“You Do Not Deserve a Conversation”: OSU Student Trashes Conservative Student Table

We have another incident of a student trashing a conservative table while expressing absolute impunity to do so. The Young America’s Foundation (YAF) at Oklahoma State University had a table supporting traditional marriage when a student tossed their material and claimed the absolute right to vandalize opposing views on campus.

There were repeated attacks on the table as the YAF students were called “fascists.”

Notably, one of the students involved in the attacks insisted that only the government is prevented from trashing such tables and, as a private citizen, she had a right to do so.

The sense of license to do so has been drilled into these students by both educational and political figures. This is a face of rage.

The question is now what the university is going to do about it. The solution should be obvious: the student should be immediately suspended or expelled.

This type of political violence or vandalism should be anathema to an institution of higher education. This is not free speech, as the student claims. It is the denial of the exercise of free speech. The student has every right to set up her own table or protest the YAF. What she is not allowed to do is attack other students or their displays.

 

167 thoughts on ““You Do Not Deserve a Conversation”: OSU Student Trashes Conservative Student Table”

  1. The law has been made clear on more than one occasion. Your right to free speech stops at the point of my nose. This has been the common sense approach since the founding of the nation. It’s only a matter of time before someone pushes back. It’s very curious that the cowards send their women to do their dirty work. The same thing happened in the attack on Andy Ngo. The women screamed the loudest, It’s Andy Ngo get him get him get the fascist pig. Let us in the hotel so we can beat the fascist to death. There is also a man elected as an Attorney General who hollered shoot there kids because they’re breeding little fascist. It’s easy to predict. Sooner or later if necessary they will eat their own. Their own will be a moderate Democratic like John Fetterman. They will never primary the Socialist in their party but the primary of John Fetterman is surely on the horizon. There is a possibility that this won’t happen if they are successful at kicking him in to submission. Fetterman is saying this is not the Democratic party I signed up for. He is right. Like a voice in the wilderness.

    1. TiT,
      It is being reported more moderate Democrats are willing to vote with Fetterman and Republicans to re-open the government. They are all tired of Schumer and Jefferies gamemenship antics. They know it is making them look bad, voting down on a clear CR. Schumer and Jefferies are in a panic.

    1. No.

      Having bear spray would be a violation of school policy. It’s considered a chemical weapon. It would could also lead to expulsion or suspension. Not a good idea.

        1. Anonymous, I see that you are once again correct. Using pepper spray is the same violence as shooting someone in the neck or wanting to kill the children of a Republican. Equivocation is always they first reaction of the maniacal.

          1. TiT,
            Well said. As I also noted, now the annony moron claims sarcasm is the same as violence too.
            Quite the leap in logic, wouldn’t you say?

      1. X, you are correct in your interpretation but it should also apply to people who are throwing frozen ice bottles at police or knocking Andy Ngo to the ground and giving him a concussion. We, through your comments have come to understand that these are your black clad brothers in arms. I see that selective outrage has once again raised its ugly head in another of your comments. Your heartfelt concern is duly noticed.

  2. Meanwhile, in the Alternate Universe of Chicago . . ., where Payback exists:

    “Females be thinking they can do this kinda stuff and walk Earth freely”

  3. It is simple…very simple…old fashioned American way….break the Perp’s nose with a solid five of clubs straight from the shoulder!

    Start defending your property and yourselves….and see how quickly this kind of thing comes to a “screeching” halt!

    1. That action would earn the YAF student an expulsion or suspension as well. Violence is violence and school policy would not tolerate even a retaliatory action. That would not make a YAF student no better than the other.

      1. X says: Violence is violence and school policy would not tolerate even a retaliatory action.

        Except when Mad King George X claims that vandalism and physically destroying other peoples’ property is not only not violent, but is actually Democrat protected Free Speech.

        Would a spray bomb of red paint applied from a distance to her clothing also qualify as non-violent vandalism of her property also be protected Democrat free speech?

