Legal Kremlinology: Mueller’s Break With Manafort Leads To Frenzy Of Speculation Over The Russian Investigation

Below is my column in USA Today on the collapse of the cooperation agreement with Paul Manafort.  As predicted in the column, President Donald Trump picked up on the conflict to allege that Mueller is pressuring people to lie in order to make a case against him.  In the meantime, the White House confirmed that Manafort’s counsel has been conferring with the Trump legal team to tell them what Manafort was supplying and the questions being asked under the cooperation agreement. It is a highly unusual move and prosecutors usually bar such joint defense agreements or meetings from contenting for obvious reasons. It is not clear what Manafort was told but it is hard to believe that Mueller would be moronic enough to fail to make such a clear condition.

 

Here is the column:

A short three-page filing in federal court by Special Counsel Robert Mueller has again sent Washington into a frenzy. Mueller informed a court that former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was not cooperating and thus in violation of his plea deal.  Some experts immediately declared that the breakdown of cooperation was “good news for Trump” while others insisted that Mueller’s willingness to toss an important witness must mean that the case against Trump is overwhelming.

Welcome to November in Washington. With little information on the status of the investigation and Mueller reportedly preparing his final report, experts now regularly engage in a type of legal Kremlinology — akin to how experts once gauged inner workings of secretive Russian politburo based on who was standing closest to the Russian premier on Lenin’s tomb during the November military parade. Your distance from the premier often reflected if you were ascending or descending in power.

Manafort’s not the first on wrong side of Mueller

For two years, the plea deals with Mueller have offered the only indication of the direction of the Russian investigation with a smattering of indictments. When key figures appeared next to the special counsel in federal court, their cooperation would be immediately interpreted as a new and menacing stage for President Trump.

Manafort was treated as the most significant and ominous change for investigation. It was described as a “nightmare” and a hurricane hitting Washington. Democratic strategist and MSNBC contributor Scott Dworkin predicted President Trump would resign within two weeks of the plea.

At the time, I was less convinced that the move was as apocalyptic as portrayed. I wrote that the plea agreement could well fizzle out and, given Manafort’s history, that the operative language of the deal for Mueller should be “caveat emptor,” buyer beware. While Manafort lost much in taking a plea to 10 felony counts, he was already convicted in Virginia and facing an even more brutal trial in Washington D.C. Most importantly, it was not clear Manafort had real “deliverables” on Trump.

Mueller of course did not come away empty handed. Manafort has given him months of testimony and cooperation. Manafort also cannot back out of his guilty pleas, though the crimes are virtually all unrelated to the Trump campaign. Mueller will now seek sentencing above the agreed upon range — a sentence that could easily result in Manafort dying in prison unless he is pardoned by President Trump.

Manafort is not the first person to make news by standing with Mueller only to find himself on the wrong side of the special counsel. Former campaign adviser George Papadopoulos was one of the first cooperating witnesses for Mueller and the filing confirming his cooperation led to the Huffington Post to declare that it “establishes conclusively that the Trump campaign colluded with Russian representatives.” However, like Manafort, Mueller would insist that Papadopoulos was not cooperating and seek a higher sentence. Papadopoulos insisted that he would not lie and only said what he knew to be true. While Mueller sought the six-month maximum allowed by the deal. Papadopoulos received a mere 14 days in jail — a sentence that he began on Monday.

Other have also accused the special counsel of conditioning a plea on giving false testimony. Jerome Corsi, an associate of former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone, said last week that he turned down a plea deal because it required him to lie about knowledge of Russian collusion. He said “They want me to swear in front of a judge that I am a felon. I believe I did not lie to them. I handed over everything.”

Manafort did not give Mueller what he wanted

Manafort, Stone, Papadopoulos, Corsi and others could be used later by the Trump team to paint the Mueller investigation as coercive and biased. Manafort and Papadopoulos now occupy a bizarre category of hostile “cooperating” witnesses while Corsi and Stone insist that they would rather face jail than falsely testify for Mueller.

