Today I am returning from a few days in Nashville. I have always loved this city and came back with two of my sons as part of my book tour. We had a ball from the great food to the amazing music to the outstanding historical sites. Even with temperatures at 100 (and even higher with humidity), we loved every minute in Nashville.
When we arrived in the city, we immediately went to a local favorite, Hattie B’s. While Prince’s is another favorite, the sauces at this “chicken shack” are a crowd pleaser. However, be warned: when they say “hot” they mean it. There are three categories of heat with the middle being the range that most of us are used to.
I went with the “hot” option in the middle category and, despite liking hot and spicy food, it was a bit too hot for me. However, it was delicious. I particularly liked the Pimento Mac & Cheese.
For dinner, we went to Jack’s Bar-B-Que in the middle of the music scene on the West End. It was awesome. The boys had the brisket sandwiches and found them addictive. I had the ribs and loved them. (I think, however, I might go with the brisket the next time after tasting their dishes). This is some of the best Bar-B-Que that you are going to find.
That night, we went to various bars to hear the live music. When you walk down the street, it is a cacophony of sounds from live music in dozens of bars. We went to various bars and had a great deal until I let the boys head off without their buzz-kill father (There were some perfunctory objections before they ran off to a loud bar down the street).
The next day we visited the Tennessee State Museum, which has a fantastic collection. It has a impressive collection that stretches across time, including informative films on everything from the geologic history of Tennessee to the Civil Rights period. It is free and I could not recommend it more highly. (For military history buffs like myself, it was also fun to see the rifle and kit of Sgt. Alvin York from World War I). There is also a great farmer’s market and food court next door.
Near the museum is also the State Capitol. We loved the visit. You can walk into the House and Senate floor as well as the original Tennessee Supreme Court chamber. There is also the burial place of James Polk (one of three Tennessee presidents with Andrew Jackson and Andrew Johnson). It is a beautiful building and the staff could not be more friendly.
We also ate at a new place that is a favorite among locals. On the way back from the museum, our cab driver said that he and many locals go to Peg Leg Porkers. We immediately asked him to drive us and it was awesome. (I was a bit less enthusiastic about the pull pork string rolls). The pulled pork and ribs were fantastic and it is clearly popular with locals.
My only regret is that our trip was too short to visit the Civil War locations. However, that just gives me an excuse to come back to this wonderful city.
Thank you, Nashville.
I have just a few questions about what we are seeing this evening.
I am not insinuating anything I am merely posing questions I have after watching the events of this evening, that I cannot answer myself.
1. I assume we all have seen the interview of the red head dude with the beard who was outside protesting who saw the shooter and said he tried for 4 or 5 minutes to point out to the police and Secret Service but they ignored him.
My question isn’t why did they ignore him, although that is one of them but we all share that question. That’s a question that needs to be answered big time. But there’s another.
My question is, if he was watching the shooter for 4 or 5 minutes and I believe he was, then why didn’t he take out his cell phone and video the shooter?
What this dude doesn’t own a cell phone?
2. Why did the Secret Service completely ignore protocol in shielding the President after shots had been fired and waltz him across the stage with his head and chest wide open?
Protocol is to completely shield the President and push his head down. Pushing the head down is critical to protection and they failed to do this.
In fact, they not only failed to push his head down, but they allowed him to stand erect, exposing his head and chest to the crowd and any other potential snipers in it or positioned nearby.
3. And a big one, is why in the world did they stop walking and pause for what apparently turned out to be an amazing photo op?
Why didn’t they follow protocol and hustle him right out of there? How’d they know there wasn’t another sniper out there?
They stopped, mid stage, …right under the American flag where the lead agent stops, looks right into a photographers camera while the President fist pumps the crowd, directly under the American flag.
Is this some new secret service protocol I’m unfamiliar with?
So those are 3 glaring questions I can’t shake and that so far no one seems to be addressing, although I am sure as security experts start chiming in, they will be asked.
But for the moment, I haven’t an answer. Maybe some one has a plausible answer.
And for those who think I’m off base for asking, take a look at the Hinkley shooting of President Reagan.
What did you notice about Reagan in the video.
Nothing.
Because you can’t see him.
He’s completely smothered by Secret Service, head pushed down HARD and they don’t let them up. Doesn’t matter what the President says, they do NOT let his head be exposed again. Especially after he was just shot in it, or at least in the ear which is part of it.
Again I am not making any speculation’s of any kind. I am asking questions that I can’t answer.
I’m seeing this stuff unfold, but I’m not sure what it is exactly that we are seeing.
What is also weird is after the shooter was being pointed out for so long and nothing done, the snipers tagged the shooter within seconds, so they had line of sight- the roof peaks are aligned in the direction toward Trump so there was nowhere for the shooter to hide. (google maps sat view 3d and all)
So it appears at this point they let the shooter do it then blew his head off after he fired at least 3 times. It is unclear if more of the shots, I counted ten (there were hit or flight echos too from the shots).
