Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) yesterday called for the denaturalization of Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) after a controversial speech was uncovered in which she pledged to put Somalia first in Congress and her work. While I have been a long critic of Omar, her views expressed in this speech are not only protected speech, but they are not a basis for denaturalization.
In the video, Rep. Omar is shown declaring that “We as Somalians we love each other. There are areas of friction that led us to kill each other, but in reality, we are an organized society — brother and sisters, people of the same blood.”
She then goes further into where their loyalties lie: “People who know they are Somalians first, Muslims second, who protect one another, come to each other’s aid and to the aid of other Muslims too.” She assures the audience that the U.S. government will “only do what Somalians in the U.S. tell them to do…They will do what we want and nothing else. They must follow our orders and that is how we will safeguard the interests of Somalia,” she said.
She further declares that “For as long as I am in the U.S. Congress, Somalia will never be in danger,” she said, telling Somalians to “sleep in comfort, knowing I am here to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the U.S. system.”
The speech has led to calls for expulsion from Congress and denaturalization. Neither would be appropriate, in my view.
The speech is clearly protected under the First Amendment. Omar is not advocating imminent violent or criminal conduct. She is expressing her personal priorities and loyalties. The omission of an expression of loyalty to the United States has left many irate and insulted. However, it is still protected speech. Indeed, burning an American flag and condemning America are protected forms of free expression.
Omar was born in Mogadishu, Somalia in 1982 and her family fled the country during the Somali Civil War. After living in refuge camps, the family was given asylum in the United States. The family would eventually move to Minnesota where Omar achieved the extraordinary distinction of becoming the first Somali-American legislator elected to Congress in 2017.
She has remained a controversial figure due to her statements on Israel and other subjects.
The growing calls for denaturalization are disconnected from governing constitutional and statutory standards.
The authority to denaturalize is implied in the language of Article I, Section 8, Clause 4:
“[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States…”
Denaturalization is largely based on the granting of citizenship based on fraudulent or false representations. In Johannessen v. United States, 225 U.S. 227, 241 (1912), the Court held that “[a]n alien has no moral nor constitutional right to retain the privileges of citizenship if, by false evidence or the like, an imposition has been practiced upon the court, without which the certificate of citizenship could not and would not have been issued.” A failure “to comply with any of these conditions renders the certification of citizenship ‘illegally procured,’ and naturalization that is unlawfully procured can be set aside.”
Others can condemn Rep. Omar’s comment, but they cannot strip away her citizenship due to her exercise of free speech.
The greatest disconnect in these calls is that Omar would be stripped of her citizenship for exercising the very right that defines us as citizens.
We are loyal Americans because we are bound by a type of covenant of faith in our Constitution, the commitment to each other that we will fight for the rights of our neighbors regardless of whether we agree with their values or views.
This country is not endangered by a lack of patriotism or even a lack of loyalty in others. It is threatened by allowing our anger to blind us to the denial of the very thing that defines us.
KNOW YOUR ENEMY OR SUCCUMB
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
– Sun Tzu, The Art of War, 475 – 221 B.C.
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Ilhan Omar is a direct and mortal enemy of the American thesis of freedom and self-reliance, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, actual patriotic Americans, and America.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls
I kind of wish this had not been published. It is sure to bring about a new round of anti-Trump media articles and political propaganda.
(whether you like his personality or not)
@Anon
Yup. If they steal it this time there will be damage. Nobody wants that, and we will all be sorry that some people are so stupid, but we are dealing with a dem regime that will never, ever play nice or let go of power, just like the Nazis/socialists who have inspired them. Trump will win, and I was personally hoping I would have someone else to vote for, but c’est la vie. Voting for Trump. So will most of us. Just as we did in 2020. The rest could be great or catastrophic, and I now have zero faith in the blue. Nothing. Nada. JFK was an anomaly, representative of his time, and he was killed for having the temerity to punk the aristocracy of the time, whatever his personal foibles. People that have encoded that into dogma are very confused, IMO.
Tinfoil hat me thinks Biden might present himself as Lincoln, grant amnesty by referencing slavery, and 30 mil people could easily become 150 mil overnight with our reunification laws; replete with repeated Civil War reference from the media, and try to take control of the government by fiat. He did ask Congress for unilateral power (emergency power) if they want to address the border. This election is going to be a sheet storm. And it will reverberate for a good while afterward. We should all prepare ourselves. Riots are inevitable. if you live in a blue city, get ready to reap what you voted for, because it’s coming in a very undeniable way.
James,
I do not disagree.
I am hoping for a great big nothing no matter who wins.
ARM will be all in a tizzy if Trump wins, declaring “This is the end of Democracy!” Kinda like all those other dire predictions they made in 2016 that amounted to nothing.
ARM will sigh a great relief if Biden wins, declaring “Democracy has been saved!”
But just in case, invest in chickens, PMs (precious metals), ammo, and your personal health.
