Pelosi Accuses Trump Of Looking “Sedated” At State Of The Union

I have previously written that some Democrats appear to be adopting Trump-like tactics while denouncing Trump for the very same conduct. The trend is spreading with name calling and increasingly outlandish criticisms. The Democrats will not out-Trump Trump, but they will erase any distinction between them if this trend continues. That was evident yesterday when Speaker Nancy Pelosi not only expressed pride in shattering decades of tradition in her conduct at the State of the Union, but changing the role of the Speaker at the SOTU from a strictly neutral figure to an openly partisan one — a change that was widely celebrated by Democrats without any self-awareness at the hypocrisy of the position. Pelosi then added an entirely unexplained allegation that the President was drugged or medicated at the address to the two houses. The media again seemed relatively mild in the face of that allegation as well as the unprecedented conduct of Pelosi.

At her press conference (where she was barely challenged on abandonment of long-standing traditions at the State of the Union), Pelosi said that she did not take her action because of the President’s refusal to shake her hand. Instead she said that she extended her hand because she felt sorry for the President: “It was also an act of kindness because he looked to me like he was a little sedated. He looked that way last year too.”

It was a shocking and disturbing suggestion. If the Speaker believed that the President was using drugs, she has a duty to address the matter — not intentionally spread rumors or fuel speculation. It raises the abuse of Barry Goldwater by Democrats who spread rumors that he was mentally unstable and being treated for psychological issues.

If Pelosi has evidence supporting this allegation, she should make it public. It is unbecoming to her office and unfair to Trump to use a press conference to spread this rumor and then refuse to answer questions about the basis for the allegation.

Again, the silence of other Democrats in the face of such conduct by the Speaker is deafening. No Democratic member has stepped forward to denounce the Speaker’s demonstration at the SOTU or her obvious effort to spread an allegation that the President is under sedation. In the end, this will prove costly to the Democrats. While anti-Trump critics thrilled at Pelosi using the SOTU to degrade Trump, they have joined a race to the bottom that will only alienate many swing voters. No one who believes in the need for dignity and civility in government can support — or silently accept — the raw partisan conduct of Pelosi at the address.

I also criticized Trump’s address and his press conference the next day. However, Pelosi has her own obligations as the head of the House of Representatives, Trump’s inappropriate comments does not give her license to her “liberated” from historical or ethical rules of conduct. Those obligations attached to her office and are assumed by her when she took the office. We can either be a true Speaker or she should step down and become a mere partisan in the House.

138 thoughts on “Pelosi Accuses Trump Of Looking “Sedated” At State Of The Union”

  1. Since Reagan/companies/1980’s forcing employees to take drug test & still today I’ve supported all high govt officials, Congressmen.Senators, Judges, Fed Prosecutors, etc. have monthly drug test.

    Lets us citizens, all of us see the crap they are running on.

    Ruth B Ginsburg, is she still even alive?

    You 1st Pelosi!!

    1. They don’t have to…they are on a different Health Plan…Congress Health…different than the citizens

  2. A DAY IN THE LIFE OF WINSTON
    ___________________________

    “Winston, if you were my husband, I’d poison your tea.”

    – Lady Nancy Astor

    “Nancy, if I were your husband, I’d drink it.”

    – Winston Churchill

    1. George, do you have your suitor book for me of possible husband candidates? I’m still waiting, since you want me to pop out some American kids…sounds good, where is my man who is going to cover any and all the expenses—without have a complete meltdown—himself.

      Until then, I’ll be plugging away at my job, and paying my own bills.

      Maybe there are some “Girl Power” types out there, if you follow Television Predictive Programming…okay, fine.

      But I’m also seeing some “Peter Pan” syndrome men on the Tellie too….not willing to commit to anything more than a casual “good time, ” who don’t want marriage, and 100 % don’t want children—until they’re at least 50 yo.

      Call it what you want, call it the arrested development generations, can’t afford a house, can’t pay off their student loans, just getting by on their $1800-2100, studio or 1 bed apt, trying to make their car payments.

      For a lot, getting married and having children is simply out of the question in a large major city…without putting the onus on either gender.

