First Amendment Experts Call For Lawsuit Based On The Exclusion Of Leading Media Outlets From Press Gaggle

sean_spicerI recently discussed an ethics complaint by law professors against presidential aide Kellyanne Conway that I viewed as facially political in character and lacking a substantive foundation. (Of course, this was before the “Couchgate” scandal) My reaction to a new proposed first amendment lawsuit by news media is little better. Democratic U.S. Rep. Carolyn Maloney and first amendment advocated joined in condemning the Trump Administration’s exclusion of some new organizations from a White House press briefing. I share their view that the exclusion was wrong and, with the recent attacks on the media by President Trump, contradict our core values as a nation that values the freedom of the press. However, I do not see a credible constitutional claim brought under the threatened lawsuit.

Civil liberties lawyer Norman Siegel, the former leader of the New York Civil Liberties Union, called for the lawsuit over what he called censorship when the Trump Administration barred news organizations like CNN, New York Times, and Politico from a “gaggle” or informal press briefing. It was widely viewed as retaliation against news organizations that have been reporting on mishaps and leaks from the Administration. White House spokesperson is quoted as saying “we’re going to aggressively push back . . . We’re just not going to sit back and let, you know, false narratives, false stories, inaccurate facts get out there.”

The experts cited Sherrill v. Knight, a D.C. Circuit opinion from 1977 where a Nation reporter was denied a press pass. The court found a violation of the first amendment after the Secret Service failed to give proper notice or foundation for the decision. However, the court did not articulate a standard.

We agree with the District Court that both first and fifth amendment concerns are heavily implicated in this case. We conclude, however, that neither of these concerns requires the articulation of detailed criteria upon which the granting or denial of White House press passes is to be based. We further conclude that notice, opportunity to rebut, and a written decision are required because the denial of a pass potentially infringes upon first amendment guarantees. Such impairment of this interest cannot be permitted to occur in the absence of adequate procedural due process.

This is not a denial of a press pass but rather the denial to a single gaggle. More importantly, the gaggle had a pool reporter so these media outlets were not prevented from knowing what was said. The gaggle was held in Spicer’s office. He is not the first to hand pick reporters for informal meetings. I would be surprised if any federal court would rule that even informal meetings must include invitations to all media. Indeed, it is hard to see who such a rule could be accommodated. Given the pool reporter, I would expect most federal courts to reject the claim. Moreover, it could create some truly dreadful law for journalists.

81 thoughts on “First Amendment Experts Call For Lawsuit Based On The Exclusion Of Leading Media Outlets From Press Gaggle”

  1. Where was CNN when Dick Cheney was having private meetings at the White House?

  2. My 401k under bush went down 95% sticks that I paid 40 a share fell to being delisted to reorganization to the pink market sheets to .003 cents per share. This included bank and domestic oil.

    Today, I invest not only in the US but the Euronext and Deutschland Borse. I will not suffer a loss like I did again.

  3. Free Press. How much does the NY Times cost on Sunday? That ain’t free so they are not protected.

  4. I am happy your 401k has done well. You have no one to think but Obama, he inherited a market at about 7,000 and when he left office in 2017 it was at 19,700. Yesterday it closed at a loss to 20,800. I suppose you only invested in short terms to give you such satisfaction with the market. In 2015 I bought 1000 share of a tech stock for 1.61 today its trading at 15.90.

  5. My 401K has done superbly since November! There is a “YUUUGELY” under reported story by the MSM. Imagine the stock market boom reporting if Lady Macbeth had won.

  6. mespo727272,

    In times of war, the expectations and realities are different. Now, if you want to classify how the news in general has been treated for reporting the real news, I guess you can say that “Branch Executive” has declared a war.

    1. websterisback:
      The folks in Istanbul, Brussels, Paris, London, San Bernardino, Orlando, Boston, Little Rock, Ft. Hood and Columbus along with most every city in the Mideast might disagree with you since we are smack in the middle of an Islamic Civil War.

      1. And how does that affect the Presses?

        I agree responsible news is a must. However, you can’t pick and choose what you consider Fake news and use the rest to bolster your claim. Branch Executive has done exactly that.

        You forgot “Sweden the worst terrorist attack in years and Bowling Green.”

        Interesting I was in Paris, Rome, Brussels, Egypt and Sweden last year.

        I did not feel in harms way.