The shooter may have gotten off up to 7 rounds, the 1st one hit Trump the next two followed the same speed pattern the 4th and beyond came faster after a delay after the 3rd.
Probably because these rallies attract all kinds of nut jobs. 2nd amendment supporters carrying their guns outside the security perimeter wouldn’t be seen as out of the ordinary at his rallies. Open carry is practiced at these rallies outside of the security zone. Republicans don’t think people openly carrying will do anything stupid. Perhaps the SS did too.
@George
That’s asinine. No one had any guns there. Time to troll is not now, show a little class.
As far as we know a former US President has been shot and while he’s ok its an attack on us all. What we need to answer now is what was the source of the attack and why did things transpire before and after the attack as they did.
“That’s asinine. No one had any guns there.”
Are you sure about that?
It’s a Trump rally where gun enthusiasts openly, responsibly carry their weapons as long as they are outside the security perimeter. It’s…normal for Trump supporters, no?
George lives in his own reality.
“Are you sure about that?”
Are you ?
“It’s a Trump rally where gun enthusiasts openly, responsibly carry their weapons as long as they are outside the security perimeter. It’s…normal for Trump supporters, no?”
You are correct that Trump supporter CAN legally open carry outside the security zone.
Do you have evidence that they DO ?
That it is Normal for them to do so ?
The only instance I know of Ever where Open Carry was used in conjuction with political protests or Free speech excercise was the armed peaceful protest at the Michigan capitol in May 2020 Before the Floyd riots.
2A supporters generally know that any kind of armed confrontation associated with a political event will play horribly on the news and risk their 2A rights.
There are occasionally staged Open Carry events these do NOT coincide with other political events, and they are telegraphed to law enforcement way ahead and done taking the recomendations of law enforcement.
“You are correct that Trump supporter CAN legally open carry outside the security zone.
Do you have evidence that they DO ?
That it is Normal for them to do so ?”
You just confirmed it’s possible. Plenty do. It’s expected. Especially at open carry states. Most rally goers don’t think anything of it because they support gun rights. None would think it’s out of the ordinary. The right LOVES to show they can openly exercise their constitutional right to carry comfortably and naturally at a Trump rally.
You’re confirming the obvious. While at the same time trying to dismiss the idea that Trump supporters open carry or even carry concealed guns at rallies outside the security zone.
“You just confirmed it’s possible.”
It is possible that the person the SS snipers shot was not the shooter.
It is highly improbable.
Just because something is not absolutley impossible does not make it true.
Massive logic error on your part.
” Plenty do.”
Again you have strongly asserted something as fact that is both unlikely and that no evidence exists for.
“It’s expected.”
Now you are making absolute claims that require mind reading and knowledge of other peoples motives.
But you are asserting you Ouija board conclusions as fact.
“Especially at open carry states.”
Duh, only criminals open carry is states where open carry is illegal.
“Most rally goers don’t think anything of it because they support gun rights. ”
More Ouija board mind reading.
“None would think it’s out of the ordinary.”
Of course they would.
Do you have any evidence of 2A supporters EVER mixing open carry with politics or even significant public events.
These people are nut left wing nuts – looking for the worst possible case to bring to the supreme court to protect their rights.
But then again your telepathic skills trump reality – you KNOW how 2A and Trump supporters think.
“The right LOVES to show they can openly exercise their constitutional right to carry comfortably and naturally at a Trump rally.”
Again actual EVIDENCE ?
Something other than your Betazoid empath abiility to sense the thoughts feelings and motivations of Trump and 2A supporters – who BTW are different sets with some overlap, they are not the same thing.
“You’re confirming the obvious. ”
What is obvious is that you jump to conclusions without evidence and waste enormous effort reading the minds of people you know nothing about, yet are certain that you are expert on their behavior and motives.
“While at the same time trying to dismiss the idea that Trump supporters open carry or even carry concealed guns at rallies outside the security zone.”
In PA Concealed carry requires a license.
Regardless it is not obvious at all that Trump supporters would Open (or concealed carry) at or near an event where there will be lots of Secret Service and police and where tensions regarding firearms would be high and being found with a firearm could get you detained for sometime at best and at worst might get you killed.
Somewhere in the world is some permutation of this mythical open carry at Trump events Trump/2A supporter.
Nuts unfortunately come in all flavors – even if there are far more left wing nuts than other kinds.
There are some on this site who are active 2A supporters – are you telling us you know their feelings and thoughts better than they do ?
One of my close friends was in Law enforcement, is definitely a Trump supporter, is definitely a 2A supporter and has engaged in Open Carry on trips with me. Further he is a bit whacky in some of his beleifs.
I have NEVER seen him open carry in any circumstance where the odds of encountering law enforcement are high.
