In the aftermath of the explosion in Boston, Muslims again appear the target of arbitrary suspicion and detention. On a flight from Boston to Chicago, passengers became alarmed when two different passengers were heard speaking in Arabic. The two passengers were not traveling or seated together but the flight crew returned to the gate to have the two passengers detained.
Several passengers were marathoners. The two men were removed from the plane and detained . . . for speaking one of the most common languages on Earth.
Putting aside the prejudice in the treatment of Arabic speakers, it is illogical to think that terrorists would speak in Arabic if they were truly going to harm passengers. True terrorists try to blend in with population.
The airline bears responsibility for this conduct. There should be more than simply speaking Arabic to have a plane returned to the gate and passengers detained.
Just for the record, estimates indicate that there are 422 million Arabic speakers in this world. I am not sure what is required from Arabic speaking people? Should they simply not speak in public while traveling in the United States to avoid security alerts and detention?
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In a country with jails I say over and over there are no rights for anyone. Arbitrariness rules with fear motivating the actions of people. Devils fear losing the body. People that kill for the sake of killing are to God the losers of everything. The way God thinks and the way we think without God in us is the opposite to what God thinks.
In a country with jails I say over and over there are no rights for anyone. Arbitrariness rules with fear motivating the actions of people Devils fear losing the body. People that kill for the sake of killing are to God the losers of everything. The way God thinks and the way we think without God in us is the opposite to what God thinks.
In a country with jails I say over and over there are no frights for anyone. Arbitrariness rules with fear motivating the actions of people Devils fear losing the body. People that kill for the sake of killing are to God the losers of everything. The way God thinks and the way we think without God in us is the opposite to what God thinks.
Your sister needs to pay you back for what she stole and destroyed.
I think I’ll stick with “disaffected”.
So far, the action seems to have been purely nihilistic, with no particular mission.
When people cheer for the suspension of constitutional rights for Arab-speaking people/Muslims/whomever, they are also cheering for the suspension of their own rights.
I’ve been looking for information on what happened to the two Arabic speakers after they were taken off the flight.
The DHS Daily reports don’t mention the incident.
This is rather strange as those reports routinely list things like traffic jams 🙂
Does anyone know of a good source or a report on the incident – that follows through?
One of the outcomes of this will be a naked ramping up of pervasive surveillance of everyone.
Every action on the Net – every telephone call or text – every finincial transaction is potentially of interest.
Look up Trapwire and think about all those CCTV cameras available to be linked up to that system.
The NSA are building a huge US$1.5 billion data store in the desert – with massive computing power.
The storage capacity of the Utah Data Center will be measured in “zettabytes”. What exactly is a zettabyte? There are a thousand gigabytes in a terabyte; a thousand terabytes in a petabyte; a thousand petabytes in an exabyte; and a thousand exabytes in a zettabyte.
Every breath you take will be sucked into that thing – not because you’re suspected of anything, not because you are special in any way – but because something about anybody might become possibly interesting to someone else depending on how society moves along.
Think of a FaceBook Graph that has no privacy (from any interested authorised party) and covers *everything*.
Don’t worry. The NSA does not spy on Americans….
Well..OK… they do.
But Don’t Worry, Be Happy.
“If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear (TM)”
What the United States of Hysterica is developing a turnkey totalitarian surveillance state.
It’s sort of like Obama signing off on the NDAA and saying that *he* wouldn’t use some of the powers that it makes legal.
He won’t order the military to detain US citizens without trial, he says. That’s very comforting.
I’m stunned that the NRA is not agitating against NDAA and its cousins.
One plank of the gun lobby is “Guns are a God-given right, enshrined in the Constitutiuon”
The other plank is that a well-armed militia would be able to resist some future oppressive government.
That last one is fast becoming a fantasy.
“We have been in a virtual state of overreaction since 9/11.” -Mike Appleton
And the full extent of it still hasn’t come to light.
(And what Gene H. said, as well.)
I agree completely. We have been in a virtual state of overreaction since 9/11.
This is *said to be* the Twitter account of the younger brother
Make what you will of the history and tweets since Monday
From above david Daley posting cited: “They grew up in the USA, their viewpoints and beliefs were formed there. You must look for the roots of [their] evil in America.”
But it may have nothing to do with Chechyna or the family oculd have taught them hatred with a Chechnya background as the reasons or family lessons as the reason that have nothing to do with their ethnicity but with how they were raised. At this oint pointing the finger towards or away is what is futile. Only speculation and an attempt to quickly divert in case it is related to Chechyna.
And as for the Arabic speakers, anyone who speaks any language not immediately recognizable like Spanish or French, or Italian and are on an airplane or in line to get on one, oh heck or in the subway or on the train platform should be suspected because each time this happens seems it is not always the same culprits. Maybe kids too we should stop, pat them all down for guns.
Chechnya president: “You must look for the roots of their evil in America”
Quartz translation of Instagram posting by Chechnya president Ramzan Kadyrov: “The events that took place in Boston are tragic. People have been killed as a result of a terrorist act. Earlier we expressed our condolences to the residents of the city and to the American people. Today, according to media reports, during an arrest attempt a certain Tsarnaev was killed. It would have made sense to arrest him and carry out an investigation, clarify all the circumstances and his degree of guilt. Evidently, the security services needed a result at any price in order to calm the populace. Any attempt to link Chechnya and the Tsarnaevs, if indeed they are guilty, are futile. They grew up in the USA, their viewpoints and beliefs were formed there. You must look for the roots of [their] evil in America. Terrorism must be fought everywhere. We know this better than anyone. We wish all the victims a [speedy] recovery and share in Americans’ grief.
David Daley posted at 11:47 AM
“Were they perspiring, were they nervous, were they whispering, talking loudly or in natural tones?”
Obviously, you have never been on an airplane with my sister-in-law; she’s a wreck even after she takes the tranquilizers.
people are born tabula rasa and can only work with what they are taught. Bad teaching yields this outcome.
It is a shame these young minds are destroyed like this. They could have written poetry, novels, done life saving research, made films, any number of productive activities but were trained to kill instead.
What a waste of human potential. Their parents could have just killed them at birth for how their lives have turned out.
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