        Lastly you forget, the failed policies of GWB created the conditions for the Islamic States. They used the money that we gave them and weapons against US.

        1. Like most Leftists, they’ve fallen in love with our enemies. To counter it, you use the marketplace on their corporate masters and paint them for the un-American globalists they so obviously are. Exactly Trump’s strategy which is working since they enjoy a boastful 33 1/3% confidence rate.

  7. I remember a young lawyer that sued the government over classified documents relating to Area 51. If I recall correctly his office was shutter with a billet saying that this Area Was Secured by the DoD. The only one allowed into the young Turley’s office was the lawyer himself.

    I suppose, you were just exercising your rights of your clients. It affected you personally.

    Put yourself into the shoes of the reporters, they were excluded because the Executive Branch does not like what is reported. Too bad, I believe they have a right to be there. Just as I think you had a right to take on the US DoD.

    It is my estimation that once people achieve a certain notoriety and/or money, they seem to forget where they came from.

    1. Under your theory, Tokyo Rose has a right to a place at the table. Some in the Media are just as big of a propagandist as Iva Toguri.

    2. It helps to know what the fight is actually about and it isn’t, freedom of the press. It’s freedom of large financial interests to influence foreign policy.

      But whether on the superficial level of Press rights or the more nitty gritty level of the establishment trying to box Trump in to a policy of regime change in Russia, Trump is going to have a very hard time winning this battle without major sacrifice.

  8. How many DNC reporters should be allowed into the gaggle anyway? The fact they retained their press passes and were provided the information from the pool reporter, what legitimate 1st amendment claim do they have?

      1. mespo – their little feelers were hurt, however emotional damage is not enough for a lawsuit in itself.

  9. While I agree with Professor Turley’s summary and conclusions, I think the background or underlying story here needs to be called out. The MSM, particularly but not exclusively the outlets Trump excluded, are waging a war on the Trump administration in which they want, by use of propaganda, to direct and constrain permissible foreign policy with Russia in the direction of confrontation and heightened tension. Anything outside of the “permissible” zone of attitude toward Russia and Putin is to be branded, Joe McCarthy style, as un American and boarding on treason. The ultimate benefactor of such a dangerous “cold war” like foreign policy with the second greatest Nuclear power on earth is first off the military industrial complex, but subsequently that part of the global financial sector, particularly banks and other high level investors, who want to replace Putin with a more neoliberal Western friendly leader willing to sell state assets to American and American friendly investment firms as was the case shortly after the breakup of the U.S.S.R. (which incidentally almost bankrupted Russia). While this effort was sparked off by team Hillary and the DNC as a means of obfuscating their naked failure to buy and bulldoze an election, it would not have lasted long in the news cycles unless it had corresponded to a parallel effort by far larger concerns that had been brewing for some time. Note that Trump is not likely to be opposed to such advantageous commercial relations with Russia (a form of economic strip mining as has gone on in Greece, Spain and Ireland), but he does not believe they can only be brought about by Putin’s replacement and it seems likely – based upon Trump’s own remarks – he is also aware of just how existentially dangerous such a Cold/Hot War provoking gambit regime change as a means of effecting such a plan would be.

    Back to the press, Trump is almost under siege. Missteps are either magnified literally beyond reason, or invented out of whole cloth. And it’s not letting up. There is speculation that an impeachment process effort is underway at one extreme and at the other, at the minimum, an effort to ham string the administration’s every move much like the Obama administration was by Republican congressional “obstructionism.” And in Trump’s case, the MSM, at present, is the leading edge of it.

    Trump and his advisers are aware of this and Trump himself has made half hearted attempts in his comments and tweets to point out to the public the more superficial Hillary like aspects of it. I imagine the exclusion of certain main stream media outlets to a low-key press briefing is in part frustration and in part a sort of shot across the bow to the media in general to let up.

    This does not have an easy resolution. It is not going away. In opposition to Trump, and it is not at all simply limited to Democrats (or as the coin of the realm on this site goes, AOIDL, or dog whistle the left for short), are some of the most powerful elements of global capitalism on the earth and, of course, the press quite literally belongs to them and does their bidding. I think this is a case where Trump’s own perceived self interests will get in his way since he wants to use the Press, not to mention the intelligence agencies and the whole bipartisan tradition of accidentally-on-purpose leaks, for his own ends as well.