There is no reason to. Unlike your claims – people do not open carry to make political statements.
They open carry when they expect to be in dangerous situations – like parts of Baltimore – not a Trump rally or someplace where there are plenty of police.
But the idiocy of your claim should be obvious from the fact that No J6 protestors had Firearms in the capitol or on the capitol grounds.
Possibly as many as 5000 people participated in the events at the capitol – as opposed to the prior Trump speech at the Ellipsis.
While none of these people expected to end up in a conflict with the Capitol Police. They did expect to directly encounter the Capitol Police.
People open carry because they might have to deal with criminals. Not where they are certain to encounted a large police presence.
An AR rifle 130 yards from the stage would get LOTS of attention.
People arent walking around rural PA with AR-15s and camo.
You’re a deluded idiot.
It’s rural Pennsylvania, rifles and cammo are common. It’s hunting country out there.
Being that they do use AR’s for hunting it wouldn’t be surprising.
130 yards with .223 is a 3 foot putt.
You’re a fvcking moron if you think that would be allowed at a rally.
Yeah, it’s allowed at rallies as long as it’s in an open carry state and outside the security zone. Trump is against gun free zones.
What hunting season is it in PA right now, big mouth know it all George?
I didn’t say season. I said it’s hunting country. They teach hunting safety in schools in rural Pennsylvania. Guns are a normal everyday thing there. People carrying a gun at a Trump rally in Pennsylvania outside the security zone wouldn’t be strange or alarming.
@George
You can’t just make stuff up.
There isn’t one solitary photo, not one solitary video clip and not one solitary report of anyone walking around with guns.
Your suppositions don’t have any evidence behind them backing them up. They’re just your wacky ideas of what life’s like in rural areas.
Clearly you must be a city boy.
“There isn’t one solitary photo, not one solitary video clip and not one solitary report of anyone walking around with guns.”
What? Concealed carry isn’t a thing? Why would you expect a photo? Hasn’t it occurred to you that since it’s RURAL PENNSYLVANIA people aren’t going to be taking pictures of people carrying guns. It wouldn’t be out of the ordinary or unusual for people to carry a gun at a rally concealed or open. Much less a rifle slung over the shoulder.
I’m pointing out the fact that people at the rallies aren’t alarmed or suspicious of people open carrying or just being armed. They assume those people’s are responsible gun owners merely exercising their constitutional rights. It would be normal, expected, and think nothing of it.
Now, anyone carrying a gun or a rifle at a rally outside the security zone will be seen as a potential nut job or suspicious.
Hasn’t it occurred to you that since it’s RURAL PENNSYLVANIA people aren’t going to be taking pictures of people carrying guns. ”
Didn’t it occur to you that there were protesters there, lots of them.
Don’t you think a few of them might have owned a cell phone or two among them?
Did that ever occur to you?
Or more succinctly, who do you know these days who doesn’t own a cell phone with a camera?
If there were people walking around with guns, there’d be pictures all over liberal media.
“Didn’t it occur to you that there were protesters there, lots of them.”
So?
It’s still not unusual to have armed Trump supporters at his rallies where it’s legal. Protesters aren’t going to be taking pictures if it’s a normal thing at his rallies.
Being armed or open carrying is normal enough in rural Pennsylvania that nobody really gives it a second thought. Why would people be taking pictures? It’s not like they are on a safari trying to spot a rare occurrence.
https://www.visitbutlercounty.com/
While there is some Hunting in Butler County – just as there is in my county, Butler country is a short drive to Pittsburg – this is NOT the boonies.
Butler county has 3 times the population density of the US as a whole. This is not the backwoods of PA.
AR-15’s are used for Hunting – but not commonly Nearly all AR-15’s are a 22 caliber there is not much game you hunt with a .223
Nor would an AR-15 be a common open carry firearm.
I have thus far seen ONE report that has claimed the weapon used was an AR like rifle – without any source for that assertion. Of course to left wing nuts ALL rifles are AR like. I have heard one claim that the shot heard were likely small calibur – which would be consistent with an AR.
That said it is highly unlikely that anyone intending to assassinate Trump who knew what they were doing would have used an AR-15.
The Sniper was going to and only managed ONE carefully placed shot. Between the certain rapid response of Secret Service Snipers and the fact that you are not going to be able to carefully aim successive shots from a semi-automatic weapon, if your goal is to assassinate Trump – at the low end you would be using an ACTUAL hunting riffle with a much higher calibur bullet, or an accurate target shooting riffle.
You would pick something like an AR-!5 if you were doing something like the Las Vegas shooter and trying to spray a crowd and kill as many people as possible, and you would not likely pick a Trump rally where within seconds highly trained Secret Service Snipers would zero in on you.
Again you are going to get ONE aimed shot – you would pick a riffle that would give you high odds of success with that shot.
