This morning, many of us are emerging from the late coverage last night after the conviction of former President Donald Trump on 34 felonies. I was in the courtroom for the verdict, which hit like a thunderclap (particularly after a strange snafu with the judge). The question that everyone is asking: what happens next?
The scene in the court was a madhouse. Judge Juan Merchan told the court that the jury had not reached a verdict and would be dismissed for the day. Many reporters in the overflow courtroom were leaving when Merchan suddenly said that there was a verdict. People came running back into the courtroom. That was followed by 34 guilty verdicts.
I am obviously saddened by the verdict, but not surprised. Until the very end, I was hopeful that there would be a hung jury, a result that could restore some integrity to the New York criminal justice system. However, I previously noted that the jury instructions made conviction much more likely. I referred to the deliberations as a legal “canned hunt” due to instructions that made conviction a near certainty.
You could feel the weight of history in the courtroom, though we still have to see what history was made. For some, it was the conviction of the first president of a felony. For others, it was the key moment where the weaponization of the criminal system became clear and inescapable. It was both, obviously. Yet, the trial fulfilled narratives on both sides.
I ran outside to join the coverage. (One humorous moment was an officer screaming at reporters piling out of the courtroom to “walk not run.” It did not work.) It looked like the final judgment with everyone panicking to find an exit.
The scene outside the courtroom was surreal. The Trump supporters were outraged. The anti-Trump protesters were ecstatic, dancing and celebrating in the street.
While I have written a book about what I have called “the age of rage,” I am always shocked by such scenes. There is a dehumanizing element of these moments as people celebrate not just the first conviction of a president but a person. Rage is addictive and contagious. That was vividly evident outside the courtroom.
So what happens next?
Obviously, appeals will be taken. As I said last night, we must keep the faith. Indeed, moments like this require us to take a leap of faith in a nation that remains committed to the rule of law. Manhattan is neither the entirety of the country nor the legal system. I believe that these convictions will be overturned, but it will take time. Judge Merchan committed, in my view, layers of reversible error. Eventually, this case may reach the United States Supreme Court.
It has been suggested that an appeal could be taken directly to the Supreme Court. I find that doubtful after the Supreme Court rejected an expedited process for Special Counsel Jack Smith in his federal prosecutions. It will work first through the New York appellate system.
As for the criminal process, Trump will have to meet with a probation officer for an interview. That officer will make recommendations to the court.
There is a possibility of a jail sentence for felonies that come with up to four years for each offense. Any jail sentences would almost certainly run concurrently. However, any jail sentence would be ridiculous in Manhattan for an elderly first-offender in a non-violent offense.
Consistent with his past commentary, MSNBC legal analyst and former Mueller aide Andrew Weissmann predicted that Merchan will give Trump jail time. He is not alone as legal analysts seemed to get caught up in a thrill-kill conviction.
It is much more likely that Merchan will impose a sentence without a jail sentence, though with fines. The most appropriate, in my view, would be a conditional discharge that requires Trump not to commit a new crime or face potential imprisonment.
Merchan could also tailor a sentence to require home confinement or even weekend jailing. Those options would raise serious conflicts with his campaigning and obviously, if elected, serving as president. Even the probation process will be awkward since a convicted defendant ordinarily has to get approval for any travel outside of the state from his probation officer.
Sentences can also include community service, counseling and other requirements.
After his ruling in this trial, it is impossible to rule anything out. However, any jail sentence would add even more outrage to an abuse of the criminal law system.
I bet it wouldn’t be hard to dig up crimes committed by Juan and his daughter.
I bet you’re wrong. But if you’re right, they should be prosecuted just like Trump and any other lawbreaker.
Like Hillary, Obama and Biden?
And Biden, and Bill Clinton, and LBJ retroactively
In fact, let’s immitate leftist fanatics. Let’s go fishing for every hint of criminal minutiae we can find on everyone in any way affiliated with a leftest position and harass and follow and study and arrest and prosecute every single one of them no matter how long it takes.