    Glen Greenwald has an excellent article in the Intercept, regarding a New Yorker article, that digs into the on going Russian Hacking fiasco and just how little has been proven in terms of Russian hacking at all, never mind explicit and/or improper communications between campaign Trump and Putin.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/02/28/the-new-yorkers-big-cover-story-reveals-five-uncomfortable-truths-about-u-s-and-russia/

    1. While this effort was sparked off by team Hillary … ->

      While this effort to influence foreign policy was sparked off by team Hillary and the DNC as a means of obfuscating their naked failure to buy and bulldoze an election, it would not have lasted long in the news cycles unless it had corresponded to a parallel effort by far larger concerns that had been brewing for some time.

    2. BB,

      This is a very nuanced analysis. There seem to be two coups going on in the US. The one is exactly as you outlined above. Hillobamaco and handlers are in that group.

      The other coup is being simultaneously launched by Trump’s handlers. I wonder if these coups are like the political parties-one party two different names–one coup–two different LOOKING groups? The reason I wonder about this is because both coup groups seem to have one aim, the complete overturning of our Constitutional rights and the installation of an open dictatorship.

      This is what worries me about refusing to let in groups of the press that Trump doesn’t approve of. JT makes a persuasive case in this particular instance. It’s the bigger picture within which this particular case takes place that gives me real pause.

      That bigger picture includes what just happened during the destruction of the Standing Rock village of water protectors. In this case, police took MSM reporters and put them safely behind police lines. The smaller, independent press was deliberately targeted for beatings and arrest by police. The police were brutal. They knew exactly who they were going for and they did exactly what they were told to do–destroy the independent media. That’s Trump’s orders, not just the governors. This was a coordinated tactic by federal, state and local law enforcement. This is Trump’s coup and his “liberty” followers should be out, in mass protest themselves over this deliberate, egregious attack on our Constitution. Yet most of them cheer it on.

      The two coups (possibly just one with two names) are both destroying our first amendment rights. Because of this, although I see your point and JT’s as well, I feel Trump’s move is bad news.

      1. Jill, so much is going on at once that is indeed almost impossible to get at the individual strands, never mind figure out how they each fit in the bigger picture.

        You are absolutely correct that Trump’s effort to muzzle the press (in both this instance as well as the Standing Rock instance) are insidious and dangerous. What many on this site happily miss, is that like Obama, Trump is setting precedents that will not be easy to undue. The jackals that would feed on the press they don’t like are mirrored by those just waiting for the pendulum to swing yet again (as it will).

        You have also heard, no doubt, about how protesters at Trump’s inauguration may face up to 10 years in prison and 25K fines. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4144360/Anti-Trump-protesters-face-10-years-prison.html While this is not the media, it does go right to the heart of freedom of speech and may be equally as chilling should such draconian punishment be applied.

        But in this particular case, the media Trump has signaled out to exclude from a press briefing is part and parcel of the establishment and as such has considerably more fire power than Trump at it’s disposal. If Trump intends to broad side the Press, this is the wrong way to go about it.

        BTW, there is a good article at Counterpunch arguing that Trump’s interest in Russia has nothing to do with reducing tensions, but everything to do with enlisting Russia’s help in regime change in Iran. I’m skeptical, particularly that such would be a sole motive, but it’s a good read and fairly short. http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/01/from-kissingers-playbook-flynn-is-gone-his-russia-policy-lives-on/

        1. BB,

          Thanks for those links.

          I’m really not sure if the “anti-Trump press” is really anti Trump. He just increased our military budget by an ungodly amount, the last thing this nation needs. He’s had CBP asking passengers for papers on domestic flights, he’s aggressive towards other nations just as Obama was, he is further unleashing bankers to ruin our economy, etc. I’m not certain what’s not for the oligarchy to like. It’s what makes me wonder if we’re seeing the newest version of good press cop/bad press cop.

          You’re correct. People never seem to understand that as they grant and cheer along unlawful powers because it’s for “their” side, those powers will eventually pass to their enemy. This is really short sighted and unethical behavior. We all need to be on the side of our Constitution and ordinary people getting ruined by the oligarchy.

          1. I’m really not sure if the “anti-Trump press” is really anti Trump.”

            The irony. It might be more accurate, however, to say one isn’t sure their interests don’t align almost exactly, rather than that they actually support each other. You know the familiar expression, They are in violent agreement.

