Submitted by Lawrence Rafferty, (rafflaw), Guest Blogger
Since Professor Turley is snowbound in the Winter Wonderland, the weekend warriors are back to bring your blood pressure up!
I have been critical of the Right Wing Mass Media for its continual banging of the drum of hate towards President Obama and the Democrats in general. Now, there are times that the Democrats and President Obama should be called on the carpet. For instance, for not confronting the Bush torture crowd and for claiming that the President has the authority to kill American citizens without due process, just to name a couple. However, the civility that President Obama has asked for in his latest speeches, have gone unheeded by many on the Right and some on the Left.
We all succumb to the emotion at times and say things that we shouldn’t, but the Right seems to carry these statements to an extreme and they are unapologetic for it. Yesterday, fans of Rush Limbaugh faxed death threats to California State Representative and San Francisco Mayoral candidate, Leland Yee, because Lee had requested Rush to apologize for Rush’s ill-tempered and racially charged comments about the Chinese President during his recent visit to the United States. Rush mocked President Hu Jintao’s speech and Mr. Yee “..said Limbaugh owes the Chinese community an apology for his “pointless and ugly offense.” ‘. http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/crime/2011/01/leland-yee-receives-racist-death-threat
You can guess the result of State Rep. Lee’s request for an apology from Rush Limbaugh. He continued his rant and mocked Rep. Lee on the next program. I know some of you will want to know why the authorities believe that Rush’s fans are behind the death threats. Take a look at one of the faxes on the link below and you will understand. Rep. Lee received similar threats in April of last year that are also being investigated.
I would put the fax on here, but the language is a bit “rough”. See below for a link to the faxes in question. Those who continue to voice their ugly rhetoric in the mass media have a responsibility for the result of that rhetoric. I for one think they are getting the response that they are looking for. What do you think?
http://www.sfexaminer.com/files/blog_files/Yee%20threat%20flier.pdf
Submitted by Lawrence Rafferty, (rafflaw), Guest Blogger
Chan,
“For this Labour being the unquestionable Property of the Labourer, no Man but he can have a right to what that is once joyned to, at least where there is enough, and as good left in common for others.”
Ooops
Stamford Liberal:
It is all about me, it is my life after all.
“Sec. 27. Though the Earth, and all inferior Creatures be common to all Men, yet every Man has a Property in his own Person. This no Body had any Right to but himself. The Labour of his Body, and the Work of his Hands, we may say, are properly his. Whatsoever then he removes out of the State that Nature hath provided, and left it in, he hath mixed his Labour with, and joyned to it something that is his own, and thereby makes it his Property. It being by him removed from the common state Nature placed it in, it hath by this labour something annexed to it, that excludes the common right of other Men. For this Labour being the unquestionable Property of the Labourer, no Man but he can have a right to what that is once joyned to, at least where there is enough, and as good left in common for others.”
In other words go do it yourself and leave me alone. That John Locke was talking about Me, Me, Me as well. Although he does say that if there is only one apple tree in nature you cant take all the apples for your own use. But that doesn’t mean you cant take a couple of apples and save the seeds and grow your own orchard. And he would say the apples from the orchard you planted and tended are yours and no one has a right to them. Because you put your labor into them.
AY,
Fair enough – empirical knowledge trumps even the best theoretical reasoning.
Chan…
I quoted no statistics….I provided you a link to your student newspaper….
Gyges,
Do you know where I can get Guatemalan insanity peppers?
Chan,
You are missing the point – there’s nothing wrong with the statistics, just your comprehension of their meaning.
Professor…..Slarti….
Most people buy what they are most familiar with… in this case it was not bright but..happened…
Chan,
That was a real life case I worked on as an appellate case….yes there are court appointed attorneys that cram ethics and move cases along the system…the ethical obligation is to do the right thing…in this case take it to a trial..represent the clients interest…. is Mike Smith still the Circuit Court judge in Hillsdale County? I had more appeals out of his county that were successful and remanded for a different result…
Your answer is that you’d take the easy road to avoid long term exposure to prison… this happens all too often in cases of alleged date rape….morning after regret….
Stamford Liberal:
“I just wanted to make sure the young-un clearly understood that one day, he may need those he vilifies. But, if ever in MI and I see a Perez Hilton-looking, starving and homeless white boy, I’ll make sure I kick him. Hard.”
Seems to me I bother you. I don’t care to kick you at all, in fact I wouldn’t even have thought about it.
Liberals are sure violent people. Must be all that pent up rage from self denial and selflessness in the service of others.
Slart,
Just leave the beans out and you’ve got something close to what I make. The important part is the beer, cocoa powder, and good dried chilis (although I buy mine preground from the local spice shop).
Slartibartfast:
Those statistics are from Annoy yours link. They arent mine.
