On Sunday, the Green Party in the United Kingdom voted to “abolish” private landlords in a move that reaffirms the party as a largely socialist movement. For some environmentalists, it is a sad hijacking of a cause by far-left elements that moves it away from its original environmental priorities.
The motion passed at the Greens’ conference in Bournemouth calls for the “effective abolition of private landlordism.”
That would impact roughly three million people in Britain who rent out properties, including at least one high-ranking Green official, Adrian Ramsay, who is one of the Greens’ four MPs.
Ramsay insisted that he is not making a profit on his rental and would soon stop being a landlord.
The Green Party is committed to effectively eliminating private landlords through rent controls, a “land value tax,” and other means.
The move is reminiscent of Zohran Mamdani’s call to seize unoccupied luxury condos in New York and give them to the homeless. He has also called for Democratic Socialists to “seize the means of production” in America.
Ironically, this week former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo called out Mamdani for hypocrisy as a landlord of vacant valuable land in Uganda.
The Green Party motion states:
‘The private rental sector has failed, it is a vehicle for wealth extraction, funnelling money from renters to the landlord class…
This motion makes it clear that Green Party policy is to seek the effective abolition of private landlordism and to support the building of council housing.
…The Green Party believes the existence of private landlords adds no positive value to the economy or society, that the relationship between landlord and tenant is inherently and intrinsically extractive and exploitative.”
Carla Denyer, Green MP for Bristol Central, insists that the call to end private landlords as “inherently and intrinsically extractive and exploitative” does not actually mean an outright ban: “While the motion to confidence had an eye-catching name, it does not actually ‘abolish’ landlords.”
Once again, the Green Party has been steadily moving toward an openly socialist agenda, leaving many environmentalists at odds with the party.
Polls show that socialism is now more popular than capitalism in Great Britain, with a shocking increase in favor of communism.
Hopefully your busy schedule permits to talk about Donald Trump discussing invoking the insurrection act and politicizing the Justice Department-but that may derail your plans to be named by him to the Supreme Court.
The stupidity is astounding. If landlord’s are not able to tinvest in housing, who will? The government? The cost overruns will reduce the housing stock.
If the Mamdanis of the country, and the Leftists, are successful in tanking the country, which I predict they will be, then we will have to have our very own Dictator come in and put things normal again –
If we are fortunate, we will have someone like Augusto Pinochet take over our country. He was relatively restrained, and only killed about 4,000 troublemakers and Communists/Socialists. The population at that time was about 10.3 million. So round up to 5,000 executed, and round down the population to exactly 10 million, and you get a Kill Ration of .0005. That equates to about 50 people per 100,000. For comparison, Chicago’s murder rate for 2024 is 21.5 people per 100,000.
Pinochet himself expressed his project in government as a national rebirth inspired by Diego Portales, a figure of the early republic:[145]
[Democracy] will be born again purified from the vices and bad habits that ended up destroying our institutions. … [W]e are inspired in the Portalian spirit which has fused together the nation …
— Augusto Pinochet, 11 October 1973.
On 25 November 2006, Pinochet marked his 91st birthday by having his wife read a statement he had written to admirers present for his birthday:
Today, near the end of my days, I want to say that I harbour no rancour against anybody, that I love my fatherland above all and that I take political responsibility for everything that was done which had no other goal than making Chile greater and avoiding its disintegration … I assume full political responsibility for what happened.[199][200][201]
Two days later, he was again indicted and ordered preliminary house arrest on charges of kidnapping and murder of two bodyguards of Salvador Allende who were arrested the day of the 1973 coup and executed by firing squad during the Caravan of Death.[202][203]
Pinochet died a few days later, on 10 December 2006, without having been convicted of any of the crimes of which he was accused.
Ooops – forgot the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet
Perhaps America’s All-Time Supreme Dictator, “Crazy Abe” Lincoln, could return for a “Reign of Terror” redux—”Crazy Abe” 2.0?
He killed one million Americans to install a constantly caterwauling and inimical, foreign, four-million-man standing army on U.S. soil.