            There is no doubt that Trump is saying to the MIC, “Look guys, I’m throwing you a ton of cash – I’m on your side for heavens sake.” That doesn’t mean the Military Industrial Complex or the Banks see it that way. From their pov, Trump is at best a loose cannon that can not be counted on or -most importantly- controlled. Banks and financial firms are horrified, for instance, that Trump isn’t utterly subservient to the neoliberal trade deals -TPP, etc. – that they and their corporate partners have spent years on in secret. I don’t think Trump can win this just as I don’t think he can win over the MIC simply by wads of cash. The establishment wants toe the line obediance, Obama/Bush/Clinton style , not flamboyant, paint stripping, do-it-yourself promoters.

            1. BB,

              I think he is subservient. He dropped the TPP but has left TISA, a much more dangerous “trade” agreement in place. His cabinet is GS all the way. He’s strengthening the oligarchy in every way and stripping out our Constitutional rights faster than even Obama (and he was really fast!).

              You may be right (and I hope you are because that leaves a small opening for the rest of us) but I have the worst feeling we are watching good cop/bad cop.

              1. Yes, the Trade In Service Agreement. Very nasty stuff. Same or worse ISDS (Investor-State Dispute Settlement) provisions.

              2. Also, to my knowledge, Trump has taken no position on TISA. If you know differently, I’d love to hear about it as it’s buried under all this other stuff.

                1. This is what I found so far: “President Trump has made no statement on TiSA or whether he plans to continue negotiations or pull out of what sounds like a “done” deal. However, Trump’s inclination to reduce regulations on financial services may give TiSA a favorable prognosis.”

                  https://ivn.us/2017/01/25/wikileaks-blows-whistle-bye-bye-tpp-hello-tisa/

                  I thought I had seen something more definitive but can’t find it at this time. I could be misremembering what I read! Thanks for the info you provided in your posts!!

              3. His cabinet is GS all the way. He’s strengthening the oligarchy in every way and stripping out our Constitutional rights faster than even Obama (and he was really fast!

                Agree.

            2. If there is a silver lining, it is that Trump will get a lot of media attention (though as you point out – complete black outs in many important areas). If only Obama had gotten as much.

              1. BB,

                Yes, I wish that had been true. Obama got a free pass on everything. That has been an absolute disaster and accounts for why so many Democrats still believe he was/is Obama Jesus and why so many Republicans and Democrats think he was a socialist instead of the corporate shill he actually was (is)!

                Wikileaks had some info which implied Trump was moving ahead on TISA. I will try to find that and post it here later.

                1. Thanks. There is also the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP). I’ll look around as well.

                  1. Hmm, looks like you are right, Vijay Prashad on Alternet,

                    If Trump were serious about an exit from “globalization” he would have simultaneously made noises about a host of other [than TPP] trade deals – Trade in Services Agreement (TISA) and the U.S.-China Bilateral Investment Treaty. But he did not. Nor did he fire the 500 U.S. trade advisers, who, as Lori Wallach of Public Citizen wrote, represent corporate interests in the framing of such trade agreements. He does not want to rock the globalization boat. That is not his real interest. [emphasis mine]

                    http://www.alternet.org/economy/trump-leaves-tpp

                2. While I imagine you are right, see link in comment below, I can find nothing Trump said publicly about TiSA.

                  https://ivn.us/2017/01/25/wikileaks-blows-whistle-bye-bye-tpp-hello-tisa/

                  President Trump has made no statement on TiSA or whether he plans to continue negotiations or pull out of what sounds like a “done” deal. However, Trump’s inclination to reduce regulations on financial services may give TiSA a favorable prognosis.

      2. What aspect of the First Amendment have you lost? Pool reporters and other outlets are abundant. Keeping a few miscreants out should improve the process not hinder it.

        1. People in power are choosing who is the press and who is not. This is not happening here but it is happening elsewhere. When the powerful choose what you may hear, they are choosing what you will think and know. That is a tremendous loss.

          The idea of a rotating press pool mentioned in an earlier post would be one solution. It speaks volumes that Trump didn’t choose that route.

          1. Jill:
            How does excluding propagandists from one gaggle constitute “People in power are choosing who is the press and who is not”? Rank hyperbole! By the way, head CNN propagandist Tapper was at the WH the next day for breakfast. Bad Trump, Bad!

            1. mespo,

              Who decides what is propaganda?

