Submitted by Elaine Magliaro, Guest Blogger
The Mississippi Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans has come up with an idea for celebrating the 150th anniversary of the Civil War—known to some as the “War between the States.” The veterans group has proposed that the state of
Mississippi issue a series of specialty license plates commemorating the war. These specialty plates, planned for the years 2011 through 2015, would each have a different design.
What has some people upset is the specialty license plate slated for the year 2014, which would honor General Nathan Bedford Forrest. Forrest, a native of Tennessee, is considered by some to have been a military genius. Others feel differently about Forrest who is “reviled” by some for allegedly having lead a massacre of Black Union troops at Fort Pillow in his home state in 1864. It should be noted that Forrest also served as the first Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.
According to ABC News, the NAACP is planning to send a letter to Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour requesting “that he publicly denounce the license plate and use his office to prevent it from being issued.” Derrick Jackson, president of the Mississippi state NAACP, said of Forrest: “He should be viewed in the same light that we view Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. The state of Mississippi should deny any vanity tags which would highlight racial hatred in this state.”
Although many historians agree that Nathan Bedford Forrest distanced himself from the KKK later in his life, some believe “it was too little too late because the Klan had already turned violent before Forrest left.”
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Bye. Have fun embarrassing yourself in front of another audience. Be sure to tell them how you do not owe allegiance to the USA as you did upthread here.
As of the 1860 Census, one may compute the following statistics on slaveholding:
+++ Enumerating slave schedules by County, 393,975 named persons held 3,950,546 unnamed slaves, for an average of about ten slaves per holder. As some large holders held slaves in multiple counties and are thus multiply counted, this slightly overestimates the number of slaveholders.
+++ Excluding slaves, the 1860 U.S. population was 27,167,529, yielding about 1 in 70 free persons (1.5%) being slaveholders. On the other hand, by counting only named slaveowners, this discounts people who benefited from slavery by being in slaveowning household, e.g. the wife and children of a owner. Only 8% of all US families owned slaves, while in the South, 33% of families owned slaves and 50% of Confederate soldiers lived in slave-owning households.
+++ The distribution of slaveholders was very unequal: holders of 200 or more slaves, constituting less than 1% of all US slaveholders (fewer than 4,000 persons, 1 in 7,000 free persons, or 0.015% of the population) held an estimated 20–30% of all slaves (800,000 to 1,200,000 slaves).
– data from “LARGE SLAVEHOLDERS OF 1860 and AFRICAN AMERICAN SURNAME MATCHES FROM 1870” by Tom Blake, 2001-2005
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ajac/
Adios jeb, U are own your own,now that my work is done, i will pull off my hipwaders an get out of this vile mess of a blog.I have no more work to do here. I have spotted a few other blogs of folks who are ignorant sheep of history an facts. I will see if these people have relatives who need to be outed there. my stake pile an garlic will be left here. Feel free to borrow them.
See that you two are exposed as a couple of historical revisionists and apologists for slavery?
They sure will see that.
lmao! JEB when u first posted remember i warned you? Now you see why. I was astonished that some of these people admitted being journalists, lawyers, an state employees.why, would what seemed to me to be a fellow decent human being,like Mike, would post here. Me an mike could have a decent debate with a little jabbing of different opinions. But then the mice came out of the dark shadows. So i already knew what i was dealing with.Now i see you do!!!!rolmfao!! But i smile with every keystroke, because with each one they continue to out themselves with the world. So i feel it is almost my duty to expose this blog for what it really is. You cant have different opinions here. They claim to educated but i only see self consumed headstrong hipocrits, and putrid vile of the highest degree! I guess maybe i shouldnt judge the whole barrel from a few bad apples but there is a rot here that will soon ruin the whole barrel. Mark my words on that, everytime someone comes on here an reads, they will see this an see what the truth is here.
Jeb,
You and your mentally challenged buddy are the ones who started with the threats, douchebag. Don’t get angry just because I didn’t cower in fear. Again, I don’t give a damn what you think about me.
I should “seriously watch my free speech”?
You should seriously go fornicate yourself.
You two are the ones bitching that no one is buying your lies or treating you with whatever respect it is you think you’re “owed”.
I’m not telling you to leave.
I’m saying if you don’t like the reception you got here, you are free to leave.
That you’re too stupid to realize exactly who has been made to look like the violent ignorant racists who hero worship a war criminal who shot surrendering soldiers simply because they were black?
Is not really a surprise.
Given that the two of you together don’t have an IQ that adds up to be a shoe size.
As to your “claws”? ROFLMAO. Oh yeah. I’m just shaking in my boots here, massa! Or not. Maybe I’m shaking because I’m laughing so hard at your ignorance. Yeah. That’s the more likely scenario.
I’m hardly concerned about what you think you’ve proven about “me and my kind”. Because what you’ve proven – aside from your own failings as human beings – is that “me and my kind” don’t suffer liars, fools and blowhards gladly. And anyone who has ever read this blog for more than a week already knows that, cracker.
probably a little less violent than you appear to be. You are a very angry person. I suggest you seek help for that problem. You have a very short fuse which could get you in trouble someday.
You are either a big bad ass or a little twerp who no one bothers with. My guess is the latter. A true bad ass wouldn’t feel the need to behave as you do.
