Submitted by Elaine Magliaro, Guest Blogger
On the National Level
In late January, I wrote a post titled Rape Redefined and Brought to You by the US House of Representatives in which I 
talked about members of Congress—mostly Republicans—who were attempting to “redefine” what the only REAL kind of rape is—that would be “forcible rape.” (I wasn’t aware there was any other kind of rape.) These Congressmen were proposing legislation that would no longer consider the following types of sexual assault as rape: The rapes of women with limited mental capacity and rapes in which women were drugged or given excessive amounts of alcohol.
Last week, Lawrence Rafferty (rafflaw) wrote a post titled The Right’s War on Women in which he discussed legislation proposed by Rep. Mike Pence (R-Indiana) that would eliminate the entire budget for Title X. Lawrence wrote: “Rep. Pence and his fellow Republicans are trying to defund Planned Parenthood because it receives millions from Title X funds to assist women in their family planning and health matters. In order to try to end abortions without testing the strength of Roe v. Wade in the courts, the sponsors and backers of this bill don’t care if low-income women suffer by not getting the health care that they so desperately need. Many of these same legislators also backed the repeal of the Affordable Health Care act which would also assist low-income women get affordable health care.”
And Now from the State of Georgia
Just yesterday, I read about State Rep. Bobby Franklin of Georgia who is introducing legislation in his state that would require proof that a miscarriage—aka a spontaneous abortion—was the result of natural causes. If this legislation passes, there would have to be proof that a woman’s miscarriage was the result of natural causes. If a woman can’t prove that—she might face felony charges!
From a piece in Daily Kos: “Franklin wants to create a Uterus Police to investigate miscarriages, and requires that any time a miscarriage occurs, whether in a hospital or without medical assistance, it must be reported and a fetal death certificate issued. If the cause of death is unknown, it must be investigated. If the woman can’t tell how it happened, then those Uterus Police can ask family members and friends how it happened. Hospitals are required to keep records of anyone who has a spontaneous abortion and report it. Yup, we’ve been waiting for someone to suggest this–and Franklin has.”
Here’s the link to Franklin’s bill:
http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display.aspx?Legislation=31965
There are millions and millions of American women who suffer/have suffered miscarriages through no fault of their own. Suffering a miscarriage can be an emotionally wrenching experience for a woman. Imagine losing a much wanted pregnancy–and then having to prove the miscarriage was the result of natural causes. How does a woman do that, Rep. Franklin? Can you explain to the women of Georgia how they should go about gathering evidence to prove that they haven’t committed a felony when they have a miscarriage?
By the way, Rep. Franklin also introduced a bill to change Georgia’s criminal codes so that victims of rape, stalking, and family violence could only be referred to as “accusers” until defendants have been convicted.
FYI
Here are some statistics on miscarriage for you:
From WebMed
Frequency of Miscarriages in the United States
The overall miscarriage rate is reported as 15-20%, which means 15-20% of recognized pregnancies result in miscarriage. The frequency of spontaneous miscarriage increases further with maternal age. With the development of highly sensitive assays for hCG levels, pregnancies can be detected prior to the expected next period. When these highly sensitive hCG assays are used early, the magnitude of pregnancy loss significantly increases to about 60-70%. Late implantation by the conceptus beyond the usual 8-10 days after ovulation also has an increased risk of miscarriage.
About 80% of miscarriages occur within the first trimester. The frequency of miscarriage decreases with increasing gestational age. Recurrent miscarriage, defined as 2-3 pregnancy losses, affects about 1% of all couples.
From American Pregnancy Association
Miscarriage is the most common type of pregnancy loss, according to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG). Studies reveal that anywhere from 10-25% of all clinically recognized pregnancies will end in miscarriage. Chemical pregnancies may account for 50-75% of all miscarriages. This occurs when a pregnancy is lost shortly after implantation, resulting in bleeding that occurs around the time of her expected period. The woman may not realize that she conceived when she experiences a chemical pregnancy.
Sources
Washington Monthly (Political Animal)
Elaine:
I would consider anyone insane who believes snuffing out the lives of 50 million unborn humans is a good thing that cannot be admitted to publicly.
Of course, I don’t think it is a good thing.
Elaine:
I doubt you speak for everyone, but I would not be surprised that you may feel you do. And many young people (some of whom might read this blog) are not sure who is right or wrong about this issue and could benefit from the little demonstration.
The fact is that the women here who avoided the question proved they don’t have what it takes to admit to what they promote. And unless I asked it, the evidence would not be there as witness against them.
Tootie,
I have little doubt that you truly know what it means to be insane. You don’t need me to paint with words to help you understand.
Tootie,
Everyone already had it figured out. They know how to “draw conclusions.” They didn’t need you to “paint with words” to see the light.
I find it amusing that the person here opposed to intentional “miscarriages” (abortion) is the person here condemned for a lack of empathy.
Okay. Amusing is an understatement. It is insane.
Otteray:
You write:
“You have, by your insistent question, “…why does a woman cry after a miscarriage,” proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are functionally incapable of empathy. ”
Empathy about what? (and don’t say empathy about the miscarriage).
Elaine.
At least you tried. But your answer begs the question: why is she sad?
I know you know the answer. I’m just playing with you all.
I was just painting with words. There is that fellow who covers the environment with orange fabric. And there is me, the annoying crank who has just covered the white pages of this blog with little letters asking questions for answers everyone already knows.