              I happen to agree with you and Trump that CNN etc. have engaged in egregious propaganda. I also said I agree with JT’s analysis in this case. I also have reservations because of the big picture which I outlined. I wish you would read more carefully before you accuse me of saying things I didn’t!

              As to hyperbole, When the independent media is targeted for beatings and arrest by federal, state and local law enforcement while the MSM reporters are shuttled to safety, that’s a very extreme use of power against a free press. That’s happening all the time now. You may not have heard of it, in part due to only reading larger news outlets who won’t cover this, but it is happening.

    3. Read the editorials of Fox News and the Washington Times and your arguments about DDT being singled out dissolve in the putrid slime that can there be found. Fox News, The Washington Times, and other right wing rags rarely if ever print all the news, almost always paint their people with glowing praise, and publish editorials worthy only of the ilk found on blogs such as these. Blogs such as these and the comment sections of newspapers are the places for the smears editorialized in newspapers. So, if it goes on on both sides and DDT refuses one side, that is freedom of what?

      1. I’m not saying this to be overly critical, but I think you tend to see things as always belonging to two groups, Republicans and Democrats, and one of them must – in your view – be good or at least better in a given context. Perhaps I’m missing something – (wouldn’t be unusual for me).

        What I think we have here, speaking very broadly, are two players (Trump and the media), neither of which can legitimately claim unalloyed moral high ground, who are both going after each other on a fairly superficial level (even though the ostensible issue -freedom f the press- is very important in itself) while underlying forces are waging a completely different battle in which freedom of the press is but a chip.

  10. At the end of the day, after all the legal self gratification, right wing posturing, and atta boy Donnie, it comes down to an ongoing tantrum by DDT the President of these here United States. What’s railed against by DDT is often times embraced when he likes or dislikes whatever it is. It has been one long stream of lies, hypocrisy, and incompetence. Last night’s speech was nothing more than a speech. The judiciary reigned this maniac and his mob in. Let’s hope Republicans do the same. The US has a military larger than all others combined. The military should be cut 10% and at the same time refined and adapted to the criminals marauding, pillaging, murdering, and threatening. A dozen nuclear aircraft carriers mean next to nothing against vermin in the desert. Obama was successful supporting the locals with on site intelligence and surgical special forces. This has cost the least in treasure and American lives, exactly what was demanded by the American people after the miserable circus performed by the three stooges.

    Most of DDT’s ‘facts’ in his speech were untruths. He is still insecure. His reliance on monsters like Bannon illustrate that insecurity. The most insecure are the loudest huffers and puffers. Time will tell, but this is still America’s shame, a shame that is rivaling the Bush years.

    1. “Obama was successful supporting the locals with onsite intelligence and surgical special forces”.-Isaac
      Worked really well in Libya, where the “surgical air strikes” destroyed Gaddafi’s military and upended that country.
      When Obama “ended the war in Iraq” in 2011, he perceived no need to reinsert the American military until the “JV Team” overran a third of Iraq.
      The U.S. has been fortunate in minimizing causualties to our military in Iraq, but the entrenched “JV Team” was able to destabalize and terrorize an Iraq that had been largely secure ( due to the surge) when Obama took office.
      The “Mubarak must go” Arab Spring policy resulted in a Mubarak on Steroids now ruling Egypt.
      I don’t know what Trump’s use of the military for foreign policy objectives will look like a few years from now.
      If he’s successful, I’m sure that your “objective analysis” will credit Obama for that success.

  11. Not only was there a press reporter in the gaggle, but everyone, including the one’s left out, where given transcripts of the gaggle. So, I do not see a claim here, WE the NYT are BUTTHURT by being shut out of a press gaggle.

  12. First Amendment rights for the press. Well lets look at the original intent of the original Framers of the First Amendment. They were slave holders so they would not permit black people to attend. The “press” at that time pertained to printing press and thus print media. So today no TV, radio, internet outlets have a right to attend. Hold it in a big room and allow any member of the printing press type purveyors of news to attend.

  13. “I share their view that the exclusion was wrong and, with the recent attacks on the media by President Trump, contradict our core values as a nation that values the freedom of the press.”
    *******************
    I don’t. The Media has moved from objectively providing information to not so subtle advocacy of one particular ideology and one particular party. They have no censor hence they are a concentration of unchecked political power presenting a threat to the democratic process via propaganda and distortion by omission. Reigning them in a bit has a salutary effect on the the same governing process they hope to warp. As morning bimbo, Mika Brzezinski, said the Media’s Job Is To “Actually Control Exactly What People Think.” That’s a problem in need of a fix. Trump’s on the right track. There are no sacred cows in America least of all those who abuse a position of trust.