Budda bud, the coward who hides behind his keyboard of vile putrid. I notice u keep telling folks to leave this forum. If yall cant stand it that folks dont like ur putridness, then may i suggest u remove it from the public eye an make it private. Then you will not have to hear from americans who certianly dont share ur vile opinions.
Your answer was the childish type i knew it would be. The whole world knows u are a childish coward sir! Be gone little bee. seriously you should watch your free speech. You will not make it long before someone calls you out for the coward you are. I am just playing with a childish troll, the next man may not treat you as a mouse as i do. But if you ever decide to take your personal attacks to the next level i will leave the light on for you. I really do thank you for proving that your kind on here do not represent even a small percentage of Americans.Everytime you open ur mouth the rest of the world sees this forum for what it really is. I will now let you out of my claws sir, runaway little mouse. An again i thank you from the bottom of my heart for exposing to the world what kind of people regularly post here.
thanx a bunch,
brent waller
You have won only the acknowledgement that you are ill mannered.
You don’t like it here, you historical revisionists (aka liars) and racists?
Then leave.
No one is forcing you to stay for the verbal abuse you invite upon yourselves.
Oh, it’s not false bravado.
Merely a prediction.
You’re the one who wants to kick my ass, tough guy.
And who knows? Maybe you can. But I know for a fact you’ll be going to the hospital with long term injuries for your efforts if you’re stupid enough to try.
But please, you two pinheads keep up the threats when your “arguments” have all failed.
It just shows you are exactly as described: stupid violent redneck trash.
Brent:
He doesn’t have the stones to tell you who he is, he probably has a posse of people who would hunt him down and teach him some manners. The old fashioned way.
He started attacking me and calling me a racist for no other reason than me saying I doubted you hump your sister. He must be some sort of northern churl or a person of low stature.
I came here as you did because of Gen. Forrest. What type of people are these? I have never had the displeasure of interacting with trash like this before. Have you ever in all your life encountered people of such ill manner and just plain meanness?
A venal cabal if ever there was one.
Awwww.
Isn’t that cute.
You want to meet me? I’ve already told you what to do. I’ve also told you that you won’t like what happens next.
And that a racist slavery apologist thinks I’m despicable?
Is a complement.
That’s I’ve pissed you off?
Is also a complement.
As to what I’ve added to the debate about your war criminal hero Forrest – and to be clear what you were engaging in wasn’t debate but rather propaganda – was to deflate your revisionist lies.
Come on.
Get mad.
I’ve already won.
Now come on.
Tell me what it takes to be a “real man” again, you would be slaver.
I need a good laugh.
“Do you like the company of occupational therapists?”
I actually do like them, some are smoking hot. But don’t you mean physical therapist? They can be smoking hot to.
I came over here for ignorance and stupidity, I have found it in copious amounts.
But you do make me laugh with your false bravado and chest beating. Much like the gorilla, except with the power of a capuchin, you know the Organ Grinder monkey. Dance little monkey, dance.
Don’t hurt me little monkey, I don’t want to visit the occupational therapist to have my pinkie rubbed.
buddah you truly have the mind of a child to call me a meth head.An i agree with Jeb in that u need a good ole fashioned spanking. Every time u open ur filthy mouth, vile putrid things leave it. Your comments an thoughts of such a vile an despicable manner are those of a child who has no respect for himself, much less anyone else.
I have never done any drugs sir, i do not drink either. ur comments border on slander. I see why you you use an alias sir. because if a man spoke to my face like that i wouldnt need a cane. I would advise u to attend the manners school jeb suggested before u open ur vile putrid mouth again as the next man may knock your teeth out. Buddah i find you to be a despicable human being of the lowest order, you speak of knuckle dragging. Sir you are below that! your comments show the rest of the world exactly the type of so called educated people yall are, your racist comments have exposed you sir. Your friends on here have been exposed for not denouncing you. So now here we are.
You have nothing what so ever to add to the debate of general forrest! NOTHING WHAT SO EVER!!! You came on here to spill your vile putrid racist thoughts. You need therapy of the highest degree. Sir what is your name? or are you a child who hides behind alias to slander people. A real man is not ashamed of his name. A real man doesnt hide behind dolls an speak to folks the way you do. If you want to make this personal, as you seem to want to do. then tell me who i am speaking with. if your not man enough to do that, then i suggest you look up the definition of a coward.
If that’s what you want to think, sport.
But let’s assume you are stupid enough to try to strike me.
In which case, I have a question for you . . .
Do you like the company of occupational therapists?
As to your assessment of my manners . . . I’m sorry. You’ve mistaken me for someone who gives a damn what an ignorant racist redneck slavery apologist thinks. Such as your “thinking” is anyway.
Now why don’t you and your skull monkey friend mosey on over to Red State or FOXNews where ignorance and stupidity are appreciated instead of ridiculed.
My, my the unduly mannerisms… aghast…as they are…
frank:
first of all I wouldnt beat a man with a cane. secondly you dont have a clue as to what a fop is and third, your up bringing is showing.
Buddha is Laughing:
To the contrary, I would do something. But you wouldn’t have the stones to say it to my face.
I meet your type every day, all talk and no action. No manners either.