In what Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) has reportedly called a possible game-changer, the American Federation of Government Employees union is demanding that Democrats end the government shutdown. Reporter Burgess Everett, Congressional Bureau Chief for Semafor, posted “Sen. Durbin, No. 2 Democrat, says AFGE calling for end to shutdown ‘has a lot of impact.'”
According to Burgess, Durbin went on to say:
“It’s something we will be discussing this week. I’m not announcing any change in my position at this time. They’re our friends. We take them seriously.’ Says he’d support bills to pay SNAP and air traffic controllers.”
The AFGE, the largest union in the country representing federal employees, has joined Republicans in calling on Democrats to vote for a clean continuing resolution (CR).
Everett Kelley, AFGE’s national president, wrote:
“Today I’m making mine: it’s time to pass a clean continuing resolution and end this shutdown today. No half measures, and no gamesmanship. Put every single federal worker back on the job with full back pay — today.”
The unions, with their massive political war chests, cannot be ignored by Democratic members. This is the largest government employee union and represents an overwhelmingly Democratic base of union members. It is also ominous for Democrats with many federal workers going to the polls this week in the closer-than-expected elections in Virginia.
This union and other identity class voter groups are 100% behind Democrats ensuring that criminal Illegal Aliens get federal taxpayer funded healthcare and other benefits they are not legally allowed to obtain.
Right up to the point where they see it as THEM, personally, that will bear the financial burden of Democrats attempting to continue putting the costs of doing that on all Americans and future generations who cannot yet vote on having this debt passed on to them.
Once they’re the ones suffering financially, we watch them squealing like Marxist pigs. Now they demand the Democrats abandon those criminal Illegal Aliens and throw them under the bus so their paychecks resume.
There truly is no loyalty nor honor among these thieves, Democrats or criminal Illegal Aliens.
What I find interesting here is that Durban supports passing a bill that will pay for air traffic controllers and SNAP beneficiaries. Yet he has denied the military pay in votes how many times? Air traffic controllers are important as are SNAP beneficiaries but neither of them are a requirement in the constitution nor required for our national defense. If I am not mistaken the military has it’s own air traffic controllers.
His willingness is to stop an inconvenience (flying) and providing food to some that do not necessarily need the support (food banks and other charities) shows his level of concern for our nation as a whole.
If Durbin and the Democrats really cared, they would vote to withhold their pay and that of their staffers during shutdowns, and maybe use the money that they would otherwise receive to pay for SNAP benefits, air traffic controllers and the military. And some member of Congress should propose a bill that when the pay of Representatives, Senators, and their staff is withheld during a shutdown, their pay is forfeited and they are not eligible for backpay. That should motivate them to do the jobs for which they were elected.
“they would vote to withhold their pay”
They should be voting to do much more. Reduce their salaries, perks, and money for staff unless the budget returns to sanity. They should have the same insurance as the average American and pay for it themselves. Our legislators need to live in America.
Apparently they have done their research and they know who is preventing the government from re-opening.
“The AFGE, the largest union in the country representing federal employees, has joined Republicans in calling on Democrats to vote for a clean continuing resolution (CR).”
To me, this erosion of support for the Democrats’ position strongly suggests that Republicans should double down on their own stance. Will they have enough courage, intelligence, and/or integrity to do so? Based on what I read this morning on Just the News, that does not seem very promising. Sen. Ron Johnson, of Wisconsin. has invested a lot of effort to portray himself as a dyed-in-the wool conservative. But his proposal to compromise with Dems to pay all furloughed Fedgov workers during the remainder of the shutdown makes him look to me like yet another sleazy, hypocritical, poser politician. It also strikes me as a typically stupid Republican strategy to cave just when they have gained the upper hand. How does this not remove a huge incentive for Dems to themselves to cave on the budget resolution impasse?
Ron Johnson says he has offered Senate Democrats a proposal to pay federal employees amid shutdown
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/ron-johnson-says-he-has-offered-senate-democrats-proposal-pay-federal-employees
“Wisconsin Republican Sen. Ron Johnson on Monday said that he has offered Senate Democrats a proposal that would keep federal workers, including furloughed employees, paid through the government shutdown.”
