Cannon Fodder: The Media Piles on Federal Judge After Lionizing Manhattan Judge

Below is my column in the New York Post on the vicious attacks being directed at Judge Aileen Cannon as she addresses pre-trial motions in the Florida prosecution of former president Donald Trump. The sheer hypocrisy in the media is overwhelming after denouncing any criticism of Judge Juan Merchan in the Manhattan prosecution. For Cannon, it is nothing short of a press pile-on.

Here is the column:

The politicians, the press, and pundits are in a feeding frenzy around Judge Aileen Cannon, the federal judge presiding in the Florida case against former President Donald Trump. There is a torrent of hit pieces and petty attacks on virtually every media platform.

What is impressive is the complete lack of self-awareness over the hypocrisy of these attacks. Just a few weeks ago, the New York Times and other media outlets went into vapors when anyone uttered criticism of Manhattan Justice Juan Merchan in another Trump case.

In 2020, Judge Cannon was confirmed in a bipartisan vote, with the support of liberals such as Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Cal.).

Now she is being denounced as a “partisan, petty prima donna, “wacko, crazy, loony, nutty, ridiculous, and outlandish,” and a “right-wing hack.” From the descriptions in the Washington Post, New York Times and virtually every mainstream media outlet, you would think that Cannon was a freak in the courtroom, raving uncontrollably at any passerby.

These critics often stress that she is an appointee of Trump, even though many Trump appointees have ruled against the former president on 2020 election issues. And these same figures denounced Trump for attacking the perceived political bias of Democratic nominees in some of his cases.

Cannon was randomly selected, as opposed to Merchan, who was hand-picked to try Trump even though he is a political donor to President Joe Biden and has a daughter who is a major Democratic operative.

Yet these same figures denounced those who questioned Merchan’s refusal to step aside or criticized his rulings against Trump throughout the trial.

In reality, the “loose Cannon” spin is utterly disconnected with her actual rulings.

She has ruled for and against both parties on major issues. That includes the rejection of major motions filed by the Trump team and most recently challenged Trump counsel on their claims that the Special Counsel is part of “a shadow government.”

Notably, when Cannon recently rejected the main motion for dismissal by the Trump team, the Washington Post buried that fact in an article titled “Judge Cannon Strikes Paragraph in Trump Classified Document Indictment.” The suggestion was that the striking of a single paragraph was more newsworthy than insisting that Trump go to trial on these counts. (Also buried in the article is a recognition that the removal of this one paragraph “does not have a substantive effect on the case.”)

Most recently, the left expressed nothing short of horror that Judge Cannon allowed the Trump team to argue a point of constitutional law in a hearing.

Scholars and former prosecutors (including former attorneys general) have argued that the appointment of special counsels like Smith are unconstitutional.

This is a novel and intriguing constitutional objection that is based on the text of the Constitution, which requires that high-ranking executive officers like U.S. Attorneys be appointed under statute or nominated by the president (and confirmed by the Senate).

Yet after the expiration of the Independent Counsel Act in Jun 1999, the Justice Department asserts the right to take any private citizen like Smith and effectively give him greater authority than a U.S. Attorney.

This glaring inconsistency has led to a number of challenges. Thus far, they have been unsuccessful, but none have gone to the Supreme Court. Cannon wanted to hear oral arguments before ruling on the question.

That decision has sent the politicians and reporters into another frenzy of faux outrage and indignation.

MSNBC legal analyst and NYU law professor Melissa Murray went on with host Chris Hayes to tell Judge Cannon to “stay in her lane” and mock her consideration of constitutional claim:

“Girl, stay in your lane. Stay. In. Your. Lane. So, yes, not only has the issue of whether the special counsel comports with the structures of constitutional law, that’s been settled. That’s been addressed in multiple courts. Settled. We don’t have to rehash that … If this were an actual issue it would ultimately be decided by the Supreme Court, not by a district court judge in Fort Pierce, Florida.”

It is a baffling lecture. Cannon is precisely in her lane in hearing a claim without controlling authority. The fact is that the Supreme Court has not ruled on the issue and many lawyers have objected to the summary treatment given the claim by other courts. The point of creating a record is to allow a full review that could well end up at the Supreme Court.

Who isn’t staying in their lane? Cannon’s colleagues.

The New York Times recently reported that two judges attempted to get Cannon to hand off the case when it was randomly assigned to her. So the suggestion is that two of her colleagues breached any sense of collegiality and confidentiality to contribute to a hit piece on Cannon.

It is worth noting that there was no reason for Cannon to decline the selection, particularly not due to her appointment by Trump. A variety of Trump appointees have ruled against Trump on matters without a hint of objection from the left.

While it is true that Cannon was just put on the bench a couple years ago, that did not seem to bother these same pundits in the Georgia case. Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee was put on the bench only shortly before being assigned the Georgia case against Trump and associates.

Cannon is a true American success story and, if she were only to rule in favor of the left, she would certainly be the subject of glowing stories of how she went from being born in Cali, Colombia to joining the federal bench. Her mother escaped Cuba after the revolution and she grew up with a deep-seated faith in the rule of law. She graduated from Duke University and, after a stint as a journalist, graduated from Michigan Law School magna cum laude.

Yet there will be no “American dream” stories for Cannon like the ones that ran for Sonia Sotomayor after her nomination.

Cannon is a Republican and has the temerity to follow a conservative jurisprudence. For the media, that makes her unworthy (much like the lack of coverage on Justice Clarence Thomas’ incredible life story).

There is little chance that the scorched Earth campaign against Cannon will work. When your family escapes Communist Cuba and then the drug-ravaged city of Cali, partisan media hit pieces are hardly intimidating.