I don’t disagree, her speech is protected, and there is no such thing as ‘de-naturalization’, that was sheer stupidity on the part of DeSantis.
But –
As a member of Congress, I personally am not comfortable with what she represents. This is going to sound absolutely awful, but: we have gotten to the point where these immigrant enclaves are basically large communities of people who have come here with no desire whatsoever to assimilate, and are working by proxy to deal with things in the countries they presumably left behind when they came to America hoping for something better. These communities have zero interest in ever becoming American – they hope they can change their home countries utilizing the freedom we have her. It’s cognizant dissonance for me too, why wouldn’t someone do that? Except that they have no intention of ever returning, they employ our benefits and resources, and do f*** all for this country itself. And to me, that is not ok. This would all be very different if she were not an elected official to our American government, and I have just about had it with the democratic party. They are irredeemable flotsam, and likely the biggest threat to actual human prosperity on earth.
The fact of the matter is that she is being by a Somalian community large enough in America that this all seems perfectly plausible and reasonable to her. She is part of the Justice Dems, and let us pray that they are the next to bankrupt, they have been a cancer on our system. They positively LIVE to find loopholes they can exploit for their own selfish aims at the expense of everyone else that is just trying to live. I’m sure their lawyers stay up nights doing exactly that. Stop voting dem. The party of JFK is dead and buried. Really, it is dead. You are voting for a ghost that will never, ever come back. You are the ones stuck (firmly. That ain’t mud, it’s bedrock) in the past.
It is basically theft. I’m sorry that America can’t fix everything that is wrong on earth. What these folks seem to fail to realize is that we are also a nation and a home with citizens we need to look out for. I used to BE an activist, and I have no patience left for this boosheet. None. This is not sustainable, and there is no realistic way for one nation to force another nation to behave. These millennial congresspeople are the worst embarrassment we have ever endured. VOTE THEM OUT. Our current government is so corrupt and frankly, ridiculous, the founders might just come back to life in defiance. But that it could be so.
We must defend her natural right to free speech, protected by our constitution as a citizen of this country. That is 100% an American principle. That being said, for far too long, we’ve ignorantly allowed hostile actors to overtake every vital institution in our country by stealthy actions, which we did not recognize. These actors had to use stealth, because they had no protective cover to openly declare their hostility towards everything that defined what it is to be an American. But today, Omar is simply stating the obvious; “We are here, Our loyalties are not to the survival of this republic. And this ridiculous thing you call the constitution and rule of law will protect Us, as We destroy this country from within.”
So yes, it is obviously a suicide pact. Now is the time to amend it.
Omar is but a symptom of a global, existential threat to all western cultures. This speech by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò is absolutely a must read.
We are now facing an epochal threat, in the form of a coup d’état perpetrated by the globalist elite. This coup d’état has only recently appeared in full evidence, but the rambling statements of the participants in the Davos Forum that has just ended are the result of a subversive project carried out for decades. A project that is based on lies, blackmail, and corruption.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/archbishop-vigano-denounces-globalist-elites-coup-detat-national/
Is there a process to revoke citizenship when someone displays intent to destroy their new country from within? Yes, there is. Return them to their home country via parachute with nothing but the clothes on their back. Then, let them explain at the US Consulate or Embassy in their home country – remember, they’ll claim to be US citizens – why they need protection from their ‘brothers and sisters’ and a ride back.
JAFO, we should not continue to try to fight this war under rules the Regime (and that’s what I will call all of those trying to advance an anti-American, anti-western ideology) has been using against us. Ironically, the constitution, separation of powers and the rule of law has been and will continue to be their most lethal weapon. Not because they “support and defend it”. But because “we” will. It reminds me of the rules of engagement our military and law enforcement are required to follow. Bad actors don’t give a f*ck about rules, but they know we have to follow them. So when the Regime goes after our civil liberties in ways that are obviously unconstitutional, they know we will respond in ways that are predictably constitutional. That process takes time. And time is a precious resource the Regime needs to do lasting damage. The border crisis is a perfect example. Roe v Wade another. Gun control. Free speech. Asset forfeiture. Energy. Debt. Foreign “wars”. Education. And this goes on and on.
So let’s use their rules of engagement against them. House Republicans should vote to remove her and any of these Leftists pushing anti-American policies out of Congress. I can imagine many other “things” to be done that will put them on defense. Then let them go begging the Judicial branch to save them for once.