      But again, if you can get me a suitor booklet, with men jn their 30s and 40s who want to get married and want to have kids, please let me know. I don’t know where they’re all hiding from me. I guess since I can’t find them, ill just continue to focus on my career/paying bills, and worry about it later down the road.

      1. “The Hand That Rocks the Cradle Is the Hand That Rules the World”

        – William Ross Wallace
        __________________

        Looks like the hand that will rule the world will be Chinese or Indian because American Feminazis would rather be men and kill
        their babies in the womb. The American/Western fertility rate is in a “death spiral” as more Americans die than are born. Women are the true misogynists who hate and reject their essential raison d’être, pregnancy, delivery and comprehensive nurturing. Women and the 19th Amendment constitute a “death sentence” for America, which, by the way, imports its population of evermore hyphenates.

        More like:

        “The Hand That Rejects the Cradle is the Hand That Terminates America With Extreme Prejudice.”

        – Feminazis

        That’d be the hand of “woke” and “liberated” American women – Feminazis. The future is bright. Do the math. Women will be able to vote in a country without people. What the —- are American/Western women thinking? What is the natural obligation and duty of men in assuring the perpetuation of the species, race, family, in the face of refusal and non-performance by women? Looks like men will have to “grab” the…bull by the horns to resolve this existential question.

        1. Oh, yeah, I keep having add ons for this booklet.

          No married men who claim/appear to be single.

          That was my last experience, at an event, guy has no wedding ring, is being ultra flirtatious, up until this women comes over and very sternly introduces herself as his wife, and promptly shows me her phone with the two of them and their three kids.

          His look of shame. My look of complete shock. Her very stern death stare.

          But hey, George, at least some Americans are procreating….

    2. Also, George, please no men in this Suitor Booklet who need to call Mommie to make sure it’s okay if they go on a date with me.

      If you’re 36 yo, and you need to ask your mother to go on a date, we’ll just say the date was over before it started…a sudden case of the “flu.”

      And yes, this 36 yo is a licensed attorney who holds down a job, but alas, mom is in charge.

      So, none of those types, please.

    3. And I am serious about this Suitor Booklet that you nominated yourself to put together for me….for the making of American babies.

      I am taking a page of out my buddy, Mitt R’s book, or should I say binder…? He is not my actual buddy, George, I’ve never met the guy, but I am using the term “my buddy” loosely.

      I still do not see what was wrong with his “women binders.” You see, I am not in agreement with the main stream media or the Femin-whatever you call them, that are so “prevalent,” and yet, when I look around, I don’t see any of them. Anyway,

      At least Mitt R. wanted to help some women out in their career pursuits, nothing wrong with that…I applaud the man….as opposed to shredding women’s resume or deleting them upon receipt.

      Nice guy, Mitt R., he could have been my Pres back in the day, for sure.

      1. Instead, we have Pres Trump right now, who just hires and fires off the cuff of his sleeve on impulse and emotions.

        Fires men, fires women, dogs….Do they have a dog? If so, has he fired the dog, yet? Just sayin’

          1. The covert narcs use pets as a prop, put them in ridiculous clothes, and use them as a form of “control,” etc. —Think Amber Heard, and the Australia debacle.

            The overt narcs despise pets b/c they take away attention from them —Think someone who doesn’t want their “floors” scratched; or pet fur on themselves, or finds the whole idea to be a “waste of time” bc they have to cater to another “life form.” Talk about having no emotions.

            How can you not like pets? Dogs, cats, goats, birds.

          2. Pres being in love with Conan is better than nothing…at least the Pres has some semblance of “feelings.” I find some comfort in that….

            And I am not surprised he made that choice of the hero, Conan, a powerful, strong, well-trained dog.

            The overt narc types too, its also a control mechanism, like keep that dog off my wood floors….I don’t want your cat’s hair on my nice couch. Versus, covert narc is bringing woofy into Costco in a dress in the cart, claiming woofy is a “service dog.”

        1. George, and I, pffttt/psshh….George thinks I’m a gangsta bc I used the word, “girlfriend.”

          Hey George, your so-called libtard femin-nautta friend, aka Me, is pasty, like Casper, the ghost….can’t get a tan if I tried…

          ….but can and do use the word “girlfriend” whenever I feel like it…. ::flicks wrist and winks::

  3. In 1789, as “original intent,” the American Founders and the States generally restricted the vote to: Male, European, Age 21, Worth 50 lbs. Sterling/50 acres.

