Tran Trong Duyet is hardly someone with a great deal of credibility: he is the former head of the notorious Hoa Lo prison — better known as the Hanoi Hilton. While Duyet has come out for McCain, he has accused him of lying about the torture that he endured. Now, all he needs is a 527 designation and we will be set for November with new Swift Junk ads out of Hanoi.
McCain has written about his brutal treatment at the prison — a record that has rightly made him a hero with everyone except Gloria Steinem.
However, Duyet ( who is now an amateur ballroom dancer) says that it is all lies. He insists:
“But I can confirm to you that we never tortured him. We never tortured any prisoners. . . . He did not tell the truth . . . But I can somehow sympathise with him. He lies to American voters in order to get their support for his presidential election.”
I guess being a notorious torturer makes it a bit difficult to get partners for the ballroom competitions. I hear his Tango is a real killer.
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“He lies to American voters in order to get their support for his presidential election.”
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Say what you want, Duyet certainly has a keen understanding of the American political system. As for the dance partner, I think McCain is as deft at dancing around an issue as Astaire & Rogers were over a chair. So, now we have it, Duyet & McCain in “So you Think You Can Dance–Redux!” Foxtrot anyone? Polka?
Sound familiar. “We don’t torture.”
Where have I heard that before.
whooliebacon,
That is exactly what I thought when I read this. Real credible every time!
Jill
Put this right up there with “Iraq (Furloughed) Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf:
“I triple guarantee you, there are no American soldiers in Baghdad.”
“The British forces which were dropped there have been eliminated mostly on the (battle)field, except for those who fled … It is a complete defeat … Amazingly the Americans have pushed the British to do that. They pushed them ahead as if it is an experiment. The result was very tragic for the British.”
“We have placed them in a quagmire from which they can never emerge except dead”
“They’re not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion … they are trying to sell to the others an illusion.”
“Lying is forbidden in Iraq. President Saddam Hussein will tolerate nothing but truthfulness as he is a man of great honor and integrity. Everyone is encouraged to speak freely of the truths evidenced in their eyes and hearts.”
“Now even the American command is under siege. We are hitting it from the north, east, south and west. We chase them here and they chase us there. But at the end we are the people who are laying siege to them. And it is not them who are besieging us.”
You’re right, dundar. We can add McBush’s POW claims to that list.
rcambell: you and the other two percenters that bitch about bush’s pow’s can put it where the sun doesn’t shine….
russ,
What is your beef with Barstow? Alaska is a nice state-jeesh!
Why would someone even POST this North Vietnamese Garbage here unless THAT person had sympathies for the North Vietnamese and not the 50,000 dead Americans.
By the way, JT, Vietnamese STILL live under communism; not that you give a rip.
russ:
I certainly understand the logic that if you mention something you wholeheartedly endorse it without qualm or reservation. Heck, I remember Russ’ own post on June 19 in this blog’s Bio section about Muqtada al-Sadr’s al-Mahdi Army in Iraq. Obviously, he is a big supporter. I also think the people with the most sympathy for the 50,000 dead in ‘Nam were the ones who tried to keep them alive in the first place. That russ is always erudite and consistent. What say we give him the last word on every topic? Gentlemen, Ladies, I call for a vote on this amendment to the rules. Do I hear a second?
I’ll second the motion…
We shall be know as the order of the Bloated Woodtick.
Whoolie:
I want a funny hat and maybe a white dinner jacket for our lodge uniform.
Looks like this won’t rise to the level where it would be required, but it would sure give me a warm fuzzy feeling if Kerry would jump to McCain’s defense as McCain did for the jowly one in 2004.
mespo writes: I also think the people with the most sympathy for the 50,000 dead in ‘Nam were the ones who tried to keep them alive in the first place.
The results of the left siding with the enemy during the Vietnam war: 50,000 American dead and 85 million stilled enslaved by Communism in Vietnam almost 40 years later.
I can’t imagine being a Vietnam War Protestor that sided with the Communists…
I’m going to work up the escutchenon for this ancient order. whooliebacon, where you supposed to reveal this now? I thought you were to keep the secret safe until nearer the end times.
Jill
P.S. Really, my water just about came out my nose with that one!!!
Thanks!
JT: Please let us know the next time you are going to be on bloated blood engorged woodtick Keith Olbermann’s LIE-FEST! Looking forward to channel flipping right by it!
Jill:
There is some interesting reading in the recent Pew Forum on US Religious Landscape Survey. Seems our believers are about evenly divide on whether the magic book actually is the inerrant word of the creator of the universe. here’s site:
http://religions.pewforum.org/reports
To think the beeb used to be the only connection between REAL Brits in bombed out basements and civilization.
Now the BBC is just the longest ongoing unilateral unconditional omnidirectional surrender in the history of humanity.
The BBC wouldn’t support their OWN troops or country if you gave them free spine implants.
Thanks Mespo,
I just heard a summary of it this A.M.
The order of the wood tick!
Jill
From Wikipedia page on the First Council of Nicea: The purpose of the council was to resolve disagreements in the Church of Alexandria over the nature of Jesus in relationship to the Father; in particular, whether Jesus was of the same substance as God the Father or merely of similar substance. This was in 325 AD. Nearly 300 years after the death of the worshipped prophet, the church had not yet decided how to market their product.
JT
I listened last night to the BBC interview of Mr. Tran Trong Duyet — described as a “sprightly retiree and amateur ballroom dancer” — and found him to be at least as credible as John McCain whose relationship to the facts can be slippery at best.
Indeed, Mr. Duyet is a huge John McCain fan:
“If I was American, I would vote for him.”
But, is Mr. Duyet implying that Senator McCain lied about his treatment at the Hanoi Hilton?
Mr. Duyet states: “He did not tell the truth,” but I can somehow sympathize with him. He lies to American voters in order to get their support for his presidential election.”
Mr. Duyet’s political analysis, while a bit simplistic, is actually fairly astute. He seems to suggest cui bono?
Sadly, while warning its listeners about the propaganda value of Mr. Duyet’s remarks, the BBC couldn’t resist a dishing up a large platter of propaganda of its own:
“The propaganda-perfect version of events is impossible to verify - and should be treated with caution in a country where the Communist authorities still keep a tight control over the media.”
Is it not also possible, even likely, that John McCain’s version of events might be equally “propaganda-perfect” in a country like the United States where authoritarian control over the media is not necessary?
Since our journalists ask so few probing questions, engage in so little investigative reporting, and are too often content to take dictation from “senior administration officials” who agree to speak “only on condition of anonymity,” they have accepted McCain’s account without question or even curiosity — in much the same way they have bought the “Maverick” brand and repeat it like parrots.
You will recall that the New York Times withheld the story of Bush’s illegal warrantless surveillance program until December 2005, more than a year after the 2004 election, and they did so at the request of the Bush administration. Who needs “Communist authorities” to muzzle the media?
Finally, I’m hoping to see a lot more of amateur ballroom dancer Mr. Duyet during this campaign seasons:
Today — an interview with the BBC.
Tomorrow — Dancing With the Stars!