Pete, that’s what my write-ins and third party votes are. If you have a different take on it I’d be interested in hearing what your “oh hell no” choice is.
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LK
there is no “none of the above” but sometimes there is a “oh hell no”.
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I watched the dinner on CNN and enjoyed the President’s remarks, the soccer mom/pit bull reference was choice 🙂
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Jill: “Either you stand for certain principles or you don’t. It is past time to stand for justice and the rule of law. This is true whether the enemy is foreign or domestic. Fear does not excuse the acceptance and promotion of a candidate who commits war and financial crimes”
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Seldom do I find anything to argue about when I read your postings so I reply to you infrequently but I need to address the above statement with an observation; there is no “None of the Above” selection on the ballot I will be presented with in November. There may be some third-party names and a space for write-ins but no one that can win and doesn’t share the sins of the major contenders. I’ve voted third-party before and it didn’t work. I’ve also voted write-ins because of my complete disgust with the major parties but that didn’t work either.
It has to do with pragmatism: I have a choice between two candidates; which will do less harm? More to the point, since ‘harm’ is relative, which will do less harm in the few policy areas still in play?
Not much of a choice. While fear is not an excuse it isn’t off the table either, there are still places a president could take the country that are scary. That’s why it’s called a ‘lesser of two evils’ choice.
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DonS, It was addressed to me. No more blogging for me tonight as the Killing and Madmen are starting.
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“….but the Republicans will never give up their culture war assault on a woman’s right to choose abortion and neither will their partners in crime, the catholic clergy. ”
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they will never give up thier culture war assault on women even though it is the source cause of the need for abortion…..and they are blind to that.
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Oh, c’mon now SM. Be not disingenuous. 🙂 Not everyone commonplace is aimed at you. And, no doubt you remember, that “you go girl” is originally a feminist accolade.
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“Go get him, girl”. Wow was that disrespectful and the war on women continues.
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Swarthmore Mom,
I think you have “American” women in mind when you speak of women’s health care issues. Fair enough. But millions of uninsured American women along with uncounted numbers of dead and maimed Muslim women — and approximately 900,000 widows in Iraq alone — testify to a rather cavalier attitude towards women’s health issues by American presidents going back a long way. President Obama, for his part, not only goes on killing and maiming women, but he even finds it a source of pride in his own “manliness,” and so does his ostensibly “Democratic” party.
Good luck getting President Obama to quit playing golf with his insurance company CEO buddies long enough to address a few genuine women’s health-care issues. The Republicans may back off a little until American women return to worrying about terrorist poppy farmers in the Hindu Kush, but the Republicans will never give up their culture war assault on a woman’s right to choose abortion and neither will their partners in crime, the catholic clergy. President Obama will probably do at least a little commiserating and “pain feeling” with American women, if that will gain him some of their votes, but I don’t think Muslim women anywhere can look forward to relief from his drone bombings of their weddings, funerals and baby-naming ceremonies or his nightly thug invasions of their homes looking for “males of military age.”
President Obama simply loves playing chickenhawk “warrior President” and if you can get him off that adolescent maniacal ego trip long enough to help poor pregnant girls and women obtain safe, affordable abortions, then more power to you. Go get him, girl.
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What Woosty said. It was a wonderful and funny performance.
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“I was impressed at the lack of malice in the president as he poked fun at himself and others”. ~Dredd
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For as much malice as I have seen and heard leveled at President Barack Obama, I have never seen, heard or felt malice coming from him. I too am very impressed. Governing may be a ‘shared’ endeavor but class is not something that can be shared or bought. He gots it. (lots of it….)
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Swarthmore, it is of course true that the Dem party has, with no great flourish, done a feint in the direction of women. Isn’t it incredible, that this should not have been a thunderous fusillade?
And let’s not kid ourselves. The women who are “in play” are not the very most politically acute.
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I can just see President You-Know-Her reprising her side-splitting routine about Libya’s former leader Moammar Gadhafi: “We came. We saw. He died.” Haw. Haw. It looks like twelve more years of junior-right-wing chickenhawkism, for sure.
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Michael Murry, There is no blurring on women’s health care these days.
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“BTW, “one party rule” under Bush did in fact work out quite well, for [the Republicans]. Why is it that the Dems could not replicate the same thing? Maybe their hearts [were] just not in a progressive, or even liberal, agenda. They must have read a poll that says we’re a center right country, eh?” — DonS
I wouldn’t know about any “center,” much less a “left” in American politics, but for sure, as Gore Vidal once put it, America happily submits to rule by a single party with two right wings. Hard to tell with President Obama which right wing he most clearly considers his “base.” Personally, I think he has so blurred any distinction between them that it doesn’t matter anymore. And I certainly don’t consider this amusing.
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I never watch Democratic presidents trying to make Republican jokes sound funny — and succeeding where even the funniest Republican would fail.
And I have no doubt but that the courtiers in attendance had nothing but praise for the Emperor’s new blood-splattered clothes. Not the blood of anyone they know or care about so, you know, ….