In the short-term, the Manafort dispute could yield a long-awaited insight into Mueller’s evidence and the direction of his investigation. Mueller has indicated that he would likely be filing details of Manafort’s “crimes and lies” after his plea in the days to come. While he could seek to file under seal, he will have to establish with a fair degree of certainty that Manafort intentionally lied to undo the plea deal. To do so, he will have to disclose other sources of evidence contradicting Manafort.

Mueller has only said that Manafort lied — not what he lied about. Mueller prosecuted Manafort on crimes wholly unrelated to the Trump campaign, though Manafort did work for shady Ukrainian figures with close Russian connections. If Russians were looking for a conduit for collusion, Manafort would have seemed a natural choice.

One intriguing possibility is a new account today that says that Manafort visited Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks who leaked the hacked emails of Democratic figures, in Ecuador’s London embassy in 2013, 2015 and in spring 2016. That last visit is particularly intriguing because it coincided with Manafort’s selection as Trump campaign chair. Ecuador’s Senain intelligence agency reportedly said that the logs include “Paul Manaford [sic]” and mentioned “Russians.”

At a minimum, Mueller’s filing suggests that, on the areas of factual conflict, Mueller had some degree of redundancy in his evidence to be able to show Manafort had lied. That makes sense in that no responsible prosecutor would build a case solely on such a highly unreliable witness as Manafort. Yet, Manafort has the broadest array of criminal acts and those contradictions could involve a host of different matters, including conflicts with intercepts on his shady foreign dealings in Ukraine.

So the figures have shifted again and pundits are struggling to find some cryptic Kremlinological meaning in this latest development. The most that can be said is that (like Papadopoulos and Corsi) Manafort did not give Mueller what he wanted — or at least all that he wanted. Indeed, what Mueller wanted from Manafort is the far more interesting question than what he got.

Jonathan Turley, a member of USA TODAY’s Board of Contributors, is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. Follow him on Twitter: @JonathanTurley

236 thoughts on “Legal Kremlinology: Mueller’s Break With Manafort Leads To Frenzy Of Speculation Over The Russian Investigation”

  1. Is anybody keeping up with Late4Yoga voluminous rambling postings so far today? Is it a form of therapy for her?

    1. Close your eyes. Breathe slowly but surely. Pretend that it’s not happening. Every piece of information is discreet and disconnected from every other piece of information. None of it fits together. There is no big picture. It’s all just a bunch of dots forming a hole in the sand that just so happens to be the same size and shape as the head of an Ostrich. Everything’s gonna be alright this morning. Friday December 7th, 2018, is still five days away. Relax. Peace out. Chill. Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock . . .

    2. Bill Martin,…
      I make it a point to set aside 2-3 hours every morning to read all of Diane’s columns, her links, and her lengthy cut and paste material.😄😂

  2. FBI agents gone rogue? Meuller overstepping his mandate? what is this?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-30/fbi-raids-home-clinton-foundation-uranium-one-whistleblower

    there are statutory protections for whistleblowers and when represented by counsel the FBI has certain duties of candor to the judge signing such a warrant

    this seems like a clear act of intimidation and oddly the intimidation is aimed at a scandal that implicates hillary

    is Trump in charge at all? Is whittaker asleep at the wheel? is there no oversight or control over the FBI by elected POTUS at all? Is this a mutiny now?

    The Meuller investigation with all its process crime prosecutions has destroyed by overuse one of the best investigative tools the FBI had. The false informating statute which is really really too broad in the first place. But it was a powerful tool now made blunt by overuse. Thanks Meuller. Now the FBI is moving towards whistleblower intimidation to protect a failed political candidate?

    At some point the peasants must organize and take up their pitchforks and descend on the rogues gallery with forceful criticisms and let them know an abused an angry population may rebel. At some point it better or it may all be too late.

    1. This FBI abuse of power is like a story line from House of Cards or Billions. Where is the outrage from ACLU?

  3. “The Justice Department’s inspector general was informed that the documents show that federal officials failed to investigate potential criminal activity regarding former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation and Rosatom, the Russian company that purchased Uranium One, a document reviewed by The Daily Caller News Foundation alleges.