        Help us out with the answer to that Mad King George X.

      2. Being expelled from a school that would protect aholes like these kids and others that think like X is a badge of honor. OTOH, may be time to get retribution against these little lefty cowards off campus, iykyk.

    1. I googled this to see if it was real. I had my doubts, but I was so horrified, I had to make sure. Fortunately, it’s just fake, but boy!!

  4. Jonathan, I’ve very disappointed in a line in this piece. You are the only person who I read every day and feel certain I can share what you say because it is always accurate and fair. But you have a line in today’s article that, unless I’m missing something, is not correct. You said, “Notably, one of the students involved in the attacks insisted that only the government is prevented from trashing such tables and, as a private citizen, she had a right to do so.” Please listen to the video again. They told her something about not be allowed to censor them, and paraphrasing her, she said, “No, no, no, the government does not have the right to tell you to shut up. I do.” She’s obviously correct about that. She did imply later that what she did was free speech and her right, but she did not say precisely what you said she said. Her behavior on that day was totally out of line and unacceptable, but please do not make her even worse and more stupid than she is. Since the left does this constantly, we have to be scrupulously careful not to do the same thing back.

    1. She has the right to free speech.
      She can say the words “Shut UP”
      But she does not have ANY right at all to put those words into effect.

      The right to say things that are wrong does not include the right to do things that are wrong.

      Further – she may or many not even have the right to say “shut up”.
      The right to free speech does not include the right to use that speech to silence others.
      The right to free speech does not convey a “hecklers veto”.

      If those who are speaking properly asserted their right first – if YAF sought the schools permission – which the school was near obligated to give to setup their table. Or if there is a scheduled event, or sometimes merely by being the first actor – if YAF had secured its right to speak – others can engage but they can not use their speech to silence YAF.

      1. The right to free speech does not include the right to use that speech to silence others. It does not grant a ‘heckler’s veto.’

        Is she a government official? No.

        As a private citizen, she can use her speech to drown out another’s. Heckling is perfectly legal and is often employed as a way to interrupt or disrupt another speaker’s message. There is no law prohibiting this behavior. The only caveat is if it’s done within the confines of a privately held forum or within an institution’s prperty where specific rules are enforced. At an open public area like a school sidewalk it’s like you said, she can yell “shut up!” and drown or silence the other student. While it may be annoying or obnoxious, it remains legal.

        Private citizens have the right to heckle a speaker off the stage. In a public space, the government can do little more than ask the heckler to leave. Typically, it is others in the audience who intervene to silence a heckler or remove them from the crowd.

        However, private citizens are not bound by the restrictions of the First Amendment.

      1. Do you even recognize how stupid that lie sounds? You need to sue your high school if you actually graduated. They left you illiterate. You are embarrassing yourself with idiot comments.

        1. W Ross Davis,
          If you notice as of late, more and more acts of violence being conducted by leftists, our very own annony moron, in her desperation to deflect, has to create more and more hysterical claims. Her comments make the sane and normal Democrats cringe. The sane and normal Democrats want all the leftist annony morons out of their party. They are making them look bad.

  5. That student protester was obviously in the wrong, but her actions were pretty minor. She didn’t hurt anyone, and the physical harm she caused could easily be corrected by picking up the brochures she spread around. She’s obviously been misinformed on the law and on ethics. Still, the most effective way to correct people without ruining there lives (and possibly pushing them into the wrong camp forever) is to administer proportionate punishments in a timely manner – get them back on track before they’re too far gone. Being told by the school authorities that she was in the wrong, coupled with perhaps a mandatory civics class (non-woke version) and 20 hours of supervised community service picking up trash or a short suspension might work well. Expulsion would be overkill in this case, unless she’s a repeat offender.

    1. Generally I agree. More broadly I have a problem with Colleges and Universities excercising police powers.

      The college should be deciding between expulsion and suspension or other College specific disciplinary measures.