Olly, a couple of thoughts…first, with respect, I dissent in part. It’s long past time to start playing by The Left’s own rules. As John says, Turnabout is indeed, “fair” play, there’s nothing to be gained by continuously turning the other cheek and most of all, “There’s nothing a leftist hates more than being held to their own standards.” -Derek Hunter
I would agree IF the House Republicans had the stomach and time to fight a “fair” fight and started removing self-declared, foreign fighters from within Congressional walls. However, I don’t think they would have enough votes to get the job done today, tomorrow or anytime before the next election; that’s a non-starter with this group. Remember this too, Team Red *also*, as much as their Blue Brothers, wanted nothing to do with The People’s Constitutionally-elected ‘choice’ seven years ago when the House had a much larger majority, including the gains by riding on Trump’s coattail promises to roll back, if not outright undo, ACA. But just as in many times past, the ‘reds’ couldn’t be bothered with fulfilling their own campaign promises, let alone The People’s directive by adding to their numbers in the House. They bought the RussiaGate lie hook, line and sinker as soon as it was proclaimed. After all, it was their political friends making the accusations against “The Outsider” who deserved nothing but contempt for beating them at their own game. Instead, the Republicans closed ranks with their friends, Team Blue, for no other reason than to oppose both Trump (even after decades of both Partys membership posing with him in pictures after his campaign donation checks to them cleared), his proposed policy changes, and everyone who voted in the affirmative for him/his proposals or, as in my case, expressly against the unelected Cabal that’s been running DC and its elected political minions since at least the end of WW2, perhaps as far back as Wilson. They *still*, as a Party, do NOT want his voice heard in their alleged, sacred halls, the halls The People themselves dare not enter.
With that in mind, my second thought. I’m on the record for being a big believer that people should practice what they preach, lead by example, ‘do onto others…’, etc., etc. So when anyone believes the proverbial grass is greener ‘over there’, then I encourage that person, every time, to go ‘there’ and be happy living with their own kind and other like-minded people. Refusniks not need worry about being extinguished, disappeared, imprisoned or litigated into financial ruin (turning them into martyrs), they can just be ‘helped’ in achieving their Dreams by being relocated, albeit involuntarily, to their Promised Land(s) where they’ll be among no one but friends, nodding with smiling faces.
As always, best to you and yours!
JAFO, that’s a lot to digest. I’m not sure what *dissent* you have, perhaps it’s trusting Republicans to have the stones to do anything, which I don’t have any. Perhaps it’s in the scope of what needs to be done, which is why I said I can imagine many other “things” to be done that will put them on defense. But I will say, if there were a way to boot the lot of them out of every institution where they exist and send them to any nation that shares their Marxist/Communist ideology, then I believe a GiveSendGo campaign would get a ton of support for the cause. 😉
You ‘got it’, Olly. Team Red is only slightly less corrupt than the Blues. Both put Party before country but Democrates simply plan farther ahead in their Pinky and the Brain Final Solution endeavors. Republicans are always, *always*, playing catch up (on their best days) and tend to waste missed opportunities as soon as they fall into their laps. Taibbi has uncovered D’s detailed plans to thwart the will of The People should Trump win this fall and I’d bet ten bucks the R’s have no idea this is coming…
https://www.racket.news/p/is-the-electoral-fix-already-in
Toward the end: A final recommendation, which I make to you as a Pastor: do not give in to the mentality of the world, which would like to make you ashamed of your honesty, your rectitude, and your religion, as if they were defects to be hidden. It is rather dishonesty, moral corruption, selfishness, and vice that ought to be ashamed.
Hear hear. The whole globalist project is reminiscent of the National Institute of Coordinated Experiments (NICE) in C.S. Lewis’s 1945 novel, That Hideous Strength. In the story, NICE, located in England, was a front for spiritual evil, albeit dressed up as an institution for scientific advancement. Does that sound familiar?
P.S. I find it ironic that now the UK does have a NICE – the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence; I wonder if its namers ever read the Lewis book.
I haven’t read that book oldman. Thank you for the insight.
@Olly
Spot on. The global threat (as in globalists) is what at least 95% of us are asleep to. And that transcends nationality. People in European countries seem to be especially blind. Do we really need to have WWIII? Wouldn’t it be easier to just acknowledge, even if one wants something that isn;t necessarily ‘Right wing’, that our modern left, across the globe, are basically the old aristocracy and don’t know any better than you what is best for your life? do we really have to go back to feudalism (again – 15 minute cities are basically serfdoms, dictated to you by people that you did not elect)? We all need to wake up to the fact that the modern left is the Spanish Inquisition, they are the idiotic royalty of yore. Millennials and younger are too stupid and undereducated to realize this, but the rest of aren’t. i say again: if you will still be alive in 20 years, what do you think creates that future?Do you really believe it is a foregone conclusion with zero input from you? Do you think that teaching kids that will somehow help? Put down your booze, get off the meds, and throw away the ganja. You will not be dead in 20 years, but you will sure have to live in that world. Encounter your life as a salient person and do the right thing.
And re globalists – this is the zeitgeist that so many of you tools tried to point out in the past with your documentaries. WAKE UP and prve that you are not just sheep. the world does not need to go through this again.
James, your comments are always grounded in commonsense wisdom and clarity. They standout from much of the dialogue here and I greatly appreciate them.
