Texas Jury Refuses To Indict Man Who Shot and Killed Officer During “No Knock” Raid

Adam SowdersHenry Goedrich MageeWe have previously discussed our concerns over the seemingly exponential increase in “no knock” raids in the country where police give no warning before raiding a home. (here and here and here and here and here and here). Now in a remarkable ruling, a Texas grand jury has refused to indict Goedrich Magee, 20, who shot and killed a law enforcement officer, Burleson County Sgt. Adam Sowders, 31, during a no knock entrance into his home. Magee said that he thought he was being robbed and acted to protect his pregnant girlfriend and children. The grand jury “no billed” the case in February.

We have seen other such mistaken self-defense cases arise around the country as police increasingly use these no knock warrants. Magistrate and judges appear to give little thought to approving such warrants despite a ruling earlier by the Supreme Court limiting their use. Police now routinely ask and receive warrants that waive the constitutional requirement to “knock and announcement.” Not only is this requirement codified in the U.S. Code, but it is viewed as a factor in determining if a search or seizure is reasonable under the fourth amendment. In 1995, the United States Supreme Court ruled in Wilson v. Arkansas that the requirement was indeed part of the constitutional test and in Richards v. Wisconsin the Court later rejected categorical waivers for “knock and announcement” for cases like drug investigations. Police must show on a case-by-case basis that they have reasonable suspicion of exigent circumstances.

In this case, the police were after alleged marijuana plants that an informant said he was growing. The warrant then added a claim of possible “illegal guns.” The police found the marijuana but all of his guns were legal. A major complaint is that police routinely add language about the possibility of unlawful weapons to secure these “no knocks.”

The prosecutors tried to secure an indictment for capital murder charges and had bail set at $1 million.

Once again, there has been little attention to the increasing no knock warrants that have grown in tandem with the militarization of our police forces. The result is not just a chilling effect for citizens but increasing mistaken shootings. In this case, an officer is dead and the prosecutors wanted to send away a father for life — for a raid to secure a few marijuana plants.

64 thoughts on “Texas Jury Refuses To Indict Man Who Shot and Killed Officer During “No Knock” Raid

  1. I hope there is enough emphasis in this article that the situation ended with no winners, only losers.

    I also hope the lefty sops who feed at this trough recognize the necessity of no-knock warrants. Serving warrants is dangerous work. Just ask any US Marshal, or the local enforcement agency that serves eviction notices/complaints. There are too many scumbags out there who are more than happy to shoot through a door, killing whoever is on the other side.

    The answer? Maybe judges need to read warrant applications more carefully. But, that doesn’t help the police officer out serving dispossessory complaints, or the Marshal who grabbed a few warrants to serve on their way home. How about this: from now on have all warrants served by legislators & others pols. I bet they’ll come to a surprisingly quick solution.

  2. Notice to Police……. This is the way it should be….. In America, ”A Man’s home is his Castle’…. Know before attempting to enter!!!

  3. I think I need to ask Fred Hampton about “mistaken self-defense” acts when police break in to a home without genuinely proper cause.

    Somewhat like Fred, close relatives of mine went to Proviso East High School, in Maywood, Illinois.

    Somewhat like Fred, I was a Triton College student.

    Somewhat like Fred, I lived for a time on West Monroe Street, in Chicago, only about a mile farther west of where Fred lived.

    Somewhat like Fred, police officers broke into my home without anything resembling what I consider to be proper probable cause, doing serious property damage.

    Somewhat not like Fred, I have not been killed/murdered/assassinated by police officers.

    Oh, no! I cannot ask Fred about “mistaken self-defense” acts when police enter forcibly without what is, for me, proper probable cause.”

    Alas, for me, a few, or a fair size bunch, of plants are not proper cause for breaking into a home, with, or without, proper probable cause.

    The field work study for my bioengineering Ph.D. thesis was titled, “An Inquiry Into the Nature of MIstakes,” for purposes of properly (according to relevant federal law) avoiding University of Illinois at Chicago Institutional Review Board oversight of my doctoral research methodologies, as was determined by the University of Illinois at Chicago Office for Protection from Research Risks.

    I cannot ask Fred. Fred is dead.

    Don’t know about Fred Hampton? I never met him. Yet, I knew about him while I worked in his neighborhood and its environs.

    A simple Google search for “Black Panther Raid” and “Fred Hampton” turned up a story from the Chicago Tribune of 4 December 1969.