It’s amazing and shameful how much Democrats care about illegal aliens keeping taxpayer-funded healthcare.
In Other News, “Charon Demands Congress End Gov’t Shudown or He will Stop Ferrying the Dead to the Underworld”
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Having received no recompense for ferrying indigent dead to the underworld, and the numbers of deceased self-paying for crossing the River Styx declining, The Ferryman Charon threatened to halt his service unless Congress restarts the government.
“Those self-righteous fools are about to seal their own fate if they don’t cough up some money.” Charon said of Congress, “I’ve got 180,000 souls backed up on shore who can’t pay the 30,000 drachma the government owes me for their passage. And it will be 100 years until they are allowed to cross otherwise. Those congressmen and women can’t hold out on dying that long. They’re going to have a lot of ‘splanin’ to do as they fight their way though that mob to reach my boat.”
Darren
LOL, sometimes you worry me.
Me? Clown.
How can there be a democrat party when it’s leaders endorse a Marxist for Mayor of NYC and allow others into their “party” who say their socialist? They want to redistribute wealth by taxing you to the breaking point and take your personal property. Have you forgotten the guy who said we’re going to “fundamentally change”. There is no “Democrat” party. For the benefit of the Blue Banana, yes I’ve said that before.
Mamdani is DSA. D = democratic. Your comment is high school level immature.
“Mamdani is DSA. D = democratic. Your comment is high school level immature.”
And there’s some primary school level gaslighting and defensive semantics. The trademark Nothing To See Here, Please Believe Us, Don’t Believe Your Lying Eyes™
Marx never used the word “Marxist” or “socialist”. He called what he called it “communism” in the books he wrote that are the current Democrat communist theocracy.
After communism got too ugly and too murderous to sell any longer, they started calling themselves “Marxists”.
When Marxism got too ugly and too murderous to sell any longer, they started calling themselves “socialists”.
When socialism similarly became too ugly and destructive to sell any longer, they started calling themselves “liberals”.
When liberalism became too ugly and destructive to sell anywhere other than ivy league campuses, then they became “progressives”.
And now they demand that Mamdani’s communist core principles be called “DSA”.
Same Marxist communist shyte. But a Democrat commie clown tries to convince us that Mamdani’s communist turds are okay as long as you pick them up by the clean end.
There is nothing “democratic” about socialism, other than the propensity to make the common folk all equally miserable at the expense of the 15% of society that formally allowed it to thrive all the while the socialist “leaders” in power, and their cronies, thrive to an extreme extent. It is becoming sickening to watch the rise of socialism in the U.S. in light of its ultimate unmitigated failure everywhere it has been tried elsewhere. Wake up, America.
“How can there be a democrat party when it’s leaders endorse a Marxist for Mayor of NYC and allow others into their “party” who say their socialist?”
Conversely, how can there be a Republican party when some of its leaders seriously consider supporting a collectivist scumbag like Mario Cuomo’s son for NYC mayor, rather than allowing the fool NYC voters who would put DamnedNanny in the mayor’s office the opportunity to learn from their stupidity?
What do republicans nationally or even locally have to do with the NYC mayor election? No national republican endorsed cuomo. And not even for sliwa, a rep.
Well it may force everyone to come together (I’m dreaming of course) and put together a really rational national health plan. Obama had the chance in 2010 and blew it.
You can have a public-private plan like Germany with cost targets on physicians, health plans, pharmaceuticals, hospitals, medical technology,outpatient care and nursing home care. Traditional competition does not work in medical care. It actually defies economics.
A rational, efficient and cost conscious national health plan would also help costs all through the economy and make it more competitive.
The Canadian Model and National Health Service of Britain Model are to be avoided at all costs. They severely ration care and it’s proven in their cancer survival rates.
It has to be dealt with no matter what because of the debt the national faces.