While a high end AR-15 with a .223 bullet and an expert shooter can put 5 rounds in a 1 inch group at 4-600 yards.
That is probably the limit. An AR-15 can shoot 3 times that far but getting that range means using like a mortar not a rifle.
A bolt action .308 has double the range with a similarly expert shooter.
An expert is someone with thousands of hours of experience.
The assassin has been identified as a 20yr old. It is highly unlikely that he is expert.
There is also a difference between shooting on a range, and shooting quickly after climbing onto a roof while the Secret Service Snipers zero in on you.
Again – your getting one shot under pressure.
Please show us ONE FVCKING picture of someone wandering near Trump rally with an AR-15.
So sick of you just making shit up in that pea brain of yours.
I’m saying it’s rural Pennsylvania. People carrying rifles or guns shouldn’t be a surprise. 2nd amendment supporters have been known to open carry at Trump rallies outside the security zone. Why wouldn’t it be possible?
Trump supporters are big fans of the 2nd amendment and sometimes they proudly show it by open carrying and showing how they are responsible gun owners.
You can say what you want to try to mitigate it douchebag. But your logic is flawed as usual.
People in rural pa own a lot of ARs. People in PA hunt a lot. So what?
People in PA arent walking around with ARs in full camo and boots on 100 degree days
You’re an idiot
“People in rural pa own a lot of ARs. People in PA hunt a lot. So what?
People in PA arent walking around with ARs in full camo and boots on 100 degree days”
Are you sure about that? Plenty of hardcore 2nd amendment supporters do not care about 100 degree heat. They would rather suffer thru the heat than give up an opportunity to carry their weapons in public.
Trump supporters HAVE been carrying while mingling at rally events outside the venues. Trump himself is against gun-free zones. Meaning rally-goers are going to be comfortable taking their guns and exercise their constitutional right. It’s normal for Trump supporters.
I guess we can take from his repeated attempts at gaslighting that Svelaz George isnt a fan of the second amendment.
What else in the constitution are you not a fan of Svelaz?
LOL! I’m a HUGE supporter of the 2nd amendment. I have no problem with Trump supporters open carrying at his rallies.
I open carry myself when I want to. What I find hilarious is the sudden incredulity of the idea that trumps supporters CAN and DO open carry at his rallies. Many do when they are outside the security zone. Many people don’t even pay much attention to it because they see it as other supporters exercising their constitutional right to bear arms. Why wouldn’t it be normal. It should be normal at any Trump event even at the RNC or NRA events. People are allowed to open carry outside the security zone.
George Guys on rooftops with Guns are not going to be treated as mere 2A supporters.
Further I would bet you there was not a single 2A supporter or Trump supporter at that Rally with a gun.
Just as there were none at J6.
When the right actually decides they are going to insurrect – THEN they will come armed, and they will prevail.
You claim that Open Carry is regularly practiced outside Trump Rallies – do you have evidence for that or is it just more made up nonsense.
While you are correct that Trump supports could legally Open Carry outside the security zone.
That is not the same as they did.
“Just as there were none at J6.”
Oh, but there were quite a few at J6. Many were arrested near the ellipse carrying guns. Others were found with caches of weapons in a van several blocks away.
“George Guys on rooftops with Guns are not going to be treated as mere 2A supporters.
Further I would bet you there was not a single 2A supporter or Trump supporter at that Rally with a gun.”
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-florida-virginia-conspiracy-government-and-politics-6ac80882e8cf61af36be6c46252ac24c#:~:text=6,-1%20of%202&text=WASHINGTON%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94%20A%20member,in%20a%20Virginia%20hotel%20room.
“ WASHINGTON – A Missouri man was sentenced today for carrying a firearm during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. His actions and the actions of others disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress convened to ascertain and count the electoral votes related to the 2020 presidential election.
Jerod Thomas Bargar, 37, of Centralia, MO., was sentenced to five years probation, six months of home confinement, and ordered to pay a $4,000 fine by U.S. District Court Judge Reggie Walton. Bargar pleaded guilty to one felony count of entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds with a deadly or dangerous weapon, a felony, on June 8, 2023.”
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/missouri-man-sentenced-felony-weapons-charge-actions-during-jan-6-capitol-breach#:~:text=WASHINGTON%20%E2%80%93%20A%20Missouri%20man%20was,to%20the%202020%20presidential%20election.
Trump supporters can and do open carry outside the security zone. Especially in states where open carry is legal. Why is that surprising all of a sudden?
“You claim that Open Carry is regularly practiced outside Trump Rallies – do you have evidence for that or is it just more made up nonsense.”
I’ve been to several Trump rallies. I’ve seen Trump supporters open carry and mingle with other supporters outside the security zone. It’s not unusual or alarming. It’s far more common than you would think. What IS not surprising is that people don’t really pay them any attention.
“Probably because these rallies attract all kinds of nut jobs.”