    It has long been my view that the “Black Pantaher Raid” was, pragmatically, a no-knock raid, if only because the Chicago Police, so my best guess has long held, simply did not allow enough time between knocking and shooting for those in the apartment to wake up adequately. Perhaps I am mistaken about that; I was not there then.

    However, as an autistic transgendered person, I find that I have more than reasonable probable cause to harbor a strong sense of inner terror regarding my possibly encountering police officers in these tremulous times.

    However, perhaps somewhat in contrast with the Black Panther movement of the 1960s, I am no less concerned for police officer safety than I am for anyone else, myself included. Perhaps, perhaps unwittingly, I am mistaken about that.

    When is it right to be wrong?

  4. (Early morning comments, a bit tweaky . . where is Squeeky from again?)

    Well, yes it is an amazing result, especially from a grand jury, who only get to hear one side of the story. Saying you can indict a ham sandwich is not for nothing.
    This almost was like jury nullification, but even before trial.
    A rare but good trend, unfortunately it take thousands of lives lost to illegal police activity and raids before the wrongness of it all bubbles down to the common juried panel.
    I might add, that just because this jury chose to not indict, doesn’t prevent the prosecutor from trying as many times as he want to re-indict.

  5. Every judge who issues a no knock warrant needs his home invaded by pigs like that shown in the photograph of dead guy. The people in that county need to have that judge removed. He can clean outhouses or be a divorce lawyer. Same thing.

  6. “No knock” warrant is weenie words for “break the door down warrant without ringing the doorbell warrant”. Say that you are gathered around the breakfast table with family, hands joined in prayer, and the door comes crashing open and then an army of thugs come in, guns drawn, shoot the dog, and bedlam invades. The Lord will not take it kindly. Each cop, the superior officer, the Chief of Police, the Town, the Judge, the Prosecutor, the staff of all, will be candidates for places in Hell. All should be shot by a human. We can not leave this up to Saint Peter to remedy. If you know that they are coming or think so, then set up a spring loaded shotgun at the inside of the front door.

  7. A no-knock search for marijuana plants? Why? We’re the plants going to hide? Might all the plants be flushed or destroyed in the additional seconds required by a knock-and-enter search?

    Because we’ve made the error of ever listening to conservatives, we allow legal guns everywhere for everyone (this is Rick Perry’s Texas, no less), stand-your-grounds laws, and overly militarized police. What could go wrong? We’ve seen many instances where cops have killed or maimed adults, children (think stun-grenade tossed into a baby’s crib recently) and animals sometimes while invading the wrong house, all with impunity. One would think the gun rights nuts here would be applauding the guy protecting his “castle” from a home invasion instead of maligning “lefty sops who feed at this trough”. This is totally a result of failed conservative policies—as are most of the failures in this country.

  8. They ARE applauding the guy protecting his castle. As is JT here in the article.
    An overmilitarized police at least needs an overmilitarized populace, at least then they might think twice about throwing grenades into babies’ cribs.

  9. A very strong jury to stand up to the prosecutor. We the people have power, we just rarely use it. We have the power as jurists to not convict and we have the power when we vote. It is long past time we use this power.

  10. Yep, desiring the enforcement of Constituional rights makes me a “lefty sop”. I think I will buy a badge–LEFTY SOP FOR THE CONTITUTION!
    What a ridiculous comment.

    Enforcing Constituional protections and requiring police to follow the requirements for a warrant and stop lying is the proper thing to do. The continued refusal of both police departments and judges to respect the constitution usually results in civilian deaths and injuries perhaps this sad tragedy will make police departments rethink their behavior. Perhaps it will but I won’t hold my breath.

  11. This is one reason why cops are aligned w/ all the 2nd Amendment haters. They want to be able to be the only person armed. These natural consequences cases may help in getting their minds right! Please note this raid was about cannabis; many of these “no knocks” are predicated on something that should not be illegal.

    Now, unlike many here, I am not a cop hater. I probably know more law enforcement than anyone here except for maybe one or two. I know their culture. I know their mindset. But, I know there are many more good cops who function in a bad culture than there are bad ones.

  12. @GaryT

    I am from Texas. This is one of those events (like Trayvon) where you hate to see somebody get killed, but the dead guy put his own self in that position.

    At one of the links above, you learn that the police had gone to Magee ‘s house a few weeks earlier about him firing his guns too loudly, and Magee came to the door and there was no problem. But, some idiot here wanted to do a raid and show who was the biggest swinging d@ck, and KERBLAMMO —you got a dead cop.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  13. Gary, There was a local Madison TV news story on that baby. The mom is from Wi. and the family moved back here to get away from all the craziness. They had footage of the child. Scarred for life, but thankfully, doing well otherwise.