    1. We do not have real media we have a deranged media and respecting it is like respecting psychosis of a person rather than treating it !

      1. I wouldn’t say “deranged.” It’s more “will to power” kinda stuff. Like an exuberant puppy on a walk and hellbent to take you where they want, sometimes you’ve just got to rub their nose in it and show them who has the authority. Like every power center, they’re needed but only if they play by the rules.

      2. I agree. I’ve long thought that Alex Jones needed treatment, based on his penchant for paranoid conspiracy theories.

    2. Mespo wins by KO in the 9th round. Superb comment. I expressed a fear that the Dem Party is imploding and not providing the balance we need. The MSM, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Dem Party are trying, via propaganda, to whittle down the Republicans. However, regular folks who don’t eat and drink politics see this clearly. So, the lame and obvious propaganda is having the reverse effect. Without a LEGITIMATE press, we are all screwed!

    3. The media at one time used to have a set of professional protocols which contained the degree to which they would carry water for the Democratic Party and associated subcultures. At least since 1964 if not earlier, the bulk of those employed by the national press corps as writers or editors favored the Democratic Party in federal elections by enormous margins, and it’s a reasonable wager this has been true of newspaper reporters since the Depression. Prior to roughly 1955, publishers tended to put their own stamp on papers rather than allowing reporter culture to dominate coverage, and that generated more diversity of viewpoint than you saw in the subsequent era.

      Consider a figure such as Dorothy Kilgallen, ever a reporter chasing a story and a loyal Hearst girl. She was in her time among the most prominent figures in American journalism. Such a figure is not conceivable today.

      And, of course, you’ve had the decay of the economic position of news outlets. They haven’t got the staff even if they had the motivation, and their motivation has been selective for a while.

      About 15 years ago, Fred Barnes offered his view that the contrasting careers of those who’d been interns at Martin Peretz The New Republic during the period running from 1985 and 1995 and those who had been interns at Wm. Kristol’s The Weekly Standard during the period running from 1995 to 2000 suggested quite strongly that metropolitan newspaper editors of that era were going out of their way to not hire any reporter whose work history suggested he voted Republican. (N.B. working for a red haze outlet like Pacifica Radio or working for the gay press were not deal-breakers in that era. See the careers of Laurie Garrett of Newsday or Sarah Pettit of Newsweek. When Jonah Goldberg was hired to work at Brill’s Content he was stupefied to discover the place was a collecting pool of people who had worked for Mother Jones, another red haze outlet. When Nicholas Lemann was hired as Dean of Journalism at Columbia, who does he hire to supervise the Columbia Journalism Review but Victor Navasky, an antique who had published a humor magazine, worked as a book reviewer, and run a red haze opinion magazine, but had never worked as a reporter or newspaper editor).

  14. We have pseudo press that is a lie machine to bring down a president who is pro American

  15. Getting a news scoop is easy. Rupert Murdoch international cell phone hacking scandal. Digging for dirt the old fashioned way. Rupert news media makes Russian hacking look like child’s play.

    Rupert Murdoch’s News Group News¬papers has paid out more than £1m to settle legal cases that threatened to reveal evidence of his journalists’ repeated involvement in the use of criminal methods to get stories.

    The payments secured secrecy over out-of-court settlements in three cases that threatened to expose evidence of Murdoch journalists using private investigators who illegally hacked into the mobile phone messages of numerous public ¬figures as well as gaining unlawful access to confidential personal data, including tax records, social security files, bank statements and itemized phone bills. Cabinet ministers, MPs, actors and sports stars were all targets of the private investigators.

  16. How many media outlets have press crenditals. Is he supposed to cram all in? Fine lets do away with set in stone passes and give only rotation basis to the press room and gaggles. There are 49 seats in the the press room. Start rotating them and watch the real crying begin. Screw our so called Free Press. Nothing free about them.

  17. We might as well call these pussy protests. Unless there is a word beginning with ‘p’ purile maybe. In a short nut shell the complaint is the media who handpicked the pool reporters as was their custom left out a few inconsequential prima donnas as was their custom and because of that someone else should be punished. other than the media.