Marxists are the enemy. Lawfare has become warfare. They want us all dead.
The Shadow Faction is going to have it’s War, whether Trump becomes president or not. It’s clear that they would rather have a Creme Puff President (Biden or Harris) but what is clear now is that no President will stand in the way of the Shadow Faction. The Faction runs the Deep State (DOJ, FBI, CIA, DHS, …) It is both an Global Autonomous Authority and is Embedded (Saturated) into the U.S. Government. The United States are essentially under the ‘Autonomous Administrative Division ‘of the Shadow Faction.
(There have been a few spooky names for them over the years; Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Society, … i.e. Informal Alliances)
So even if Donald Trump becomes President (any President at this point) he’ll bow to the Authority of the Faction, be ignored & disregarded, or if he becomes a nuisance – eliminated.
The forever-wars of the Faction are a necessary component (a necessary evil) of socio and economic inequities that are necessary to sustain capitalism. Without these ‘inequities’ capitalism lack that leverage to turn the wheels of the machine (progress).
I’m not saying that capitalism is bad and that we should be communist, I am recognizing that capitalism has flaws and the forever-wars are an example of that (a symptom of the flaws).
The state of U.S. Markets are in; unsustainable levels, over saturated (to many zombie entities), and willfully non-performing in respect to Domestic reality and Foreign competition (The U.S. Market(s) – Are a Joke). Further the advent of advanced computer intelligence (like A.I.) is creating a useless population (over-population) to which creates inefficiency in the use of; Land Resources, Production, Capitol, etc. … If it keeps up the pace, We are heading toward a Solent-Green Society.
We will end up finding a planet-communism for survival mentality at some point, in order to save Humanity and the environment.
That said, a happier-ending won’t happen under Biden et.al., He wants 10% of this Planet.
Anonymous said: “I’m not saying that capitalism is bad and that we should be communist, I am recognizing that capitalism has flaws and the forever-wars are an example of that (a symptom of the flaws).”
You very much appear to be conflating capitalism with corporatism. You do have a lot of company. Corporatism is a facade to conceal the fact that a company must be in bed with the government and the politicians and bureaucrats that run it to be allowed to “compete”. True capitalism allows all to compete without government favor, and allows an actual free market to pick the winners and losers. We have never had absolute capitalism in this country, and the more that defense and other government contractors come to dominate the economy, the further away from that ideal we get.
Yep that’s an astute observation and I agree with you. I also hold that ‘capitalism with corporatism’ is not synonymous.
Dear Mr. Turley, I had hoped against hope that the verdict would be “Not guilty”. However, knowing that this “trial” was taking place in New York, I was fairly positive there would be a conviction. You ask what’s next? An appeal of course as should be done and is Mr. Trump’s right under the law. It is my hope that the Left will note there isn’t and rioting going on, no burning buildings, no occupying of police buildings because we didn’t get our way. The Right looks to the rule of law, not the rule of the mob as espoused by the Left. I would caution those who are gleeful over the conviction to take note, they may have won this round, but they will not win this war on the Right with their Lawfare weaponry.
Mike Davis is the man that we need.
https://www.mediamatters.org/steve-bannon/steve-bannons-show-mike-davis-threatens-rain-hell-these-biden-democrats-and-warns-them
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MIKE DAVIS (ARTICLE III PROJECT): What’s going to make my year next year is when President Trump appoints Mark Paoletta or Jeff Clark as the Attorney General and the other one can take the White House Counsel job. And John Sauer is President Trump’s Solicitor General. And John Eastman is going to run the Office of Legal Counsel. And Your Excellency, Viceroy and Gov. General of D.C. Mike Davis is going to help them rain hell on these Biden Democrats.
I would say to these guys, lawyer up. I would lawyer up because guess what? This is a criminal conspiracy that these Democrat prosecutors and Democrat White House officials, Democrat Judges, Democrat witnesses, Democrat operatives — they’re running an — Andrew Weissmann, buddy? You’re running a criminal conspiracy to violate the civil rights of President Trump, his top aides like Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon, his lawyers like Jeff Clark and John Eastman, his supporters on January 6.