Landlords can be tyrannical, so why is this a bad thing?
^ IQ = 62 ^
Experiencing life does not equate to a low IQ. You might want to have your own tested for suggesting such a thing.
Here’s a Happy Democrat, doing what Democrats do!
How come Mike Johnson is not swearing in Congresswoman-elect Adelita Grijalva after she won the special election in Arizona?
Is Johnson afraid the Epstein files will be released with her vote?
^ stupidest comment of the day ^
@Anonymous
Because unlike you, they know that is primordially stupid. Talk to the algae you grow next to. We have passed deficient or ret*rded – you are more akin to an actual caveman. Fire bad, we know.
Forgot to add:
“America will never be a socialist country” -Trump
Is there any way of excising New York City from the rest of the country? After experiencing Socialism/Communism for 20 years, they will be begging to get back in.
No they won’t. After 20 years, smart people will have already left the city, in much the same way as 90% of the whites in South Africa left. This leaves all the freeloaders, druggies, and idiots in NYC, and freeloaders, druggies, and idiots vote for Democrats. That is why BIG BLUE cities don’t get better – Baltimore, New Orleans, Memphis, Chicago, Oakland, etc. These cities have been Poopy-Holes for years, and they are still run by Democrats. What, leave the food stamps and housing and perversion and move somewhere and get a job??? Nope. I predict that it won’t happen.
@ Floyd
Yup. And it will be bred into future generations (and already the generations that embrace this are privileged, white, and under 40), just like Mao. I’m sure that’s part of the design. Make no mistake: those cities are going down, and they’d love to take the rest of us with them. We can’t let them.
“it is a sad hijacking of a cause by far-left elements that moves it away from its original environmental priorities.”
The enviro-Nazis were Marxists from their earliest beginnings. No hijacking required.
I thought Professor Turley was old enough to have read The Population Time Bomb, Silent Spring, etc.
Should have known that for decades before the Chairman of the IPCC openly stated about 20 years ago that the Global Warming agenda was all about redistributing the wealth.
Communism promises so much, and delivers only misery. That has been proven time and time again. Why do people continue to believe the promises after more than a century of failure? Why is there a mass hysteria and/or mental illness surrounding this belief system, affecting so many people?
Promises? I’ve never seen an ad with promises for Communism.
More to the point, communism is unconstitutional.
Freedom vs. enslavement.
Private property vs. public property.
The singular American failure is the judicial branch, with emphasis on the Supreme Court.
The communist American welfare state MUST have been struck down at every step of its emergence.
Tyrannical landlords can make you miserable when they evict you and make you homeless because you lost your income because your tyrannical employer fired you because you did not welcome his sexual advances.
^ Gigi fantasizing again ^
LOL
“Fat-bottomed girls
You make the rocking world go around.”
– Queen
I thought that we were all supposed to “own nothing and love it”. So in this model the State-Party will assign this to an Agency-landlord or award contract to a “non-profit” entity (spoils system for donors) to manage renting and leases. So much for improving things for tenants and advocating for their rights against the property owner and manager when abuses and neglect occur.
IF ‘the private rental sector has failed, being a vehicle for wealth extraction and funnelling money from renters to the landlord class’ THEN how is taxation by the government so different ? Sounds as though western societies are fundamentally transforming in a manner that the people become peasants.
America should require all nations to completely and definitively reject the Communist Manifesto.
America should require all nations to adopt and implement the “manifest tenor” of the U.S. Constitution in order to conduct relations with the United States.
America, where the DNC has bought into the Communist Manifesto, should go try to tell other countries not to do the same?
The DNC and the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs) are foreign invaders and traitors who must be treated as such.
Senator McCarthy, is that you, speaking from beyond the grave?
NATURAL AND GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS, FREEDOMS, PRIVILEGES, AND IMMUNITIES
Freedom, Free Enterprise, Free Markets—The Constitution Provides Freedom—The Communist Manifesto Provides Arbitrary Dictatorship
There is no such thing as capitalism, which is a socialist-cum-communist pejorative, or an arbitrary and false construct.
