“We accept virtually all students of color.” Those words from Professor Roger Gilles, director of the Frederick Meijer Honors College, may seem a bit odd to Supreme Court justices who believe that they ended racial discrimination in admissions years ago in Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard, 600 U.S. 181 (2023). The college is part of Grand Valley State University in Michigan and still apparently uses race as not just one factor but an overriding factor in admissions.Gilles’s April 4, 2022, email to colleagues could prove the ultimate admission against interest. As detailed by the College Fix, he explained to the faculty that “we accept virtually all students of color, except in cases in which the student’s writing is such that we’re convinced they would struggle far too much in our first-year sequences.” He even boasted that “This year, in fact, we accepted a ‘Signature Saturday’ student with a high GPA but an SAT score of 880..!” That score would put a student below the 25th percentile.Gilles also said that race was the predominant factor in aid, stating ‘[w]ith the cooperation of Jodi in Admissions and Michelle in Financial Aid, we’ve tried hard to give most of the limited number of Honors-specific scholarships we award to students of color. This has been the case going back to Dr. J.”Dr. J is a reference to Professor Jeff Chamberlain, who was hired by the University of North Florida to perform the same function and is now an academic program manager for the University of Oregon.
The College Fix alleges that the university redacted portions of the email where the discrimination on the basis of race was discussed.
Despite Gilles appearing to defy the Supreme Court ruling in the Students for Fair Admissions case, it was clearly not enough for some. Professor Melanie Shell-Weiss wrote that “[f]rom a diversity standpoint, the needle effectively hasn’t moved.”
In 2017, Chief Justice John Roberts declared: “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”
In 2023, Roberts wrote in Students for Fair Admissions that “[universities and colleges] have concluded, wrongly, that the touchstone of an individual’s identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned but the color of their skin. Our constitutional history does not tolerate that choice.”
These admissions could trigger a response from the Departments of Justice and Education under Title VI, which prohibits preferential treatment based on race or ethnicity.
The government loves admissions against interest, particularly in the area of college admissions where most faculty and administrators rarely publicly acknowledge race-based selections.
And what happens to these clowns? Committing federal/state crimes and no one in the DOE or DOJ lifts a finger? In a case that appears to be open and shut!!! There are NO CONSEQUENCES, so they will keep doing it. Within 10 years, higher education will be a complete joke. Truth be told, it’s already a joke, but not enough people realize it yet.
Kudos on a clever article title: Admission against Interest
For non-lawyers, a statement against interest is a legal term that has to do with hearsay. By way of background, hearsay generally is not admissible at trial because of the person who made the statement is not available to be cross-examined. However, there are some exceptions for statements that are considered inherently reliable. Two examples are an excited utterance and a dying declaration. A statement against interest is another one. It is defined by Federal Rule of Evidence 804(b)(3) as follows:
(A) a reasonable person in the declarant’s position would have made only if the person believed it to be true because, when made, it was so contrary to the declarant’s proprietary or pecuniary interest or had so great a tendency to invalidate the declarant’s claim against someone else or to expose the declarant to civil or criminal liability; and
(B) if offered in a criminal case as one that tends to expose the declarant to criminal liability, is supported by corroborating circumstances that clearly indicate its trustworthiness after considering the totality of circumstances under which it was made and any evidence that supports or undermines it.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_804
The admission involved in Professor Turley’s article is an admission, an admission about admissions policy, and an admission against interest.
Don’t leave out the fact that there are 28 exceptions to the “hearsay rule”.
14th Amendment
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States…nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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What the Constitution and the 14th Amendment do say, by omission, is that all owners of private property, private property free enterprises, private property organizations, private property universities et al. may abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, with no exceptions, understanding that only the owner of private property may “claim and exercise” dominion.
By contrast, what Karl Marx said was that private property will be abolished.
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“[Private property is] that dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in exclusion of every other individual.”
– James Madison
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“The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.”
– Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx
Jonathan: Now if you want to talk about “admissions against interest” the focus should not be on Valley State University but the DJT WH where admissions against interest abound. Here are two cases:
Case one. Last week Secy of Defense Pete Hegseth made another huge gaffe. He paused weapons shipments to Ukraine without informing the WH or any other agency. Yesterday, DJT was asked by a WH reporter who authorized the pause. DJT replied “I don’t know, why don’t you tell me”. DJT’s reply to the reporter is an admission against interest. He either knows Hegseth authorized the pause or doesn’t want to admit he is being kept out of the loop on important decisions–an admission he is asleep at the switch. Now DJT has been forced to resume military shipments to Ukraine to save face.