That may be frustrating for many in the media, but she is fulfilling the purpose of Article III of the Framers. She will rule and she will not yield.

Jonathan Turley is the J.B. and Maurice C. Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at the George Washington University School of Law. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage” (Simon and Schuster, 2024).

 

329 thoughts on “Cannon Fodder: The Media Piles on Federal Judge After Lionizing Manhattan Judge”

  1. O T – Anyone doubt that the Democratic Party is behind the legal persecution of Trump? Check out the Daily Caller today: “EXCLUSIVE: DNC Sent Millions To Law Firms Behind ‘Unprecedented Lawfare’ Campaign Against Trump” https://dailycaller.com/2024/06/25/dnc-democratic-national-committee-law-firm-payments-e-jean-carroll-trump-supreme-court/?pnespid=tqNgEnoaJqUWx..P_DawFYKHuQL_DsIqK_Sxwuh1q0RmJ4hrPthZGWwRidRY_tt85og9D9FE
    Without doubt, the lawfare campaign against Trump is the dirtiest political trick in the history of the United States.

  2. Judge Canon is a strong, intelligent independent woman. That scares liberals, who prefer women to be weak, timid, and easy to control. All the media’s bashing of Canon is done from the safety of typing at a keyboard in an office somewhere. But what is coming through loud and clear … is fear.

    1. Patrice thinks the motive to commit a crime is the same as a crime itself.
      When the Brooklyn DA prosecutes Hillary for labeling Steele Dossier payments as “Legal Services,” on her FEC report submittals, then I will see that Trump’s prosecution was not selective.

    2. Above the law… the name speaks for itself

      Bwahahahahahah

      Do you enjoy looking like a douche???

  3. Still not satisfied it’s all a bad joke and all the judges are corrupt left with the get Trump ludicrous crap rulings up and down the line.

    NEVER trust a courtroom after what we’ve seen these past years.

  4. Regular readers may have noticed I am trolling, ahem, posting more than ever. There is a reason for that and the following article provides the reasons.

    Does anyone want to hookup with me? introduce me to their sons or Trans daughter-now-son? Im well groomed, clean, obedient and take orders well, provided you are not a MAGA supporter*

    * I do make exceptions with the use of my handy dandy ruler. greater than 9″ gets you very far with me!

    – your lovable, adorable, low IQ troll,
    Peter Hill:Ralph:Wally:George:Svelaz:BottomBoy:Bug:Gigi and all other troll names I cant recall right now!

    Dating Apps Once Ran on Novelty. For Some Users, the Fun Is Over

    Nearly half of all online daters and more than half of female daters say their experiences have been negative, according to Pew, and a growing tide of users are sharing their dissatisfaction in popular Facebook forums and on TikTok. People bemoan a perceived rise in bad dating etiquette such as “ghosting” and the sending of unsolicited sexual messages, and blame the way online romance makes it easier to discard potential partners at a touch of a button. “Hacks,” or tricks designed to game the apps for better dates, abound, demonstrating the shortcomings of their designs.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/dating-apps-once-ran-on-novelty-for-some-users-the-fun-is-over-4c673b4e

    1. REGARDING ABOVE

      Yes, it is all true. I am coming clean because I fear what James Floyd Estovir Thinkitthrough will do to me once Trump becomes President, and I will need a new job. I really sux at work

    2. Where are you’re little dashed lines and the “key passage from above”.

      You’re slipping, Peter. You’re spending way too much time sucking mega maga cock.

      1. REGARDING ABOVE

        Yes it is true. Estovir James Floyd are my favorite mega maga cocks.
        I will try to do better so they can be proud of me.

      2. Why don’t you clowns do something really, really dumb, even dumber than your usual dumb trolling, and ask Darren to BAN you clowns FOR LIFE?

        I mean, that would be the topper for your clown show.

        Try it:

        Darren, plleeeease BAN us FOR LIFE!

        Plleeeease!

  5. From Turley’s Linked Article:

    Cannon’s supervision of the case has alarmed legal experts on both sides of the aisle.

    She has handled many matters that would typically be left to a magistrate judge, including in her appointment of the special master.
    She’s also handled the case at a slow pace, declining to set a trial date until she works through numerous pretrial motions before her. That includes a slated Friday hearing challenging special counsel Jack Smith’s appointment.

    Cannon’s indefinite punting of the case came after lawyers for both Trump and the government said they would be willing to go to trial by summer.

    She’s also given ample time to matters many judges would likely weigh more speedily, including scheduling hearings for a battery of efforts by Trump to dismiss the case rather than making a determination based on filings.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4731992-aileen-cannon-trump-documents-case-judges/
    ……………………………………..

    Turley followers are strongly encouraged to read the linked articles. Quite often said articles contradict Turley’s arguments.

    With regards to Judge Cannon, finding articles complimentary of her is very challenging. For that reason Turley wants us to know that Cannon is just another conservative victim of mainstream media.

    1. One question.

      Who gives a flying fvck? When we care what those douches have yo say, we’ll go to their website.

      1. “Paid DNC Troll” is the signature of Floyd Turdrunner, the Russian troll.

  6. Jonathan: The first Presidential debate is just 2 days away. Will DJT show up? He has little choice but he is looking for the off ramp– any possible excuse to drop out–claiming Biden must first have a drug test! What other candidate for President has ever made such a demand? It’s craziness coming from DJT and his campaign!

