Many entries on this site have focused on the treatment of women in Muslim countries, particularly Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iraq, and Iran. Michael Slackman received an insight in how both women and rape is viewed by some Saudi men on a recent trip.
Recently, he went out into the desert where many Saudi youths go. He was traveling with a female Egyptian journalist to meet with six Saudi men in the military, ages 19 to 26.
One of the men immediately observed that it was “reckless” to travel with a female who was not a relative.
One of the men said that it was only because he was friends with one of the people in the group that he did not “try something.” When pressed on what he would do, by the woman, he had the following exchange about first trying to get rid of her companion:
“I would get rid of him and try something with you,’’ he replied. “Not rape, I would try to do something, to get you to do something.”
“And if I said no?” she asked.
“Then I would rape you.”
That was it. None of the other young men seemed surprised, or sounded an objection.
It is a chilling example of how women are viewed in some countries and how rape is viewed as a natural response of men. For prior entries, click here and here.
For the full story, click here.
geez, ANOTHER fanatical-sexist-backward-saudi post. why don’t you save time and just post “Saudis are fanatical, sexist and backward” every other day.
pointing in shock at the attitude expressed by young saudi men should only be done as part of a larger discussion of how “who me?” sexism practiced in the united states sets the bar.
until the equal rights amendment passes in the united states, and is enforced, let’s all just stfu about the treatment of women in other countries. especially when the governments in those other countries were “installed” by previous american administrations.
is it a ntural response for every man in KSA?
what about USA?
In the United States, 1.3 women are raped every minute. That results in 78 rapes each hour, 1872 rapes each day, 56160 rapes ech month and 683,280 rapes each year.
Abdurrahman:
From the Washington Post (6/19/2006):
“The number of rapes per capita in the United States has plunged by more than 85 percent since the 1970s, and reported rape fell last year even while other violent offenses increased, according to federal crime data.
This seemingly stunning reduction in sexual violence has been so consistent over the past two decades that some experts say they have started to believe it is accurate, even if they cannot fully explain why it is occurring.”
When you factor in the number of statutory rapes which are consensual though prohibited, the figures drop more. The US ranks 9th according to the UN in the number of reported rapes per capita but still does better than other westernized countries like Australia and Canada.
So while this is a serious problem we have done something about it and the trends are positive. Contrast that with our more chauvinistic Muslim brothers where rape is thought by some as a birthright and tacitly sanctioned by the authorities, rather than punished crime and you begin to see the distinction the professor is drawing.
FUCK MUSLIMS!! They are dirty pigs and they should all DIE!
shoud be panish comman
Abdurrahman, thanks for abusing statistics. The total quantity isn’t what matters. The frequency is. What matters is not the total number of rapes but how common rape is. Now, you could if you wanted to try make a minimally decent argument point to data showing that Saudi Arabia has a low per a capita rape rate (see http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita for example). However, that ignores that a) much of what we label rape isn’t considered rape in Saudi Arabia or many other Islamic countries b) Many Saudi women will not report rapes because it makes them seen as damaged goods along with c) many rape claims get turned around with the women treated as if she had had sex outside marriage.
The funniest shit is that rapes like this are obviousl rare.
actually rape is entirely rare HERE in Saudi Arabia, because it happens 40 times per a million population. while in countries like France, it occurs 1000s of times per 100000!!!!
for those who say statics don’t matter, but (quality, whatever), I bet rape in the US(for example) isn’t about: “I’ll make you do things, and if you don’t I’ll rape you”. no, it’s like: “I’ll kill you if I don’t rape you”.
and for those fucking moron pigs who came here just to swear… FUCK YOU! either be more respectful or you better go suicide sticking a stick in your ass.
aside of that, do you know what encourages rape? believe it or not, it’s the “boobies” you’re looking at every day on the STREET.
this is our “secret”, which is coverring our women with a veil.
now don’t come at me and say: this is stupid.
no, saying that would make YOU stupid, because negating me means OBVIOUSLY that you want to either: RAPE, or JERK OFF(masturbate).