You can have a public-private plan like Germany… so you read an artile on wikipedia and of course it is not accurate.
Private plan is an option, .i.e, AOK etc. available based on annual income. Public is for low income .i.e, DAK, Barmer, KKH etc.
You are wrong about competition in health care, (you confuse medical care with health care, two different concepts.
All in all it works very well in Germany.
In fact your statements about medical economics are fully inaccurate, but you wouldn’t know that reading wikipedia.
“Traditional competition does not work in medical care. It actually defies economics.”
Why not? How does the health care industry defy economics (whatever that means)?
Health care is a service industry, just like hospitality, auto mechanics, accounting. Ideally: I want X service from my doctor. He tells me the price is Y. I pay it or I don’t.
“Ideally: I want X service from my doctor. He tells me the price is Y. I pay it or I don’t.”
That is preferably how it should work. However, like a lot of other professions that require a lot of training and certification, heath care (imo) has become somewhat insular, and its providers as a group seem to get sucked into the tactic of mystifying what they do in order to justify their paychecks and other perks. Maybe there is an element of guilt there?
Come on, Dr. GEB, as physicians we knew from the beginning that Obamacare was destined to fail, if not to eventually implode. Obama blew it in 2010 when the option for expanded Health Savings Accounts was dismissed out of hand for government run Obamacare instead. The money that has been wasted on Obamacare premium subsidies, money that basically eventually flows to health insurance companies, could have instead been placed into the HSAs of citizens who could not afford to do so themselves. Doing so would have empowered patients and would have driven competition between hospitals and physicians for patients and their healthcare dollars. Instead, Obamacare has basically become another Democrat circular funding scam where taxpayer dollars enrich health insurance companies and health insurance executives who then in turn use their riches to donate to Democrats and to Democrat PACs so that the scam continues. That’s what is motivating Schumer and the Democrats for this shutdown. Don’t think for a minute that it’s about patients, medical care, or healthcare.
Remember this statement. Lets pass the bill to see whats in the bill!
Vincente, you’ve got it right. Medical care was wrecked by Obamacare, and worse, what used to be medical care has been taken over by corporations, something only made possible through government intervention.
If we want to return to sanity, we have to recognize a simple truth: heavy government involvement destroys the marketplace. That didn’t start with Obamacare. It began during World War II, when medical benefits became tax-deductible. From that moment forward, the government was sitting at the bedside with the doctor.
We had real alternatives before Medicare. Hayek, no radical, but a sober conservative, made the point clearly: a wealthy nation can help the poor, but it must do so with the least interference in the marketplace. Minimal interference preserves innovation, competition, and patient choice. That is the foundation of sound health policy.
SMeyer – it began earlier than WWII. For your consideration… https://www.quora.com/Whats-wrong-with-the-US-healthcare-system/answer/Andrew-M-Baer
JAFO, interesting history, but everything has an earlier beginning. I mentioned government intervention through tax-free distortions in healthcare, but it’s worth noting that workers’ compensation around 1910 was a state program, not a federal one. The federal role in medical care didn’t begin there.
Every member of Congress who abdicates responsibility to meet statutory deadlines is flaunting their Oath to uphold the Constitution. A few of us Americans know that there is no mention of political parties in that blueprint for governing. The Speaker of the House and Presiding Office of the Senate are non-partisan leadership Offices.
At some point, we may have to legally challenge the R & D parties as “parallel governments” in direct competition with the the one drawing its legitimacy from the Constitution. Yes, our framework allows “free association” (the ability to form organizations), but not for any supplanting the authorities to govern per the Constitution.
We saw in Turkey an attempt to secretly assemble a parallel governing structure (the Gulenists). What we have is dangerously headed in that direction, where the 2 parties arrogate to their own organizations governing powers that supercede and defy the written Constitution. Chuck Schumer is not a Constitutional Officer. J.D. Vance is supposed to Preside over the Senate, and yet does nothing while it flounders in dysfunction.
J.D. Vance is supposed to Preside over the Senate, and yet does nothing while it flounders in dysfunction.