    I had a dream last night–that I was Jake Tapper, one of the moderators of the CNN debate. And I asked DJT this Q: “Mr. Trump, you have been accused of sympathizing with the views of Adoph Hitler. Here are some of Hitler’s statements and those of yours that resemble those of the Nazi leader–and I would like your response:

    Hitler: ‘I would get rid of the Communist vermin’;
    Trump: ‘ I will get rid of the Communist vermin’;
    Hitler: ‘I will take carry of the enemy within’;
    Trump: ‘I will take care of the threat from within’;
    Hitler: ‘Jews and migrants are poisoning Aryan blood’;
    Trump: Migrants are poisoning the blood of our country’;
    Hitler: ‘One people, one realm, one people’;
    Trump: ‘Our people, one family, one glorious nation’

    Mr. Trump, your deceased wife Ivana said you had Hitler’s speeches on your bedside stand. Did you read Hitler’s speeches and, if so, what did you learn from them? You have 1 minute to respond”.

    Now that was just a dream but wouldn’t it be fascinating to see DJT’s response?

    1. Just when I thought you couldn’t get any creepier, you always manage to surprise me.

    2. Again, who gives a fvck?. Know thy enemy. You fascists are worth studying Dennis, so we dont make the same mistakes we made then.

      How many aides are needed to help Biden debate prep?

      4 to alternate playing Trump
      4 to help Biden to and from the stage
      4 to keep his IV meds going
      4 to change his diaper

  7. Dear Prof Turley,

    This is all classified far above Judge Cannon’s fodder. That’s the heart of it. These documents are too dangerous, and too secret, even for Presidents to possess .. . much less Trump-appointed judges.

    I’m not even sure if AG Garland has been briefed.

    *They should take this on over to the FISC court (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court), where there is no pretense of a ‘public defense’.

    1. Too dangerous for a president to possess? Are you out of your mind? So what are you saying, only the Illuminati should get to see them? Bwahahahaha!

  8. Former Trump Attorney:

    Cannon “Dragging This Out”

    Michael van der Veen, an ex-attorney to former President Trump, argued the judge overseeing the classified documents case is “playing right into the defense’s hands” by slow-walking pretrial decisions.

    When asked Monday if Judge Aileen Cannon is “just dragging this thing out,” van der Veen said, “She certainly seems to be taking a lot longer than is possibly necessary.”

    “She’s asking too many other people that come in and give their opinions; the amicus curia brief that she’s invited. It’s just very unusual,” he said. “It’s really important when on the bench to give your decisions, well-reasoned, but also timely, and to continue to give people time to supplement the arguments and supplement evidence. It isn’t doing the justice any good, it’s really playing … right into the defense’s hand.”

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4738379-michael-van-der-veen-donald-trump-aileen-cannon-classified-documents-case/

    1. Former Trump Lawyer Rips Judge Cannon

      Former White House lawyer Ty Cobb ripped U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon on Thursday after it was reported she rejected calls to recuse herself from Donald Trump’s classified documents case.

      Cobb, who worked in Trump’s White House, has long insisted that rather than simply being incompetent, as some analysts have maintained, Cannon is deliberately throwing a wrench into the case to help the former president. Her decision to hold hearings on the legality of Smith’s appointment as special counsel has given her critics yet more ammunition on this front.

      Cobb then criticized Cannon’s decision to hold a hearing on Smith’s appointment, calling it “silly.”

      “The fact she doesn’t deny most of these motions without a hearing is silly,” he added. “The fact that Trump can get a hearing on the flimsiest arguments is shocking.

      https://www.mediaite.com/crime/ex-trump-white-house-lawyer-excoriates-judge-cannon-as-petty-partisan-prima-donna-who-entertains-trumps-flimsiest-arguments/

  9. Professor Turley,

    Every first-year law student learns about the seminal case, Morrison v. Olson, a near unanimous SCOTUS decision from 1988 that upheld the constitutionality of selecting an independent counsel. Yet, you argue repeatedly that this issue has not been settled by SCOTUS. It absolutely has.

    Moreover, there is a 150-year old “history and tradition” (in the parlance of our current Court) of special counsel appointments in the United States. Presidents Ulysses S. Grant and Teddy Roosevelt both used independent special counsels. Never once has a court anywhere in America considered them unconstitutional.

    1. “Yet, you [JT] argue repeatedly that this issue has not been settled by SCOTUS. It absolutely has.”

      You’ve misrepresented his argument. But I suspect that it is pointless to explain your error.

    2. The question presented in Morrison is different than here (in Morrison there was a statute that authorized the appointment). Also if you read Scalia’s dissent you’ll see that he was the only Justice whose opinion was actually based on the Constitution. So the 8 were wrong and the 1 was right (yeah, that can happen).

      1. “The question presented in Morrison is different than here (in Morrison there was a statute that authorized the appointment).”

        Which is, of course, JT’s point — that no *post-Morrison appointment* has been settled by SCOTUS.

  10. Cannon is laying the groundwork for malicious prosecution charges against Smith, Bratt, et al.

      1. Now that Assange is out perhaps Hillary’s time is over. God hear my prayers and justice for Seth Rich.

  11. Oh, the modern left’s motives and methods are pretty dang clear at this point, and I’d be more surprised if they *weren’t* harassing her for upholding the Constitution and rule of law. They are petty, childish, predictable, borderline sick; and it is more glaringly apparent to just about anyone with every passing day. Their pathetic canard of a hashtag, obviously conceived of by 29 year-olds, ‘bidenomics’ is impossible for anyone to ignore or be gaslit by. No, really: nobody is buying this sheet anymore, and that is before we even get to the border or Congressional and legal malfeasance.

    And incidentally, this is a preview of how fair the ‘debate’ will be. CNN only agreed for the gotcha factor, to further spread their propaganda, and for ratings, because if you aren’t a corpse, trapped in an airport, or some unlucky person overseas who has no other recourse for American news, you aren’t watching otherwise.