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This is lawfare. This is election interference. And there are going to be the most severe legal, political and financial consequences come January 20, 2025.
***END QUOTE****
I hope they expand their reach to include all Democrats.
Hopefully, they can establish a regime where those who breathe even one syllable of dissent against Trump, or the American way, gets targeted for prosecution of crimes real or imagined, using dubious legal arguments and forged evidence if necessary, regardless of what statute, evidence, Brady v. Maryland, or the United States Constitution say.
The rules have changed.
I did not choose to change the rules; others have changed them for me, with the full support of academic, media, and entertainment elites.
We need to do this to these subhuman vermin Democrats or they send us to the gas chambers!
I am outraged but not shocked by the verdict in this “hush Trump” trial. But, I disagree with using anything including false evidence to prosecute anyone. While I have no doubt that the attacks on Pres. Trump were orchestrated lawfare intended to deprive voters of an opportunity to vote for him, if we descend to the depths used by the Left then we erode the rights of all. Use legitimate evidence to prove what has been done not only to Trump but to us all.
The rights of us all were already eroded.
too late to worry about the use of forged or false or fabricated evidence.
Merchant is a prime example of why tarring and feathering should come back in style… When is Joe Biden going to be charged with the same crimes for the Hunter Biden’s laptop is Russian disinformation letter his campaign had people sign. Obviously this precedent makes that a campaign finance violation.
This is a Kristallnacht moment. Or, at least, it should be. If anyone was still of the, “This is just politics” mindset, then it is time to wake up. The Democrat Party is EVIL – their leadership and apparatchiks are evil, lying scum, and in a sane, moral society they would be in prison, or on a guillotine. People who vote for them, and support them, are no better than the people who said,”Seig Heil!”, of their own free will.
I feel so sorry for Trump, who has had to endure years of this. Frankly, the country does not deserve him, any more than the world deserved Jesus. The 2020 election should not have even been close enough to be stolen, and there is something deeply flawed in Americans, something rotten at the core of us. We have descended so far into the muck of evil, that a large number of Americans actually support the castration of children. We have become like the Mayans.
Arnold Toynbee foresaw what happens next:
““We are not doomed to make history repeat itself; it is open to us, through our own efforts, to give history, in our case, some new and unprecedented turn. As human beings, we are endowed with this freedom of choice, and we cannot shuffle off our responsibility upon the shoulders of God or nature. We must shoulder it ourselves. It is up to us, it is up to us to respond creatively to the challenges of our time.”
In essence, Toynbee propounds that when a civilization successfully responds to challenges, it grows. When it fails to respond to a challenge, it enters its period of decline. Toynbee argued that “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.”
Personally, I tend toward the view of Oswald Spengler, who thought that the rise and fall of civilizations was inevitable. I think we have already gone too far to save ourselves. We have let the trash (via the machinations of the Democrat Party) grow to a point where the country is in inertial and inevitable decline. Even if Trump is saved by a higher court, what does it say about us, that it takes a higher court to do what we should have already done – defanging the Democrat Party by walking away en masse from them.
Floyd, aside from the comparison to Jesus, I agree.
If Biden had the interest of the country at heart, he would pardon Trump now. He could even pair that with a pardon of Hunter.
But he is a totalitarian at heart, so will not do the former but after the election will do the latter, no matter the outcome.
This was a mistake. Biden has no power to pardon Trump who was convicted under state law. But he could urge the NY authorities to go so.
This is a state charge. Biden has no authority at all to pardon him. Do you even know how out government system works?
Your ignorance equals that of your cult master.
Anon – it looks like you’re wrong – Daniel posted his acknowledgement before you which proves he wasn’t influenced by you. Now your nasty little insults directed against Daniel don’t speak well of you. Perhaps that’s why you post anonymously.
As always, my vehement criticisms of ‘genocide’ Joe is not the same thing as support for the Trump monkey Apostle. .. but it would make a fine campaign advertisement.