  14. @Rcampbell “A no-knock search for marijuana plants? Why? We’re the plants going to hide? Might all the plants be flushed or destroyed in the additional seconds required by a knock-and-enter search? ”

    That is a really good point. No-knock warrants are not allowed because serving warrants is dangerous work – regardless of what some are saying here.

    No-knock warrants are allowed to prevent destruction of evidence. But almost by definition, plants are not easy to destroy. It is just not very easy to get rid of the evidence of a plant.

    It would seem that judges and magistrates have an obligation to deny no-knock warrants when the contraband cannot be easily destroyed or removed as is the case with plants.

    BTW, there was a time when some were bragging that contraband could be recovered from sewer lines even after 15 or more flushes. I don’t know how true that is – but have you ever considered how long it takes to flush 15 times?

    Many no-Knock warrants unnecessarily endanger citizens with no benefit to society.

  15. Watch any video of police in action, and you see a good portion of them that have military style haircuts. They’ve started wearing “BDU” uniforms instead of regular uniforms like we all grew up with. Add all that together with the profit motive that police agencies have for drug raids, and you’ve got a bad situation.

    What’s especially damaging for community/police relations is that in many cases police don’t see themselves as part of the community. They see themselves as outside of the general part of society as some special force and persona. That’s why they call us civilians. Guess what officers, you are too for 16 hours a day.

    The no-knock warrant is indicative of a bigger problem in law enforcement, at least as I see it. The profit motive combined with free toys from the military. Cmon, everyone feels like a bad-as* when they can dress up in black, carry military weapons, and drive around in armored vehicles. Especially when so many of them are former military who now have the experiences in Iraq or Afghanistan to compare to when policing small town America. The second problem is a police culture that denigrates and demonizes anyone who is against “them”. It’s not just the criminals, that are viewed as sub-human. It’s everyone on the street who is a potential criminal. For every officer friendly I’ve encountered throughout my life ( my past life when I was photojournalist) I encountered double or more the hot heads that had a Cartman like mentality. Respect mah authoritah.

    I don’t know the answer to fixing this. THere’s an inherent danger in police work that can’t be ignored. But law enforcement doesn’t help itself by relying on no-knock warrants when common sense could prevent any SWAT raid in the first place. The tragedy at Waco could have been avoided if ATF had just grabbed Koresh on the street during his morning walk. All of these drug users and dealers need to get milk sometime, don’t they? Why the rush to use tactics developed for the most dangerous crimes when they could just wait for the guy to have his hands full with groceries?

  16. @bc

    Thx! I just always do it because some places I am just “Squeeky” and other places “Squeeky Fromm ” sooo I sign it so people will know which one I am, even though the other one spells her name differently.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  17. All engineers are conservative, by definition. I am an engineer, licensed by the State of Wisconsin. Therefore, I am, by definition a conservative.

    As a conservative, I seek to conserve the progress of human biological and social development, which, to me, as a conservative, is synonymous with progress. Because I am a conservative who seeks to conserve progress, I am, by definition, a progressive.

    Therefore, I am a conservative progressive? Or, am I a progressive conservative? Either way, I seek to do my part in conserving human personal and social progress.

    There has been, and continues to be, progress in the conservative field of social psychology; for methinks that a principle focus of social psychology is conserving human society, through understanding it well enough to conserve its truths and to progress away from its falsehoods.

    While there are those who confuse the “correspondence bias” with the “fundamental attribution error” (perhaps even including Lee Ross, who came up with the label, “fundamental attribution error”), I observe the correspondence bias to be, in some particulars, starkly different from the correspondence bias.

    In my work, that of theoretical biology and applied theoretical biology, both done within the realm of bioengineering as professional (state-licensed) engineering, I have found it apparently essential to find the dividing boundary between what is truthfully attributed to situational factors and what is truthfully attributed to dispositional factors.

    The traditional notion of the boundary between what is situational and what is dispositional is one of locus of control; that which is situational is, by definition, outside a person’s locus of control, whereas that which is, by definition, dispositional is within a person’s locus of control.

    Alas. the limit boundary of a person’s actual locus of control is, also by definition, the limit boundary of a person’s truthful accountabiity. A person cannot truthfully be held accountable for that over which the person did not have actual control; being held (legally held?) accountable for that which was not within a person’s actual locus of control is, at the least, serious to disastrous abuse.