There is only freedom and the freedom to “claim and exercise” dominion and deploy assets, which are comprised of absolute 5th Amendment private property.
There is no such thing as socialism; the goal of socialism is communism.
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“The theory of Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.”
– Karl Marx
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“[Private property is] that dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in exclusion of every other individual.”
– James Madison
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“The goal of Socialism is Communism.”
– Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
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AI Overview
A socialist is someone who advocates for or practices socialism, an economic and political philosophy that emphasizes social ownership and control over the means of production. Socialists believe that wealth and power should be distributed more equitably across society rather than concentrated in the hands of a few private individuals. The specific beliefs of a socialist can vary widely depending on the type of socialism they support.
AI Overview
The French socialist Louis Blanc is credited with coining the term “capitalism” [as a pejorative] in 1850, though he used it to mean the “appropriation of capital by some to the exclusion of others,” a critical and disparaging definition. The term was subsequently used by other anti-capitalists and later gained broader recognition through figures like Pierre-Joseph Proudhon and Karl Marx, who used it to describe the economic and social system.
Speaking about in regards to the American experience of the past 12 years. This all started with the economic pressures of the Cost-of-Living, particularly in California. Therein “Someone” had the bright idea of “Let’s Raise the Minimum Wage”, henceforth Democrats in California got behind this ball to win Votes and Seats without regard to the impact this Movement would have on the National Economy (whereupon The reality of Today’s economy). The call for rising the minimum wage was the Starting Gun for the Mercantile, Banking, Financial, machine of everything down the line to increase prices. The feedback effects of “Someone’s bright Idea”.
The Federal Reserve can’t address these matters, they at best server as ‘reactionary body’ to the party that induces an economic impact.
Trump and his Tariff’s have an impact on the Economy, not so in the immediate (there will be an effect, as we currently see) as much so as in the future of the economic reality (the long term after effects of Tariffs).
We have seen this before: It’s called Voodoo Economics – George H. W. Bush (circa 1980).
We are in a deeper mess than any of you image.
I will leave you with Economist Ben Stein’s explanation of the Hawley–Smoot Tariff Act:
Ben Stein explains – Tariffs are B-A-D Economics.
Ben Stein (circa ~ Oct 11, 2013)
Although Ben Stein is entertaining, in the above he was more of a straight man. Here is another video, more entertaining in my view, presenting the competing views of Keynes and Hayek – two great 20th century economists – on the stimulus issue. This is round 2 of their battle. Round 1 is also available online but it is shorter.
Keynes was wrong. Ludwig von Mises Mises’s research has disproved the Keynesian Economics theory.
That said, because Our leaders have followed Keynes is why we are in the mess we are today.
Re.:
John Maynard Keynes, Friedrich Hayek, and Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk are influential economists with fundamentally different views on capitalism, the role of government, and the nature of capital. The dispute between Keynes and Hayek gained prominence during the Great Depression, but their differing ideas have roots in earlier works, including Böhm-Bawerk’s theory of capital and interest.
Core concepts and contrasting views
John Maynard Keynes (Keynesian Economics)
Friedrich Hayek (Austrian Economics)
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk (Austrian School)
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Keynes+vs+Hayek+vs+B%C3%B6hm-Bawerk
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Ref.: …
Böhm-Bawerk favored policies that deferred to the ever-present reality of economic law. He regarded interventionism as an attack on market economic forces that cannot succeed in the long run. In the last years of the Habsburg monarchy, he three times served as finance minister, fighting for balanced budgets, sound money and the gold standard, free trade, and the repeal of export subsidies and other monopoly privileges.
It was his research and writing that solidified the status of the Austrian School as a unified way of looking at economic problems, and set the stage for the School to make huge inroads in the English-speaking world. But one area where Böhm-Bawerk had not elaborated on the analysis of Menger was money, the institutional intersection of the “micro” and “macro” approach. A young Ludwig von Mises, economic advisor to the Austrian Chamber of Commerce, took on the challenge.
