Back To Basics: Can You Spot The Problem?

julia_coverThis is why I constantly tell the boys not to learn history off Julia Louis-Dreyfus’ backside. The answer is below the fold so don’t click for “more” until you have the answer.

That’s right. It shows John Hancock signing the Constitution of the United States (which begins “We the People”).

Of course, if the signing actually did occur on the back of Louis-Dreyfus, some like Oliver Ellsworth would probably have stuck around long enough to sign the Declaration of Independence. Heck, Benjamin Franklin would probably of signed repeatedly.

27 thoughts on “Back To Basics: Can You Spot The Problem?”

  1. As you United States historians already know: John Hancock did not sign the Constitution (dated 9-17-1787); he did however boldly sign the Declaration of Independence (adopted by Congress 7-4-1776).

  2. If I were Elaine Louis-Dreyfus, I would sue the tattoo artist that screwed this thing up. But, it might have been Kramer that did it and he probably didn’t even charge her for it. He’s probably judgment-proof too because he is always broke.

    1. Tom – she is blaming some character on her new show, which I have not seen. Given the Kramer law suit, had he done it, as his attorney I would say she assumed the risk and Kramer should walk.

  3. Professor Turley, do you read Rolling Stone, or did you just happen to buy this copy?? Just kidding. I like your sense of humor!

  4. “Can You Spot The Problem?” – JT

    I am still looking … my find the kitty skills are a bit rusty.

  5. @Paul Schulte: “if the Common Core only made these types of mistakes it would not be so controversial.”

    Don’t get me started on our mania for standardized testing.

    Some testing is justified by some professionals to evaluate schools and teachers. You don’t have to be a whiz at statistics to know it is not necessary to test every student to figure out how schools and teachers are doing.

    Common Core which is about curriculum seems to bring with it testing for every student. Aside form the political issues, the are numerous pedagogical criticisms of Common Core.

    One that I find most concerning is the claim that standards for younger students have been developed by working backward from a desired capability for older students. That approach may make sense in some areas.

    But, for example, in math it makes no sense at all. It is widely accepted that capability in math develops in phases. To test students for capabilities beyond the typical ability of the child’s age level only assures that many students will fail – through no fault of their own.

    The op ed page of the NYTs has a thought provoking article regarding reading test in NY state and the requirement that teachers not discuss the test, at least not publicly. Apparently their test extends over 3 days!!! Three days!!!

    I would argue that any teacher who cannot make a pretty good evaluation of a students reading ability and language skills in an hour or two probably should not be in front of a class. Of course the problem is not with the teachers who administer the test but rather with the test itself. But go to the NYT web site and read the article yourself – it is an eye-opener.

    I am all for excellence in education. But today’s mania for standardized testing is not leading us in that direction.

    And lots more like that – but maybe you catch my drift.

    1. bigfatmike – Arizona uses (this will be the last year) the AIMS test. One of the nice things about the AIMS was that the scores followed the student so if you could get the data, this did not always happen, you could shore up the skills of that particular student.
      The AIMS was started in Arizona because business owners claimed (probably rightly) that high school graduates had few skill and knew very little. The idea was to have a standardized test that all high school students would have to take to graduate. You first take it 2nd semester of your sophomore year and then it is offered fall and spring your junior and senior years if you do not pass. Once you pass any section (there are only two sections) you do not have to take that section again. However, to graduate you are supposed to have passed both sections.
      The state universities offer scholarships to those students who score highest on the tests.
      All of that sounds very good and positive. Now the reality hits.
      They give the test to the legislature who passed the test and they cannot pass it, especially the math section. So both sections are weakened. Then the first set of scores come out and seniors are not scoring where they should. They weaken the test again.
      They are giving a test with the same name to third graders and eighth graders and most of us are thinking, this is really good. Those kids will arrive in high school prepared to learn what they need to take the high school AIMS. Silly us. The tests are not aligned. And the eighth grade test is not high stakes, so even if you fail it they are sending you to high school.
      So, there is little me, idealist high school teacher meeting my freshman students. We tested them all ourselves before they entered. It was not an qualifying test we needed educational levels. Our reading test bottomed out at the third grade. All of our boys, except 1 or 2 were reading below that level. How far below that level we did not know. But below that level. So we had to get them through an elementary education before we could start their high school education. We had a lot of remedial classes in reading and math. However, we usually were able to get them to pass the high school AIMS and a significant number went on to college.
      So ends the lesson for the day. ๐Ÿ™‚

  6. @Dave “Her Veep character can be incredibly aloof. So the mixing of documents is consistent with said character.”

    Yeah, this is just the kind of mistake Selina’s staff would make.

  7. Here HBO series VEEP is hilarious and Julia is our generations Lucille Ball. She is a brilliant comedian, smart, self deprecating, and sexy.

  8. john hancock signed the declaration of independence ,did he also sign the constitution?

  9. Her Veep character can be incredibly aloof. So the mixing of documents is consistent with said character.

    Separately, I find it funny that people freak out over such a mistake yet when science is inconsistent in movies, people say well it’s just a movie.

    Well, it’s just a photo-shoot.

  10. Does Rolling Stone photograph all their covers naked or just the women? If it is just the women, shouldn’t there be some kind of gay backlash over the lack of naked male covers?

    I am not making a logical connection between being “The First Lady of Comedy” and being naked. What am I missing?

  11. bigfatmike – if the Common Core only made these types of mistakes it would not be so controversial.

  12. Actually Benjamin Franklin would have supplied several more copies of the parchment (such as it is) and he would have signed in several places, most of them invisible in this photograph.

    I don’t read Rolling Stone and I don’t follow Louis-Dreyfuss so is this a constant struggle between you and your boys? Does she do this a lot? I might have to start watching the newstands for copies of Rolling Stone.

    As a point of anatomical interest, where I come from ‘backside’ would be much further down. John Hancock is in the middle of her back and the clearly fake document is on her upper back.

  13. I am pretty sure I would know a lot more US history if they taught it that way when I was in school.

    Is this is an example of Common Core, I think I am getting it.

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