      The students behavior is at a minimum disorderly conduct, and possibly minor assault, and destruction of property.
      These should be addressed by the police. Absent a history of misconduct they should not result in serious convictions or sentences.
      But the criminal aspects of this though minor should be divorced from the college.

    2. Punishment by the college should be that the perpetrator(s) be required to attend ALL scheduled meetings of the offended student organization for one year and to not interfere with the meetings either verbally or physically, in lieu of expulsion from the college. That possibility should either put an end to these attacks or possibly open the closed mind of the perpetrator.

  6. Professor Turley writes, “The student has every right to set up her own table or protest the YAF. What she is not allowed to do is attack other students or their displays.”

    “She,” Professor? Are you sure about that? Are you sure about that?? LOL!

    1. It did ? How ?
      What yesterday proved was that the transformation of NJ and VA from blue to red states is proceding far slower than republicans hoped.
      That is pretty much all.

      NYC is its own complete and total disaster – but that is not something new.

      Mamdani’s election is likely a gift to Republicans.

      There are many possible outcomes of a Mamdani administration of NYC – none of them are goof or good for democrats.

      Separately Yesterday also provides evidence that the Democratic party is in very serious trouble.

      It is clear that the far left extreme of the party wields the power. That is actually a very bad thing for democrats.
      If you do not understand that your a moron.

      1. John Say,
        Well said.
        It was also a display that the new face of the Democrat party is the DSA. They are the ones in power. They are also the same bunch alienating moderate and traditional Democrats. That is why the Democrat party has lost 2.1 million voters, while the Republicans have gained 2.6 million.

        1. The democratic party does not exist anymore, last night proved it. Its DSA and MAGA is done.
          Mark my words, the midterms will be a elections slaughter never imagined by Reps.

      2. You are in a state of shock. Proceeding far slower? Good lord man, it was rout of biblical proportions. Enjoy your denial.

      3. “Separately Yesterday also provides evidence that the Democratic party is in very serious trouble.”

        How so? Democrats have been consistently overperforming in key elections. Furthermore, polls are showing a majority are dissatisfied with Trump and Republicans on how they are handling the economy and the shutdown which they are being blamed for.

        “There are many possible outcomes of a Mamdani administration of NYC – none of them are goof or good for democrats.”

        Meaning you have no idea how it will play out. It may turn out that he may be more successful than expected. Nothing scares Republicans more than a socialist idea becoming successful and popular.

        Polls are consistently showing Trump’s approval is diminishing and Republicans are starting to see a lot more dissatisfied voters within their base. That will increase when the healthcare premiums start doubling and tripling in the coming weeks. It’s not going to look good for Republicans when the majority of their constituents who are enrolled in the ACA marketplaces see their access to healthcare shut off because they can’t afford it and see Trump having lavish parties, and Republican members still enjoying platinum-level healthcare courtesy of the U.S. government.

        Mamdani now has to get to work and show New Yorkers what he set out to do. It’s what they chose.

      4. John Say

        What are you smoking ???
        What makes you think the Democrats are in trouble ???
        You are delusional.

        In Virginia, every single county swung to the Democrats.
        EVERY SINGLE ONE !!!!

        Loudon and Manassas Counties swung by 16 points.
        Conservative Powahatan County even swung by 4.4 points, the SMALLEST swing.

    2. The Financial Times did a study and found the birthrates of conservatives was at 2.4 per child bearing aged women. The birthrate of progressives was 1.6 per child bearing aged women. The minimum replacement rate is 2.1 per child bearing aged women.
      Progressive Democrats are dead. They are not reproducing. The voting numbers will fall as there will be less and less progressives. They are breeding themselves out of existence.
      And yesterday did not prove anything. Big shock, leftists won in known Blue states or areas.

      1. UF – this is one of many factors effecting the future of Democrats.

        Democrats seem to think their recent bad fortunes are all because Trump has magical powers over people that he and he alone can mesmerize people.