Second case. On Sunday TS Scott Bessent was interviewed by CNN host Dana Bush who asked the TS what happened to the promised trade deals–the “90 deals in 90 days”? Bessent lied: “Again, he [DJT] didn’t promise this. And when we send out the hundreds of letters to these countries that will set their tariff rates…So we’re gonna have a hundred done in the next few days”. Bush replied: “But that’s not a deal, that’s a threat”.
At this point Bessent in the Bush interview made an admission against interest. He told Bush: “Well, many of these countries never contacted us”. An admission there never were any trade deals–despite DJT’s claim he made 200 trade deals back in April and Karoline Leavitt claimed the WH phones were “ringing off the hook” with countries calling to make trade deals. That’s why DJT has now been forced to send out letters to 100 countries threatening new tariffs if they refuse to come to the table.
The fact is countries are not calling DJT to make trade deals because they don’t like being threatened–not Canada, not the EU, not S. Korea, not Japan, and certainly not China. Real trade deals require extensive and honest negotiations. That’s not what is happening because our trading partners understand DJT and Scott Bessent can’t be trusted. You can’t make a deal with a bully!
Ahhhh dummy Canada did make a trade seal. Where you been?
Case one. Last week Secy of Defense Pete Hegseth made another huge gaffe. He paused weapons shipments to Ukraine without informing the WH or any other agency.
This is completely false. An outright fabrication by a notorious liar. It simply did not happen.
Testing, testing.
2300 pts for correctly spelling “Testing”, and 98 pts for adding the apostrophe. You pass, total score: 2398. You’re almost in Valley State! Now, what minority would you like to claim? Choose wisely…
-Oddball
The Left obeys the laws it likes – like most criminals.
Wait! Did you say criminal?
“Crazy Abe” Lincoln posited that secession was prohibited because secession was not prohibited.
Oh, and multiple states reserved the right to return to their sovereignty (i.e. secede) in their constitutional ratification documents if they were not “happy.”
The constitution has no provision for secession. Therefore it does not allow it.
It doesn’t matter what any state’s ratifiers purported to “reserve”; they had no right to do so, so whatever they said was a nullity. Their only choices were to ratify or not to ratify, nothing else.
The right, freedom, and power of secession is not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, and is, therefore, reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.
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10 Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
There’s a slim possibility they have a race-blind admissions policy and simply END UP admitting all the applicants of color. Apparently GVSU is not selective at all; per niche.com they accept 95% of all applicants.
This is Honors College admissions. They also try to steer the scholarship dollars “to students of color.”
I bet the accept everyone- they need the dues.
Their statement is that they make every effort to accept all non-white applicants, but make no such effort for white applicants. That’s illegal.
Unless the school offends a jew, the Trump admin won’t care in the slightest.
Tell that to female college athletes, unless you’re trying to imply that they’re all Jewish. Stormfront is that way, get on, the adults are talking here.
Oh goody! Let’s make fun of big noses, too. Big noses are always funny. Even the pope has red nose day ☺.
Hey Anonymous, what would your reaction be if gays, trans and black students were prevented from going to class or the library? Odd that you are fine with it happening to only Jews. Now lets see, what does that tell us about you? Ooh, ooh, I got it, your a Jew hating loser.
Ask ex-President Ryan at UVA who was hauled out by his tuchas for ignoring the Board’s DEI banishment.
You can’t fix stupid…stupid.
Based on what? Jews right now are the ones being hurt. Or have you not noticed
Are you in 5th grade?
I heard the school has a special course called “Become a Supreme Court Justice 101” and for second year, “How to Write an Opinion Without having Ever written a Brief 201” and a graduate school class, “Wow, I Have a Lifetime Appointment and I Don’t Even Know What a Woman is or ‘I Don’t Understand’ 401” with a Doctoral program “How To Read and Ignore the Constitution”.
Stupid comment.
Yes, your comment is stupid. See, you’re learning.
@Anonymous
😂😂😂
Nope and we can all see. It hurt you .
HullBobby,
HA!!! Good one!
Thanks Upstate. Anonymous didn’t like it because it hit too close to home for what he studied in college.
BTW, after failing to get into Columbia Mamdani went to Bowdoin, possibly admitted as a black applicant, and majored in…African Studies. A real strenuous area of study known to produce some of our finest minds. You know, all of the idiots that are running (at least until they are all terminated) DEI offices at schools and corporations. Not only are they not productive, they actually have a negative affect on productivity as their only job is to find problems that don’t really exist and to come up with indoctrination classes of self-flagellation that are mandated for white employees.
This is the mindset that gave us Schumer, Pelosi et al taking a knee with the absurd African cloths around their necks (although watching them trying to get up was fun), having other whites shining the shoes of black people and rich white idiot women (the worst group on the planet) having dinners with guest speakers like Robin DeAngelo telling them how racist they are and what they need to do to atone for their sin of being born white.