Like my bad attempt at expression or not, everyone has now seen it who has seen it.
And everyone knows why the women cry.
Tootie: You have, by your insistent question, “…why does a woman cry after a miscarriage,” proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are functionally incapable of empathy.
In case you do not know what that means, there are three personality disorders that are more or less incapable of empathy: Antisocial (e.g., psychopath/sociopath), Narcissistic and Borderline. Anyway, no matter what the reason you are unable to feel empathy, you seem to be in some pretty miserable company.
Since you appear to be unable to experience empathy (which explains a lot about your previous postings, BTW), no amount of explanation will reach you. A few years of psychotherapy may begin to make a dent in your armor, but I doubt it. Personalty disorders are amazingly resistant to developing insight. There is no need to respond to me; I will not respond. Dealing with sociopaths is too much like my day job and I come here for something new and different.
Blouise: “Hey, if they could reduce the status of women and thus their earning power and political clout … so much the better…”
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Your observation is correct they get a twofer or threefer with these attacks on women’s rights and even if they don’t accomplish the maximum benefit they hardly lose anything in the trying.
Blouise 1, February 19, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Blouise writes:
“TootieBy,
Why is the sky blue, why is the grass green, why do bad things happen to good people, why is cat spelled with a “c” instead of a “k”, why did he/she have to die, why was he/she born, why is thunder so loud, why does TootieBy think that he/she will have all his/her questions answered, why do my wheelchair wheels squeak, why did I take that damn camel into the bar …
So many questions … so little time …
Why so many questions, why so little time, why isn’t there mouse-flavored cat food, why don’t sheep shrink when it rains, why is the #2 pencil the most popular, why isn’t it called #1 … why is Blouise quoting George Carlin.”
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In the time it took to post your nonsense, you could have answered my simple question. It would seem you did not answer it because it would admit to something you cannot openly admit: that abortion is the killing of a human life and you support it.
That no women here will answer my question appears to be because they advocate a form of murder (as Camile Paglia refers to abortion) and to admit that miscarriage is overwhelming because of a loss of human life is to prove it.
It has nothing to do with anyone not liking me. And it has nothing to do with me thinking incorrectly that I ought to get answers to my questions.
I already know what left wing women think about abortion. My question was a rhetorical one to which you and I already know the answer. It was meant to high-light that answer we already know. I meant to highlight was a wuss left winger women are when challenged.
It would appear that left wing women are afraid to answer questions, but not afraid to murder their own or urge others to do so.
And the men at the blog don’t have the guts to challenge these women and stay silent for self preservation. Their women are hags and they know it. They are going to let their evil witches eat their own because, well, who else are they going to have for potential mates?
Unless, well, that is another topic.
Elaine,
Let me think. I lost a baby and I cried. I wonder why? Please. The question is an insult to women.
Tootie,
“She” cries because she is so sad. “She” doesn’t cry tears of joy. Does that answer your question?
Elaine:
I read your post and the info you copied. And it does nothing to change my point. You still haven’t answered the question as to why a woman would cry after a miscarriage. You quoted what someone else says but that does not tell me what you understand to be the reason for it.
And the “she” refers to the woman in your own quote. It reads:
“These symptoms include: fatigue, trouble sleeping, difficulty concentrating, loss of appetite, and frequent episodes of crying.” (The “she” I was referring to is the person in the quotation marks who is “crying”)
Answer, in your own words if you can, why does a woman cry after a miscarriage?
And I am not looking for the scientific explanation of how tear ducts work.
Elaine M. 1, February 19, 2011 at 5:26 pm
HenMan & Blouise,
I heard Tootie once had a starring role in the play “Guise and Dolls.”
😉
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HAahahahahahahaha!
Most Excellent! Good 1!
still laffing…..hahahahahaha!
If TootieBy has multiple personalities and he/she threatens suicide, are the rest of him/her hostages?
It’s time to put in a movie.
By the way … where are all our trolls … can’t they post from the bus?
Blouise,
LMAO!!!
🙂
Tootie
1, February 19, 2011 at 4:07 pm
“Suffering a miscarriage can be an emotionally wrenching experience for a woman.”
Why?
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TootieBy,
Any woman who has to ask that question ain’t a woman thus another small piece of the puzzle falls into place … he/she
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My response:
Blouise, and yet you did not answer the question. Why is it emotionally wrenching and why are you avoiding a direct answer the question?
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TootieBy,
Why is the sky blue, why is the grass green, why do bad things happen to good people, why is cat spelled with a “c” instead of a “k”, why did he/she have to die, why was he/she born, why is thunder so loud, why does TootieBy think that he/she will have all his/her questions answered, why do my wheelchair wheels squeak, why did I take that damn camel into the bar …
So many questions … so little time …
Why so many questions, why so little time, why isn’t there mouse-flavored cat food, why don’t sheep shrink when it rains, why is the #2 pencil the most popular, why isn’t it called #1 … why is Blouise quoting George Carlin …
Bob,Esq.,
So, Bob, are you one of us old timers? I haven't thought of that song in many years. I wonder: What ever happened to Helen Reddy? She was Australian, wasn't she?
And FYI, the role of Sister Ruth (Nun with guitar) in the film “Airport 75” was played by Helen Reddy.
It’s important to know these things.
Well, since no one else had the ‘balls’ to post it…
Sing it Helen!