Self-Defense or Police Frenzy? Investigation Reveals That Miami Police Fired Almost 400 Rounds At Immobilized Car With Suspect Inside — Hitting Homes, Businesses, and Two Other Officers

article-2521664-1A03904800000578-615_306x429New details have emerged in the shooting last December of two men in Miami Dade County. Police were looking for Adrian Montesano, 27, who had shot a police officer after robbing a Walgreens at gunpoint. They spotted him in a car with another man and gave chase. The Blue Volvo crashed and was wedged between a light pole and a tree. Police surrounded the vehicle and then opened fire — hitting the car with some 50 bullets. There was then another period of quiet and the men were told to surrender. Some witnesses say that the wounded men were raising their hands. Police say that they saw movement and unleashed a barrage of bullets. In all, some 377 rounds were fired — hitting other cars, businesses, and a home with children inside. Some are calling this a case of a police “frenzy” where the officers lost control in two rounds of massive shooting.

121113+corsini+valdesMontesano shot Miami Dade Police Officer Saul Rodriguez in a nearby trailer park after robbing the Walgreens. He then escaped in the officer’s car and dumped it at his grandmother’s house in Hialeah. A massive search was launched after the shooting of the officer and he was eventually spotted in the blue Volvo. In the car was Corsini Valdes (right), 52, who was not accused of a crime though he is referred to as an accomplice in some stories. Some reports indicate that Montesano had an addiction and that would explain his unplanned and bizarre conduct, including using (and abandoning) his air conditioning repair truck with his name on it at the scene.

article-2521664-1A03904D00000578-644_634x353There is no question that Montesano was legitimately viewed as armed and dangerous and that police had reason to fear giving him any additional opportunity to use his weapon. He had taken a hostage at the store before shooting the officer.

The barrage was so extensive and two Miami Dade officers were also hit by their own colleagues. One was shot in the arm and one grazed in the head. Families threw themselves to the floor as bullets threw in every direction. Two officers actually suffered ruptured ear drums from the long period of gunfire.

Notably, so many police cars surrounded the immobilized Volvo that the Special Response Team (SRT) that was supposed to capture the suspects could not get to the scene because they were blocked by police cars. It is not clear why, without fire coming from the car, it was necessary to fire the first time into the car. One witness, Anthony Vandiver, insists that the two men were putting their hands up as instructed by police when they police opened up again on the car. Police say that they saw movement but the witness said that police were telling the men to raise their hands. I am also not sure why movement alone would justify the second round of bullets absent an officer saying that the suspects were pointing a weapon. I am equally skeptical with the police response in terms of the level of force given the danger to surrounding homes and even fellow officers.

The police say that they were still investigating but it could take years to reach final conclusions from such an investigation.

Source: CBS

30 thoughts on “Self-Defense or Police Frenzy? Investigation Reveals That Miami Police Fired Almost 400 Rounds At Immobilized Car With Suspect Inside — Hitting Homes, Businesses, and Two Other Officers”

  1. “The barrage was so extensive and two Miami Dade officers were also hit by their own colleagues. One was shot in the arm and one grazed in the head.”

    Another case of “Fire, Aim, Ready. Reload.”

  2. Anyone here been in a fire fight? Lived through a mad minute? If not, then in Liberals’ worlds, check your privilege, civilians. Shit happens when things go wild.

  3. How many of the opCays were military veterans? How many were in the military police? You don’t hire those people. They are afraid of dogs and shoot them. They apparently thought that there were dogs in the car.

  4. I’ll stir the pot. I really feel a lot of these issues are caused by liberal movement of the 60s. There is/was an argument over personal responsibility, and for a long time, the ongoing thought was that people are at the mercy of their situation, and that makes it impossible to fulfill personal responsibility. While there was some merit to that given the upheaval at the time, now it has become an excuse. “Heightened Stress.” Plus that new one… forgive me… along the lines of “stress from privilege?” Even our President, though he spouted the need for personal responsibility, frequently opts to pass on keeping the bar high and putting heads on the chopping block. Well, almost… I read something years ago that stays with me. Wesley Clark stated that W should have been impeached after 9-11. He had enough knowledge to make a difference. But–that was not his argument–Clark stated that in the military, you are responsible–period. If a captain of a warship is on leave and playing golf, and his ship goes down–it’s his responsibility, and he will be fired. Don’t know if that holds perfectly true, but the point being, is that there should always be an air of responsibility–even law enforcement officials should be aware enough under the most extreme stress to keep the public safety first and foremost. After all, isn’t that really why they are hired as opposed to being just vigilantes??

