is plainly in front of his/her face.
Unfortunately in this instance, it isn’t just refusing to acknowledge that your wife/husband is harming you and your relationship, there are children being harmed. Turning a blind eye to this is not just keeping yourself in the dark, it is allowing the harm to be inflicted on innocent others.
So….yes. I do think that his part in the instances is suspect and he could be considered an accessory.
Years ago (over 38) we had some friends who had a small daughter. We would often go to their house with some other couples and play cards. The daughter never was allowed to come out of her room when the adults were there, which seemed a bit stringent and strange. However, we were quite a rowdy bunch back then and assumed it was for her protection. As it turned out when the girl became a teen she ran away to her grandmother for protection because her father had been molesting her. Suddenly, the strange behaviors made sense. They didn’t want her to spill the beans or act strangely around the other adults. The grandmother eventually got full custody. The girl didn’t want to go back to her mother either. The mother MUST have known and did nothing or else even abetted the molestation! Needless to say, we were all shocked and cut off all contact with either of the parents. Subsequently, they moved out of town. They STILL stayed together as a married couple. Unfathomable!!!!! What is wrong with that woman, we all wondered.
So….the husband in this case while not necessarily and active participant, is still culpable. Unless he is an absolute moron, there is no way that his suspicions were not raised and no reason that he should have done nothing. Nothing at all.
BarkinDog, I cannot agree. Rape of an underage boy or girl by an adult is still rape.The assailant was an adult who knows better.
And this guy (Pogo) is supposed to be a physician?
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
If the kid got laid he is lucky. This is not same gender sex. If it were an eleven year old girl and an adult guy it would be entirely different. Boys dont need to wait until they are 18 to get laid. She is kind of a hog in the photo but what the heck a roll in the hay at age 11 is one up on what the other kids are doing.
Well to clarify, l’ll speak for myself, I can.