@Olly
Very much agreed, but at least 50% of us, and nearly 100% of the under-40 are working for the exact. Opposite. Talking sense to them means precisely zero. They scream in Congress and pull fire alarms; their constituents are even more deficient. We are all going to have to participate, because if we do manage to turn the tide, it’ll be by a chin hair’s majority, believe me. In another 8 years that slender lead will no longer exist at all unless we act NOW.
Saying controversial things is as American as it gets. In this case I see this more as reassuring fellow Somalies as compared to being anti-American.
Calling for her ouster as an American is going nowhere and make one sound as unhinged as the other side. It is her right.
You want Omar gone from Congress? Convince her constituents or bring criminal charges.
Being a controversial politician is an American phenomenon. You may not like what is said, but someone must not mind. She is still in Congress.
You’re onto something there, but still, it seems that being a member of Congress, then pledging to subvert American interests to the interests of foreign nation . . . kind of stands in a category by itself. It is not your garden variety controversial political statement.
Absolutely
Whitney V California
Justice Brandeis
Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppressions of free speech and assembly. Men feared witches and burnt women. It is the function of speech to free men from the bondage of irrational fears. To justify suppression of free speech there must be reasonable ground to fear that serious evil will result if free speech is practiced. There must be reasonable ground to believe that the danger apprehended is imminent. There must be reasonable ground to believe that the evil to be prevented is a serious one. Every denunciation of existing law tends in some measure to increase the probability that there will be violation of it. Condonation of a breach enhances the probability. Expressions of approval add to the probability. Propagation of the criminal state of mind by teaching syndicalism increases it. Advocacy of lawbreaking heightens it still further. But even advocacy of violation, however reprehensible morally, is not a justification for denying free speech where the advocacy falls short of incitement and there is nothing to indicate that the advocacy would be immediately acted on. The wide difference between advocacy and incitement, between preparation and attempt, between assembling and conspiracy, must be borne in mind. In order to support a finding of clear and present danger it must be shown either that immediate serious violence was to be expected or was advocated, or that the past conduct furnished reason to believe that such advocacy was then contemplated. Those who won our independence by revolution were not cowards. They did not fear political change. They did not exalt order at the cost of liberty. To courageous, self reliant men, with confidence in the power of free and fearless reasoning applied through the processes of popular government, no danger flowing from speech can be deemed clear and present, unless the incidence of the evil apprehended is so imminent that it may befall before there is opportunity for full discussion. If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence. Only an emergency can justify repression. Such must be the rule if authority is to be reconciled with freedom. Such, in my opinion, is the command of the Constitution . . .
Moreover, even imminent danger cannot justify resort to prohibition of these functions essential to effective democracy, unless the evil apprehended is relatively serious. Prohibition of free speech and assembly is a measure so stringent that it would be inappropriate as the means for averting a relatively trivial harm to society.”
@John
Indeed. The people in a country have to care about that country first, though. A whole lotta people coming here since Obama just see it as a way to get something for nothing. Our annual export of wages to other countries is off the charts. That does matter; wealth recirculated into communities grows; sent elsewhere it doesn’t do anything but drain. You’d think leftist idiots would understand this, but a lot of them have trust funds, and it will never resonate. It starts more simply than what you describe, not to discredit your words, as that is accurate too. but it starts a whole lot simpler. i respect you and appreciate your contributions, but sometimes your comments have the flavor of a bubble.
I am libertarian – I actually support Open Borders. That is NOT the same as the lawless anarchy we have today.
I expect the president to enforce the law that is – not the law he wishes he had.
If I were elected president my job would be to enforce the law we have until I can get congress to chage the law to what I want.
i think that anyone that would go through hell to get here – is someone that we want.
That does not mean that I do not have problems with the Cartells sending foot soldiers into to populate their gangs in cities, or that I am unconcerned about criminals and terrorists.
Again I am a libertarian – not an anarchist.
Separately the US MUST have 2M immigrants per year to address our declining birth rates or standard of living will fall.
That is not an ideological argument it is a utilitarian one.
Next the actual FACT is that a larger population raises standard of living – There is excellent work on this by Julian simon
http://www.juliansimon.com/writings/Ultimate_Resource/
The fact that mass immigration is NET positive, does not mean that everybody benefits.
Immigration is a massive poolitical problem for democrats because the big loser is the democratic base.
Trump is incredibly successfully converting working class democrats to republicans.
As to what would I do in “libertopia”
Secure the border, let anyone in who is sponsored (subject to vetting). No limits. Sponsorship must be meaningful.
If you want to send money back to others – your business, that has been going on for centuries.
Yes, 100%. This is all exactly correct.
I would also not prioritize immigration enforcement against people who are diligently working an honest job. No ICE raids of workplaces. Concentrate on those who are committing crimes, or who are managing to sponge off the public. Enforce the border strictly, don’t let anyone in without the proper documents, because there’s no way to know who they are or what they intend. But once someone has successfully entered and is now working hard and showing that they are exactly the sort of person we want to immigrate, leave them alone.