The result of Mises’s research was The Theory of Money and Credit, published in 1912. He spelled out how the theory of marginal utility applies to money, and laid out his “regression theorem,” showing that money not only originates in the market, but must always do so. …
https://mises.org/what-austrian-economics#:~:text=B%C3%B6hm%2DBawerk%20favored%20policies%20that,but%20must%20always%20do%20so.
Food for Thought:
Why Keynes’ Economic Theories Failed In Reality
By: Tyler Durden ~ 9/5/2025
http://www.zerohedge.com /markets/why-keynes-economic-theories-failed-reality
Europe’s New War Economy: From Green
Collapse To Military Keynesianism
By: Tyler Durden ~ 8/18/2025
[Link] zerohedge.com /energy/europes-new-war-economy-green-collapse-military-keynesianism
Trump’s Tariff Wars Hit Europe, Korea & Japan
By Michael Hudson ~ September 10, 2025
[Link] michael-hudson.com/2025/09/trumps-tariff-wars-hit-europe-korea-japan/
Trump’s Inverted View of America’s Tariff History
By: Michael Hudson ~ April 14, 2025
[Link] michael-hudson.com/2025/04/trumps-inverted-view-of-americas-tariff-history/
The Road to Chaos – A Global Balance of Payments War
By: Michael Hudson ~ January 28, 2025
[Link] michael-hudson.com/2025/01/the-road-to-chaos-a-global-balance-of-payments-war/
I don’t see much of a difference at the register for the same items I routinely buy at same stores. Also, Amazon swallowed tariffs and prices reminded same. Did NYTimes lie to me? Again?
“Amazon swallowed tariffs and prices reminded same.”
BS.
Apparently you don’t buy coffee — or any of the other some *1,200* Amazon products with tariff imposed price increases. And apparently you’re not familiar with third-party sellers, who’ve been forced to raise prices because of those tariffs.
Wish as you might, there’s no such thing as a free lunch.
The environmentalists are a type of conservative, because they want to conserve the environment.
That may apply to genuine environmentalists, but not to Greens who seek to impose communism. During the Cold War and now communist states are far worse for the environment than free nations.
Please cite Article 1, Section 8, for any power to tax for and fund the exercise of dominion over the earth and sky.
Please cite Article 1, Section 8, for any enumerated power to regulate the earth and sky.
As many of us know, UK property rentals are referred to as “Lets,” either short or long-term. There may be more to this story than first meets the eye.
(I am of paternal British ancestry/heritage.) What is happening in the British Isles is quite stunning.
There has been an alarming rise in ‘buy-to-let’ real property purchase transactions—- by foreign nationals— over just the last few decades. The demographic complexion of Britain is rapidly changing, as is in the United States. Illegal immigration and rising socio-economic unrest, as well as efforts to overthrow British rule, are genuine ankle-biters of daily concern.
I say no more.
(didn’t mean to capitalize “lets.”)
“demographic complexion”? Yikes.
God forbid people, who don’t look like the Queen, who are largely coming from places once conquered by the crown, want to take advantage of the spoils of British imperialism.
God forbid that people of narrow reading comprehension and context cannot grasp the full meaning and definition of “demographic complexion.”
The idea that you think it is in some way wrong for people who don’t look like you to be welcome in the UK is shocking.
The Great Replacement.
In our country at least, we are a country of immigrants, and the American Dream is not and should not be limited to people of one racial, ethnic or national background.
No, my friend. It is you who errs, and you err deeply.
First of all, you assume that I am white/Caucasian, like Queen Elizabeth.
Indian and African British ancestry/heritage is common.
You do not know who I am, or what I look like.
Second, even Google search assist results define “demographic complexion” as such (and I had already warned you of that):
“Demographic complexion refers to the composition and characteristics of a population, including factors like race, ethnicity, age, and socioeconomic status. It describes how these elements shape the identity and diversity of a community or area.” contexts.org grist.org
Why did you extract race?
Try some introspection as to why you seem so eager to criticize? What does that tell me about you?
Anony-moron her comment was descriptive, not prescriptive. Try to read for meaning instead of your own stupid biases.