    There is nothing, absolutely nothing redeemable about the modern left, and anyone that still thinks they are on the side of right and non-dems are all bigots dreaming of ways to slit the throats of their gay neighbors or are slaves to some invented ‘Fox News’ mentality (which I have never watched, not once, in my entire existence. Haven’t even had cable tv or an antenna since 1999) – grow the eff up, already. Seriously. I’d really like to think you aren’t children and I’m in the country with other grownups; the modern left disavows me of that notion on a daily basis, and ‘liberals’ in their 50s are some of the worst offenders. I don’t know how to catch them up on the 30+ years they have paid no attention to whatsoever.

    As an aside, my wife and I just received our copy of ‘The Indispensable Right’, and we can’t wait to dive in! 😊

    1. There’s nothing “borderline” about these people – they are extremely mentally warped and broken.

    2. You should start with Marx and discover his penchant for violent revolution and overthrow.

      Oops!

      That’s precisely what Lincoln did.

  12. Good article, but the media’s position is not “baffling”. It is Pravda Propaganda a la Bernays. And the so called legal “experts” are also part of the communist coup. Fortunately, this Judge knows tyranny when she sees it and is unafraid. God bless her.

  13. THE JUDICIAL POWER IS VESTED IN THE SUPREME COURT – BAD BEHAVIOUR IS ACTIONABLE

    There must soon come a time when the Supreme Court is required to exert itself, reestablish order, and support the Constitution, as it is sworn to do. 

    The first order of business is to extirpate the 34 fraudulently, conspiratorially, and criminally obtained felony convictions against President Donald J. Trump, followed by criminal indictments of the flagrantly corrupt lower court judges, district attorneys, and officials of the Justice Department. 
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Article 3, Section 1

    The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

    1. The Court can (and should) reverse Trump’s convictions, but can’t prosecute anyone.

    2. The judicial Power of the United States is vested in the Supreme Court. A prosecution by the State of New York is not within that judicial power, and SCOTUS has neither the duty nor the power to interfere with it unless some federal issue can be raised.

      1. A federal issue has been raised: violation of the 14A’s Due Process Clause.

      2. The Supreme Court can EXERT itself.

        The Supreme Court EXERTED itself in flagrant corruption in Roe v. Wade, 1973 which is undeniable and proven by Dobbs, 2022, and persisted for 50 years.

  14. “The politicians, the press, and pundits are in a feeding frenzy around Judge Aileen Cannon, the federal judge presiding in the Florida case against former President Donald Trump. There is a torrent of hit pieces and petty attacks on virtually every media platform.”

    – Professor Turley
    _____________________

    These communist propaganda and indoctrination apparatuses are feeding lies and preaching to the communist choir, simply to firm their political base.

    They have no intent of presenting the facts or the truth. 

    The best example is the communists’ criticism of the plodding pace of Judge Aileen Cannon, while one of their signature cases, from “1995 or 1996” (the plaintiff didn’t even know the correct and specific year of her bogus claim), long ago exceeded the statute of limitations and is nearly 30 years old. 

  15. In all of the complaints lodged against Judge Cannon the allegations are speculative and unsupported by any evidence. In shutting down any further such complaints against Judge Cannon, Chief Judge William Pryor Jr. of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit decided the obvious that the complaints are partisan and have nothing to do with Cannon’s actual performance in adhering to judicial ethics rules.
    https://news.yahoo.com/news/court-stops-taking-complaints-against-230300918.html

    1. I would note that while the 11th ct of appeals improperly restrained Cannon in the Trump Civil Trial, that even their decision was NOT that Cannon was WRONG, but that she was premature. That challenges to evidence obtained by warrant are properly the domain of Criminal procedings. Not Civil ones.

      That was actual error on the part of the 11th ct of appeals – Evidence obtained by Warrant can be challenged in a civil proceding. It is not the norm, but it has still happened many times before.

      Regardless even if you accept the 11th ct of appeals are correct – premature is NOT wrong.

  16. Jonathan, your missive “What is impressive is the complete lack of self-awareness over the hypocrisy of these attacks.”
    can be applied DITTO, given the voracity of some of the Comment-Jokers on this Blog.
    Lest we run out of typeface naming them all in their numerous permutations.
    “partisan, petty prima donna, “wacko, crazy, loony, nutty, ridiculous, and outlandish,” and “left-wing(sic) hack.”
    Brands this clutch of Jokers to the Tee.

    Nah Na Na Nah Na 😛

  17. See below, as Gigi is outed for her constant lies.

    I am almost surprised you showed your face today Gigi

    But then again I am not, because you have zero shame and even less self respect.

    Pathological LIAR

    As to inflation that was above 8% when Trump left office, it has consistently gone down month by month, thanks to Joe Biden’s fiscal responsibility and leadership.
    —-Gigi the pathological LIAR

    I never said that and you know it
    —Gigi the Pathological LIAR

    https://jonathanturley.org/2023/08/29/raffensperger-and-meadows-testify-in-key-hearing-in-federal-court-on-georgia-allegations/comment-page-2/#comment-2318372

    1. I admit that I didn’t recall that post from August of last year, but according to Wikileaks, the US inflation rate in 2021–2022 did get as high as 8%—one major reason was supply chain disruptions, due, according to experts, to Trump’s stupid tariffs, which he wants to expand upon if he somehow gets back into office. His mishandling of COVID yielded the statistic that the US had 20% of COVID deaths but only 4% of the world’s population.

      Tom, Waters, or whatever name you’re using now, how many hours did you spend trying to discredit me? Why do you employ the same ad hominem attack tactics instead of providing substantive responses to what I post?

