The Obama Administration has succeeded in watering down any reform of the intelligence oversight system — fighting to retain the same powers based on the same rationales as the Bush Administration.
The Obama Administration is threatening to veto any serious reform of the intelligence oversight system that led to the torture program and other abuses. House Democrats have responded by gutting the reforms and retaining the same broken “Gang of Eight” process. It is yet another example of how Obama abandoned promises of change and has morphed into his predecessor on intelligence and military issues.
For an excellent posting by Gleen Greenwald on this issue, click here.
Doing away with taxation via the IRS effectively means no government. No money = nothing gets done. As in Sgt. Schultz’s favorite topic, “nothing”. You know, those little worrisome things that need to get done. Like interstate highways and bridges. An updated power grid that can’t have cascading failures like the current one (pardon the pun). A military for Exxon to abuse.
Little things like that.
The problem isn’t taxation. It’s that it’s no longer representative of the needs of the citizenry. It’s representative of corporate graft. So by all means, throw out that baby with the bath water.
If you can find a way to run a government without taxes, you be sure to let us all know.
OR
You could ban corporations from donating money to anyone at any level of government thereby forcing the morons in Congress to listen to their citizen constituent voters instead of their K St. sugar daddies. You know – representative democracy the way the Founding Fathers meant. What a novel idea!
Tea Baggers have had their eye taken off the ball. And I do mean “taken”.
If we look at this in terms of product liability, I think it is much easier to see why it becomes hard to undo what has already been done.
Actually, it appears that Congress is easily undoing it, but the Obama administration is opposed to it.
What we are talking about here is the Party of No Government at All.
Quoting an editorial columnist isn’t proof of anything really. Suggesting that the Tea Bag folks are “anarchists” is as silly and unfounded as the claims that Obama is a “Marxist.”
Byron,
The Republicans climbed on board the Tea Party train, not the other way around. Their focus is taxation and government spending. For some reason, these people think the government will have to raise taxes if it keeps spending. I don’t know why they don’t just shut up and give all their money to the government.
Duh:
I think the Tea Partiers need to change their focus to individual rights and forget about the rebumpkinlins.
As a reminder to everyone. Professor Turley’s name is once again being floated for SCOTUS.
If that were I, I would ask that we all mind our P and Q’s because of the added attention this blog may attract. You never know who might just decide to drop by. However it is not I, so I’m not asking, I’m just sayin.
Mike Spindell, is there anything we can do as a group that would be beneficial to you, other than thoughts and prayers?
BIL,
I don’t think you should be too hard on the Tea Partiers, as strange as that advice may seem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2zYaKXeyXE
This thread is again getting too personal. Please everyone stop the baiting and biting. We can talk about the story without attacking motivations.
Did I say “cooperation”?
I meant “coordination”.
Tea Bags. Brought to you by K Street in cooperation with the RNC.
I just calls ’em likes I sees ’em. “Duh”.
oops! There it is!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/16/tea-party-protest-signs-r_n_500803.html
And your personal attacks indicate that you can’t abide by the rules of civility. You should try it sometime. The rest of us have.
Seems I’m not the only one with a low assessment of the suckers, er, Tea Baggers.
New York Times’ Frank Rich attacks Ron Paul movement
Frank Rich, a writer for the New York Times, wrote an article attacking Ron Paul and his supporters a couple of days ago, called The Axis of the Obsessed and Deranged.
In it he laments that the status quo big government Republicans are being replaced by “Glenn Beck, Ron Paul and Sarah Palin”.
Frank Rich is worried, because this new type of Republican doesn’t just want to make cosmetic changes to the federal government, it wants to cut out every thing that he loves about the federal government:
The Tea Partiers want to eliminate most government agencies, starting with the Fed and the I.R.S., and end spending on entitlement programs. They are not to be confused with the Party of No holding forth in Washington — a party that, after all, is now positioning itself as a defender of Medicare spending. What we are talking about here is the Party of No Government at All. [emphasis added]
http://kineticreaction.blogspot.com/
Original article at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/opinion/28rich.html?scp=1&sq=Frank%20Rich%20%22party%20of%20no%20government%22&st=cse
Your assurances mean a lot, sucker.
“There is a huge difference in wanting no government (anarchy, which is what the Tea Baggers really want) and in wanting a responsive and responsible (in every sense of the word) democratic government.”
That’s a load of crap. I can assure every reader here that I know many more of those involved in the Tea Party Movement than the person who wrote that nonsense. They are not interested in eliminating government. They don’t want anarchy. They want a government who lives within its means.
We don’t have a democratic government. We have a constitutional republic.
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/AmericanIdeal/aspects/demrep.html
“Tea Baggers are idiots being manipulated into doing something stupid so the fascists will have an excuse to declare martial law.”
And those pushing health care reform on a nation that currently cannot afford it and on a majority that does’t want it, are the idiots on the other side.
I’m all for holding corporations responsible. I’m in favor of putting a cap on the salaries and bonuses of those in the insurance and drug industries. I’m not in favor of letting our government continue to throw money at every problem it sees. If being a fiscal conservative is “stupid”; put me on the list.
“It is yet another example of how Obama abandoned promises of change and has morphed into his predecessor on intelligence and military issues.”
It is always extremely hard to abandon procedures that were put in place for the purpose of increasing safety and security. It’s like saying that you recognize a problem but have chosen to ignore it. If we look at this in terms of product liability, I think it is much easier to see why it becomes hard to undo what has already been done.
“However, a government report released in summer 2009 said the technique was actually used 83 times against Zubaydah. Kiriakou said he now feels he was duped by the agency. He questioned whether any useful information really came from the detainee and said he believes “it caused more damage to our national prestige than was worth it.”
Kiriakou left the CIA in 2004 after serving 14 years in the agency. He’s now a senior investigator on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.”
Read the rest at: http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/03/16/kiriakou.spy.book/index.html?hpt=T2
Fascist sell-out and a spineless money whore.
(Holds envelope to head ala Karnak)
What is every pol in Washington regardless of party affiliation?
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” – Sinclair Lewis
Let’s be clear here. Tea Baggers are idiots being manipulated into doing something stupid so the fascists will have an excuse to declare martial law. Soon you’ll start hearing the term “domestic terrorists”. Oops! Too late! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/21/janet-napolitano-domestic-terrorism_n_470915.html It’s all part of the Bush Crime Family’s “New World Order”. But once the boot is down? Then you’ll see the real Spirit of Jefferson return. And it won’t be funded by the RNC or Exxon or Raytheon or Halliburton or Lockheed or . . . you get the picture.
There is a huge difference in wanting no government (anarchy, which is what the Tea Baggers really want) and in wanting a responsive and responsible (in every sense of the word) democratic government.
The Tea Baggers are the tip of the corporatist iceberg that is Citizens United.
But a tea bagger quoting Jefferson is a lot like Hitler quoting Jesus. They see the problem, but don’t realize they are playing right into a plan that will deprive everyone of their rights – except corporations of course. To fight against universal single payer health care is economic nonsense and does nothing but protect the profits of death panels, er, insurance companies. All under the Big Lie of “socialism bad, unlimited free markets good”.
Horse shit.
Wake up and smell the boot leather.
And then start screwing over large and multi-national corporations and corporate “officers” every chance you get.
“It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.” – Sun Tzu
They have a word for Tea Baggers in the halls of K Street, Congress and the White House.
That word is “sucker”.
Have a nice day.
The by all accounts a gutted bill shall be submitted gutting the previous measure, of course tied to the DOD or DOJ budget. Now who could Veto that?