    In 1789, Americans generally did not allow women to vote.

    Now you know why.

    In The Year of Our Lord, 2020, America is hysterical, incoherent, chaotic and anarchical.

    The American Founders failed to codify restrictions on the vote as it did not enter their imaginations that vote dilution would be consciously suffered or tolerated and that hysteria and incoherence would ever be allowed prevalence and dominion by rational men – their fatal error.

    The American Founders established a republic, which Merriam Webster defines as “…a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote.”

    The 13th, 14th, 15th and 19th Amendments destroyed the rational, restricted-vote republic established by the American Founders. Those amendments were not only improperly ratified and antithetical but unconstitutional in that their effect was to “injure” * the Constitution. As President Lincoln issued the emancipation proclamation for his own purposes, illicitly causing the dissolution of free enterprises and confiscating private property (not to mention unconstitutionally suspending Habeas Corpus), so should President Trump, through executive orders and proclamations, nullify and expunge the deleterious 13th, 14th, 15th and 19th amendments for the purpose of restoring the American Republic…and serenity and intelligibility.

    *
    “…amendments desired…as will not injure the constitution,…”

    ” And if there are amendments desired, of such a nature as will not injure the constitution, and they can be ingrafted so as to give satisfaction to the doubting part of our fellow citizens; the friends of the federal government will evince that spirit of deference and concession for which they have hitherto been distinguished.”

    – James Madison, Proposed Amendments to the Constitution, June 8, 1789
    ___________________________________________________________

    The inverse of Tytler is that ONLY a restricted-vote republic CAN exist as a permanent form of self-governance.

    To wit,

    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the people discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy–to be followed by a dictatorship.”

    – Alexander Fraser Tytler

    Indeed, the singular American failure has been and is the judicial branch, with emphasis on the Supreme Court which has failed to support and decide for the “manifest tenor” of the Constitution.

    1. The only one here who has a “problem” with another gender is George.

      I think I finally came to the realization that George took my calling Pelosi “girlfriend” as a “camaraderie” term, instead of how it was used in a “sarcastic” state-of-mind.

      Let me be very clear, George, so the ‘tone’ is not lost. I have called men “girlfriend,” in a joking manner, I have called women “girlfriend,” also in a joking manner. I have, as well, used the term “girlfriend,” in a friendly sense, to mean, just that “friends.”

      Moreover, I like to use terms like “brother” to those who are not, in fact, my bloodline brothers….I call a cousin “brother,” bc he is like a brother to me.

      Additionally, I like “dude” and “bro,” and many other slang terms used by my generation.

      Unfortunately, on this b-law-g, the tone of a text shall be lost from time to time.

      But in case you want to know, I am one of those Independent, Swing Voters, who typically votes on “issues” and not based off the “person.”

      I have voted for both Dems and Reps alike.

      I found the one “upping” of Pelosi to be in bad form, which is why I made my original comment about her just looking left and looking right and smiling about it.

      The conduct of ripping up papers on the Floor was faux paus, IMHO.

      But so was Pres not shaking Merkel’s hand (she did, in fact, handle it appropriately, with her facial expression, or lack thereof) is also faux paus. But so is pushing other world leader’s out of the way to be in the middle of the picture…

      As a lot of parents say to their combative children, “Two wrongs, don’t make a right,”

      1. Oh yeah, I almost forgot my two favorite Pres faux paus moments:

        Throwing towels to hurricane victims, like a child, at an amusement park. Trump has never been through a major hurricane and lived to tell the tale of water flooding in the house and half a roof and looters.

        And then of course, his making fun of mentally and physically disabled persons at a rally. I mean, if he wants to pick on someone on his level, fine. A man, or a woman, no problem. But disable people? I mean, really? Really? Tone deaf, Pres? It’s like having to tell a Bully on the playground to pick on someone their own size.

        1. It is incoherent for women to obtain the vote in a nation without people.

          It is incoherent for women to obtain the vote in and dominion over a nation that no longer exists.

          Women hate women and the attendant duties of womanhood.

          It is irrational for women to become men.