Those “nut jobs” are your fellow Americans, douchebag. And none of them are shooting at Biden, interestingly.
You sound like a nut job here every day.
No, That’s the funny part. Most Trump supporters are nutty and they do attend the rallies while armed where it’s legal. I take it you’ve not been to a Trump rally. All kinds of nut jobs show up. That’s what makes these rallies fun and entertaining. It’s like one giant tailgate party.
I’m wondering if maybe the agents they have assigned to him just dropped the ball. One thing I noticed is he was fighting them a bit, he kept saying “let me get my shoes”. He is a big man, and didn’t look like any of them were even as tall as him so maybe they just had a hard time holding him back and couldn’t keep his head down because he’s so tall. Not sure.
But I have a buddy who does body protection for celebrities, and he says head down is always the rule.
And when I look at other attempts they always followed that protocol so its odd they let his head up here and even more odd they did it then stopped escorting him away. They’re supposed to “whisk” him away briskly and with much haste. Didn’t do that here.
So I’ll be interested to see once the security analysts are doing the news shows what they come up with on how the former President and current likely to be soon President elect was evacuated from a live shooting.
The agents did what they were supposed to do. Trump’s protective detail is NOT as extensive as the president’s. Trump is not the president. His security is going to be smaller and can only maintain a perimeter based on their staffing level. They often rely on local law enforcement to maintain the larger perimeter.
Trump stood up at one point. Agents can’t control trumps movements completely. He HAD to get up and he’s clearly a BIG guy. They can’t carry his fat butt and they certainly can’t drag him.
Then there’s the problem of being at an open air venue. There’s more exposure in open air venues. It’s likely Trump may not be holding rallies at open air venues any more.
The roof that he was crawling on was sloped so that he could not be seen from the sniper position until he took a shooting position. Police on the ground also could not see the shooter.
According to the eye witness on BBC news yes they could. In fact the eyewitness was directly pointing out the shooter to them for nearly 5 minutes solid and the police basically ignored him according to his statement on the BBC tonight.
The agents did “coverup Trump. The shots came from a directiont hat was about 90 degrees from the camera. If you watched the video there was no way for the shooter to get another shot at Trump.
as top protocol – if Trump was president at the time – they would have FORCIBLY removed him from the stage.
The law and protocol regarding the actual president is different from a presidential candidate.
Candidates still get to make their own decisions. Trump con override the Secret Service on anything regarding the security of the event or regarding removing him from the stage. The current President can not.
@John Say
Your supposition that the shot came from an angle that the secret service was blocking omits two things.
1. His head was above theirs, the top of his head was accessible from any direction.
2. How did they know, …. that there wasn’t another shooter stationed on another rooftop.
… .or in a window….
or on a lawn…
They did not follow any protocol previous agents have followed.
And just because he’s not the President he IS a former US president. No reason for them to not follow protocol.
In fact, forcing the head down and evacuating the subject from the area as fast as possible is standard procedure for body protection for any celebrity or leader. Doesn’t have to be the President. Most security details follow that standard protocol,
They are supposed to shove the head down, WHISK the subject from the scene as FAST as possible, not linger for photos or crowd encouragement, and they’re supposed to assume there could be a second shooter.
That’s standard operating procedure.
I didn’t see any of that, so better say again Say.
Because you said nothing there.
@I think it will end up they just dropped the ball and because he’s such a big man and forceful they let him control the moment that they themselves were supposed to be controlling.
I think that ultimately will be the finding. But the whole thing seems odd.
And I am definitely not ruling out some back door skullduggery here from some famous figures on the left known for making their enemies disappear.
I’ll wait to see what the investigation brings out, I am just pointing out questions that any serious investigation needs to answer. So far they haven’t been answered.
INSURRECTION!
Like the libtard modern marxists didnt have a bad enough 3 weeks.
Some nutjob marching with orders from Joetard just guaranteed a Trump win and big wins in the House and Senate.
Sux to be Dennis, George, and Gigi
A secret service sniper took out the shooter apparently. Shooter was 300 feet outside the perimeter set up by the secret service. Shooter had an AR-15 apparently.
It’s guaranteed Trump won’t hold any more rallies outdoors. Since he’s not the president he did not have the same level of secret service protection afforded to the president.
Why are you reporting shit to us that you heard or read?
No one is interested in what you have to say.
We all have a phone, a tv, and a news feed.
GFY douchebag
You have gagged Trump because his speach MIGHT lead to violence – yet
WHO is it that actually gets targeted for assassionation ?
I thought it was those of you on the left that said you can’t say mean things about people because other deranged people might resort to violence ?
From prior to the 2016 election you have had fever Dreams about assassinating Trump.
Often explicit public fantasies and often by very prominent Democrats.
There were no AR-15’s at January 6th. This is what political violence actually looks like.
It is my understanding the shooter is dead. But everything is early so who knows.