“I say no more ”
Did you even read the comment? I don’t think you know the meaning of descriptive vs prescriptive if you don’t recognize that she expressed her dissatisfaction with the trends she recounts in the preceding sentences.
But like most discussions where you realize you are wrong, I won’t hold my breath for a response.
” to “abolish” private landlords in a move that reaffirms the party as a largely socialist movement.”
“For some environmentalists, it is a sad hijacking of a cause by far-left elements that moves it away from its original environmental priorities.”
Let’s vote democratically: What is democratic socialism? It’s anything people want to call themselves on the way to communism and socialism. It’s the dreams some people have of a utopia that cannot exist. To be more exact, it is a so-called democracy where people vote for socialism (on the economy) and their own enslavement.
The idea is that the people should be able to vote on how the economy should run. Thus they say, let’s vote and get rid of landlords. Who then owns the property? The people, but that means the government owns private property. Do you know what that means? Socialism on the way to Communism.
In the 1970s, the government of the City of New York took over a lot of property from landlords because the government made it impossible for the landlords to survive. Suddenly, the government was left managing the real estate at a cost of many multiples of what the former landlords were paying. It was bankrupting the city: development of new units stopped, prices skyrocketed, and tenants had no apartments to rent. The solution to the problem was returning the housing to the landlords, and leaving a mess of prices, higher than ever.
You will listen to George Svelaz as he butchers the meaning of words to make democratic socialism sound different than what it is, state ownership. You will hear him deflect and change the subject. What you won’t hear is the truth or anything worthwhile. Almost everything he says is nonesense.
S. Meyer does not know that socialism is not the same as democratic socialism. They are two different things. He can’t descrive the difference between socialism, comminism, and Marxisim in his own words. That is the problem. Instead of actually making an effort to prove he knows what he’s talking about using his own words he gripes about others “butchering” meanings of words. Words S. Meyer does not understand in the first place.
There you go again….
why don’t you correct S.Meyer and define the Utopian “democratic socialism” you keep whining about (hawking without any substantive examples or delimitations). You’re just a bag of hot and smelly wind, X-s. — You carried on the same dumb way, yesterday @ “Mamdani’s Plan to Ruin the New York Educational System.”
Since X-s is intellectually unable to define his worldview and political stance, i.e., “democratic socialism,” let his organization, Democratic Socialists of America, do it for him. See https://www.dsausa.org/about-us/what-is-democratic-socialism/
* Capitalism is a system designed by the owning class to exploit the rest of us for their own profit. We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where ordinary people have a real voice in our workplaces, neighborhoods, and society.
* We believe there are many avenues that feed into the democratic road to socialism. Our vision pushes further than historic social democracy and leaves behind authoritarian visions of socialism in the dustbin of history.
* We want a democracy that creates space for us all to flourish not just survive and answers the fundamental questions of our lives with the input of all. We want to collectively own the key economic drivers that dominate our lives, such as energy production and transportation. We want the multiracial working class united in solidarity instead of divided by fear. We want to win “radical” reforms like single-payer Medicare for All, defunding the police/refunding communities, the Green New Deal, and more as a transition to a freer, more just life.
GeorgeX tried this: “S. Meyer does not know that socialism is not the same as democratic socialism.”
GeorgeX, with his abysmal handicap of primary school reading comprehension, yet again wants to try and assure us that his Democrat Marxist socialism is a turd that tastes delicious if you eat it from the clean end.
X: You’re the one trying to play, right out of the communist playbook.
There is NO difference between democratic socialism, socialism, communism, and Marxisim.
They’re all the same thing but of course a lying communist would already know that.
Tell me, what DON’T you like about cold hard communism since you’re the man of “distinction”
You love it, commie, murder and all. Admit it. Long live Our Republic.
“S. Meyer does not know that socialism is not the same as democratic socialism. …”
One of the more stupid things you do is to pretend you read the other person’s reply. Here is your answer and more to the questions asked above. I copied what I wrote for you to reread since you couldn’t understand it the first time, and didn’t know how to provide an intelligent question.