JD Vance is not a Democrat but he is world’s away from Virginia Democrat Attorney General Nominee Jay Jones who would have. As a paid troll you would likely delight in a Democrat killing a Republican. Thankfully your wet dream is not ours
Jay Jones, a Democratic candidate for Virginia Attorney General, faced serious backlash for a series of text messages suggesting violent actions against political opponents. The texts included disturbing remarks directed towards Todd Gilbert, the former Speaker of the House of Delegates, and their content is as follows:
“Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head.” – In this text, Jones explicitly names Gilbert alongside infamous historical figures, implying violent retribution.
“Spoiler: put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets every time.” – This message reinforces the violent sentiment towards Gilbert.
In response to a colleague who urged him to stop making such comments, Jones maintained that he was discussing political realities, stating: “Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy.” His remarks were met with widespread condemnation, and he later issued an apology acknowledging the severity of his statements.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/virginia-dem-jay-jones-fatherhood-themed-post-sparks-outrage-over-past-text-wishing-harm-republicans-kids
Just so you know, budget resolutions are not: in the the Constitution.
pbinca posted: “Yes, our framework allows “free association” (the ability to form organizations), but not for any supplanting the authorities to govern per the Constitution.”
It was just a few short weeks ago that you were demanding that Americans’ Second Amendment rights be violated by government requiring young adults to first serve and complete an apprenticeship under a “mature adult” in order to slowly gain increasing access to some level of the rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. With the definitions of what is too young to be trusted and old enough to be a trusted mature adult defined by police state fascists like you.
Now you’re back attempting to be an authority on how First Amendment rights should be defined and controlled by people like you.
If you were persuasive rather than a hypocritical Kalifornia laughing stock, you would be scary.
A few of us Americans know that there is no mention of political parties in that blueprint for governing.
And how many Democrats from California like you are completely unaware that there is absolutely no mention of the right to vote in that blueprint Constitution? And for women in particular to vote?
This is 100% the Democrat Shutdown!
They made Obamacare unaffordable, they lavish billions on illegals, EVERY Democrat Voter HATES America
STOP voting Democrat!
I demand we OUTLAW public unions, the political ARMY of the democrats!
You demand? You’re a clown.
It is difficult for an objective bystander not to feel that the House Democrats decided to stand back and let the house burn down was easier and more practical than pumping water from the swimming pool.
What were they thinking? Clearly it was out of touch with the overwhelming majority support for passing that clean CR immediately and then jumping at once onto the SNAP and WIC disasters next on the To-Do list. Now, it is also competing with rate increase announcements for all insurance, medicare, and medicaid — all of which are in complete misalignment with the computed cost-of-living.
Now the Dems must choose between their union supporters and the marxist progressive wing of their party. They put themselves in this position. Let them suffer the consequences. AOC might wind up a senator yet.
It’s quite amusing to see how the term “reportedly” is being thrown around. Let’s be honest—Turley appears to be trying to hop onto the pressure bandwagon in an effort to push Democrats to bring the ongoing shutdown to a close. But let’s not forget, Republicans currently hold the reins of power. They dominate both chambers of Congress and the executive branch, which means they have the authority to resolve the shutdown at any moment.
The situation is becoming increasingly uncomfortable for the Republicans because the public perception largely places the blame on them for this crisis. All they need to do is pass the extension of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies and roll back the steep cuts to Medicaid. As long as they continue to stall on these critical measures, the Democrats stand to benefit from the prolonged shutdown.
Once the public starts to feel the impact of soaring health insurance premiums—potentially doubling or tripling—Republicans will find themselves in a challenging position, needing to justify their inaction. The ball is in their court; they have the power to end this situation whenever they choose.
53 Republican Senators. 60 votes needed to end the shutdown. Republicans do not have the authority to end the shutdown at any moment.
You think merely Senators can end it. It requires House members too.
53 makes them the Majority. They can join Democrats in a vote to end the shut down. None will.
They can also end the filibuster rule as the majority party.
“They can also ends the filibuster rule as the majority party.”