The main difference between Biden and Trump is the full force of the U.S. government.
*I fought the law .. .
this is such a stain on our nation and it isn’t only NY. It is California, too, and other lunatic-controlled states where the law is anything they want it to be. Kangaroo courts are all the vogue in such places and now there are calls from the center-right to start arresting people like Hillary Clinton in other states like Texas or Florida. I was a diplomat. I’ve lived to see the day when the once-respectable USA is using Pakistan as its role model.
Our free press gives more time to MS-13 members to explain their terrorism than it does to a conservative to offer a perspective that differs from theirs.
Its even worse than the stain Bill Clinton left on Monica Lewinsky’s dress!
Jonathan: It was a “9/11” moment. My wife came down the stairs shouting “Trump was convicted!”. It was a shock because the reporting was that Justice Merchan was going to dismiss the jury for the day. DJT’s conviction on all 34 criminal counts was a vindication for the principle that NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW–not even a former president.
For the MAGA crowd the verdict will have no impact on them. They will vote for DJT even if he is in prison. The Q is how will GOP women voters react to the verdict? The trial exposed DJT’s Achilles heel with female voters. While Melania was at home recovering from child birth and caring for Barron, DJT was having sex with a porn star and involved in a 10 month affair with Karen McDougal. For many women voters, no matter the party, the “Melania factor” will weigh heavily in their voting decisions. The fact that Melania never showed up at the trial will not be lost on women voters.
If anyone is to blame for the unanimous verdict it’s DJT’s defense team. They failed to provide any coherent alternative theory. Their only strategy was to attack Michael Cohen–that he is a “serial liar”. The prosecutor’s strategy was better. They put on Cohen as their last witness. Why? Because every bit of Cohen’s testimony was confirmed by prior witnesses and all the documents. The jury believed Cohen, not what the defense was trying to sell.
As to sentencing on July 11, I doubt DJT will just get probation. What you don’t mention is DJT’s 10 contempt violations. Justice Merchan will no doubt factor that in at sentencing. Under any other circumstances 1 contempt would result in some jail time. I seriously doubt DJT is looking at just probation. But you bizarrely think “any jail sentence would add to the outrage to an abuse of the criminal law system”. Your attack on the criminal justice system itself is not something we expect from an officer of the court. But we know where you stand–you stand with a convicted felon!
How does one provide a “coherent legal theory” when the prosecution has not defined the requisite crime for the felony upgrade until after the defense’s closing arguments?
All we need to know is that Republican cops, Republican prosecutors, and Republican jurors need to start persecuting subhuman vermin Democrats!
@anonymous,
“ How does one provide a “coherent legal theory” when the prosecution has not defined the requisite crime for the felony upgrade until after the defense’s closing arguments?”
They defined it multiple times. Even in the jury instructions.
When pundits and legal analysts constantly peddle disingenuous claims and you fall for it. You find yourself wondering why you haven’t heard it. Because you were willfully denying it all this time.
Quite happily, yes—look at the alternative.
So did your wife still have shaving cream on his face? A 9/11 moment where 3,000 people were murdered by a bunch of Islamic terrorists, you’re comparing a travesty of our justice system to that? Get some help
Trump 2024!
Dear Prof Turley,
So now you ‘want to give the Devil the benefit of law’!?
Good luck. The courts, DoJ and opinions of the OLC are planted thick in this country to protect Joe Biden from frivolous laws. Better bring a chainsaw.
You don’t mess with the Bidens, see. Res ipsa loquitur six ways from Sunday,
*“I am sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled,” Hunter Biden wrote Zhao, according to IRS supervisory agent Gary Shapley and another agency investigator who has remained anonymous.
“Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight,” the now-53-year-old went on. “And, Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.”
“I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father,” Hunter reiterated to conclude the stunning message.
So, now Arkansas family court judge can nail Hunter for lying, bootstrap other crimes involving hiding income conspiracy with his Father. I guess that’s how they want the rules of politics to work these days. It works both ways.