        But the FACT is that Trump’s power is in TWO things – the first is the beleif of voters that Trump is not an ordinary politician and that he means what he says. And the 2nd is in specifically what he promises.

        Trump has transformed the GOP. Most importantly he has transformed the GOP into a party that represents the interests of the working classes. Today it is the democratic party that is increasingly suffering from the perception that it is a party of eletie and mostly whites.

        It is old white has beens and young white marxists.

        The GOP and Trump are broadening their appeal to men particularly, minorities more generally. Families specifically.

        Democrats had the oportunity in 2017 to change directions and hold those groups but instead they moved further left.

        Many speculate as to whether democrats like Fetterman will remain with the party – I do not know and that does not matter.
        What is obvious is that the people who elected him – the people that he represents are increasingly uncomfortable about the democratic party. Democrats are doing nothing to change that.

        The election yesterday does prove the democratic party is not dead.

        There are complicated factors that differentiate each race.

        But the analysis that I have read so far that sounds most correct to me is “Its the economy”
        All these democrats – Mamdani included focused on the fact that Trump and republicans have not been able to fix the mess that Biden and democrats made in 11 months.

        That is not at all surprising – it took years to make that mess. Despite Trumps promise to fix things on “day one” any improvement so far has been small, and though I think there is good reason to expect improvement in the near future the current public perception is that things have not improved much. Alot of that perception is inaccurate – but it is what it is, and republicans must deal with it.

        VA in particular was effected by the shutdown. Norther VA voters are the ones not working right now, and they are the ones most threatened by Trump’s efforts to cut back the federal govenrment. They are going to vote based on that.

        Overall I think Mamdani’s election is a gift to republicans. There is no possible outcome of a Mamdani administration that is going to be good for new yorkers or democrats.

        I am more interested in NJ – Citarilli was a good candidate Sherill was not the worst candidate – but she has lots of baggage.

        Some of the things she promised might appeal to voters – but they will backfire, at the same time I think she is smart enough to NOT do as she promised.

        Contra Perception Trump has done things to improve the countries economic future – but these things take time to take effect, and there is alot of left over baggage from the disasterous Biden administration to get rid of.

        Contra Democrats – the Trump revisions to the Tax code – which I beleive are now PERMANENT – or atleast as permanent as anything in Washington are going to be a boon for the working class and middle class as well as retirees. But the impact of that will not be felt until April.
        Conversely whil the impact of Tarriffs have not been even close to as bad as predicted – the impact is near immediate. People have felt that now – even if the impact is small.

        Even Mamdani was elected by promising to address bread and butter issues. His promises are ludicrously stupid and will make things worse if followed. But that does not prevent them from appealing to voters.

        The question everyone is asking is what does any of this mean for 2026 and 2028.

        The answer is that if things are as they are right now in 2026 – Republicans will lose the hose and possibly the senate – though that is much harder.

        But that assumption is highly unlikely to prove true.

        The economy is a confused mess – not inherently bad, but confused about what direction things are going.
        Trump is a major disruptive force – and markets hate disruption. At the same time postive long term changes are very disruptive.

        Trump’s campaign promise and his policies are to bring manufacturing back to the US. That was slowly happening regardless, but it is happening faster under Trump. But that is a slow process. It takes months to reshore some types of manufacturing and years for others.

        The message of yesterdays election is that if the economy has not significantly improved by Nov 2026 – Republicans are in trouble.

        But any wise democrats would be aware that is highly unlikely to be the case.

        1. Prices are high because the trillions of dollars created and printed out of thin air to fund Biden’s Build Back Better bill and the Inflation Reduction Act effectively devalued the money people already had. After a period of price inflation prices do not come down until there is a period of deflation. The genius progressives who voted for socialism in NYC apparently do not possess the insight that prices will increase even further when goods become scarce as a result of the socialist policies they voted for. And just wait until the socialists there propose a California-style exit tax that aims to tax the wealth of residents that move out of the city, even after they have left. Sort of like an economic Berlin Wall.