      I generally cite whatever sources I obtain information from, to which you respond with junior high level profanity and name calling. If you think that you’re going to get rid of me with your childish behavior, you’re dead wrong.

      1. Ahhhh, Gig

        Not so fast, there, big mouth.

        I admit that I didn’t recall that post from August of last year,

        Despite the fact that I brought it up NUMEROUS times since then, and asked you to answer for it. But you were too busy screeching your next lie. You’ve screeched out a few more in this post. In fact, your inflation lie was posted on the Lefty Turd Farm for weeks. I guess I need to bring that back, just for you. You’ve told so many lies here, it’s not surprising that you can’t keep up, big mouth.

        but according to Wikileaks, the US inflation rate in 2021–2022 did get as high as 8%

        Do you get a lot of your false info from Wikileaks? LMAO WTF is that? Julian would be proud of you. This is your problem. NUMEROUS times I have provided you the link to the goddam OFFICIAL US inflation rate page. You refuse to use it. I guess so you can have an excuse for your LIES. SOURCES MATTER, big mouth.

        the US inflation rate in 2021–2022 did get as high as 8%

        Yea, so fvcking what? It reached it’s peak in JUNE 2022, at 9.1%, big mouth. That’s a far cry from “when Trump left office.” You have also said repeatedly since August that it’s “consistently coming down”. Another LIE. It has been between 3.0 and 4.1 since last June. You get that? ITS NOT COMING DOWN. It was 3.0 Last June and 3.3 last month.

        one major reason was supply chain disruptions, due, according to experts, to Trump’s stupid tariffs, which he wants to expand upon if he somehow gets back into office.

        Anyone who says supply chain disruptions were caused by tariffs is a moron, and so is anyone who believes that. You’re a low IQ bottom feeder. Please don’t pretend to understand the impact of tariffs on all things economic, even with someone trying to explain it to you.

        Why did Biden keep the tariff’s, almost entirely, big mouth, if they were so bad? In fact
        President Biden is directing his Trade Representative to increase tariffs under Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 on $18 billion of imports from China to protect American workers and businesses.. Did you sleep thru that? Wait, where is that spike in inflation from that??? Is it now “Biden’s stupid tariff’s”? This is why you can’t be taken seriously.

        The inflation was caused by printing $6T. You’ve been told this NUMEROUS times, big mouth. Do you ever wonder WHY I keep catching you in these LIES that you peddle? When you pump that much money into an economy, what DO YOU expect to happen? Nothing??? Economists predicted that before it ever happened.

        His mishandling of COVID yielded the statistic that the US had 20% of COVID deaths but only 4% of the world’s population.

        Oh it “yielded a statistic” did it? Thanks for proving my assessment of you as a low IQ bottom feeder. I laughed out loud at an article I read trying to “calculate the Covid deaths due to Trump’s casual mask use”. Funny, I never see a story about how many deaths Fauci caused when the pandemic was RAGING and he said “there’s no reason to be walking around with a mask.” Then later when he said this: “From a broad public-health standpoint, at the population level, masks work at the margins — maybe 10 percent”.

        3 of the 4 largest peaks in Covid daily deaths were under JOE BIDEN. Do I blame him. NO. Because I can think for myself and understand EVERYTHING that went in to that. Do I blame Trump for the 1/3 of the deaths that happened on his watch? LMAO, I’ll leave that to the low IQ bottom feeders.

        US had 20% of COVID deaths

        See THAT. You just can’t stop lying. The US has just over 17.4% of Covid deaths. Not counting that fact that many countries STOPPED reporting, so the number is likely much less. Why would you lie about that?? The medical journals say that makes you pathological.

        Tom, Waters, or whatever name you’re using now, how many hours did you spend trying to discredit me?

        It’s pretty obvious that I use the name Waters, isn’t it? What’s it to you, Natasha? Why did you lie about your occupation? You’re no attorney and we all know it. Even your cubicle mate, Svelaz-George said so. It took me about 3 hours, if that matters. It’s called research. Try it before you open that fat mouth again. I had a fun walk down memory lane with all the times I gutted you and Dennis. Go check it out. It’s juvenile fun!!

        Maybe I wouldn’t have bothered if you hadn’t goaded me on 3 separate occasions. Would you like me to post those as well? You’re the juvenile here, with all your screeching and lying about even stupid inconsequential shit.

        Why do you employ the same ad hominem attack tactics instead of providing substantive responses to what I post?

        Look back above this line. See all that??? Now look below. See all that?? That’s what it takes to respond to your keyboard diarrhea of lies with a substantive response. And you do it for that very reason. You puke up all that bile and sit back and admire it, knowing no one will waste their time rebutting all of your NONSENSE. And that was one of your shorter tirades.

        So lets look at when I did give a substantive response, and corrected you on the 12th Amendment. For 2 weeks, all you would say is that you were repeating what Turley said. Which was a lie! It was either or lie, or again, your are just a low IQ bottom feeder. It was plain to EVERYONE but you, the “experienced attorney”, what Turley said the “problem” was. The “problem” was losing the Florida electors, not that both the Pres and VP couldn’t be from the same state. I referred you to the TEXT a half dozen times. Did you correct your NONSENSE? No, you just ran off to your next lie, as you always do.