Sure, and that’s one of the rare accurate things George Svelaz X has ever said. Most of the rest is invention to fit whatever argument he’s pushing at the moment.
If one reads him across threads, the contradictions pile up. He is not a source of information. He is noise. Treat him as such.
Today, Democrats are politically bleeding from this shutdown. Republicans don’t need to rush. But if public pressure swings the other way, Republicans have the nuclear option. And they can frame it exactly right: a one-time emergency action to reopen government for the public good, not a permanent rule change. That’s a clean message and a winning one.
Do you even know what you are talking about?
X parrots the DNC talking points day after day, just as his employer pays him to do. He will not deviate from his job tasks unless if you pay him more than George Soros
Yes, they do. Sen. Fetterman and many others are seeking a Senate rule change that eliminates the fillibuster for Clean CR’s.
I am generally a fan of the fillibuster. And I will likely vote against this.
But it is within the power of the GOP to change the rules unilaterally with a simple majority.
But they actually likely could get 60 votes for this change to the Fillibuster.
I would further note that budget matters are already MOSTLY not subject to fillibuster.
Wait, you are not a fan of filibusters? So what?
Work hard on your reading comprehension, you are in desperate need for improvement.
As long as the filibuster remains, the Republicans can only end this by either capitulating to the Democrats or eliminating the filibuster rule. Sorry, but you are wrong, it is the Democrats that are to blame here.
Nobody is blaming the Democrats. Republicans are seen as the ones holding things up. They are still the majority party in both houses. They control the agenda, vote schedules and rules.
george
Nobody is blaming the Democrats.
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Wrong.. polling shows you dems are in trouble.
DustOff,
Actually polling is now moot. The AFGE just gave the Republicans the mandate they were right.
“It’s time to pass a clean continuing resolution and end this shutdown today. No half measures, and no gamesmanship.”
— AFGE President Everett Kelly
That is what Republicans have been trying to do for the past four weeks, is to pass a clean CR. And Democrats have voted against that, every single time.
X, how many attempt shave the reps made to resolve? Last count I know: 15. Seems you forgot that key fact.
“Nobody is blaming the Democrats.”
Mad King George/X: now proclaiming he has appointed himself not only spokesman for all Americans, but also the authority to speak on behalf of elected Republican politicians on who they blame for this.
Should we poll America’s Republicans to determine if he’s lying? How about Republicans in government? How about those here who voted Republican?
If Mad King George/X didn’t have childish grade school level lyin’ and denyin’ to go with his communist fantasies, there wouldn’t be a single arrow in that communist war quiver of his.
If he didn’t come here every day, obsessively following Professor Turley around while yapping and barking at his heels, there would be no meaning in his life.
george
Republicans currently hold the reins of power.
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Lying already.. takes 60 votes fool. Dems refuse.
I’m old enough to remember the reason healthcare costs are out of control is because of the Democrat’s ACA, not because other taxpayers aren’t paying enough of my bills for me. I stand to have my monthly premiums double. I’m fine with that. Not because I have any idea how I can cover the additional cost, but because other people shouldn’t have to pay my bills for me. In the end, these subsidies are part of our out of control deficit spending. We’re $37T in debt and paying over $1T per year in interest to service it. Since Republicans already miserably failed to address that with their big ugly bill, I’ll take what I can get with ending these subsidies – just as they were written to sunset by the Democrats.
“It’s quite amusing to see how the term “reportedly” is being thrown around.”
So Sen. Durbin saying something is meaningless to you ?
Regardless, who cares ?
Sage advice is do not pick a fight you can not win.
This was one. Trump is president, and this is his 2nd shutdown. He is far better prepared.
He has done far better at messaging.
He has done far better at assuring that the pain of the shutdown is mostly NOT going to generate pressure on republicans.
Further Democrats chose to make this a fight over absurd demands.
I am fine if AFGE is not looking to end the shutdown.
I am fine with the shutdown going on and on.
There is already growing dissension with democrats.