I would but that this is just another person with mental health issues.
At the same time you run arround saying nonsense like Trump is worse than Hitler or Electing Trump is the end of democracy and you paint a Bullseye on Trump’s back.
“It’s guaranteed Trump won’t hold any more rallies outdoors. ” Want to Bet on that ?
First I would bet Trump’s SS coverage will be 10 times what is was today in the future.
Second, Now every single Time Trump speaks in public everyone is going to be thinking how brave he is.
You have been doing everything in your power to set Trump as a Martyr and you can pretty much Guarantee he is going to take every possible advantage of this.
Finally – whatever doubt there was about the election – just ended.
You have allowed Trump to frame the rest of his campaign as a massive act of courage.
And Joe Biden’s failure to campaign as an act of cowardice
John, you’re saying Trump was shot at because he was gagged?! That’s hysterical.
Your overhyped rhetoric and assumptions IS what feeds into the hysteria engulfing Trump supporters.
Trump is just as much to blame for the situation that resulted in getting shot at. Republicans have been stoking those fears for a long time now. All that talk about Marxists, leftists, destroying the country and freedom has primed his supporters to react as they are now because that’s how cult leaders protect themselves from accountability and responsibility for their rhetoric.
It may not change much for Trump. The election is still 4 months away. The shock and hysteria will not be fresh and Trump may find himself overplaying his literal brush with a bullet.
It would be wise to hold off on instant predictions and assumptions.
“Shooter had an AR-15 apparently.”
Because you say so ? While there are many AR-15 variants. It really is not a specific weapon anymore but a family of weapons of radically different apearance and even calibur.
But very very few AR-15’s are suitable as a sniper rifle.
A head shot from most AR-15’s from 100yards is going to require an exceptionally good shot.
I do not know what the weapon was – but it is not likely an AR-15.
If it was the shooter was likely inexperienced and lucky.
The AR-15 is an area defense weapon not a sniper rifle.
Because that’s what’s being reported.
The guy may have been a good shot or he missed because Trump moved at the right time. Who knows.
This guy literally saw it coming and secret service did nothing…
WOW – must watch 👇
https://x.com/RightTheTorch/status/1812287042891448647
Marjorie Taylor Greene, is already inflaming the situation and accusing Democrats of orchestrating an assassination on Trump. Rhetoric like that is dangerous and she clearly wants violence to erupt.
But rhetoric comparing Trump to Hitler and calling him and existential threat to our democracy is utterly benign. Got it, douche nozzle.
an
It’s no different than the rhetoric coming from the right. MAGA blowhards and nut jobs have been prolific with the doom and civil war rhetoric since 2020. All that talk about WWIII and stocking up on ammunition because…leftists.
They have been whipping themselves into a frenzy for years.
Right George thats why Kavanaugh, Scalise, Reagan, Ford and now Trump.
It’s no different than the rhetoric coming from the right? So you’re agreeing with me?
Yes it is. But nice try
You call someone an existential threat to our country, hitler, a rapist, evil etc etc. Thats permission to a nutjob.
“We can’t allow Trump back i to the White House”.
What else to do when he is cruising to victory?
Get a grip.
Who or what are you replying to? It’s not clear.
The rhetoric from the right is significantly less violent than the left.
Further the violent rhetoric on the left is coming from the leaders on the left – not some unknown off his meds.
Republicans are saying things like This is the most important election of your life.
Democrats are saying if Trump wins this is the last election.
That america will no longer be a democracy (of course we are not a democracy we are a republic)
Almost no one compares Biden to Hitler.
Celebrities, ranking Democratic Politicians, Biden call Trump Hitler.
The Rhetoric of the left is RADICALLY different – both in the significance of the sources, and in the extremism of the language.
Both sides are not even close to equally cuplable.
The left is not responsible that this person shot someone.
They are responsible that they Tried to shoot Trump
“The rhetoric from the right is significantly less violent than the left.”
Huh, not true. While it’s expected to dismiss the rhetoric from the right as less violent it’s obvious by the comments here that it’s not true. The right has just as violent rhetoric as the left. The proud boys, oath keepers, etc have plenty of violent rhetoric to share with the public and in private.
You offered two propositions:
Proposition 1 (10:45 PM)
Rhetoric comparing Trump to Hitler and calling him an existential threat to our democracy is no different than the rhetoric coming from the right.
Proposition 2 (10:05 PM)
Rhetoric (like that of MTG( accusing Democrats of orchestrating an assassination on Trump is dangerous and intended to foment violence.
The only conclusion that I can draw from this is that rhetoric comparing Trump to Hitler and calling him an existential threat to our democracy is no different than rhetoric accusing Democrats of orchestrating an assassination of Trump.
I just want to clear if this is what you intended in your comments. If so, may we conclude that rhetoric comparing Trump to Hitler and calling him an existential threat is intended to foment violence?