        I generally cite whatever sources I obtain information from

        Vox is not a source. The Guardian is not a source. Media-ite for christ’s sake, is NOT a source. I got the information on Texas electricity production from the Texas Department of Public Utilities. You got it from Rachel Maddow. Rachel Maddow is NOT a source. Your shit eating response was “neither you nor I have personal knowledge”. Fvck off with that NONSENSE. You look like an IDIOT. I got the information on the DC National Guard on their website. You got it from The Atlantic. I got the 12th Amendment meaning by reading, oh shit, the 12th amendment. I don’t know where the fvck you got yours. I got the inflation stats by going to the US Bureau. You got it from Wiki-whatever-the-fvck. You look like an IDIOT

        I generally cite whatever sources I obtain information from

        The really galling part about that ridiculous statement is the way you come in here and accuse people of being “brainwashed by alt-right media”, and then blame your ignorant statements on your shit “sources”. So what say you NEVER impugn “Trumpers alt right media” again?

        My “attacks” on you are not ad hom. They come with all the substantiation in the world.
        YOU’RE the one who leads with ad hom like “Karen S, you should stop letting your weak mind be brainwashed by Fox news.” Kunt. See that? I substantiated it, and then I labeled you appropriately.

        So yea, I treat you like an 8th grader, because that’s what you appear to be. You don’t like my profanity? I’m going to assume that your gender is just as fake as everything else about you, and say that if you were standing in front of me, screeching at me and calling me a liar when I told you that you said inflation was 8%, or questioning my service to my country, insinuating that I am stealing valor, you’d be missing some teeth from that fat mouth. I’m not a violent person, but shutting you up would just be too much fun.

  18. Of course rich entitled lefties are going crazy. They do not know what struggle is or to live in a dangerous and/or communist country. We Cuban Americans are laughing at them every day in Miami. Ignorant, fellow travelers or useful idiots. Stay in your Blue States.

    1. See below, as the unconvicted pedophile from Ohio, Dennis the COCK SUCKING liar, apologizes for his conduct and that of his fellow child molesters.

      1. It seems judge Cannon’s inexperience is still a problem. Her pointed questions and having prosecutors explain to her basic legal issues over and over is adding more reasons to have her removed. The longer she holds these motion hearings and needs of explanation the more she shows she is just not the right person for the job.

        Defense attorneys are arguing that the special counsel is too independent. Huh? That he should be under more supervision by Garland which is the opposite of what Trump is saying. That Garland is controlling Smith. Both can’t be true. So who is lying, Trump or his lawyers?

        1. Cannon is having prosecutors explain THEIR failures in Basic legal matters over and over.

          It is Bratt that has his fingerprints all over improper actions from even before Smith was appointed as SC,
          It is Bratt who according to affadavits tried to bribe/blackmail A co-defendants attorney into getting that person to flip.
          Bratt does NOT deny the FACTS in the claim and is arguing that somehow the Context makes bribery/blackmail acceptable.
          It is the SC/FBI that have botched chain of custody and record keeping of the evidence such that much of the evidence may have to be thrown out.
          It is the SC that REPEATED files motions or replies that FAIL to provide either the FACTS or the caselaw to support their claims.

          Cannon has REPEATEDLY given the SC multiple chances to get the facts and the law right in their motions and replies – rather than simply dismissing them which she is free to do so.

          You rant about Cannon’s inexperience – yet SHE is expecting Trump’s attorney’s and Smiths to do their job properly.

          I would further note that it is SC Smith that has th Decades long reputation of being sloppy and stretching the law.
          Aside from the other issues that have been raised regarding Smith’s appointment, it is arguable that Garland appointed Smith as a favor to Trump,
          As Smith is the most likely person to thoroughly botch this proscution – and we see that over and over.

          Nearly every criticism of SC Smith is something that SC/FBI could have done right and avoided giving Trump an issue to attack.

          The DOJ/FBI could have resisted the urge to create the FAKE photo Op with the MAL documents – and avoided the embarrassment of having to admit that they had falsified evidence.
          They could have stayed within the 4 corners of the Warrant – not rumaging through Malania’s undergarmenthey s and Barron Trump’s bedroom, coming up with nothing but embarrassment.
          They could have coordinated the raid with Secret Service – do those of you on the left actually beleive that the Secret Service is Trump’s personal army ?
          They could have notified Trump’s attorney’s – which is near universal norm.
          They could have avoided serving the warrant in the most dangerous way possible in hopes of a photo op.
          They could have avoided the Warrant entirely – as the Entire DC FBI office has testified that Trump was cooperating and that the Warrant was driven SOLELY by Bratt and the DOJ.

          NARA could have gone to court at the start – where they would have been turned down – based on the PRA and this whole mess would have ended.
          Bratt could have sought to have his Subpeona enforced – which would have likely gone to SCOTUS which would have told Bratt that subpeonas are to obtain access to information, NOT to take posession.

          Cannon’s job would have been far easier from the start – if the SC and his minions would just have done their jobs correctly.

          But had that been the case – Smith would not be SC and this case never would have happened.

        2. Defense attorneys are arguing that to be constitutional the SC can not be independent.
          And they are ALSO arguing that the SC must be independent to be constitutional.

          Both are true and if SC Smith had been properly appointed neither would be a problem.

          This is called arguing in the alternative.

          If Smith is NOT a superior officer of the United states – then he MUST be supervised by DOJ and he can not initiate investigations, enpannel grand juries, file charges and prosecute cases on his own.

          If Smith IS a superior officer of the United States – then he CAN do all of the above, BUT he also must be appointed by the president and confirmed by Congress.

          And all of the above ignores the elephant in the room – there is no SC Statute passed by congress – the DOJ can not create an office out of whole cloth, that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL

          We had an independent counsel statute – it was allowed to expire.

          I would note that without an SC Statute the DOJ CAN investigate cases where there are conflicts of interest, But it CAN NOT do so by creating a separate US
          And all of the above ignores the elephant in the room – there is no SC Statute passed by congress – the DOJ can not create an office out of whole cloth, that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL

          We had an independent counsel statute – it was allowed to expire.