“. . . the conviction of former President Donald Trump on 34 felonies.” (JT)
A DA who vowed to get that man. A jury that hates that man. A lead prosecutor imported from the ruling regime. Unnamed “crimes.” Other “crimes” that are arbitrary and capricious. Suspending due process. A trial run by a clearly biased policy judge.
When tyrants (like Putin) do it, it’s called a: Show trial.
And there’s always this future P.S.: You sure you want to run as a MAGA politician? You sure you want to be a MAGA supporter? See what we did to Trump?
so the Millions Bidens got from China? Anything?
Stay on topic, don’t waste our time!
The jurors gave the world precisely what could be expected from that jurisdiction. My take on this? They’d had had just about enough of the disjointed trial process, and a confusing and incomprehensible jury charge, Having not been sequestered, they were privy to all the media yada yada that was going down throughout the entirety of the trial. Considering the sum total of the aforementioned, as well as the constituency they are part of, it was made easy for them to tell themselves they had done their civic duty, threw DJT under the bus, and went home, leaving the rest to providence. I expect several media interviews of them and a book from one or more of them. Why not cash in on opportunity.
The long sequester gave Democrat operatives time to contact and threaten any jurors deemed leaning towards an acquittal.
The Optimist in Me said that the Jury just-might find a partial conviction, The Pessimist in Me said there’s no way that this has come this far without the Shadow State getting what they came for.
The World is at the brink of World War III in Central Europe and Middle East. I wounder why Russia hasn’t begun to take Kiev already, as if they are waiting for NATO to get in-place and on the ready, like British and French regiments lined up Brigades into rows during the Continental Wars, and every morning I expect to see that someone has pulled the trigger on this powder keg and touched it off, ‘The Tactical-Nuke Shot Heard Around The World’.
The Trump saga and next weeks Hunter Biden saga will continue to be the diversion until they have pushed The Button.
You can’t say that none of you didn’t see this coming (Jonathan included), The drums of war are getting louder, the number of actual Boots the West has are much smaller than in the past, and why not reduce the Ranks, after all we have moved to Automated Weapon Systems and Tactical Nuclear positions (scenarios that only need a push of the button). Why send Troops into a Nuclear Waste Zone, push it and forget it.
You gotta give Trump credit for trying, He knows as good as You and I that these Warmongers are going to play their game out at the expense of the World and Environment. The World is counting down to D-Day 2.0
On the bright side, if the nukes fly, New York City is toast! They will have brought this on themselves.
🙂
Every cloud has a silver lining.
Even a mushroom cloud.
what comes next? The continuation of Democrat Fascism! Where people like Menendez, Clintons, Bidens, Pelosi, etc get rich SELLING America….and the America People are under the BOOT heel of Democrat Fascism….where the RICHEST employ the State to keep the middle class down! BTW wait till the millions of illegals destroy area after area! It is clear the FBI, CIA, IRS, etc are destroying all political opposition to the DEEP STATE! Biden should win 90 million mailed in ballots…from people who traditionally have NEVER voted!
To all commenters who are not blinded by hatred of Trump: remember, these convictions are a nullity. The process by which they were reached violated Trump’s constitutional due process rights, guaranteed by 14A, in a hundreds of ways. The convictions are therefore invalid and will be declared so on appeal. Again, that means they are legal nullities even before the appellate court rules.
Bottom line: Trump has still never been validly convicted of any crime.
Of course the TDS commenters here will baselessly deny that, but like I said, this comment isn’t for them.
OldManFromKS,
Well said and thank you for your comment.
“hundreds of ways”
care to list the hundreds?
Democrats are now reduced to little kids name calling people they don’t like….
Nah nah nah
Trump is a convicted felon
Nah nah nah nah
Trump is a convicted felon.
That’s all they got. Pathetic, weak cowards.