Svelaz loves to contradict himself. He often does it in a single post
“MAGA blowhards and nut jobs have been prolific with the doom and civil war rhetoric since 2020. All that talk about WWIII and stocking up on ammunition because…leftists.”
Nearly all of that is the fevered nightmares of leftists.
There is going to be no traditional civil war.
Though LOTS of people – right and left are terrified that Biden may start WWIII by puching Putin to go nuclear.
Conservatives are going to defeat the left. That is inevitable – your just plain nuts and your ideology is a disastrous failure.
There is a real danger of political violence – though as this shows it is far more likely to be left wing violence.
J6 was a minor hissy fit compared to numerous massive acts of violence by the left – just in 2020.
The violent rhetoric of the left significantly exceeds the overblown rhetoric of the right.
While everyone left and right tries to motivate voters with exaggerated and heated rhetoric – there are only a tiny number of people on the right and most inconsequential that are saying that a Biden election would be the end of the world, the end of democracy as we know it. Saying this is the most important election in your lifetime is NOT the same as saying this could be the last election, or that Trump is Hitler or that Republicans are Fascists, or that dissenters would be sent to concentration camps.
Both the left and the right exagerate the outcome if the other wins.
But only the left is saying it is the end of the world, that Nazi’s are taking over.
But this goes beyond rhetoric.
Again – it is highly likely the person who did this is mentally disturbed.
Anxiety and depression are on the rise.
The rates of anxiety and depression among young people are double the average.
The self reported rates of anxiety and depression on those on the left are double that of the right.
The rates of anxiety and depression among the college educated and especially those with advanced degrees are double the rest.
The rates of anxiety and depression among women are double the rest.
The baseline rate of anxiety and depression is about 16% significantly up from 20 years ago.
The rate for white female college educated progressives is 79%
If one in 100,000 people with mental health issues chooses to resort to violence – the odds heavily favor that violence tilting left.
None of this should be surprising. The left is CONSTANTLY shilling malthusian nonsense.
Look at Greta Thunberg.
The world is not coming to an end.
However significant Global Warming is – and it is not, it is still only going to be a speed bump to an improving world.
No malthusian prognostication ever has come to pass.
If/When Trump is elected:
In time the violence in the mideast and Ukraine will end.
There will be a deal that will end Ukraine – likely quickly.
The mideast is harder. It will take time to fiscally choke Iran to the extent they were 4 years ago – but it will happen.
We have a recession coming – hopefully mild. Possibly before the election if not shortly after.
After that we will have a real recovery – much like in the 80’s.
If the Fed does not blow it and monetize Federal Deficits.
Interest rates will come down slowly – instead of threatening to rise again.
Trump’s policies will not be perfect, but they will be far better than Bidens have been.
It is near certain that we will have political violence dwarfing 2016 when Trump si elected – but we will get past it.
It will be harder to kneecap Trump in 2025 – as no one is buying left wing conspiracy theories any more.
The collusion delusion was fake, the hunter Biden laptop was read, Covid came from a lab in Wuhan that Fauxi funded
Trump was spied on. J6 was mostly a peacefull excercise of free speech.
The 2020 election was stolen – in many many ways.
And you can count on the left to blame Trump for what they are actually doing.
Svelaz George begins his whataboutism tour early
“Rhetoric like that is dangerous”
LMAO
What a CLOWN
George this is a typical stupid left wing nut argument.
Again there is still alot we do not know, but if this fits the model of most of this type of conduct – the shooter is a disturbed person.
Democrats are not responsible for his violent acts.
But it IS arguable that they bear responsibility for his choice of target.
It is not republicans accusing Biden of being Hitler.
Blaming the left for their hypocrisy and for placing a bullseye on Trump is not “wanting violence to erupt”.
That is projection.
“But it IS arguable that they bear responsibility for his choice of target.”
Really? Like Trump was not responsible for the violent acts of j6 protesters. But he does bear responsibility for their choice of target.
Hypocrisy goes both ways.
I eagerly await an appearance from Gigi, celebrating one less MAGAt on the planet
At least a consolation for her since they missed Trump.
Unless ‘Gigi’ was the perpetrator
frothing at the mouth with TDS
the way she always does
Gigi is Phillip Bump
AND THE OBAMA COUP D’ETAT IN AMERICA GOES ON
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“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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“People on the 7th floor to include Director are fired up about this [Trump] server.”
– Bill Priestap
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The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history. The co-conspirators are:
Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,
Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,
Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,
Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,
Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,
Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,
Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney, Lisa O. Monaco, Fani Willis, Alvin Bragg,
Matthew Colangelo, Merrick Garland, Juan Merchan et al.
President Biden, your political opponent, former President Donald Trump, is facing criminal charges for saying, “Let your voices be peacefully heard”, at the Jan 6 rally, from which a group broke off, trespassed in the Capitol, and then another smaller group broke off and rioted when it was barred from protesting election interference on the Senate floor.