          The American fertility rate is in a “death spiral.” The faux American population is imported of hyphenates. Women are the true misogynists who hate sufficient pregnancy, delivery and sufficient nurturing to create a population of Americans sufficient to defend and grow the nation. The most egregious traitors to America are its women who have failed in their duty to their nation to make its population.

          The 19th Dumbmendment is a death warrant for America. Women don’t need to vote. The American Founders saw no need for women to vote. Women need to make the population which is exponentially dwarfed by those of its potential enemies in Asia, the Indian subcontinent and elsewhere. In 100 years, there won’t be an American left in America after its fundamental transformation.

  4. “If the Speaker believed that the President was using drugs, she has a duty to address the matter…”

    How? The President doesn’t recognize Congressional authority.

    I watched you testify that the Democrats should have pursued their subpoena authority and such through the judiciary, which could take years. Is that what you’d recommend if the Speaker is concerned that Trump’s abusing drugs?

    1. It is from the Harry Reid playbook when he lied about Romney not paying taxes. His response when confronted about lying was “ He didn’t win did he”.

  5. Peelotsea is ugly. Too old for all that makeup. Too dumb to be in charge. Too smelly to be near to. End of the Democratic Party is here due to her and the queers.

  6. Nancy Pelosi is a bitter nasty person. She has miscalculated every step of the way. She has fallen into Trumpsyndrom – She mumbles, can’t put together a sentence, not coherent and if any one is on Drugs she should look in a mirror. She should resign and retire.

  7. First, I’m not a Republican, haven’t voted for a Republican since the 80s and have been NeverTrump since before he was a bundler for Hillary’s Senate campaign.

    Clearly, Trumps base is filled with crazy people and they’d drive anyone crazy.

    But they are as rational as a logic text compared to the TDS victims on this thread.

    Good Lord Democrats! Stop complaining and no,I ate someone who MAYBE has a shot at winning—if you’ve got any!

    1. You ‘ate someone’ who maybe has a shot at winning? Why’d you do that? You a cannibal or something?

      1. Got it, William Walsh. At this rate the Democrats may as well eat their nominees for lunch, because they ain’t got a winner in the bunch. Mayor Pete? Can ANYONE see fresh-faced boy mayor dealing with world leaders like Xi and Putin? Talk about watching someone be eaten alive.

        1. seems like nobody understands why mayor pete has tremendous backing from money

          he is weak, that’s why. weak, but plausible.

          that’s why they elevated Obama over Hillary,. That and the fact that Obama would be stronger in the general election

          but underneath that, Hillary was strong. I dont mean strong in any lame feminist way, I mean literally strong in will, and strong in resources, most of all, her deep knowledge and connections in decades of American and international politics.

          I dislike Hillary but I respect her. The billionaire backers who call more shots in the Dem party than people realize, did not trust her strength. It’s why the picked Obama, who was charming for the average voter, but weak in politics. Super inexperienced. However, this is not to say that “billionaires” are every one group with undivided schemes. They are diverse. Certainly some remained behind her to this very day,. when she appears to be retiring into the role of a more passive role.

          Now, to come up with someone to beat Bernie, but remain under control– unlike Bernie who probably is beyond their actual control, I’ll give him that– but that had to look hard to find a guy even more inexperienced than Obama, even weaker, but a plausible candidate for the general election. They found him in Mayor Pete. But he may yet lose to Bernie, and whomever, will probably lose to Trump. Pete will be more viable in 2024 if he doesn’t screw up somehow. In my hypothesis, and that’s all it is, Im just guessing, but in my guessing, his main job is just to beat Bernie. No, they don’t like Bernie, and it doesn’t take much to understand why. He really is a socialist! Not just faking it.

          Here’s another similarity. Obama was black, but not really like a black dude. Pete is gay, but not really very gay like a gay dude. You would not know he was gay if he hadn’t said so. So he has the “minority” box checked, but without being offensive. That kind of calculation is being made, you can be sure of it.

          Back to weakness in a President. They don’t need to be willful. In fact nobody in the “Deep State” wants a willful POTUS. they want a guy who takes advice from the experts and elevated Pentagon brass, the CIA geeks, the State Department wonks, etc. They HATE a strong willed guy like Trump. Whether he’s producing results or not, they HATE guys like that.