    For those not well-versed in locus of control issues, there are two books in my professional library, the reading of a copy of each book might greatly help not-well-versed folks gain some useful social psychology competence.

    The more recent book is, Attribution and Social INteraction: The Legacy of Edward E. Jones, John M. Darley & Joel Cooper, eds., American Psychological Association, 1998. The first chapter of this book, Daniel T. Gilbert, Speeding with Ned: A Personal View of the Correspondence Bias, could be found in pdf form on the Internet the last time I checked.

    However, the Comment on Gilbert by Lee Ross is apparently available only in the book, and not on the Internet.

    The older book is Attribution Theory: Applications to Achievement, Mental Health, and Interpersonal Conflict, Sandra Graham & Valerie S. Folkes, eds., Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 1990. This book may usefully help illumine police and public interaction in terms of its subtitle; particularly regarding mental health and interpersonal conflict.

    Further enlightenment may be achieved through reading and studying Gordon W. Allport, The Nature of Prejudice, Addison-Wesley, 1954; especially if one is capable of the temerity to replace supposed racial social divisions with social authoritarian divisions and apply the principles of Allport’s work on prejudice to prejudice by police against the public and prejudice by the public against police.

    Allport, pages 38-46 has subheadings of “Social Distance,” “The Group-Norm Theory of Prejudice,” “Can there Be an In-group without an Out-group?” and, “Can Humanity Constitute an In-group?” What Allport wrote, as found on those pages, may help make sense of the enigma of law and law enforcement as related to “Humanity” with respect to what makes for the in-group functionality and what makes for the out-group functionality.

    With the police, anyone may be a perp and an out-group member; unlike skin color, there may be no observable evidence as to whether a prospective perp is, or is not, an in-group member or an out-group member. Likewise, for the public, there is no way in advance of an incident for a member of the public to accurately a police officer as in-group or out-group.

    While it may be simple to hurl epithets, I find scant evidence that so doing is of much, if any, useful help, except as it becomes accurately understood that hurling epithets may be of the essence of the police-public/public-police malaise.

  18. “Now, unlike many here, I am not a cop hater.” -Nick, the dick

    Really? “Cop haters” here? I don’t hate cops — I just hate bad behavior. And I especially hate it when they break the law.

    “I probably know more law enforcement than anyone here except for maybe one or two. I know their culture. I know their mindset.” -Nick, the dick

    Ah, yes, Nick: — the all-knowing.

    “But, I know there are many more good cops who function in a bad culture than there are bad ones.” – Nick, the dick

    The good ones need to start fixing the system, I’d say, instead of going along with the program.

  19. Our procedure was to announce “Sheriff’s Office, Search Warrant !” three times and then go in if nobody immediately came forward to open the door. (That is if it was more than just a standard search warrant)

    Just barging in there is risky

  20. anon, I take you @ your word that you are not a cop hater. That said, there are some here. Regarding changing the culture. Do you have any idea how difficult that is? Many have tried and been vilified or just given up and gone on to other careers. I am not all knowing but I do know a lot. I’ve been around.

  21. Not often a cop killer goes free. It appears, “drugs, schmugs.”

    And this gem from warspite, “I also hope the lefty sops who feed at this trough….”

    Why so needlessly, partisanly divisive? What purpose does this serve? It does not appear in any way “cute” or even informed. Just… spew… who is it designed to “convince?” Or are we just having a bad day?

  22. JT: In your topic headline. “Texas jury…” If it is a Grand Jury then that is a far cry from a Trial Jury. The single word jury means trial jury. A trial jury is picked by the two sides to a criminal jury trial. A Grand Jury is picked by the authorities that be. So a Grand Jury refusing to indict is better for the civil rights side of the aisle than a Trial Jury that has acquitted or hung up.

  23. You don’t have to be a “cop hater” to see that they are out of control and that the people who are supposed to be exercising oversight just don’t care.

  24. Nick:
    Despite my experience with cops in general, both at being their victim and at being one of their administrators, I am not a cop hater either, but I believe such power attracts and brings out the worst in people who have the propensity to lord over others, just because they can.
    It is more important to rein in their powers, than to respect and encourage them.
    Like a casino, they don’t have to cheat to win.

  25. By definition my ass.
    I am an engineer and physicist, and that runs through my soul, but I am not a conservative.
    If anything, engineers would naturally be libertarians, not conservative.