Fetterman is ready to vote for a clean CR and telling the GOP to narrowly change senate rules to pass a clean CR to prevent a shutdown with a simple majority.
I am not personally advocating for Senate rule changes one way or the other.
But Democrats are.
But lets say that is all just “some reporting”
Trump’s numbers are holding.
Democrats are sliding.
While the majority of people do not agree on how, they are unified in wanting government spending cut.
And the pressure to end this is on democrats not Trump.
Even if Trump eventually capitulates – which I doubt.
Democrats still lose.
They MIGHT solidify their base.
But they will have pissed off the majority of voters.
But het – Democrats can do as they please.
I am OK with the government shutting down forever.
” Let’s be honest—Turley appears to be trying to hop onto the pressure bandwagon in an effort to push Democrats to bring the ongoing shutdown to a close. ”
Continue the shutdown, don’t – one of the problems the left has is that most of the pain points this time afflict Democrat constituencies. not republicans.
“But let’s not forget, Republicans currently hold the reins of power. They dominate both chambers of Congress and the executive branch, which means they have the authority to resolve the shutdown at any moment.”
Yes, they can end the Fillibuster for clean CR’s like Fetterman and many republicans and democrats are proposing.
Regardless they can not unilaterally end the shutdown without a Senate rules change.
I do not care about this particular rule – most budget matters have not been subject to filliuster for decades.
But the Senate can decide whatever it wants here.
The outcome of this is all but certain – A Clean CR.
I personally have little problem with the minority party leveraging the fillibuster to accomplish policy goals.
My problem is with the stupid policy goals of Democrats.
Spending needs to be CUT not increased.
“The situation is becoming increasingly uncomfortable for the Republicans because the public perception largely places the blame on them for this crisis.”
All in your head.
There is no crisis.
There is very little pressure on the GOP or Trump.
Further the Shutdown ceeds the news cycle to Trump.
Trump is busy jetting arround the world closing deals – and that is what people see and hear.
Democrats get very little air time, and when they do the questions are “when are you going to cave”.
” All they need to do is pass the extension of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies and roll back the steep cuts to Medicaid. As long as they continue to stall on these critical measures, the Democrats stand to benefit from the prolonged shutdown.”
Your spun version of this will not happen. ACA and Medicare are going BACK to Pre Covid spending levels.
ACA should just be obliterated entirely – is it a massive waste of money for no benefit.
I know you left wing nuts beleive anything you can slip into legislation in an emergencey must become permanent.
But that is not so.
I would further note – Governmnt spending is getting CUT and cut drastically – we are spending beyond our means.
We are spending at levels that HARM the economy.
The only question is what will trigger the spending cuts – we can do so voluntarily and with less pain now, or we can wait until the cuts are more painful and even deeper.
“Once the public starts to feel the impact of soaring health insurance premiums—potentially doubling or tripling—Republicans will find themselves in a challenging position, needing to justify their inaction. The ball is in their court; they have the power to end this situation whenever they choose.”
Why do you think that health insurance premiums are going to spike ?
Likely the opposite is true. Private health insurance subsidizes ACA and Medicaid – even medicare.
The less ACA and medicaid spending there is the less private insurance must subsidize.
More stoopid shite from say.
OR, you can’t read
John Say,
“ So Sen. Durbin saying something is meaningless to you ?”
Sen. Durbin is merely musing for the press. He’s not going to be seriously considering it. Turley’s ample use of the word “reportedly” and “allegedly” shows he’s only making the same assumption media is.
“ He is far better prepared.
He has done far better at messaging.
He has done far better at assuring that the pain of the shutdown is mostly NOT going to generate pressure on republicans.
Further Democrats chose to make this a fight over absurd demands.”
ROLF!
Republicans are panicking over their inability to lay blame on Democrats for the shutdown. Trump is barely prepared. He never plans things. He shoots his mouth off most of the time and deals with the consequences later.