    Excellent we get more votes they are seen to be the enemy of the people by their own demonstration and their supporters as pud knockers.

    So to put the nonsensicsal to good use….

    I have never in my life seen a bigger pool of fools as the lame stream media. Unless it was the comic opera getups worn to the State of the Nation address.

    I skipped the senile ex something or another pre-speech recorded prattle. It was too much to waste any more time.

    There is no depths to great for these regressives and especially in a city that just outlawed assisted suicide.

    So once I asked my Dad why the greatest generation went to all that trouble and dead bodies to come home and vote the same thing into office. His answer was “we didn’t see it coming it was bit by by bit …incremental.” he asked what I thought and I said I’ll live to see the end of the nation barring a miracle.

    I was saying the same thing despite having seen it coming and working with others to stop it but privately on Nov 7th ultima. Damn me for having so little fatih by Nov 9th we were busy deciding how to take advantage of the miracle we saw the near Death Of A Nation and a re-birth.

    Now it’s just a matter of stomping or MaxForcing cockroaches

    Economically speaking we’ll have to take another hit with inflation but hopefully not too much devaluation but at least this time the money will be spent to good purpose. with something to show for it. and the added benefit of the reversal -at least I hope – of the obama tax increases in both business and private sector will produce a large enough effect to kick start the nation again. It all depends on controlling the moochers but for sure having to spend less on consumer goods and service using an increased value and sum of after tax wages is according to all my passed economy classes the right path way.

    Apparently the unions saw the light and went along with it….Now if we can just repeal Davis Bacon and Franck Dodd and while they are at it put all four of them in jail.

    Don’t bother if you skipped Econ 101- 104 it will be far beyond your intellectual capacity.

    My new excuse is dyslectic keyboard and the Midnight Hour!

    As for Couch Gate. Nice….for four children but it wouldn’t rate being printed for Foxes Pxxxy Parade Page. Sum? What’s the big deal?

  18. We might as well call these pussy protests. Unless there is a word beginning with ‘p’ purile maybe. In a short nut shell the complaint is the media who handpicked the pool reporters as was their custom left out a few inconsequential prima donnas as was their custom and because of that someone else should be punished. other than the media.

    Excellent we get more votes they are seen to be the enemy of the people by their own demonstration and their supporters as pud knockers.

    I have never in my life seen a bigger pool of fools as the lame stream media. Unless it was the comic opera getups worn to the State of the Nation address.

    I skipped the senile ex something or another pre-speech recorded prattle. It was too much to waste any more time.

    Thee is no depths and especially in a city that just outlawed assisted suicide.

    So once I asked my Dad why the greatest generation went to all that trouble and dead bodies to come home and vote the same thing into office. His answer was “we didn’t see it coming it was bit by by bit …incremental.” he asked what I thought and I said I’ll live to see the end of the nation barring a miracle.

    I was saying the same thing despite having seen it coming and working with others to stop it but privately on Nov 7th ultima. Damn me for having so little fatih by Nov 9th we were busy deciding how to take advantage of the miracle we saw the near Death Of A Nation and a re-birth.

    Now it’s just a matter of stomping or MaxForcing cockroaches

    Economically speaking we’ll have to take another hit with inflation but hopefully not too much devaluation but at least this time the money will be spent to good purpose. with something to show for it. and the added benefit of the reversal -at least I hope – of the obama tax increases in both business and private sector will produce a large enough effect to kick start the nation again. It all depends on controlling the moochers but for sure having to spend less on consumer goods and service using an increased value and sum of after tax wages is according to all my passed economy classes the right path way.

    Apparently the unions saw the light and went along with it….Now if they can just repeal Davis Bacon and Franck Dodd and while they are add it put all four of them in jail.

    Don’t bother if you skipped Econ 101- 104 it will be far beyond you intellectual capacity.

      1. Distilado de Guave. Tequila is for Gringo Tourists. But I should go back to the comic costumes. It wasn’t really a slam on Susan B and company from back when but on the DNC who were ‘where?’ when Hillary was defending her hubby’s record of victimizing women and attacking his victims makin Hillary herself a victimizer and the NOW for supporting both of them and turning their backs on their sisters? I didn’t see one womans’ rights advocate in all that sea of white. Here me talking at you Benita Pelosillynni. Hear me talking at you Debbie the bag lady Wasserman (isn’t that a test for VD?) .

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