        2. John Say,

          “Despite Trumps promise to fix things on “day one” any improvement so far has been small, and though I think there is good reason to expect improvement in the near future the current public perception is that things have not improved much.”

          The problem is Trump supporters don’t want small improvements. They want immediate and substantial improvements and that is what they were told to expect by Trump. Republicans are not having a hard time “fixing Biden’s mess”. They are making it worse by trying to fix what is not broken.

          Trump promised lower inflation, lower grocery costs, and more jobs. He has delivered rising inflation, higher grocery costs, and an unstable economy. That is being expressed in polls and by his sagging approval numbers.

      2. Upstate: Progressive Democrats have already figured that out. That’s why they need to import migrants from failed socialist countries (I.e., Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Cuba, China, India, Vietnam, Laos, Somalia, Algeria, Mail, Egypt, Congo, Angola, etc.) that come to the U.S. and vote to establish government policies and lawlessness here not much different from the policies and lawlessness that caused their native countries to fail. These migrants are the useful idiots and foils that charismatic progressive socialist leaders depend upon for their rise to, and maintenance of, political and police power.

    1. And you and the other geriatrics stalking here are the face of MAGA?
      Check into a nursing home old timer. 2025 belongs to the youth.

      1. Check into a nursing home old timer. 2025 belongs to the youth.

        The twenty-something cute murderers of Charlie Kirk and that health care executive? What’s going to belong to them if they ever see another day out of prison – other than a Prison Wallet that a Harley could do a U-turn inside?

    1. Self defense entitles your to a proportionate response to the initiation of violence by others.
      Proportionate is NOT the same as equal.

      You have a right to defend your property with force – but NOT much force.
      You have the right to defend your person from force – but generally only slightly more force than is being used against you.

      We do not want property owners to kill people who tresspass. But we do want them to be able to protect their property and safety.

      1. John Say,
        In your opinion, in this case, what would have been an appropriate response/action to defending their property?

  7. This was violence, low level perhaps, but violence nonetheless. It was a consequent of hate fueling rage. It should be deterred by punishment, of course. Expulsion would be one outcome. If the OSU lets it go, trying to mollify the campus, then the maxim of Adam Smith is in play: “Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.”

  8. Democrats believe violence is a right!
    Republicans do nothing!

    Democrats are FIGHTING A CIVIL WAR…their 2nd
    Republicans are trying to be nice.

    Charlie Kirk
    “The left has never played by our rules. Only we play by our rules. Our rules are what keeps our side from winning. We either want to win or we will lose under some delusion that the rules mean anything.”

    1. Guyventner – in this instance Kirk is wrong.

      Quit playing by the rules – and we have anarchy and the left wins.

      There is enough within the rules to punish the lawless actions of the left.

      Regardless, you lose period if you destroy the rule of law.

      1. “There is enough within the rules to punish the lawless actions of the left.”

        Let me know when those rules are enforced against the left.

  9. Why are you shocked Jonathan?
    This is what the left has done since the 1960’s.
    Now that the new Mayor of NY hates the NYPD. I feel sorry for the people living there. The bad guys are going to have a blast!

      1. Nobody knows what the outcomes will be. You WISH the outcomes would be proof that Mamdani’s ideas will fail. Republicans are more scared of Mamdani’s ideas succeeding.

    1. DustOff,
      Mamdani now has to prove he and his DSA can be a successful viable party. The spot light is on him. Will he be the mayor he campaign on? Or will he flip for the betterment of NYC as a whole?

    2. Why feel sorry for the people of NYC? In a democracy, citizens deserve the government that they elect. The smart ones move out if, and while, they still can.

    3. “Now that the new Mayor of NY hates the NYPD.”

      He’s never hated the NYPD. Got anything to back up that claim?

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