          I would note that without an SC Statute the DOJ CAN investigate cases where there are conflicts of interest, But it CAN NOT do so by creating a separate US office.

          The simplest way would be to take an EXISTING US attorney that has no discernable bias and assign the case to that USA with carefull management of the interactions between that USA and the rest of DOJ.

          Except for Mueller that is LOOSELY what was done with every prior SC appointment. While Technically the AG/DOJ can not create an “independent special counsel”.
          They probably can constitutionally delegate a prosecution to a specific US Attorney and construct a firewall arround that USA to deal with the conflict of interest.

          Absolutely Cannon should be asking for detailed legal briefs on an issue that is a case of first impression in the 11th circuit, that has not been decided by SCOTUS and that challenges in other federal circuits have NOT been subject to consequential constitutional scrutiny.

        3. Arguing that if SC Smith is NOT an officer of the United States – that he therfore CAN NOT be independent,
          But that is he is an officer of the United States he MUST BE CONFIRMED is not lying.

          It is noting that DOJs arguments do not work no matter what they claim.

        4. As Turley noted the senate confirmed her in a bi-partsan vote. If she is not sufficiently experienced – that is an error on the part of the senate – and specifially senate democrats.

          There are many inexperienced and unqualified Federal Judges today – a FEW are republicans and MANY are democrats.
          These were nearly all the result of partisan confermations.

        5. Please name a SINGLE basic legal issue that Bratt and co have had to explain to Cannon.

          For the mot part, Cannon has been remarkably patient with a prosecution that is not merely corrupt but incompetent.
          On numerous occasions – she has given them a 2nd chance when they failed to cite facts and law to suport their arguments when she could have just dismissed their claims entirely

          In others, she and her clerks have found the law that SC smith did not deign to look for and given Smith a partial win, when a less competent of forgiving judge would have let him go down in his own flames.

  19. Jonathan: DJT is facing sentencing on July 11 before Judge Merchan. But DJT is not the only Republican in this predicament. In North Dakota a former powerful state lawmaker is also facing sentencing. His name is former state GOP Senator Roy Holmberg. What’s this about?

    Holmberg just pled guilty yesterday to traveling to Europe (Prague) with the intent to have sex with a minor and receiving images depicting child sexual abuse. It appears Holmberg has been traveling to Europe for years (between 2011 and 2019) using state funds. He spent more money on foreign travel than any other state legislator. We now know why. Holmberg was a powerful man in the N. Dakota legislature (serving between 1976 and 2022) where he was Chair of the state Appropriations Committee. In 2020 a man alleges he was sexually assaulted by Holmberg in 2010, after having been invited to the Senator’s Miami condo.

    Holmberg is now facing a max of 30 years in prison and a $250,000 fine–as well as lifetime supervision. The charge of receiving child porn alone carries a minimum of 5 years in prison. But strangely, because Holmberg is 80 yrs of age, prosecutors are recommending only 3 to 4 years in prison and will dismiss the charge of receipt of child porn. A lot of people in N. Dakota are outraged. One person posted this: “He had his brand of fun ruining the lives of children for decades. He should get the same sentence as anyone else!”.

    Two observations. First, powerful politicians who are White often get more lenient sentences–even for those engaging in “child sex tourism”. Second, this case illustrates the hypocrisy of the GOP that preaches “family values” and the need for posting the Ten Commandments in public places. The Christian MAGA right supports a “convicted felon” but spends most of its time chasing alleged LGBTQ+ “predators” who it claims are trying to convert children into “sordid sex”.

    There is a disconnect here. The GOP passes laws against the LGBTQ+ community but its members are the ones actually having sex with minors. Matt Gaetz is another case in point. When will he be held accountable?

    1. Dennis

      See below, as Gigi is outed for her constant lies.

      I am almost surprised you showed your face today Gigi

      But then again I am not, because you have zero shame and even less self respect.

      Pathological LIAR

      As to inflation that was above 8% when Trump left office, it has consistently gone down month by month, thanks to Joe Biden’s fiscal responsibility and leadership.
      —-Gigi the pathological LIAR

      I never said that and you know it
      —Gigi the Pathological LIAR

      https://jonathanturley.org/2023/08/29/raffensperger-and-meadows-testify-in-key-hearing-in-federal-court-on-georgia-allegations/comment-page-2/#comment-2318372

    2. Dennis, I am unfamiliar with the details of the Holmberg case and would not trust you to get anything right.

      You are trying to make some bizzare political argument – yet you ignore the FACT that there are plenty of democrats convicted of sex crimes.
      And more still that face no scrutiny despite credible allegations.

      Hunter Biden transported prostitutes accross state lines, for his own use and that of others at his “parties”. It is unclear whether these may have been eastern europeans forced into prostitution

      Ashley Biden’s Diary discusses Joe Biden showering with her as a pre-teen – again no investigation.
      Tara Reade has far more credibly claimed that Joe Biden raped her than any claim by Ford, or the nut job in Manhattan – again no investigation.

      I am away of no credible evidence that Republicans are more prone to sexual misconduct or criminal conduct than Democrats.
      It is more likely that the latter is true as The left is more prone to adopt a flexible moral code.

      But presuming that Holmberg was properly investigated – as opposed to subject to a partisan witch hunt, and that the evidence is actually compelling and warrants conviction,
      again something that is increasingly hard to trust as left wing nuts take over the courts,

      Peodophilia is a significant problem. Criminals and perverts come from all political ideologies.