          That’s why they didn’t like JFK. Came from too strong a family base. Was genuinely popular and really believed he was powerful. Moved hard into Vietnam, but maybe was going to turn around and move out. Most of all, after the botched Bay of Pigs event, he had the gall to fire the head of the CIA. Or as the record says, “Dulles, Cabel, and Bissel were all forced to resign over it.” in so many words. And properly so because in fact they absolutely did botch the Bay of Pigs.

          Of course we wonder to this day if the ex CIA guys didn’t turn around and fire him. and the geeks like Brennan are trying to execute that play even again today against the powerful and willful Donald J Trump.

          Now LBJ was powerful but in the most underhanded, sneaky conniving ways possible. The perfect front guy to cooperate with the covert powers and their agendas at the time. Just not popular with the people! And then Nixon was popular and powerful, and we see where that got him.

          The “Deep State” is very real but it is not one monolithic thing, and behind the army of bureaucrats, stands their paymasters. That is the Deepest state, and it is a plutocracy.

          1. She’s a megalomaniac whose cupidity is extraordinary. No clue why you’d ‘respect’ her.

            1. History is full of megalomaniacs who move human events in ways that saner folks simply can’t do.

              I suppose I would respect Captain Ahab or the Great Khan too, if I had to meet them.

    2. You must be Pelosi with a false name to jumble mumble all that into nothing.

  8. Here’s the truth: the Democrats, by and large, are unscrupulous crooked conniving people who will use any means to gain and hold onto power. They don’t care. They lie because their media allies let them. They cheat because they can get away with it. They use cut throat methods and tactics and they simply get away with it. As Turley said, there is ‘deafening silence’ from ANYONE on the Democrat side of the aisle speaking out. If ANY one of them steps out and breaks rank, they will endure the wrath of Pelosi’s totalitarian rule by threat and intimidation. The Democrats are ruled by fear. And possibly tire irons in parking lots.

    Republicans are the good guys in this arena. No question.

    1. And with Trump, who knows how to play THEIR game better than they do, the Democrats have finally met their match.

      For this reason alone, I will do everything I can to reelect Trump in 2020.

    2. Which makes me wonder why they continue to remain in the party, unless they have selfish motives and/or are content being grossly underinformed and misguided.

    3. anonymous don’t get sucked into reaction. The Democrat party voter ranks are not as awful as they seem to you. The leadership yes probably is, i would agree.

      The average voters are usually people with family ties to the party who don’t look into politics very deeply. guess what, a lot of Republicans are that way too.

      Democrat voters are in general, our fellow Americans, who deserve our civility and respect, even when their despicable leadership in Congress does not. They’re our brothers, our sister, our countrymen, and we welcome them to help us continue the great things being achieved in America under the leadership of the President, Donald J Trump, who is a president for all Americans, even those who complain about him.

      Now I can understand why maybe 20 million or so illegal aliens don’t like him, but Americans will have to chose do they elevate their interests above those of our national family, or not?

      1. Thank you Mr. Kurtz! I should have been clear: I was talking specifically about Democrat elected officials, the corrupt DNC party leadership, and that group NOT the electorate, not our fellow voters. Unless of course, we are talking about the Nutchacha’s of the world 😉

        1. Nuthatch is what i call a partisan, that is to say, a low level flunky out to impress somebody with her jive talk.

          Definitely NOT leadership. and NOT representative of the average Democrat party member, who is just a normal person and not a raving harridan.

          1. You’re describing Peter Shill, who is a transmission belt for talking points but not otherwise manifestly pathological. I have Peter Shill’s in my family. The function from day to day.

            Take and inventory of Natacha’s mode of expression, the substantive content of what she says (recycled over and over from one post to the next) and the fact she’s tried to pass herself off as a lawyer and nurse. You remember the character Albert Teskowitz in Bonfire of the Vanities and public defender for Herbert 92x Cantrell? “Well, I try not to mention that subject. You get him going and it’s an hour out of your life”. Imagine yourself as Natacha’s attorney (perhaps doing some work for the legal aid society). Another disability claim, another landlord-tenant dispute (complicated by her receipt of section 8 vouchers), another small claims suit arising from some fit she threw in a diner, another malpractice suit contra her previous attorney, &c.