A few days ago, Turley said “To rely solely on Cohen and not even call someone like Weisselberg is to play these jurors as chumps.” Allen Weisselberg, Trump’s long-serving CFO, is currently in prison for lying under oath in civil court. In 2022, he pleaded guilty to 15 counts of tax fraud & falsifying business records. Yep, jurors definitely could have benefited from Trump’s long-time CFO taking the witness stand & admitting he was convicted of lying in court & falsifying business records.
Turley is saddened by the verdicts, but 2 of Trump’s senior management team had a much different reaction:
“I wasn’t sitting in the courtroom, but I always thought he was guilty…I think it’s a very good result for the country & none of it surprised me based on knowing him.”
-Barbara Res, Executive VP of the Trump Organization for 18 years
“I was shocked because, having watched decades of an organization that was run corruptly & never being held accountable, it finally happened. So it was shocking to see this man was not above the law for the first time in his life & he’s going to be held accountable.”
-Jack O’Donnell, President & Chief Operating Officer of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino
Turley said “To rely solely on Cohen and not even call someone like Weisselberg is to play these jurors as chumps.” Allen Weisselberg,
The law says the juror can infer the Prosecution refusal to put Weisselberg on the stand in proof he would not corroborate Cohens testimony
Do you know who else didn’t put Weisselberg on the stand after there was testimony that he, Cohen, and Trump were in a room discussing how to make and hide a hush money payment? Donald Trump. Why would he not call a witness who could prove Cohen false with his testimony.
Because the defnese does not have to prove innocence. ALL the burden of proof rests with the Prosecutor
So if you were a defendant and had a potential witness that could refute damning testimony, would you want him called? The defense didn’t have to do anything which is close to what they did. Did they refute, even in cross examination, any of David Pecler’s testimony? Hope Hicks and other Trump employees? Most of the facts were not in dispute. The one piece of evidence not backed up by other witnesses and documents and you have a witness that could dispute it and you don’t call him, why?
Feelings aren’t evidence. In any event, the precedent has been set. Checkmate.
“Congress paid out $17 million in settlements. Here’s why we know so little about that money.”
“Two things have become painfully clear on Capitol Hill this week:
Lawmakers and staffers say sexual harassment is “rampant”– but even members of Congress have no idea how widespread the issue is.”
The controversial and sensitive issue has taken center stage in Congress this week, with female lawmakers making fresh allegations of sexual harassment against unnamed members who are currently in office, and the unveiling of a new bill on Wednesday to change how sexual harassment complaints are reported and resolved. On Thursday, a woman shared her story of being groped and kissed without her consent by Sen. Al Franken in 2006.
So far, there’s been little specific data to help illuminate just how pervasive sexual harassment is on Capitol Hill, but one figure has emerged: the total that the Office of Compliance, the office that handles harassment complaints, has paid to victims.
On Thursday, the Office of Compliance released additional information indicating that it has paid victims more than $17 million since its creation in the 1990s. That includes all settlements, not just related to sexual harassment, but also discrimination and other cases.
An OOC spokeswoman said the office was releasing the extra data “due to the interest in”
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/settlements-congress-sexual-harassment/index.html
“What’s next?” We need a thorough cleansing of our nation – a good disinfective used and the America-haters swept away in a flood of sewage water.
Democrats introduce bill to block convicted felons from running for the presidency.
Of course they did. They can’t win except by cheating.
Biden’s campaign must be in pretty bad shape if anyone thinks that convictions in Blue State kangaroo courts with biased judges, and a prosecutor who was #3 in the Biden Department of Justice and a Democratic Party consultant, are going to sway any votes.
Moreover, no one in history, let alone a former president, has ever been charged with conspiring to “influencing an election”, based on an expired misdemeanor. It’s preposterous on the face of it.
Though I would never actually vote for Trump, today I sent his campaign $100. I consider it the only way to protest trampling the Constitution and the rule of law in NYC.
Flagrant weaponization of the criminal justice system just to win an election, is really beyond he pale.
Sarastro, if you don’t vote for Trump you are voting for the guy and the party that committed this affront to our way of life.