      I would ask you what the difference is between Holmberg going to Europe to have sex with a Teen and Left Wing nut teachers sexualizing pre-school and kindergarteners ?

      I would further object with respect to this specific case that Traveling to a foreign country for the purpose of having sex with a minor should NOT be a US crime.
      First because the US does not have and should not claim global jurisdiction over its citizens or anyone else. If Holmberg had sex with someone underage in a foreign country – the legal system of that country should prosecute.
      Next because there NEVER should be crimes of pure intention. Having sex with someone underage is a crime – desiring sex with someone underage should not be.

      Next we have The Biden WH ranting about “deep Fakes” – while the WH is without credibility trying to claim that unedited network video is really fake, the one point they have correct is that it is possible to fake most anyvideo today. I personally find Child porn disguesting and those who view and collect it disgusting, Unlike you I am NOT willing to compel others to meet my moral standards. The production of ACTUAL child porn should be illegal. The production of fake child porn should not. The posession of Child porn should not be illegal.

      If Holman actually did the things you claimed he should be reviled and removed from office. If he actually had sex with under age in foreign countries those countries should prosecute him.

      All the above is true whether Holman is a republican or a Democrat.

    3. DOJ refused to persue Gaetz, and his accuser is the target of a defamation lawsuit.

      If you have evidence that DOJ does not – please provide it to them.

    4. “First, powerful politicians who are White often get more lenient sentences–even for those engaging in “child sex tourism”.”
      Probably true – but do you have EVIDENCE to support that claim ?
      I would note that powerful politicians who are black often escape investigation, charges or get lenient sentences too.

      ” Second, this case illustrates the hypocrisy of the GOP that preaches “family values” and the need for posting the Ten Commandments in public places. ”
      How so ? This MIGHT indicate hypocracy on the part of Holman, but how does this make the GOP more hypocritical ?

      A significant portion of the child sex abuse cases that my Wife gets involve Amishmen. Obviously these is hypocracy involving the specific offenders
      But are you claiming that the Amish as a whole are hypocrits because some Amish abuse children ?

      Does the fact that Hunter Biden had a million dollar a year crack/alcohol and prostitute addiction – mean that all democrats are druggies ?

      “The Christian MAGA right supports a “convicted felon””
      Correct – and far more than just “Christian MAGA” most people have concluded the Manhattan Trial was a sham and expect that it will eventually be correctly overturned.

      “but spends most of its time chasing alleged LGBTQ+ “predators” who it claims are trying to convert children into “sordid sex”.”
      False. Most of the country wants sex out of our schools.

      Conservatives abandoned rising star Milo Yanopolis hen he tried to defend the priest who had sex with him at 13.

      Conservtives accepted all of Yanopolis’s gay flamboyance – UNTIL he started to defend pedophila.

      I doubt there are money conservatives defending Holman.

      Gaetz allegedly had sex with a 17yr old – that is legal in most of the country.
      That said Gaetz suorters would abandon him if that allegation proved true – legal or not.
      Gaetz’s support holds because the story does not.

      The Christian community – including MAGA Christians and Catholics tend to continue to see homosexuality as a sin. But so is lying. The catholic church no longer bars homosexuals from sacrements – it is just another sin, like many others. Evangelical christians have taken a similar approach. It has ALWAYS been both a biblical direction and a core to evanglical christianity to “hate the sin, but love the sinner” – those of you on the left do not seem to be able to appreciate that others are capable of accepting people whose conduct they deem immoral without condoning the conduct.

      Regardless, the conflicts between christian conservatives and the LGBTQ+ today are in the narrow areana where that conduct directly impacts others.

      These would be MTF trans competing in domains that have traditionally been exclusively womens.
      Allowing people who Claim to be Trans to be given unsuprevised access to children not their own.

      Without addressing whether the LGBTQ community is or is not more likely to commit sex crimes – it is absolutely certain that Pedophiles wil assume ANY identity in order to gain access to children. There is no genetic test, no blood test for Gayness or Trans. There is no test for peodophilia. Much of the country – especially parents is rightly dubious of efforts to sexualize children. After all “What could go Wrong ?”

      There seems to be nothing more damaging to a child than sexual abuse at a young age. Few ever get over it. It ruins entire lives, Many abused go on to become abusers. We cn have sympathy, but MUST at the same time break the cycle.

      Very few conservatives are opposed to anything LGBTQ+ that is in the control of Parents – though I would note that a significant portion of child sexual abuse is within the family.

      I would further note that the left has been ridiculously hypocritical over this pushing the destruction of the catholic church, and the boy scouts – because they hate those organizations. Over conduct that you are perfectly happy to tolerate in schools done by teachers. That you even seek to incorporate it into the institutions.

      “The GOP passes laws against the LGBTQ+ community”
      No the GOP seeks to preserve the laws that have protected children from sexual abuse for centuries.

      It is the left that seems to think there is some special exception to the rules of conduct arround children that members of the LGBTQ+ community are afforded.

      Teachers delving into sexual topics with children si immoral and often illegal whether the teacher is LGBTQ+ or heterosexual

      The laws do not target the LGBTQ+ community – they target those trying to sexualize children.

      “but its members are the ones actually having sex with minors.”
      Conservatives do not support anyone having sex with minors – not Holman, not Weiner, Not Biden. Not heterosexuals, not LGBTQ+ – no exceptions.

      “Matt Gaetz is another case in point. When will he be held accountable?”
      The Biden DOJ dropped the investigation – do YOU know something they do not ?
      I have yet to hear a CREDIBLE allegations that Gaetz had sex with a minor.
      But if there is one – his support will evaporate.

      You need more than an allegation.

Comments are closed.