“Let’s vote democratically: What is democratic socialism? It’s anything people want to call themselves on the way to communism and socialism. It’s the dreams some people have of a utopia that cannot exist. To be more exact, it is a so-called democracy where people vote for socialism (on the economy) and their own enslavement.
The idea is that the people should be able to vote on how the economy should run. Thus they say, let’s vote and get rid of landlords. Who then owns the property? The people, but that means the government owns private property. Do you know what that means? Socialism on the way to Communism.”
As far as using my own words, I did, unless I copied a phrase from Das Kapital or Thomas Sowell’s book, Marxism.
You are a fool, George Svelaz, and have no understanding of how ignorant you are. Intelligent people converse with you to clean up the mess you leave behind, leaving you with the false idea that you are smart. You are not, and are one of the most ignorant people I have ever met.
OUCH… that left a mark.
Nice on S.Meyer’s
Thanks, Dustoff. George Svelaz often draws responses meant to correct the record for others, but he misreads that attention as validation. It’s not a mark of insight, just a reminder of how much time he costs everyone. I am waiting for his swelled head to pop.
There is a rather infantile quality to the thinking of the UK Green Party and Zohran Mamdani. In their effort to “do good” they neglect any consequences of their policies – and there are always consequences intended or otherwise. Do they not teach the fundamental economics principle of TANSTAAFL in school any more or at least become acquainted with it in Robert Heinlein’s “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress”?
Anyone remember that guy John Durham.
He spent 4 years examining the origins of the FBI investigation into President Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and its alleged ties to Russia.
Apparently, the federal prosecutors in the Eastern District of VA met with Durham to ascertain what evidence he had uncovered about Comey, and he told them that he was unable to find evidence that would support false statements or obstruction charges against the former FBI director.
After conducting their own investigation, prosecutors in Virginia reached the same conclusion as both Durham and the D.C. prosecutors. They would be unable to prove Comey made false statements to Congress to obstruct their investigation. Presenting their findings in a lengthy declination memo to US Attorney Erik Siebert, the prosecutors explicitly mentioned the two other investigations to bolster their recommendation that probable cause does not exist to charge Comey.
Seibert was subsequently fired for refusing to indict Comey, but Lindsey Halligan went ahead and did it anyway.
This creates an interesting opportunity for Comey.
If this ever goes to trial, which is unlikely, then when they get to the discovery phase, the DOJ will have to turn over all of Durham’s findings including any exculpatory evidence. Comey will almost certainly be able to call Durham as a defense witness to explain his findings, and he may even be able to call Erik Seibert and the career prosecutors at EDVA, to explain why they declined to indict Comey.
This is going to great !!!!
I can’t wait.
Get your popcorn ready.
The evidence against comey came from comey himself.
Sooo, Durham couldn’t find any lying to Congress by Comey, and some federal prosecutors couldn’t find no lying neither??? (IIRC , gov’t investigators couldn’t find any fraud over at Bernie Madoff’s office either. Two formal investigations, and three examinations, and they couldn’t find no fraud going on.) That’s funny, they couldn’t find noComey lying, yet I found it right on youtube! First, here is a transcript where he lies:
https://www.rev.com/transcripts/james-comey-testimony-on-russia-investigation-transcript-september-30
Here is the relevant part during Cruz’s questioning:
All right. Let’s shift to another topic. On May 3rd, 2017, in this committee, Chairman Grassley asked you point blank, “Have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?” You responded under oath, “Never.” He then asked you, “Have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration?” You responded again under oath, “No.” Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal and that you were directly aware of it and that you directly authorized it. Now, what Mr. McCabe is saying and what you testified to this committee cannot both be true. One or the other is false. Who’s telling the truth? Mr. Comey: (01:52:43) I can only speak to my testimony. I stand by the testimony you summarized that I gave in May of 2017. Senator Cruz: (01:52:50) So your testimony is you’ve never authorized anyone to leak? And Mr. McCabe, if he says contrary, is not telling the truth, is that correct? Mr. Comey: (01:52:58) Again, I’m not going to characterize Andy’s testimony, but mine is the same today.
Here is the video, so you can see it with your own eyes and hear it with your ears: