First there was the Death Star menacing humanity. Now, there is “the Death Panel.” Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called President Barack Obama’s health plan “downright evil” on her Facebook page and warned American of Obama’s “death panel” that will hold the power of life or death over average Americans. Indeed, the Obama Death Panel appears to have their sights on little Trig. Presumably, the chair will be Palpatine (aka Darth Sidious), the Dark Lord of the Sith.
Palin states in her first statement after quitting her job as governor that “The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care . . .Such a system is downright evil.”
The following footage from one of the patient reviews of the Death Panel has been located:
The real news here is the disclosure that Palin’s page has 700,000 readers, making it the most popular comics page in the world.
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(And, yes, I am aware that COPY/PASTER is bdaman)
Hey Slart what did you do, get an e-mail alert from the blog moderator. I used Copy/Paster cause that was another name they just gave me over at the Retired Major thread.
It’s Ok Slart I’ve been behind the woodshed plenty of times. growing up my dad use to tell me to go behind there and practice falling down because when he got a hold of me, I was gonna be doin alot of it. How do you know if I’m being sincere or not.
bdaman,
Your frequent comments in which you insincerely ask after Mike S’s health and family do nothing but keep this going (and you either know it and are doing it intentionally or you really have no clue about why your comments were so far out-of-bounds). In either case, Mike has good reason to take you out to the woodshed and keep you there until you understand what you did wrong.
And, yes, I am aware that COPY/PASTER is bdaman)
Damn, busted
I doubt you’ll get him to forgive you, but he’d probably let the matter drop if you didn’t keep it going.
I’m not doing anything
COPY/PASTER,
I looked at what you posted and if you think this is in any way objectionable, you are crazy. All Americans should make decisions for end-of-life care and that is what the questions look like. You are perfectly free to say, in effect, use every means possible to keep me alive if I’m incapable of making decisions myself. You claim it’s a push poll because the ‘best’ available choice is that a situation is ‘difficult but acceptable’ – did you read the situations listed? None of them are exactly things that you want to happen to you. It is clear that you (and the author of the article) have no idea what a push poll is. It really burns me up that the party that had a massive national hissy fit about Teri Schaivo is doing their best to prevent the exact thing that would have definitively resolved that situation (although they had the next best thing – the husband advocating his wife’s wishes. So don’t do any end-of-life planning if you like, but don’t be surprised if you’re in a coma and your next-of-kin decides to pull the plug.
bdaman,
I see you had a piece of this trolling claim, too. Just one more thing that you threw at the wall that didn’t stick – are you ever going to clean up the mess you’re making? Oh, and a small piece of personal advice – what you’re missing in your attempts to apologize and make nice with Mike S. is sincerity and he knows it. I think your best course of action now is probably to make a final apology and then let Mike S. have the last word. I doubt you’ll get him to forgive you, but he’d probably let the matter drop if you didn’t keep it going.
(And, yes, I am aware that COPY/PASTER is bdaman)
IS,
Sorry, but I’ve been having power outages this morning so I need to get some work done instead of dismantling your latest posts – your latest didn’t rise to anywhere near the level of absurdity that the ‘veteran’s death book’ stuff does. That doesn’t mean that I in any way agree with you or am unable to attack your ideas, just that I think it’s more important to refute insane troll logic. I’ll try and respond to you later unless I get distracted. Oh, look! Shiny! …
Last year, bureaucrats at the VA’s National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, “Your Life, Your Choices.” It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA’s preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated “Your Life, Your Choices.”
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=16483
Your Life, Your Choices” presents end-of-life choices in a way aimed at steering users toward predetermined conclusions, much like a political “push poll.” For example, a worksheet on page 21 lists various scenarios and asks users to then decide whether their own life would be “not worth living.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204683204574358590107981718.html#articleTabs%3Darticle
President Bush suspended the veteran’s “death book” last year.
Unfortunately, Barack Obama reinstated the practice for veterans earlier this year.
This was a test for the Death Panels
IS, I did he was such a Classic Guy, reminded me of the Hawaiian days of my life.
FMS:
thanks for the link.
Bdaman:
Hope you had a good time with your buddy.
Mike Spindell:
Actually I was replying to a friend who sent me a video of Mike Rodgers making a statement about cancer survival rates in the UK and Canada. And since I have, under your tutelage (whether you meant to or not), learned not to just accept something I got online and looked at the site he was referencing (Cancer Intelligence Network UK) and looked through their data. I did not find the particular link and then went on line and did a search and came up with a link that seemed fairly non-partisan and sent the info to my friend. I had not actually planned on posting it here. But apparently FMS was kind enough to provide you with a link although not the one I found.
Milton Friedman, F. A. Hyeck, L. Von Mises to name a few economists agree with my take on things contrary to your (pl) protestations.
An especially good statement from Milton Friedman is about economic liberty being an important necessity for any free society. In this case I would propose that compelling people by force (of government) to purchase a government health care plan is a restriction on liberty and thus a diminution of our freedoms.
ps.
The examples you gave above about Enron and one or 2 other companies and that Long Island Utility company were examples of your view of corporations as evil. The majority of corporations in this country operate honestly and ethically and are run by honest and ethical people. Enron was not the rule.
By your logic I could say that since most political assasanations in this country since Lincoln’s were either done by democrats or leftists or anarchists of whatever stripe, we should therefore hate all people that lean toward socialism/communism/progressivism because they are violent.
My guess is that you would disagree with that argument and so do I.
UK cancer survival rates are among the worst in Europe
“IS, sorry haven’t been around to give you support last few days.”
I’m sure that’s just what IS need the support of a bigot, who copies and pastes.
“Europe’s survival rates (for cancer) are lower than in the US, where 66.3 per cent of men and 62.9 per cent of women survive for five years, compared with 47.3 per cent of European men and 55.8 per cent of women. ”
IS,
Of course no link. Where’d you get this one. Another lobbyist for the Health Insurance industry, or perhaps a brain damage Republican Congressman.
IS, sorry haven’t been around to give you support last few days. A good friend of mine named Bill was passing thru and I needed to catch up on old times. His cousin Danny may be coming this weekend,
You had your hands full.
“Europe’s survival rates (for cancer) are lower than in the US, where 66.3 per cent of men and 62.9 per cent of women survive for five years, compared with 47.3 per cent of European men and 55.8 per cent of women. ”
so for every 100,000 men or women that get cancer that means that 19,000 more men will die and 7,100 more women will die in European countries which typically have socialized medicine. Or a combined rate of 13.05%. To expand-for every 1,000,000 people 130,500 more will die in Europe than in the US. That is a very large number, over twice the death rate by car accident.
And people say conservatives hate people. We just know that free markets and liberty is the natural state under which man thrives and apparently survives.
NickelCreek
When in Rome
Off-label use: Oft not evidence based
Physicians lack knowledge of off-label drug use and FDA approval status
“The FDA makes it clear that they regulate the marketing of prescription drugs, not prescribing. The agency approves drugs for marketing with an official “label” that stipulates an indication, dose, intended population, duration of use, and other specifications. However, physicians and other licensed prescribers are free to prescribe any approved drug for any indication, whether or not the indication is included on the drug’s FDA-approved label.”
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-08/uocm-ouo081809.php
I lived with my grandmother from 1965 until I was 18. She saved paper towels to save money. I assumed it was a habit from her depression days to save everything. She probably used cloth towels as did others during the 30’s and 40’s.
“Paper Towels
The Scott Paper Company was founded in Philadelphia by Irvin and Clarence Scott in 1879. Brothers Seymour and Irvin Scott ran a paper commission business for twelve years, but the poor economy in the 1870s forced them out of business. Irvin and his younger brother, Clarence, then decided to form their own company out of the remains of the first. Irvin reportedly borrowed $2,000 from his father-in-law and added it to the $300 the two brothers had to form the capital of Scott Paper Company. In 1907, Scott Paper introduced the Sani-Towels paper towel, the first paper towels. They were invented for use in Philadelphia classrooms to help prevent the spread of the common cold from child to child.”
Kitchen paper towels were introduced in 1931.
IS writez: used to let paper towels dry and use them until they fell apart to her dying day.
while paper towels were invented in 1937 they were not in common use. anyone affected by the depression never would have had the resources to by them. it would have been a hugh waste.
Slarti:
thank you for the insight.