If “let your voices be peacefully heard” can lead to criminal charges against Trump, do you regret your own rhetoric of “putting a bullseye” on Trump, or making unsubstantiated claims that Trump and Republicans want to bring back slavery, or “put ya’ll back in chains”? Do you regret your own wildly inflated rhetoric that may have led to an assassination attempt on Trump, and to countless assaults on Trump supporters over the years?
Excellent comment, thank you.
That is THE question that MUST be asked, point blank, of President Biden.
Will anyone in the “press” ask it?
100% no.
Because they are the Fake State TV Propaganda News in service of The Regime.
Elon Musk had the same thought as we,
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812296672510111853
Now a report that the sniper was shot by SS within 20 seconds of shooting at Trump. That could only happen if he was already in their sights. But was that to keep him from shooting at Trump again or to make sure that the shooter would tell no embarrassing stories?
It was probably staged. Fake actors. Trump does have a flair for staged drama.
Sick.
Careful or you will end up like AlexJones pal, people were critically injured and one died. Try not to be an aszhole all the time.
The witness interviewed by the BBC said they screamed warnings about the guy with a rifle on the roof and they did nothing.
I wondered where the Uvalde police officers found new jobs. Maybe now we know.
I don’t want the FBI to investigate this. Not trustworthy. Maybe the US Marshals service isn’t completely corrupt.
Nobody will believe any FBI conclusion even if it is, improbably, legit.
CNN had that —-ing Andrew McCabe reporting the assassination attempt on Real President Donald J. Trump – must have had Peter Strzok and Lisa Page (“Obama wants to know everything we’re doing”) waiting in the wings.
Just remember, when Trump wins there will be a new AG. The DOJ, FBI and perhaps the CIA will be gutted of partisan hacks. The political elite that have been picking our pockets to the tune of $34T over the last 20 years will perhaps be called to task. This isn’t just Democrats, it’s the cabal of corruption that permeates our government at the highest levels. They want him dead because they know they are guilty and if pursued would likely spend the rest of their lives in prison.
We should not forget that Robert Kagan (an extremely well-connected Neocon, and husband of Victoria Nuland) recently wrote, in effect, that because the political process was not stopping Trump, some kind of Ceasarian solution would be needed. Of course, we know what happened to Ceasar.
Biden Threat ‘To Put Trump in a Bullseye’ Met With Shrugs, in Contrast With Firestorm Over Palin ‘Crosshairs’
https://www.nysun.com/article/biden-threat-to-put-trump-in-a-bullseye-met-with-shrugs-in-contrast-with-firestorm-over-palin-crosshairs
Archived:
https://archive.ph/rYyox
The establishment almost took out Trump. This is the only way these bas****s can beat him. Independent Bob.
Easy there Bob, first let the evidence come forth before we start jumping to conclusions.
Do you remember when Johnny Depp said. When was the last time that an actor assassinated a President. This guy heard him loud and clear. I hear that Di Nero is popping a bottle of Champagne tonight and filling Rachel Maddow’s glass to the brim. He’s using the cheap stuff because the assassination attempt was not successful. He’s saving the good stuff for a better day.
Don’t forget Madonna…
Anyone seen Dennis or GiGi?
Did Gigi recently threaten Professor Turley?
Gigi says: July 12, 2024 at 3:21 PM
I believe that George Washington University should conduct an investigation into Turley and whether he is fit to continue as a professor….
https://jonathanturley.org/2024/07/12/the-first-amendment-is-out-of-control-academic-and-entertainment-figures-rally-in-the-fight-against-free-speech/comment-page-3/#comment-2423148
Kenneth P. Vogel
@kenvogel
Biden told donors on a private call this afternoon:
“It’s time to put Trump in the bullseye.”
3:09 PM · Jul 8, 2024
https://x.com/kenvogel/status/1810390653567905937
Kenneth P. Vogel is a reporter with the New York Times
Defiant Biden tells donors: ‘We’re done talking about the debate’
07/08/2024, 2:15PM ET
“I have one job, and that’s to beat Donald Trump. I’m absolutely certain I’m the best person to be able to do that. So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye,” Biden said.
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/08/congress/defiant-biden-tells-donors-were-done-with-the-debate-00166834
I just archived the above politico URL because one never knows
https://archive.ph/sfTht
And Biden:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/13/report-biden-told-donors-it-was-time-to-put-trump-in-the-bullseye
But as Cindy Bragg has said he was likely attending Mass and had nothing to do with the attack on the person he wants to put a bullseye on.
For President Trump:
INVICTUS
Out of the night that covers me
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance,
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate
I am the captain of my soul.
And this from Pelosi.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/07/02/pelosi_this_is_not_a_normal_election_trump_must_be_stopped.html