Dear Prof Turley,
This all assumes Omar’s unabashed cultural/historical affinity with her Somalian kinfolk is somehow uniquely in conflict with U.S. national interests there.
As the Most American ™, if we continue going down the rabbit hole of accusing fellow U.S. citizens of displaced ‘American loyalties’, I have a whole host of people we can throw on that funeral pyre.
First, and foremost, at the beginning of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine (after a decade of Joe Biden’s personal involvement there) one would have been hard pressed to find any members of Congress without duel U.S./Ukraine flag pins on their lapel, if not draped in the Ukraine flag. Throughout most of 2022, whole cites would light up the night sky with Ukraine’s colors in unquestioned solidarity.
Quite frankly, I’m still in heated disagreement with family members and close friends over the conflict and how to resolve it – although far less now. It’s a festering, bleeding existential threat to U.S. national security imo.
Next, of course, is fast-expanding catastrophe unfolding in Gaza, Israel and the broader Mid East. Except, perhaps, for Omar and few other malcontents, there is no doubt where congress’ sympathy lies. For reasons beyond my understanding, Israel seems to be the only country in the world where there is no distinction at all with U.S. national security interests – where you are as likely to find Sen. Fetterman draped in an Israel flag singing hosannahs as you are Sen. Graham.
*because the world is round, it blows my mind.
Israel’s interests and the USA’s are naturally very closely aligned. They’re not always identical, but they are most of the time.
“No, Omar Cannot be Denaturalized on the Basis of her “Somalians First” Speech”. Who cares about that? Prosecute Omar for violation of the The Espionage Act of 1917.
How has she violated the espionage age ?
There is pretty good evidence that she made false statements on immigration forms to get her brother/husband into the country.
But I am not aware of an espionage act violation.
Speech is a protected right that cuts both ways. However, if there is concern about false statements or questionable circumstances, then this should exclude the individual from holding office, especially one where national secrets are discussed.
A politician lies??!!! If we rid ourselves of every politician or candidate that lies, both Houses would be empty.
Wouldn’t the concern be, not so much with lying, but with using a federal office to subvert American interests to the interests of another nation?
not-so-old: Amen.
(-not always actionable, but certainly intractable.)
Trump used his office to stop American aid to Ukraine. That aid was in the American interests, Trump used it for only his interests.
That sounds like a fairly routine difference of opinion on a question of foreign policy. It doesn’t sound at all like expressly pledging to prioritize another country’s interests over American interests.
If Omar is acting openly – within her powers as a representative – then the issue is up to her voters.
If she has secret dealings with Somali war loards and has gold bar stuffed into her mattress that would be different.
Sorry, but no. The criteria for federal office are in the constitution. Those are the ONLY criteria.
Omar does not need a security clearance to be a representative.
She would need one to serve on the Intelligence committee.
The constitution says otherwise. She’s over 25, she’s been a US citizen for over 7 years, and on the date of the last election she lived in Minnesota. That makes her eligible, and neither congress nor any state can add any further requirements.
Gov DeSantis is tapping into an issue that is sinking Biden’s poll numbers and driving Americans to support Trump. No DNC talking point, no DOJ/FBI/ Leftist District Attorneys or Special Prosecutors in GA, NY, Jack Smith, have stopped the hemorrhage of support Democrats fantasize they have. Even Hispanics and Blacks are dumping Democrats for Trump. It takes a special brand of imbecile to lose to someone like Donald Trump. Clearly, Democrats are ready, willing and able to out do Trump in being asinine.
Trolls, (Dennis, Bob, bug, sealioning Anonymous, Gigi, et al), no one would fault you for demanding from your paid handlers an increase in wages for asking you to look more idiotic than you normally do. Its a free country. Or you could retire to Somalia knowing Rep Ilhan Omar has your back. Send us postcards from “mostly peaceful” Mogadishu.
xoxo
😉
How unpopular is Joe Biden
Disapprove: 54.3% (cf. 30% in Jan 2021)
Approval: 39.2%
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
Immigration is driving support for Trump more than in 2016
https://abcnews.go.com/538/immigration-driving-support-gop-primary/story?id=106777173
There are two things occuring concurrently and overlapping.
First Biden is a failure as president. Only a few die hards here would argue otherwise.
Anyone with two brain cells to rub together should beat him.
Oh, and most of the time when I say “Biden” I mean the children/guardians that are the actual power in the White House Senior living center.
Biden’s competence is an issue to the extent that it is sad and sometimes funny, and it is useful to pile on left wing numnuts.
Gust as with Wilson a century ago – Biden is not running the show. We know what we will be electing if we re elect him.
The same cabal running things now.
It is that cabal that has failed – not the demented person shuffling in the Oval.
The next is that left wing nut lawfare is backfiring with people.
While MUCH of this is targetting Trump, it goes far beyond Trump and people are getting fed up with
lawless prosecutors, and lawless courts.