  26. Perhaps if America could see her way to NOT enabling every Tom, Dick, and Harry to have so many guns (legal or un), the police might feel less need for so many ‘no knock’ raids. ( I know, silly dreamer on a Monday.)

  27. @GaryT

    No. But thank you for providing a “real time ” example of why I need to sign my post!

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    (PS : I did play act the Princess Lynette role once after one of my stupid boyfriends read some stupid book about Sleeping Beauty??? I think I might be a natural, but I don ‘t want to talk about that.)

  28. If I remember correctly, and invoking Godwin’s law, the first thing Nazis did was to disarm the population.
    I don’t recall them feeling any less need to carry guns.
    That applies to all other despotic nations as well.
    Yes, a silly dream, on a Monday.

  29. Texas and the rural drug problems are real. The fallacy in the no knock warrants are real as well. They should only be used sparingly and if it’s for growing plants or other product manufacture maybe they should consider doing the raids late evening or morning. Users will be stoned or passed out by that time.

    Conducting raids in the early AM is just asking for a response like this. I am surprised that the matter was NO BILLED.

  30. Nick Spinelli: “But, I know there are many more good cops who function in a bad culture than there are bad ones.”

    Isn’t it then incumbent on the ‘good’ to change the culture of the ‘bad’? Or is the culture of the ‘bad’ so all pervasive that for all intents and purposes there ARE no ‘good’?

  31. A petite jury or trial jury is selected from the voting rolls and usually by lot. A Grand Jury is appointed the the authorities.

  32. It appears that the plants were not the problem:
    “In this case, the police were after alleged marijuana plants that an informant said he was growing. The warrant then added a claim of possible “illegal guns.” The police found the marijuana but all of his guns were legal.”
    …so, they got the “no knock” warrant because of the added claim of possible illegal guns.
    Illegal guns…
    In this case, there appears to be no difference between legal or illegal guns.

  33. Warspite, maybe the officer shouldn’t have asked for a no-knock warrant, and maybe this will teach officers not to ask for them so often. The guy had pot plants. He couldn’t have flushed those. All the officer had to do was knock on the door, show the warrant and conduct his search and he’d still be alive today. Our police are way too militarized now with such an “us against them” mentality. It’s no wonder that more of them get shot these days.

    Pot ought to be legal anyway. We aren’t stopping a darned thing with our laws. All we’re doing is wasting a fortune and causing even more problems than we caused with our failed experiment with alcohol prohibition. It’s too popular to ban with any success and we’re doing more harm than good trying. Most who want to smoke it are already doing so. Why put officers at risk over it? Why go knocking down doors and shooting dogs and sometimes innocent people over it? Why have the millions who smoke marijuana buy it from the black market where they will be offered far worse drugs?

    I’m guessing you’re a cop or prosecutor. Maybe you should lay off the people involved with pot. It’s not even worth it anymore. All the polls in the last few years are showing that a majority of Americans want to be legalized and that support just keeps on growing. I think of that every time I plead somebody to prison on a pot charge. This officer’s family are going to think of that from now on as they see more states legalize and see the feds finally come around and legalize at the federal level, which will happen. It is inevitable. Why do people have to die over this? Why do we have to waste prison beds? Make arrests when you see it, or when it’s part of another bust, but otherwise don’t go out of your way looking for it. Don’t go kicking down doors for it.

  34. The focus of most comments here are on some of the symptoms rather than the underlying problem. Thus the folk(s) who try to divide us with labels such as “cop haters” and cop lovers?,

    The problem and what should be addressed, imo, is why the most dangerous drugs are legal …without a prescription needed, those that DO require a prescription that can only be filled by a legal dealer @ CVS, and those drugs which are presently illegal via laws which few people here can defend with a rational argument and not merely ad hominens.

  35. What’s wrong with being a cop hater?

    It seems the goal of many cops is to inspire hatred. It also seems that politicians should expect their subjects to hate the enforcers of their edicts.

  36. “Earlier this month, District Attorney Julie Renken presented the case against Magee to a grand jury. “I made a very thorough presentation on Texas law on cap murder and Texas self defense law,” Renken told me in a phone interview” a quote from the WaPo article sited in this post.

    As a criminal defense attorney I find this to be even more fascinating than the grand jury’s refusal to issue an indictment. The very notion that a prosecutor would instruct or even allude to the possible existence of an affirmative defense before a grand jury is something I’ve never heard of.