Next time you see Olbermann, remind him people in the media cannot afford to have such thin skin. He has really come across poorly.
willard “put the dog on the car” romney
keep him unemployed
Pete, that’s what my write-ins and third party votes are. If you have a different take on it I’d be interested in hearing what your “oh hell no” choice is.
LK
there is no “none of the above” but sometimes there is a “oh hell no”.
I watched the dinner on CNN and enjoyed the President’s remarks, the soccer mom/pit bull reference was choice 🙂
Jill: “Either you stand for certain principles or you don’t. It is past time to stand for justice and the rule of law. This is true whether the enemy is foreign or domestic. Fear does not excuse the acceptance and promotion of a candidate who commits war and financial crimes”
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Seldom do I find anything to argue about when I read your postings so I reply to you infrequently but I need to address the above statement with an observation; there is no “None of the Above” selection on the ballot I will be presented with in November. There may be some third-party names and a space for write-ins but no one that can win and doesn’t share the sins of the major contenders. I’ve voted third-party before and it didn’t work. I’ve also voted write-ins because of my complete disgust with the major parties but that didn’t work either.
It has to do with pragmatism: I have a choice between two candidates; which will do less harm? More to the point, since ‘harm’ is relative, which will do less harm in the few policy areas still in play?
Not much of a choice. While fear is not an excuse it isn’t off the table either, there are still places a president could take the country that are scary. That’s why it’s called a ‘lesser of two evils’ choice.
DonS, It was addressed to me. No more blogging for me tonight as the Killing and Madmen are starting.
“….but the Republicans will never give up their culture war assault on a woman’s right to choose abortion and neither will their partners in crime, the catholic clergy. ”
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they will never give up thier culture war assault on women even though it is the source cause of the need for abortion…..and they are blind to that.
Oh, c’mon now SM. Be not disingenuous. 🙂 Not everyone commonplace is aimed at you. And, no doubt you remember, that “you go girl” is originally a feminist accolade.
“Go get him, girl”. Wow was that disrespectful and the war on women continues.
Swarthmore Mom,
I think you have “American” women in mind when you speak of women’s health care issues. Fair enough. But millions of uninsured American women along with uncounted numbers of dead and maimed Muslim women — and approximately 900,000 widows in Iraq alone — testify to a rather cavalier attitude towards women’s health issues by American presidents going back a long way. President Obama, for his part, not only goes on killing and maiming women, but he even finds it a source of pride in his own “manliness,” and so does his ostensibly “Democratic” party.
Good luck getting President Obama to quit playing golf with his insurance company CEO buddies long enough to address a few genuine women’s health-care issues. The Republicans may back off a little until American women return to worrying about terrorist poppy farmers in the Hindu Kush, but the Republicans will never give up their culture war assault on a woman’s right to choose abortion and neither will their partners in crime, the catholic clergy. President Obama will probably do at least a little commiserating and “pain feeling” with American women, if that will gain him some of their votes, but I don’t think Muslim women anywhere can look forward to relief from his drone bombings of their weddings, funerals and baby-naming ceremonies or his nightly thug invasions of their homes looking for “males of military age.”
President Obama simply loves playing chickenhawk “warrior President” and if you can get him off that adolescent maniacal ego trip long enough to help poor pregnant girls and women obtain safe, affordable abortions, then more power to you. Go get him, girl.
What Woosty said. It was a wonderful and funny performance.
“I was impressed at the lack of malice in the president as he poked fun at himself and others”. ~Dredd
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For as much malice as I have seen and heard leveled at President Barack Obama, I have never seen, heard or felt malice coming from him. I too am very impressed. Governing may be a ‘shared’ endeavor but class is not something that can be shared or bought. He gots it. (lots of it….)
Swarthmore, it is of course true that the Dem party has, with no great flourish, done a feint in the direction of women. Isn’t it incredible, that this should not have been a thunderous fusillade?
And let’s not kid ourselves. The women who are “in play” are not the very most politically acute.
I can just see President You-Know-Her reprising her side-splitting routine about Libya’s former leader Moammar Gadhafi: “We came. We saw. He died.” Haw. Haw. It looks like twelve more years of junior-right-wing chickenhawkism, for sure.
Michael Murry, There is no blurring on women’s health care these days.
“BTW, “one party rule” under Bush did in fact work out quite well, for [the Republicans]. Why is it that the Dems could not replicate the same thing? Maybe their hearts [were] just not in a progressive, or even liberal, agenda. They must have read a poll that says we’re a center right country, eh?” — DonS
I wouldn’t know about any “center,” much less a “left” in American politics, but for sure, as Gore Vidal once put it, America happily submits to rule by a single party with two right wings. Hard to tell with President Obama which right wing he most clearly considers his “base.” Personally, I think he has so blurred any distinction between them that it doesn’t matter anymore. And I certainly don’t consider this amusing.
I never watch Democratic presidents trying to make Republican jokes sound funny — and succeeding where even the funniest Republican would fail.
And I have no doubt but that the courtiers in attendance had nothing but praise for the Emperor’s new blood-splattered clothes. Not the blood of anyone they know or care about so, you know, ….
edit: ” ‘one party rule’ ” under BUSH . . .