A deranged woman gets nearly $100m from Trump for highly dubious claims, in a kangaroo court, and NYPD officers are assaulted by illegal immigrants. That is not making people happy.
I think Abbot is pushing the constitution – but he is doing it against the lawlessness of this administration.
He has enough legal/constitutional cover to not outright lose and he is winning the battle for peoples trust.
Immigration is a massive issue in this election. But it is a multifaceted issue – not only is there the problem of something like 8M people in 3 years, but it ties back to the broad theme of far left lawlessness.
Trump is spending his life in court over nonsense. Most of the cases are failing spectacularly. Sometimes they fail spectacularly and STILL the left pulls it off.
Those on the left do not understand that their victories are defeats.
They have Turned Trump into a martyr.
At Trump rallies Trump says he is what is between this lawlessness and the people – and people KNOW he is right.
That the left is not just going after big name political enemies – but parents who are offended that their kids are reading porn in school.
They are going after catholics, People who buy bibles, or go to Cabella’s
And on and on.
Trump has said he is one indictment away from a landslide – and increasingly that appears correct.
Currently Trump will win the popular vote by 4M and the electoral college by 100pts.
Trump is over 50% in half of major polls. While Biden is dropping faster than Trump is rising.
While I keep mentioning Trump – this is only about Trump to the extent that Trump has chosen to put himself into the position of Marytr.
DeSantis and Halley and …. should be terrified about what is going on with Trump,
Because the left will do to that to ANY republicans – until it quits working.
Can DeSantis fight a well funded rape accusation from 30 years ago ?
DeSantis must have been in DC or NYC sometime – so that he could be accused and tried before hostile politically biased juries.
Now more than ever the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless, and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness, and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave, and pure, it is because the people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature. . . . If the next centennial does not find us a great nation . . . it will be because those who represent the enterprise, the culture, and the morality of the nation do not aid in controlling the political forces.
President James A. Garfield via OLLY
We need citizens who are less concerned about what their government can do for them, and more concerned about what they can do for the nation….It is my conviction that the fundamental trouble with the people of the United States is that they have gotten too far away from Almighty God.
President Warren G. Harding
https://www.azquotes.com/author/6246-Warren_G_Harding
“Now more than ever the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless, and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness, and corruption.”
Estovir, when the Constitution was signed, the government made a covenant with the people, but did the people have a set responsibility as well?
You might be interested in this week’s Parsha, Yitro. (Exodus 18:1 – 20:23;), in particular 19:5 (The Covenant)
Amen brother!
No, she cannot be denaturalized for her speech. She also lied on a federal form in connection with her fraudulent marriage to her bother. She could have been prosecuted for that, but not denaturalized. Her “parents” lied on their asylum papers when she first came to this country (she was not their daughter). Not sure if a child fraudulently brought into this country should be punished for something done by adults when she was a child, but it does render her presence in this country a fraud. At a minimum her asylum claim should be reconsidered given her actual parentage. (Was her father a war criminal?)
Either way, the real issue is that unchecked legal and illegal immigration should not be permitted to allow the creation of congressional districts where the majority are anti-American and have primary loyalty to a foreign state. Her presence should be Exhibit A in the failure of our current system. This cannot help but result in balkanization or worse yet tribalization. That is not the American melting pot I remember from School House Rock.
Not quite correct. She came her with her actual, real biological father, and no mother. Her mother went to the UK instead. But he lied about his name. That is not her fault; she was a minor and thus would not have been asked any questions, nor filled any forms, so she didn’t lie. And once she was naturalized her immigration status became irrelevant.
Not true.
Whether she committed the fraud, or it was done in her name, she can still lose citizenship and be deported.
The key issue is what that fraud was.
Lets say her father was a war criminal and he came here with his entire family.
He lied about himself and his family.
They can all be sent back… however, how realistic that would be is up in the air.
Jonathan: DJT is on the horns of a dilemma. Taylor Swift is at every Chiefs’ game cheering on her boyfriend, Travis Kelce, the Chief’s tight end. There is a conspiracy theory afloat that the Biden campaign is wooing Swift to endorse the President.
DJT supporters, like Sean Hannity, are warning Swift not to endorse Biden: “Does Taylor realize the guy that they want her to endorse is a kind of stumbling, bumbling mess, doesn’t have the energy to even give a 30-minute speech, let alone perform a three-hour concert like she does?”. Hannity accuses Swift of hating Republicans. Some of DJT’s allies are calling for him to conduct a “holy war” against the pop megastar–say on the day of the Super Bowl. By all indications that would be a huge mistake. Why? Swift has a huge fan base–53% of US adults are Swift fans. That’s about 137 million voting age adults. 55% of her fan base are “liberals” but 100 million of Republicans are also Swifties.
Anyone on this blog want to pick a fight with Taylor Swift? Go ahead, but be warned. Hell hath no fury like a Swiftie scorned!
This you car about ?