  5. This the same thing that happened with the Dorner chase. They shot up people’s cars with volumes of bullets and all officers have be exonerated due to “heightened stress” That being one of their own was shot.

  6. I know it’s easy from my vantage point… but where is the training–and the discipline we expect from these armed public servants. These don’t sound like professionals, it sounds more like a scene out of Deliverance. Or maybe a Police Academy movie. Plus, if they can waste expensive ammo like that, sounds like the budget axe may be in order. Yikes!

  7. The first thing that goes under stress is fine motor control. This is not uncommon.

  8. It sounds like you have a bunch of combat veterans on the police force.

  9. Sounds like cops were completely out of control, motivated by revenge, and are now playing the delay game. Let’s see the videos.

  10. Great comments.

    They stopped listening to their supervisors both on the radio and on site, and blocked the special team that was approaching to take the suspect into custody.

    In so doing they killed an innocent civilian.

    This is one form of “group-think” which, ironically, is actually the absence of “thinking it through.”

  11. Couldn’t these shitbirds stolen another car but a BLUE VOLVO? Who does stickups w/ a Volvo?

    Almost invariably, when a drug store is robbed it is by depraved Oxy addicts, crazed and desperate. Bad situation.

  12. End of the article: “The policemen that had on the black and white vests were out there laughing like it was so funny,” said one of the neighbors, “because they got a free shot off them people. Shooting all them bullets like that, that don’t make no sense.”
    ………………
    other excerpts are chilling. These cops were using something besides their brains.

    CBS4 News has spent the last five months piecing together the events of that evening and the hunt for the blue Volvo. CBS4 News reviewed radio transmissions, analyzed video taken during the shooting, interviewed officials from the different agencies involved, and reviewed records related to the officers who fired their weapons.

    The nature of the shooting suggests the officers lost sight of their own training and that the officers, caught up in the heat of the moment, failed to listen to their radios or coordinate their actions endangering not only their own lives but the lives of the public.
    ……

    We have the vehicle confined,” he said. “The officers need to pay attention to the radios, they are not listening, okay, that’s the inner perimeter – we’re good.”

    A dispatcher replies: “Units pay attention. Please listen to your radios.”

    Now that the car is surrounded, the plan now is to bring in SRT – the special response team – and have them take over. But so many units have flooded the area, SRT commanders are complaining they can’t reach the scene because the streets are blocked
    ……

  13. “…but it could take years to reach final conclusions from such an investigation.”, in other words, we hope you will forget about this by the time we release the report that says the officers did nothing wrong.

    A dash cam for my car is now high on my list of items to purchase.

  14. This story, and others like it, show the need for average citizens to have security camera systems set up at home and office, not to mention dashcams in cars as so many Russians do.

    Our area has seen a spate of home invasions. Most of them did not turn out well for the home invaders, some of whom earned their Darwin Awards. However, no matter how it turns out, video proof of what happened may help catch the bad guy if he or she gets away, or provide proof to investigators so one won’t be indicted if deadly force is involved.

    My youngest daughter wants a dashcam, but as I have pointed out to her, that can cut both ways. If the camera catches her doing something dumb, or has an accident while using her cell phone, it could backfire.

    That is on my short list of things to do this summer. Once set up, the plan is to record via a live feed offisite, so the audio/video cannot be seized or disabled on the spot.

  15. The conclusion is already known: the police did nothing wrong. They will just take a few years to announce to hoping everyone will forget what happened.

  16. “The police say that they were still investigating but it could take years to reach final conclusions from such an investigation.” — Why doesn’t that surprise me. When all is said and done, more will be said than done. The boys in blue will be found to have been in fear for their lives and totally vidicated in their vengence killing. Nothing to see here, move along…..

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