“ Twenty-two days into a government shutdown after Congress hit a budget impasse, 45 percent of registered voters think Republicans in Congress are more responsible for the government shutdown, while 39 percent think Democrats in Congress are more responsible and 11 percent volunteered that they think both parties are equally responsible, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll of registered voters released today.”
“ Among independents, 48 percent think Republicans in Congress are more responsible, while 32 percent think Democrats in Congress are more responsible and 14 percent volunteered that they think both parties are equally responsible.“
“ Forty percent of voters approve of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as president, while 54 percent disapprove.
This compares to Quinnipiac University’s September 24 poll when 38 percent approved and 54 percent disapproved.”
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3938
the economy: 38 percent approve, while 57 percent disapprove, with 5 percent not offering an opinion;
the Russia – Ukraine war: 36 percent approve, while 54 percent disapprove, with 10 percent not offering an opinion.”
“ Yet poll after poll finds that slightly more Americans think Republicans are to blame for the shutdown than those who think Democrats are at fault.
An Oct. 15-20 Reuters/Ipsos poll found 50 percent of adults blaming Republicans in Congress for the shutdown, and 43 percent blaming Democrats in Congress.
An Oct. 16-20 Quinnipiac poll found 45 percent of registered voters said congressional Republicans were more to blame for the shutdown, compared with 39 percent who said congressional Democrats were more to blame.
And an Oct. 17-20 Economist/YouGov poll found 31 percent of adults put the blame on Democrats and 39 percent blame Republicans. That poll also found 45 percent of respondents saying that Democrats should hold out for changes in health care funding before agreeing to end the shutdown, compared with 32 percent who said they should not.
That public sentiment has only encouraged Democrats to dig in on the stalemate.”
Trump is not doing well with is “messeging”.
“ Why do you think that health insurance premiums are going to spike ?
Likely the opposite is true. Private health insurance subsidizes ACA and Medicaid – even medicare.
The less ACA and medicaid spending there is the less private insurance must subsidize.”
As usual you’re wrong. You’ve got it backwards. Private insurance is not subsidizing ACA or Medicaid or Medicare. The government is. Private insurance is using AI to increase their rate of denials and they are only going to increase premiums once the government subsidies stop. If you disagreet then we just have to wait until it happens. Private insurers are looking to increase profits and that means increasing premiums and increasing denials and denying pre-authorizations. They are already doing that with Medicare Advantage which is becoming more costly than actual medicare.
Congress has it’s own platinum healthcare service provided exclusively by tax payers, aka government healthcare. Apparently government healthcare is indeed the best in the world.
George/X posted: “Sen. Durbin is merely musing for the press. ”
Mad King George/X swiftly morphs from appointing himself spokesman for all Americans including Republicans to post his claim about who is blamed for the shutdown, to now appointing himself as the official spokesman for the equally greasy and dishonest Senator Durbin.
Clearly, this is more of Mad King George/X’s trademark lyin’ and denyin’.
X——ROLF!
george is back, You fool
“ ACA should just be obliterated entirely – is it a massive waste of money for no benefit.”
Apparently you have not been paying attention. ACA has been largely successful. Even Republican voters like ACA. It’s Republican legislators who have been constantly sabotaging ACA to ensure it doesn’t succeed because it would undermine their agument. That has always been the agenda. To undermine ACA to make it look like it’s not working. Wnen it passed Republicans spend a great deal of time and effort to undermine it because they did not want it to succeed. Sucess of the program would spell doom for their “free market” argument.
“ Further the Shutdown ceeds the news cycle to Trump.
Trump is busy jetting arround the world closing deals – and that is what people see and hear.“
ROLF! What deals? Trump has been claiming to be making hundreds of deals and never has anything to show for it. He’s been a liar from the get-go.
Trump’s economy is floundering, inflation is increasing it’s up to 3% now. It rose less than expected but it still continues to rise.
Current GDP is slow but stil rising. However China’s GDP is still higher than ours. That’s not good.
US job growth is slowing down and the umemployment rate is higher at 4.3%. Not good for Trump or the Republicans.
“Apparently you have not been paying attention. ACA has been largely successful.”