Frankly I have no idea how Swift dating Kelce has anything todo with Trump or politics.
But Swift is free to endorse anyone she wishes.
I do find it interesting that you seem to beleive that Swift fans are all thralls to Talyor Swifts whim.
That is offensive to those fans and to Swift.
Regardless, Who Taylor Swift is dating and who she might endorse is your idea of something consequential ?
My advice to Swift regarding politics is that unless your fans already heavily lean one way or the other that it is not inj any entertainers interest to risk alienating even 10% of their fan base.
That is the same advice I would give other entertainers as well as those in business.
Gun Power Coffee can afford to lean hard right – they are a niche company and if anything their political leanings grow their market
Starbucks would be wise NOT to take posittions on candidates or controversial issues.
But that is ADVICE – it is not law.
If Taylor Swift for whatever reasons wants to endorse Biden or Trump or RFK jr, or ….
She should do that
John Say,
Well said.
What is a “Swiftie” going to do? Put one of her songs on repeat? Oh! How that would hurt! /sarc
“DJT is on the horns of a dilemma”
Yes, when to invite Taylor and Kelce to the MAL post superbowl bash.
It frightens me to think that any adult citizen would allow the thoughts of this rather talentless icon of the brainwashed to influence their vote – of course, if you are a swift fan, perhaps it is obvious that you are not a critical thinker.
Whimsicalmama,
Wouldn’t that be an interesting and embarrassing historical footnote: Biden wins 2024 only after getting an endorsement from a pop singer who is famous for singing songs about picking the wrong guy.
Isn’t lying about your sham marriage on a federal immigration form a false statement as defined in 18 USC 1001 ???
Yes, it is. How is that relevant? You can’t cancel someone’s citizenship, let alone deport them, just because they committed a crime. You can’t even disqualify someone from Congress for it. If the statute is still running, you can prosecute them; if two thirds of the House thinks fit, they can vote to expel them. That is all.
And Congress has for well over a century taken the view that it can’t expel a member for any offense committed before the last election.
I fully support everyone’s 1stA right to say things from the intelligent, the thought provoking, to the silly and the absurd.
I wish everyone believed what you wrote.
Chuck Schumer says the same about his priorities being Israel’s Macher. Some foreign loyalties are more equal than others.
Why isn’t what she said a violation to the oath she took to the United States when she became a citizen? Why is it not a violation to her oath of office?
No where in what she said, did she say she would not defend the constitution of the untied states.
Further you can not violate an oath to DO something
by SAYING something.
Violating her oath would require her to DO something that violates the oath.
We have this problem with remarks by Trump (and democrats) all the time.
Salena Zito got Trump perfectly when she said
Trump supporters take what Trump says seriously buy not literally
Trump opponents take what Trump says literally but not seriously.
Rachel Maddow, an assortment of talking heads and many here foam at the mouth saying “Trump is going to be a dictator”
People with an actual brain KNOW what Trump was saying when he said he would be “dictator for a day”.
We KNOW that Trump was to be taken SERIOUSLY but not litterally.
That on Jan 21, 2025 there will be a long raft of Executive orders undoing as much of the lawless idiocy of the biden administration as possible.
Omar has perfected her version of coded messaging (under the auspices of virtue-signaling) into something more like devolution-signaling, i.e., the slow, subsurface but sequential intent to cause decline in American values and undermine its position in the world. The philosophical Marquis de Condorcet (Condorcet’s jury theorem) would take note (Diogenes will hopefully understand my point), because, in olden days, people longed to come to Flagship America to enjoy its virtued principles and protections, manifest in the values of its majority population. Increasingly, a growing minority of various marginal factions long to become the majority–not here to bask in our principled greatness, but to undermine it and change it to their liking.
(devolution-signaling being much more sly and insidious than revolution-signaling)
…..because, in olden days, people longed to come to Flagship America to enjoy its virtued principles and protections, manifest in the values of its majority population.
“She would’ve been a good woman,” said The Misfit, “if it had been somebody there to shoot her every minute of her life.”
— Flannery O’Connor (A Good Man Is Hard to Find and Other Stories)
Absolutely and we are allowed to do that.
Whether Omar or Trump.
If you think you know Omar’s coded messages and do not like them – vote her out.
If you think Trump is sending secret code – that miraculously only left wing nut talking heads can decypher – then vote him out.
John Say: My comment speaks neither to impinging her speech rights, nor to voting her out–After all, she carries the 5th district–which is the country’s largest Somali-American population. She ain’t goin’ anywhere.
Rather, my comment spoke more generally to something else….more like, we need to read between the lines of what she (and others) say….
I think Ollie’s and Not-so-old-from-Arkansas’s comments said it better than I. Indeed, I already stated that her words are not actionable, but rather intractable.
Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Jonathan: It was an easy call. There is no basis to denaturalize or deport Rep. Ilhan Omar. The “speech and debate” clause and the 1st Amendment absolutely protect her. What is curious is that it appears only disgraced Gov. DeSantis is making such a call. That’s because he doesn’t like strong Black people who speak out. Here he shares the podium with DJT who is facing 3 Black prosecutors–Fani Willis, Letitia James and Alvin Bragg. DJT bizarrely calls them “racists”. For DeSantis and DJT when Black people criticize or prosecute you they are not “loyal” or “patriotic”. For anyone paying attention the real “racists” are DeSantis and DJT!
LOL. I don’t like strong or weak black or white or yellow or purple people that speak complete nonsense like you and omar and big ho fani and james and bragg and FJB and schumer and the morons at msnbcnnnyt that tell you what to think. You can call me a racist or a bigot or anything you like, because you don’t mean squat.
The lameness of your attempted retort shows the lack of any meaningful standing for omar or any other democrats, er crooks, er racists.
Wow, your vocabulary has grown. No more turds? But I see you have moved on to something like “big ho fan”. Such intelligence and debate skills you have. Nobody would dare go against you.
Willis has made herself fair game. I would suggest watching some video of Atlanta City Counsel.
There are a fair number of Black Women hating on Willis for going after Jocelyn’s man.
Your monomania is getting tedious.
Well, there are two things MAGA world hates….Being called racist’s, and people of color.
Do you think before you write ?
Thomas Sowell, Glenn Lourey, Walter Williams, Ben Carson, Tim Scott, Clarent Thomas,
Condeleze Rice, Colin Powel. Larry Elder. Byron Donalds
These are all people Left wing nuts hate and republicans love. These are Black People.
Pretty sure who the REAL racists are.
Do you like being called the racist you are ?
Nothing racist about DeSantis’s comments or Trump’s. DeSantis is wrong . That does not make him racist. Trump is being pursued in NY for doing what every real estate firm in the country does and what you probably did if you ever applied for a home equity loan. In Georgia , a black democrat lost a governor’s race and still hasn’t accepted the results
So did she call the SOS and tell them to find her votes? Did she submit fake electors?
In GA a prosecutor seeking to go after so called “fake electors” is facing disbarrment and prosecution.
Why ? Because this “fake electors” nonsense is false.
States have on occasion put forth two sets of electors – they have done that rarely for 200 years or more.
Federal Judges found that State legislatures have no standing to challenge presidential elections in court – Why ?
Because the state can challenge the eleciton in congress by sending a different slate of electors.
Just because you do not like what was done does not make it illegal, or even unethical.
I have no idea what Abrahms may have said to Raffensberger – nor o you.
What I do know is that unless she coerced or induced him that whatever she said was legal.
Omar is no black. There are more than 2 races in the world.
I am pretty surte Thomas has no problems with Thomas Sowell, Glenn Lourey, Walter Williams, Ben Carson, Tim Scott, Clarent Thomas,
Condeleze Rice, Colin Powel.
Political conflict with left wingnuts who happen to be non-white is not racism.
No one cares that Bragg, James, Willis are black.
We care that they litterally ran on a platform of “Get Trump” – without regard to the law, and now they are lawlessly proceeding.
There is as much or more problems With Smith who is pasty White. But atleast he did not campaign and get elected on a platform of I am going to prosecute my political enemies.
The real racists are those like you who are constantly playing the race card.
DeSantis “doesn’t like strong Black people who speak out.”
You mean like his Surgeon General, Dr. Joseph Ladapo?
You may now continue with the Left’s campaign of racist smears.
Legally, I will take the advice of a lawyer, and accept the fact that omar is protected from all of the above BUT… we would wish her and her hamas supporting faction to be gone if only to send the message that if you do not support the USA first, perhaps this is really not the nation for you and you should, of your own heart’s desire, relocate to a nation more aligned with your radical, America-hating views.
Isn’t that what elections are all about? If the people in her district don’t like her policies, and someone else offers better policies, you vote. Kinda like what we did in 2020. We voted, and trump lost. Get over it, accept what the majority vote for.
She is safely in a gerrymandered district comprised of other like-minded ilk, we need to understand that she represents ideology in direct opposition to our national foreign policy, and that is her right, but it is not ethical to split your loyalties, especially in times of conflict – we shall see what this group of American-haters do should we find ourselves in a war in the mid-east against the very factions she supports.
If only we actually knew who won in 2020.
But we do not trust lawlessly conducted elections.
We do not trust elections where there is massive ballot harvestign.
We do not trust elections where the allegedly winning party does everything possible to avoid scrutiny.
We do not trust elections held in the dark.
We do not trust elections with unattended ballot boxes,
We do not trust elections were election records and security video is deleted.
We do not trust elections where Government was used to censor millions of political comments.
We do not trust elections where one side brags that they will do whatever is necescary to win.
If you want people to beleive that you won the election, conduct the election so that people can trust it.
Should Representative Omar be considered a loyal American given her priority and allegiance appears to be Somalia?
don’t trust her.