Chan:
I don’t think I am a genius. Never even implied it. What is a genius anyway? There are plenty of mediocre geniuses running around posting on blogs.
What I say really bothers you doesn’t it? Interesting.
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Saying you’re not a genius but projecting as if you are a genius are two different things. And, don’t flatter yourself, child. What you say doesn’t bother me at all. How you choose to live your life does not affect me one iota. I really don’t care and find it pretty damned funny that you think I do!
I find it sad that you are representative of the punk-ass kids of today who stamp their feet and hold their breath until their faces turn blue screaming, “It’s all about me! ME! ME! ME!” I simply pointed out to you that once you leave the safe confines of Hillsdale College (lol, Hillsdale “College” … that’s funny), and truly face reality, you will be in for a world of hurt. I just wish I be around for it. I don’t thrive in other’s misery but in your case? I’d giggle my motherf**king ass off.
Annoy Yours:
Life boat scenarios don’t make for good lessons in ethics. But the logical thing to do would be to plead to the lesser offense.
I guess the court appointed lawyer wasn’t too bright for getting me a deal like that. Or he was overworked. But then when you cant pay you cant expect a Cadillac.
But the other side of that is private charity. So I could ask around and see if some private firm would be willing to do pro bono work on my case or I could ask someone for help. They would not be forced to help me.
AY,
SB: ‘…you thought SHE already had…’
Chan,
You’re perfectly free to yank whatever you want, but the statistic you quoted was in no way relevant to your chain yanking assertion – which I considered a stunning lack of comprehension and reasoning skills… Also, please don’t put words in my mouth – I am in no way for equality of outcome (I am for minimums in both opportunity and outcome as opposed to being all about privilege like you…). By the way, I’m a mediocre genius according to an online IQ test I took – if the 140 I scored is accurate, I’m the stupidest genius you’ll ever meet… 😉
Gyges,
Wait a sec… I though you said that you weren’t supposed to put beans in chili – I’m not a big fan of kidney beans (but am a fan of chili) and was looking for a beanless recipe. Although I generally cook ‘commando’ (sans recipe), too, I think that they are still good jumping off points.
Stamford Liberal,
I thought it was because he was tragically and ironically shortsighted and ignorant. Just make sure that you don’t go around kicking bald white guys with goatees in Michigan…
AY,
Personally, I don’t understand why you’d buy your mother something you thought she’d already had – but I guess that’s not the point…
Chan,
Care to answer…take a stab…would you buy the jewelry…its a good deal….
Stamford Liberal:
I don’t think I am a genius. Never even implied it. What is a genius anyway? There are plenty of mediocre geniuses running around posting on blogs.
What I say really bothers you doesn’t it? Interesting.
Chan,
That is BS…. Here it is again…Anonymously Yours 1, February 1, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Chan L.,
Question: You go to a christian school, yes? Do they teach a moral compass? I presume not….
Answer this for me: If someone brings you a piece of jewelry and says give me what you think it is worth…What would you do?
More facts for you….you only have 100 dollars in your pocket…you think….my mom has a piece of jewelry like this…..so you think….I’ll buy this for my mom….she’d like it….You proudly get home and you see your mom there….your parents are divorced….you tell her how good of a deal you got on the ring….she says….Chan….I want to let you know that we were broken into and all of my jewelry was stolen and she is waiting for the police to come…
The police arrive….they find out you have the ring…they put you down as a possible suspect…you have no clue who you bought the jewelry from…it was a cash transaction…You are arrested and prosecuted for theft….you can’t be charged for Burglary as you have had a right to be there…
You are a poor college student….you can’t afford an attorney…the ring is worth about 15K….so an attorney is appointed for you…per Giddeon….the right to counsel…your Court Appointed attorney believes you are guilty and try’s and gets you to plead to a lesser included offense…of the theft…you are offered a great deal….which will be expunged after you complete probation….
What would you do…..Start out by your moral compass and see where it takes you…
Annoy yours:
I have answered and answered your question.
Slartibartfast,
I just wanted to make sure the young-un clearly understood that one day, he may need those he vilifies. But, if ever in MI and I see a Perez Hilton-looking, starving and homeless white boy, I’ll make sure I kick him. Hard.
“The question is why doesn’t Chan want that?”
Because he wouldn’t have anyone to look down upon from atop his self-built, superiority pedestal and would find that he really is just a mediocre piss-ant and not the genius he seems to think he is?
Chan….
If you care…I as would a number of other like to have you answer the questions posed to you based upon your understanding at the moment…..
I am not yanking your chains…When I do decide to yank….you will know it most rest assured…and with you it won’t be a gentle yank….so answer the question posed….what would you do…I realize the error of my thinking in that you went to a christian college….