            1. there was a couple or so girls in law school who were what we now call SJWs who never ceased with their rantings…. i have no clue what happened to them, except they didn’t become judges and as far as I know not even real lawyers. I am not tuned into their sort of “career track”

              the legal aid lawyers out here in flyover actually arent noxious chatterboxes, some of them are actually decent people doing constructive things to help poor folks who have solid cases,. they cherry pick cases just like regular lawyers do. they are probably even more aggressive at turning cases down. they have budgets and their admins measure tangible results. and they flog those results to their donors, who are mostly just working lawyers, not bigwigs, and who without tangible measurable casework being done, would ignore them.
              but again regional differences matter; probably out on the coasts they are full of mischief.

              what rubric of success a chatterbox like nutchatch functions under, i have no clue

          2. Meant to add, Mr. Kurtz, that it is the Democrat leadership, the Democrat Congresspeople, the Democrat elected officials who not only LOATHE Trump and resist Trump, and want to destroy Trump…but they also communicate utter contempt for the voters who support Trump. Speaker Pelosi does not understand what the voters understand: their (Dem leadership) contempt is palpable TO THE VOTERS! The elected Democrats in Congress are displaying nothing but their seething contempt for the American people, the Deplorables as they call us, who put Trump in office…. and who will reelect Trump to four more years. What the Democrats in office fail to realize is that many of those voters they insult and have contempt for are actually registered Democrats and Independents. So Dems are not only the party of chaos and corruption right now, they are the party of stupidity as well. It is on full display for anyone watching to see. The Democrat Party is a mess and they DESERVE to lose it all: House, White House, Senate, Supreme Court….all of it.

  9. I think it’s a strategy. Trump gave a fantastic SOTU. Something like 82% of Independents liked it.

    Pelosi wants the media focused on her so people quickly forget how awesome the SOTU was.

  10. Hmmm. Several columns in a row about Pelosi’s behavior with just cursory nods toward Trump. Totally living in ‘yeah, but emails’ territory. Truth is, if Trump hadn’t been progressively being Trump in that “press conference” yesterday he would’ve been walked out and put under observation at a hospital,.

    Much more interesting to me is the hypocrisy running rampant of late. Republicans basically being willing to impeach Obama over wearing a brown suit. Democrats turning Romney into this wildly courageous hero (after shredding him in 2012) for just doing the right thing that literally every other person in the Senate should’ve done.

    Even more interesting is why this all hits so deeply. Things are not good on the American government front and we all know it.

    First step to dealing with a problem is knowing it’s become a problem.

    1. i agree the American government is stressed. Complex why,

      I didn’t vote for the Republicans in either 8 or 12. I did NOT vote for Obama, I just left that space blank. Same a lot of other federal offices. I never much liked where the GOP at the national level meandered from Bush I onwards. Until Trump!

      Why i liked Trump

      a) fair trade not free trade. revitalize industrial policy over financial-ism.
      b) restrict illegal immigration
      c) de-confliction with Russia policy, and a less interventionist foreign policy in the middle east.

      Maybe people don’t like Trump’s antics, but he’s delivering for me as a voter on these policies.

      NONE of those three policies are really a matter of any ideological left right spectrum.
      Obama and every other Democrat president before him maintained the national borders, overall, whatever the failures
      and Republican amnesty of Reagan was as big a gift as illegals ever received from any POTUS for example.

      It was Bill Clinton that signed NAFTA

      it used to be Republicans who engaged in Russophobia, not Democrats.

      Democrat leadership should face the reality they’ve drifted too far from the national interests of the American people, slid into feckless globalism and non-stop rhetorical demobilization of legacy population, in favor of the lumpen hordes in the big cities.

      However, policy doesn’t seem to matter much anymore to them.

      I’ve been talking about policy here for years, Democrats here aren’t much interested in policy conversations either. It’s just GET TRUMP! This is not a policy it is a program.

      1. I actually agree with some of Trump’s de-intervention ism too. Wish he could work on his tact with it. And his timing.

        Friend of mine who just retired as career State Dept was dealing with the Hungarians on some refugee prison issues and he ran into a first — the Hungarians saying ‘yeah, we don’t have to listen to you because you’re putting kids in jail’. Now, I know that didn’t begin with Trump, but his glee in making things harsh as they are from a PR perspective doesn’t make things easier on the ground for people trying to weed through the policy. No pun intended. Lol.