HullBobby,
Great comment!
I recall an article when companies like Microsoft, began eliminating their DEI divisions and laying off employees with DEI degrees as the company stated they did not bring anything of value to the company, at the end of the article was a link to a X post of a video of young people at their graduation, announcing their degrees in various DEI programs. Hey, Starbucks is hiring!
Upstate, it is a beautiful thing to watch.
Perhaps the best thing to do about these sorts of ideologies is to let the play out. Eventually their graduates will be marked with the brand of such institutions and their job prospects will be reflected in what the “market” estimates the quality of their graduates to be. Donors may stop their endowments and potential students may shy away from being branded as a sort of unofficial DEI graduate and will need carry that onus forever. Let the market sort this out as some businesses are already shying away from hiring graduates from woke universities as they are potentially more problem than their degree indicate.
That is the first smart thing you ever wrote here.
Yeah, except for all of the damage that these ideologies have and will cause if not stopped. People have died from DEI, due to unqualified people being placed in positions where competence is critical.
*. Whimsical, what does “admission against interest” in the title mean?
See my comment at 3:58
“we accept virtually all students of color.”
That is at an *honors* college — where the focus is supposed to be on individual *achievement* and intelligence.
Still believe that universities are *not* cauldrons of tribalism?
FYI: It’s Frederik, not “Federick.”
Now, now, how else is a poor downtrodden and oppressed illiterate Marxist supposed to get credentials to run for mayor of New York?
Who says the world cannot be want you want it to be? Just use your imagination to determine fact.
“Is This Why He Claimed to Be Black? Mamdani’s Full College Record Reportedly Leaked”
by Nick Givas, The Western Journal Jul. 8, 2025 4:40 pm
Excerpt:
“The question is: ” With such an elite background, why did Mamdani feel the need to falsely portray himself as black?” It appears a report from Christopher Rufo has some answers. The radical socialist didn’t have high enough SAT scores to make the cut.”
“I have obtained Mamdani’s full Columbia application, which might help unravel this mystery,” Rufo wrote on his website Monday. “According to the materials, Mamdani scored a 2140 out of 2400 on the SAT. At the time, this was below the median SAT score for admitted students at Columbia.”
“He added, “Given the prevailing distribution by race, well below the median SAT score for Asian students, but likely above the median SAT score for black students — hence, the advantage of marking ‘black.’”
“Why is the left not angered that Mamdani tried to appropriate black culture to get himself into college? Because he is one of theirs. They want him to win.”
“This isn’t the first time far-left lawmakers have lied about something serious, only to be let off the hook. It’s also not the first instance when the Times was forced to call it out.”
“Think of Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts claiming to be Native American or Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut saying he fought in Vietnam, when he did not.”
-Oddball
Oops, citation:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/claimed-black-mamdanis-full-college-record-reportedly-leaked/
-Oddball
WHITE is a color too?? I qualify!
White is all colors. Black is the absence of color. Our Sun, for instance, is actually White (only looks yellow because of the distortion of light rays by our atmosphere, same reason the Sun looks red sometimes when setting.)
STILL A COLOR!!! I qualify!!
Why is this surprising when a DEI justice says SCOTUS rulings as an “existential threat.”
*. Clark, what does “existential threat” mean?
Who is paying tuition for all these students of color? Perhaps gov’t money needs to be shut off.
I wonder if this University has advanced degrees in Law for Federal District Court Justices who seem to have a problem reading and understanding Supreme Court decisions and mistakenly ignore or forget that there are 200 + years of law that has preceded them. I will counsel my daughter to remove this university from my granddaughter’s list when she starts applying to colleges. We’ll just have to make do with Purdue or “gasp” IU.
Of course this this also means this University qualifies for the Ivy League since that league seems to think they are also above the law.
You silly person, always pontificating about things you know nothing about.
That you would interference in your granddaughters education is so “marxist” one would think you were a liberal.
So my point, if libs do it, its bad, if white conservatives, like yourself, do it, its good.
Hypocrisy anyone?
The lack of conservative self awareness is astonishing.
It takes a lot of gall for someone like yourself to even say this. Leftists are the most un-selfaware creatures in existence. You’re such a joke.
You have to understand that with GEB, it is the Black Russians that are talking.
GEB has a long and intimate relationship with the demon alcohol.
At this hour of the morning he is already well primed by his beloved Black Russians.
As a result his comments are always completely irrational and nonsensical.
LACK OF SELF AWARENESS on display again folks.
Randomly capitalizing words does not actually make what you say true, in case you thought otherwise. I’m probably assuming too much in thinking that anything resembling thought went into your pathetic comment however.