Here we have a victim posting his psychotic fantasies while suffering from delusions of adequacy.
Nothing but increasing debt and unaffordability since day one. Mad King George/X calls that “largely successful” in his demented Democrat Borg world.
John
The second the folks can’t get there EBT. The shut down will end
No. The second air traffic controllers start calling in sick in droves then the shut down will end. When Travel gets inconvenient even for private jetsetters then things will start to change. Business jets can’t move into major airports without air traffic control either. Delays and more delays are going to start being blamed on Republicans as is the rest of the shutdown.
Nonsense
“Let’s be honest—Turley appears to be trying to hop onto the pressure bandwagon in an effort to push Democrats to bring the ongoing shutdown to a close.”
George is like his SCOTUS Justice Jackson – she can’t tell you what a woman is, and George wouldn’t recognize honesty if he ever allowed it to catch up with him after successfully evading it his entire life.
Let’s have some actual honesty from X, aka George: He rarely misses a day to rush here to yap and bark at Professor Turley’s heels, like a fat lady’s lap dog on the loose.
Other than his wistful dreams of an intersectional, bi-racial love affair with Stacey Patton, theologian for Black Liars & Marxists who he sees as a brilliant journalist who he claims overshadows Professor Turley, his appearances here allow him to find some meaning in the wasteland that is his life.
And as Mad King George/X, he swiftly attempts to seize the moment with inarticulate posts where he attempts to use the Professor’s blog as his own. His defense being: “this is just thoughtful daily rebuttal and criticism of our host – not me going off topic with my trademark lyin’ and denyin’ from the driver’s seat of the Democrat Commie Clown Car”.
He could just as easily stick to keeping it simple: BBBUUUUTTTT…. MUH TURLEY!!!! BBBBUUUTTTTT…. MUH TRUMP!!!
The overwhelming singular failure of the American republic rights and freedoms experiment has been voters allowing the continued existence of the vile and violent, seditious DNC and their equally vile members like GeorgeX. The Democrats who blame the chaos they’ve created on the Supreme Court, not themselves: the Court that has given them what they couldn’t get at the ballot box.
The Confederate DNC who have now embraced Marx/Alinsky’s communist strategies since losing the Kluxxer Civil War and now put their fellow communists like Justices Jackson and Sotomayor on SCOTUS, polluting that court in hopes of continuing to get from SCOTUS what voters consistently reject at the ballot box.
AFGE gives the D’s a whole lot of money and ground support. This thing is all but over
Counting chickens?
Jurassic Park. This may be Ian Malcom’s lesson for the Democrat Senators. You were so preoccupied whether you could do it, you didn’t stop to think if you should.
Kelley states near the end of his letter: “The national interest requires Congress to act immediately to bring every federal employee back to work….”
Wrong: it is not the “Congress” that is serving up corn flakes and water at AFGE union members’ dinner tables. Instead, it is Democrat Senator Chuck (“Never-let-a-crisis-go-to-waste”) Schumer and all of the TDS-infected Senators (except possibly Fetterman) who bear direct and exclusive responsibility. Full stop.
So the question must be asked again: who hates Americans and America more, the mullahs in Tehran, or Schumer and his Democrat serfs?
But, but, but – what about those poor illegal aliens with no Obamacare, or Medicaid??? It is almost like the Union cares more about Americans than those marginalized folks from other countries! That is xenophobic and colonialist! 🙄
It is almost like the Union cares more about Americans than… no they don’t. Self interest rules. But you as a local idiot should have known that.
And make sure they don’t use autopens when voting
Autopen to vote?
Pilots assn is also calling the dems out.
No they are not.
3 pilot unions call for Congress to pass Republican bill to end government shutdown. Anon, you are a dumb turd. Learn to search the internet .
LOL…. nice
I happen to to be a private pilot and do pay attention.
You are wrong
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/23/pilot-unions-congress-government-shutdown/86857014007/
John Say,
Well done! Excellent take down of the annony morn with FACTS!!!
H/t to DustOff as well!!