        And trade, again, Trump could use some tact (and knowledge). I’ve ventured a good bit into the Soybean Oil market for a long time and I can say it’s been going through some interesting shifts. The night market is the one that really moves now. Why? Because where soybean trade has shifted as a result of tariffs is to ‘foreign’ markets. South Americans came out ahead on that one. So did the Russians. Used to be crop reports could blow up a market in the day market here, not so much anymore. Favorable fundamentals that should move prices will have a short uptick that doesn’t last long.

        Granted things really started diving in 2013 due to a huge glut in the market. Kicked the monthly stats into last third of a head and shoulders top. But Obama pedaled hard to reverse that (without relying on tariffs) and was able to do it to a large degree. Since Trump took office, the only good news has been in the farm bailout packages that rally the market for a bit (in a rally now since the summer actually) but the turn around is written. We can see it on the wall. Next up the writing is on the floor. Market rallies for a bit, then when it realizes that they really have lost those U.S. contract deliveries for good, it turns back down…

        And that’s not to mention the fact the farm stimulus’ have totaled up to twice what Obama’s stimulus was in 2009. Those combined with the tax break package are literally blowing up deficits.

        Now, I know that’s not the only reason. Yes, Medicare has to be dealt with. And as someone who, in my previous career ruined my hip (well, that and tearing my labrum playing basketball in college) and couldn’t afford surgery due to not being able to afford the right insurance (literally dislocated my hip every single time I put my shoes on for 2 years)…well, hell, I wouldn’t be pissed if people could actually afford health insurance, however we get there.

        So I guess my thoughts on Trump are that I can see why people liked some of his willingness to a) blow up existing structures, at least rhetorically and philosophically, and b) take a look at long standing interventionalism in a new way could be refreshing….

        But on the down side, actually from having some knowledge of how Trump worked in NY, it was clear that his lack of knowledge of Washington when he came in was going to make him a perfect Trojan Horse for getting rolled on any number of fronts….

        We shall see how it all shakes out. Trump is certainly the straw that stirs the drink. It seems history will probably look at him more for the reaction and aftermath of his administration than for what he did in Washington. It might do him a huge favor to lose in November because he’s certainly set the table for a sizable economic collapse. Supply siding has the fall already built in the model, Trump is doing it on steroids. He’d almost be better off being able to peace out and comment from the cheap seats in the next cycle.

        1. I have been expecting a down-turn in the economy and capital markets as a natural part of the business cycle for years.

          blaming it all on any president, of either party, is foolish. likewise, is attributing the successes of hundreds of millions of people, to one man

          but that’s what they are stuck with so they ride the success and have to shoulder blame, in spite of the complexity of the economy

          we can see that monetary policy which is set by an independent institution, the Fed, is the biggest factor in government where the economy is concerned

          but considering that the nations all seem to engage in similar sorts of monetary policy, that too, perhaps is not as big a factor as it may seem

          I am without a clue for why the capital markets respond the way they do. we are at the front end of a pandemic which is decimating the PRC economy with the biggest physical quarantine in history and nobody seems to notice. Brexit happend and nobody seemed to notice. bad news or good news both make markets go up.

          commodities prices are perhaps less unrealistic and more responsive to facts than equities markets,
          for example you can see that copper price reacted strongly to coronovirus outbreak

          http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/copper/1-month/

          but I don’t pretend to be an expert in predicting either. some of my favorite “forecasters” have been consistently wrong for year after year too. but remember the adage:

          the trend is your friend, until, it ends

          1. Exactly. Trick is to realize when it ends since it doesn’t always leave calling cards. My cousin’s thing is seemingly unrelated price shocks. Looking forward to the article.

          2. The trick is to have the discipline to dollar-cost-average into an exceedingly low-cost S&P 500 Index Mutual Fund with funds that will not be needed for about a decade and not touch it come heck or high water, while you go sit on the beach with a Mai Tai and a lovely senorita. Index funds have no human error or expiration – they have no humans. Sometimes a small compromise is better than rewards with risk. Alternatively, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    2. I missed the impeachment hearings, the impeachment, and the Senate trial of Obama that must have happened in the gospel according to Elvis.
      Also, I didn’t see members of Congress (among others) calling for Obama’s impeachment before, or soon after, he was inaugerated.

      1. That’s because he didn’t do anything worthy of impeachment. Trump did, does, and will continue to do so. His entire business model is impeachment worthy. Fine if you’re shaking people down in NY, not so much in Washington. Lot more hoops to jump through in D.C.

  11. Turley expects decorum and respect of traditions to be afforded to a chronic habitual liar whose entire “presidency” is illegitimate and will forever be marred by the fact that he cheated his way into office with the help of a hostile foreign power. The help he was given was in the form of lies about his opponent directed by his campaign based on sensitive internal polling information. He is not entitled to be respected because the office he occupies was obtained fraudulently. That is what Trump will never understand: the mere fact that his fat ass managed to get into our White House doesn’t mean we have to overlook what a deficient and unqualified loser he is. We don’t have to accept him, we don’t have to respect him because of the title he stole for himself and most Americans never have and never will. He’s not legitimate.

    There has never been a POTUS who obtained the presidency in this manner, or who was more vulgar, profane, vindictive or arrogant. You’d think that the fact that he was under impeachment would cause him, at minimum, to refrain from uttering the pack of lies he told, especially his deceitful bragging about the economy, or at least not lie about his predecessor, but that wasn’t the case. You’d think he could at least behave at a prayer breakfast, but he just couldn’t. The cameras were on. The narcissism was in full bloom. I don’t know how anyone could look at this immoral train wreck and not feel repulsion. He actually took issue with Jesus’s gospel from the Sermon on the Mount on loving one’s enemies. He actually accused Nancy Pelosi of blasphemy. He’s actually taking on Mitt Romney for voting to impeach based on taking his oath before God seriously.

    In addition to a rendition of lies about the economy and his taking credit therefor, the SOTU was a vainglory dog and pony show, complete with performances by a 100-year-old Tuskeegee Airman, a single black mother, a made-for-TV reunion of a soldier with his family and awarding the Presidential Medal of Freedom to one of the most despicable persons ever to use the airwaves. This performance was disgusting to anyone who is a patriot. Nancy should have thrown the pieces of his speech in his face. Turley feels she should have treated this document with respect, but I disagree: doing nothing would lend credence to the heap of lies he just told and his deceitful attacks on Barak Obama. Lies are not entitled to respect. Neither is one who cheated his way into the White House. America was not founded on lies or narcissism.

    And, for you Trumpsters out there when viewing his victory laps–bear in mind that 48 U.S. Senators found him guilty. That is not insignificant, and is anything but vindication. It is certainly not cause for bragging. Even those who voted to acquit admitted they knew he was guilty. Poor stupid Susan Collins said she thought he had learned his lesson and wouldn’t do it again. Lamar Alexander agreed he was guilty but felt that the voters should handle it, not Congress. Bill Clinton apologized for his conduct after his impeachment was over. Trump continues to insist that he did nothing wrong, and is now making up a list of the people he’s going after. And, for you Trumpsters, that’s OK. And, I agree with Nancy: when he has trouble making his lips move, that can be a sign of using a tranquilizer. There are times when he appears to be under chemical restraint.

    1. blah blah blah

      Don’t you understand people are sick of this?

      The biggest quarantine in human history happening in China, many more people with coronavirus and dead, and all the US news can talk about it Trump bad and Pelosi wonderful!

      Brexit actually happened in the meantime too! Barely a whiff of that in the lying press.

      Momentous events, ignored in favor of foregone conclusions.

      1. On the contrary, Mr. Kurtz. Natacha’s robotic repetition of the same talking points get gain more and more power after hundreds of uses.😴😴😴

    2. Barack is spelled with a ‘c’ doofus. And from the election day to inauguration day and beyond is Trump’s economy, not Barack’s. Credit due Trump. Barack Obama was a puppet and a fraud on the American people hellbent on implementing his destructive agenda. Now we have a real president working hard on OUR behalf FOR the good of the country. Most people are not as stupid and gullible as you are Natacha. Turn off Rachel Madcow before your brain is totally gone.

    3. “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.”

      – Albert Einstein
      _____________

      Who knew Einstein had met NUTCHACHA?

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