Random capitalization is a requirement for admission to the MAGA cult.
They are required to mimic their orange cult leader at all times, or risk excommunication.
Oh, we’re back to cult again. Implicitly admitting defeat in whatever pig of an argument that you were trying to make before. We accept your concession, you can slink on back to Politico now.
Random huh? God please him this person.
This comment makes absolutely no sense. At all. Try logic next time, instead of emotion.
Apparently, you know nothing about basic spelling, punctuation or simple sentence structure.
GEB,
At this point in time, I would question the value vs cost of a college education.
‘Unprepared and entitled’: College grads unpopular with hiring managers, survey finds
https://www.thecollegefix.com/unprepared-and-entitled-college-grads-unpopular-with-hiring-managers-survey-finds/
We need to stop putting so much value on a degree when the colleges are not preparing grads with the skills to enter the work force. Sure, there are fields which do require serious, and stringent education and training, like medical. However, I question if there could be a paid internship program that after a period of time, with testing, accredits the intern equal to a four year degree in the same field.
GEB,
This was timely, Underemployment: The Statistic That Should Guide College Decisions
https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/07/08/underemployment-statistic-should-guide-college-decisions/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
*. GEB, I don’t understand the title. What does “Admission Against Interest” mean?
Is it true that people with degrees in physics are more capable of thinking logically than those without such?
Thanks
What an absolute joke!
Professor Roger Gilles is/was in the “Department of Writing” at Grand Valley State University. And ol’ Roger says “we accept virtually all students of color, except in cases in which the student’s writing is such that we’re convinced they would struggle far too much in our first-year sequences.” So this clown will accept students based on race and NOT merit except in his area/department?? Nothing like having a bigot as a “director”, eh?
A guy with this kind of twisted reasoning MUST be a Democrat given the Democratic Party’s nearly two century history of discriminating against ‘people of color’. Bring ’em in, collect the tuition and federal grants, give a phony degree and turn them out to fail, eh Roger?
A prosecutor’s dream? Case against the “school” should be a slam dunk
Ranked #469 in Forbes
Prosecutor you say? Its not a criminal case.
See folks, how ignorant conservatives are.
Nice try. Better luck next time
Not the anon above, but he’s right and you are very wrong. Just admit it or shut up.
3 DUMB POSTS by crazy Anon already!!!
1 dumb post from crazy KIRK. A record!
Ooh, burn! Please just go away, your very presence lowers the intelligence of whatever group you are trying to infest.
Group? Lowers the intelligence? You’re kidding right?
I suppose that that could seem to be a joke to someone of such limited intelligence as yourself. Since you’re too stupid and uneducated to understand, I’m referring to something known colloquially as the “average”, or in this particular case, the arithmetic mean. Let me demonstrate, and I’ll go slowly and use small words so that you can follow. If you have a group of people, the average IQ of the group is sum of the IQs of the members of the group, divided by the number of members in the group. For example, (100+100+100+100+100) / 5 or 500 / 5 or 100. Now, let’s add you to this group. (100+100+100+100+100+5) / 6 or 505 / 6 or about 84. See, that’s what you do to a group, you lower the average intelligence significantly, because you’re just that stupid.
IQ huh? Limited intelligence huh? Too stupid huh? Uneducated huh? Oh, love this one – colloquially. Gotta ask, what group are you?
colloquially: (adverb) in the language of ordinary or familiar conversation; informally
I’m glad that you like the word. It’s always nice to increase the limited vocabulary of dimwits like yourself. To find other new words, consult a dictionary.
84 is thrown out as an outlier leaving the intelligence unchanged.
Are there not prosecutors in civil cases? If someone were to file suit against this school for discrimination…, you know, the thing.
Why don’t you go research it OLLY.
Discrimination is not a crime, it a civil action.
Is English not your first language? I said ‘civil cases’…’discrimination’ suit.
No, OBVIOUSLY prosecutors exist only in a prosecution, not in a civil suit.
Starts with name calling…early this morning.
When you have a low intellect and poor impulse control, you quickly resort to name calling, instead of making reasoned arguments.
Good ole OLLY.
Heard the same thing from the former President of Hamilton College in NY after the Supreme Court decision.
Democrats ignore laws!
Mind You that President went to Harvard to help make sure to continue the rank racism
Racism is alive and well. Changing the race of the victims does not make it less of an injustice.
The school did not say it was excluding whites. Racist none the less?
Oh please, we all know what was happening here. Stop trying to be cute.
What is happening here?
Just another illegal leftist race-based college admission scandal. Do try to keep up, I know that it must be hard to read when someone is functionally illiterate like yourself.
The school said it was making every possible effort to admit non-whites. It makes no such effort for whites. That is racist and illegal.