
Manhattan state Supreme Court Justice Milton Tingling has struck a victory for sanity (as well as individual choice) in striking down New York Mayor Bloomberg’s widely ridiculed ban on large sugary drinks. As we previously discussed, the law was a poorly drafted and poorly conceived ban that allowed a host of higher caloric drinks to be sold in bars and other establishments. Tingling found the law to be “arbitrary and capricious.” Bloomberg has appeared to have developed an insatiable appetite to dictating what others can eat, including a proposed crackdown on popcorn and milk. After the soda ban, a long list of items have been put forward to Bloomberg to ban before Judge Tingling put a halt to the feeding frenzy.
Tingling focused on the obvious “loopholes” in the law that barred sales for some establishments while allowed the drinks to be sold by other establishments “even within a particular City block, much less the City as a whole.” The judge also found that the law created a an administrative Leviathan and violate the separation of powers doctrine” by sweeping into areas of legislative authority with the city council.
As we discussed earlier, I have no problem with banning sodas in school as many district have done. However, Bloomberg has decided that educational programs and warnings are not enough because adults are not meeting the expectations of the government. Bloomberg is quoted as saying “I look across this country, and people are obese, and everybody wrings their hands, and nobody’s willing to do something about it.” The solution therefore is to take away choice and to dictate Dr. Bloomberg’s diet for all citizens.
Bloomberg insisted that when you are told that you cannot have that soda, “Nobody is taking away any of your rights. This way, we’re just telling you ‘That’s a lot of soda.’” Really? Sounds a lot like “you can’t have that soda.”
Honestly, if prohibition did not work for alcohol, it is likely to be even less successful for sodas. Then there are those other items like french fries, onion rings, and other unhealthy foods eaten in excessive quantities. How about requiring proof that a large stuffed pizza has no fewer than four persons willing to sign for it? I think people have a right to an unhealthy lifestyle. This is not like second-hand smoke that harms others. You can be around someone with a large soda and remain perfectly healthy. Then there are those high calorie alcoholic drinks being served with the loaded stuffed potatoes in bars around New York.
After the ruling, Bloomberg insisted “I’ve got to defend my children, and yours, and do what’s right to save lives.” Sixty percent of New Yorkers opposed the limit and clearly believe that they do not need Bloomberg making choices for them or their families. However, most parents feel that they can defend their own children and make choices for them. Moreover, Bloomberg did not ban sodas for school children, he dictated what adults can drink. The ban was facially absurd from the start since it would only force customers to buy multiple drinks if they wanted the same amount. Then there was the confusion of the lines of exemptions. The ban did not apply to pure fruit juice or fruit smoothies or drinks that are more than half milk. Starbucks yesterday vowed to continue to serve sweetened coffee drinks before the ruling, causing an outburst by Bloomberg.
Undeterred, Bloomberg has decided to spend more money in fighting the ruling and affirm his right to control the diets of people in the city. He rejects the widespread objections over individual choice and insists that New Yorkers must be required to comply with the dietary demands of his government. However, that Tingling feeling yesterday was the voice of reason.
Source: WSJ
Swarthmore mom:
Distributors of soft drinks can bring in Mexican Coke or Pepsi, you could ask your grocery store manager if they can bring it in for you. (Smaller stores are usually better at fulfilling requests, especially if they have a guaranteed customer purchase). I carry them at my store and ordering it wholesale is just as easy as ordering the regular stuff.
There is no sugar in these soft drinks only the toxic high fructose corn syrup made by Monsanto. Most people are not aware of this. You have to go to Mexico to get a real coke with sugar or frequent a place that imports them.
Bob,
It’s always a pleasure to see you… I seem to agree with most of your take on things…. I like Locke….
AY,
I’m fine. Just lurking about.
Mayor wants to combat obesity? Let him give a tax credit to any company that puts in exercise equipment for employees. Let him arrange a city-wide program to GIVE people stationary bicycles and to pay them for using those bicyces to charge up batteries they deliver to the city for use in cutting down on the use of fossil fuels. Let him pay for billboards that encourage people to take part in health-supporting programs offered by the greatest city on earth. There are all kinds of possibilities that do not cross the Constitutional lines. What a fool. What a dangerous fool!
I’m a libertarian and agree w/ the smoking issue vis a vis smoking should be left up to the private owner of a bar or restaurant. The one pertinent counter argument is what about employees. Do they have a right to a smoke free enviroment. One could reply, “They can then work in a smoke free restaurant.” Just playing devil’s advocate. “There is no freedom w/o choice.”
Ross, Conservatives want to be free some govt. controls, but are fine w/ others. The same w/ liberals, choice on some issues, nanny govt. for others. It’s often sickening to see and hear. It’s a tune I call, Dueling Hypocrites.
Isn’t the whole Pro-Choice premise that the citizen (woman) makes the choice not the government? There are women who are anti-abortion but vote Pro-Choice for libertarian reasons. Do we really want a Nanny state?
Blouise, I don’t consider Monsanto, Coca Cola or the Pepsi Cola corporation to be angels. Enough said.
FREEDOM
I day I let someone like Bloomberg tell me what I can eat and/or drink will be the day I vote for a DEMOCRAT
What Bob and Blouise said.
Thanks for some good sense, Tingling. The definition of “arbitrary and capricious.”
OTOH, the law in Mississippi (was it there?) to make it illegal to ban big sodas is even sillier. THEN we’ll get a law that will make it illegal to make a law making the serving of big sodas illegal. Illegal. You get what I mean, Vern? What we need here is some really smart law-makers.
The subject is crazy and the birds have found a nest.
Blouise,
Voting is compulsory in Australia.
http://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/voting_australia.htm
http://www.occupymonsanto360.org/2012/03/19/the-secret-behind-high-fructose-corn-syrup/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/03/12/mississippi-comes-to-the-defense-of-large-sodas-with-anti-bloomberg-bill/ I guess I was right about Mississippi. They have the highest obesity rate in the country. . I don’t often agree with Bloomberg but he is right on gay marriage, gun control and reproductive freedom.
I have not seen Shano recently but I think he was for a banning of the high fructose corn syrup. Besides causing obesity it contains GMO’s. It is banned in Europe.
Blouise, What about local control? I know Mississippi would never pass such a ban and San Francisco has many bans that would not be popular elsewhere. At one time the smoking bans were not popular with the populace and many communities still do not have them. I am for cities being able to pass gun ordinances too. Bloomberg’s ban on this seems silly to most but if one travels out of the US, one pays for their high fructose corns syrup drinks refills. They are not unlimited. I take advantage of the refills myself but do not consume high fructose corn syrup made with GMO’s
Blouise,
You are on target today….
I like the fact that you’re not into te hypo…..
Bob Esq,
Yep … we’re on the side of the angels … 😉