  37. No, Gary T, you do not remember correctly. In 1919, Weimar Germany enacted extremely strict gun control policies. They actually were loosed in the 1930s.

  38. Rest in peace Adam.

    Poignant post professor.

    There was indeed a judge who signed the warrant.

    Just going through the motions will not do.

    The fatalities at the intersection of Enforcement Street and Peace Keeping Avenue behind and in front of the badge are becoming all to common.

    Let’s hope the ones who sign the warrants are paying attention and start asking a few more questions.

  39. Although…….. If he hadn’t been growing the drugs in the first place there would have been no need of a warrant.
    The weapons may have been legally purchased but having them in posseson while growing drugs is a federal crime.

  40. I had a friend in the Mafia who owned a two family flat which he used for business purposes. Just inside the front door he cut a six ft by six foot hole in the floor and put a trap door on it. In the basement there was a huge tangle of barbed wire. He set it up so that if you stepped on the trap door without pushing a button first, then the door dropped you down onto the barbed wire. But wait, it gets better. When someone fell on the wire it tripped another switch which cause a firehose noozle to open up and flood the basement. The windows were bricked up and there was no door to escape. We heard that he got one cop that way and had the house burned to the ground to hide the evidence that same night. It was insured. This was many years ago in a prior incarnation when I was a human living in Kansas City. It is a good way to deal with no knock cops.

  41. The people can take a win on this one! I suppose if I hated all humanity and wanted to see more death & destruction from war and no-knock raids, I’d call myself WarSpite too! (the first comment)

  42. Since when has any local empire, (county) paid much attention to what the SC has ruled unless it fits there agenda?
    Sounds to me like the black robbed devil and prosecutor’s powers where not in direct proportion to the jury’s ignorance for once. I commend the jury for the truth.
    It is too bad and tragic not to mention the insanity that one young man was shot and killed over a few plants, but it has been quoted once before, “It is sad that many will perish believing the BIG lie, but tragic that many have and will continue to do so, defending the BIG lie. “ SA

    This SWAT madness has got to stop. These corporate thugs with a gun, badge and 007 license have become the most dangerous element in our society today and all by design. It is also just about impossible to show someone the truth when their pay check depends on them not knowing the truth.

    Allow me to close with one more quote,
    “There exists a law, not written down anywhere, but inborn in our hearts, a law which comes to us not by training or custom or reading, a law which has come to us not from theory but from practice, not by instruction but by natural intuition. I refer to the law which lays down that, if our lives are endangered by plots or violence or armed robbers or enemies, any and every method of protecting ourselves is morally right.””
    Marcus Tullius Cicero

  43. It appears that no-knock warrants increase the likelihood of panic, violent opposition, and injury to innocent bystanders and the cops themselves. The case of the toddler injured by the stun grenade still haunts me. Does anyone know what became of the child?

    Any reasonable person would feel intense alarm if someone burst into his home, and would defend himself. People who would ordinarily never fight with a police office would be in the middle of a violent self defense struggle before he even realized it was the police.

  44. I think they should start keeping data on the outcomes of no-knock warrants – how often cops, innocent bystanders, wrong house, suspects, dogs, etc are hurt.

    I suspect that no-knock warrants actually increase the danger to all involved, but if we had hard data, it would make it easy to make the case to reduce no-knocks.

  45. What a terrible but 100% preventable tragedy.

    Why couldn’t the police simply have knocked on the door?

    What type of supposedly highly trained personnel attempt to breach an unknown target with no prior surveillance of the target?

    Thankfully the grand jury refused to destroy the life of Goedrich Magee.

  46. Retired from 42 years in law enforcement,a fifth level supervisor, it still amazes me that folks with two digit IQs are allowed to . plan and conduct raids which can only be classified as stupid, ignorant, malicious, brainless catastrophies.Most raids never need to be. There are myriad ways to “get the goods” on the Bad Guys without kicking down doors. The general public need not be made aware of those methodologies, lest the Bad Guys find means to nullify them. The householder, whatever his moral delinquencies, has the right to shoot airhead Keystone Cops who crash and trash without warning.. In the interests of political correctness law enforcement agencies recruit amoral, physically, intellectually and emotionally challenged persons who simply cannot function effectively in enforcement situations too difficult for them to resolve.The solution is to attract better people and to train them extensively.
    That means no more political correctness- it is absolutely incompatible with high quality law enforcement. LAPD is a classic example. Lowering the hiring standards makes for raids like this one.

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