Trump wasn’t charged with conspiring to influence an election. He was charged with — and convicted of — falsifying business records.
If you’re going to gripe about the case, at least get the facts right.
That doesn’t make it a felony, so what exactly are the charges?
Even you Demcom trolls don’t understand what the criminality alleged actually was. The “falsification of business records” is a misdemeanor, with the statute of limitations long expired. That is not what he was convicted of. He was convicted of “falsifying business records in furtherance of a scheme to commit another crime”. The “other crime” was unlawfully influencing an election (the 2016 presidential election). Of course influencing an election (or trying to) is what candidates do every day. It is decidedly not unlawful and even if it was, the state court has no jurisdiction to enforce it. What made the influencing “unlawful” under the state law was the use of a false business record. See what they did there? The alleged false business record , which was not alleged as a crime, became the foundation of and the catalyst for making a perfectly legal act (influencing an election) a felony. Just picture a snake swallowing its own tail. And Judge Merchan in his jury instructions plainly said that scenario was enough on which to justify a conviction. In fact, he allowed the prosecution to say in their summation that Cohen and Pecker had committed such unlawful election violation and that Trump was an accomplice, without any support for that. QED. Glad I could explain that to you Demcoms.
“I would never actually vote for Trump, today I sent his campaign $100. I consider it the only way to protest…”
Money is not going to win this election for Trump. Your vote is what counts more than your money.
If you “would never vote FOR Trump”…. would you vote FOR saving this country?
If Democrats “win” in November, you can kiss freedoms you take for granted goodbye and say hello to tyranny. That’s not hyperbole.
Don’t vote for Trump. Vote against lawfare.
would you vote for brandon?
“Though I would never actually vote for Trump”
Why??? Why not go ahead and vote for the man who ran a pretty good Presidency? The economy was good, we didn’t get into any new wars, and the borders were more secure. Trump also protected American workers from off-shoring more than any other.
Not voting for Trump, helps the Democrat Party Nazis.
He told you to drink bleach to cure COVID. That’s a pretty good reason.
The full Trump quote, “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.”
Never said bleach and never told you to drink anything. Keep staying stupid…
I didn’t vote for Trump in 2020 but will in 2024. I also sent Trump $100.00.
This trial reminded me of an episode on Hogan’s Heroes…When Nazi General Burkhalter said to his underlings who were trying to discredit him, ……in Germany, you will get a fair trial and then we will shoot you.
Dido, I sent Trump$100 too. I was VP of Finance in one of the USFL Teams when Trump bought the New Jersey Generals and then when against the by-laws and signed Herschel Walker to a multimillion dollar contract that was the beginning of the end of the league. He made my life misserable for two years as he bankrupted the league, but I am voting or him and will sent him more money. Everytime I check out of Publix, I tell the young staffers to vote Republican to help bring down inflation and they nod their heads in agreement.
It is very instructive to observe the reactions to a horrific spectacle.
During France’s Reign of Terror, there was this — “a sense of the fairground spectacle and amusing novelty:”
“Around the scaffold people sold mementos and lists of the scheduled executions. There were restaurants and cabarets de la Guillotine, where the latest victims were lists as ‘catch of the day’ and satirical songs and poems were performed. [. . .] Many fashionable drawing rooms in Paris had novelty miniature guillotines that were used to slice bread or fruit at dinner parties, and toy replicas were popular.”
Today, there is this:
“[M]any liberal San Franciscans have celebration—and getting wasted—in mind. Standard Deviant Brewing in the Mission [San Francisco] on Friday, you can stop from 4 to 10 p.m. at their taproom at 280 14th St. for a $10, 34-ounce beer to commemorate the 34 guilty counts. At the Cinch Saloon at 1723 Polk St. in Nob Hill, you can imbibe a cocktail of vodka, orange juice and bitters that manager Eric Berchtold has dubbed ‘The Orange Menace.’”
There are similar “fairground spectacles and amusing novelties” at Leftist enclaves around the country.
Two words describe that ilk, then and now: Vicious and vindictive.