    The delivered documents also show that then-FBI Director Robert Mueller failed to investigate allegations of criminal misconduct pertaining to Rosatom and to other Russian government entities attached to Uranium One, the document reviewed by TheDCNF alleges. Mueller is now the special counsel investigating whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia during the 2016 election.”

    Full report: https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/29/fbi-whistleblower-clinton-uranium/?utm_medium=email

  4. Wednesday big revelation and hysteria is that world-renowned developer Trump contemplated building in Russian capital up until 2016. Friday November 30, 2018 marks the end of Russian hoax with Trump successfully executing new NAFTA agreement. American people aint stupid. Today another 2016 campaign promise was kept which puts Trump one step closer to re-election while lefty loons still focused on malicious prosecution i.e. perjury traps and 2005 cold case tax fraud of fired Trump campaign manager. Lefty loons’ limping Russia hoax hysteria aint gonna survive holiday season much less even get through this weekend. R.I.P.

  5. Professor, I disagree very strongly that a Manafort pardon will help Trump.

    Manafort has already pleaded guilty, so his admissions can be used against him in state courts.

    This would not violate the rules of double jeopardy because he never went on trial for the crimes he admitted to in Washington DC.

  6. When Trump rallies in our area, many people wave Russian flags at him.

    He is giving Putin free reign in Syria and is allowing Ukraine to be bullied relentlessly.

    1. Apparently you are unaware of what Obama did and what Trump has done. I am not commenting whether or not I agree with either but your statement makes you sound unaware of world events. Start by looking at what happened in the Crimea and the red line.

      1. Prosecutorwhatever is just another example of a lefty loon who has lost his S as result of outcome of election and does not think but rather reacts from anti-Trump default setting.

        1. Bill I think this lefty loon figured an alias change was in order so we have to deal with the same silliness we dealt with before.

    2. Unlike Obama he gave them weapons to at least give them a fighting chance, and the story hasn’t ended yet iam sure more to come with respect of Ukraine

    1. You should pull the football away from Charlie Brown Kurtz at the last minute just like Lucy would.

  7. turns out an antifascist admitted that he waved a rifle at James Fields shortly before he ran his car down that street killing the lady. Poor James must have been scared for his life having had antifa attacking him all day and having rocks thrown at his car and it being hit with bats and all this and then a skinny bald dude with a wimpy voice waved a rifle at him. Wow. IF this goes before jury that’s plenty to establish a defense not only of subjective fear for his live but objective factual fear for his life and ya know it’s a real tragedy but will the jury ignore the law just to send a racist to jail or admit the reasonable doubt and let him off the hook?

    Not sure if this came before the jury but if it did that will really tip the scales

    https://youtu.be/Hz9mKPiDrv4

    the danger of course is that nation full of antifa will be emboldened to wave rifles at Republicans and then your “civil war” will start in earnest and Republicans may tend to panic like James Fields did. Canary in a coal mine!

    1. interestin video thanks to democracy now a good leftist mass media outfit that shows a lot of interesting content

      1. and we know the police failed to protect the first amendment right of the racist protesters to speak. and deliberately unleashed the mob on them before and after they cancelled the erstwhile rally

        a former AG Tim Heaphy investigated and criticized the police.
        ______________________________________
        An independent report that found serious police and government failures in responding to violence at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville this summer also accuses police agencies of putting up roadblocks to the investigation.

        Charlottesville: United Nations warns US over ‘alarming’ racism
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        The report, released on Friday by former US attorney Tim Heaphy, said Virginia state police refused to make commanders on the ground at the 12 August rally available for interviews or to provide most documents requested. It also said the Charlottesville police chief, Al Thomas, deleted relevant text messages and made officers fearful of retaliation for speaking with investigators.

        Thomas’s lawyer denied texts were deleted. He spoke at a news conference in which community activists peppered Heaphy with questions and shouted at Thomas, illustrating the deep distrust between some Charlottesville citizens and law enforcement officials after white nationalists descended on the Virginia city over its decision to remove a Confederate monument.

        “We are a community divided. We are still a community in crisis,” Thomas said.

        The report’s findings come a little over three months after the rally, which was believed to be the largest gathering of white nationalists in at least a decade. Street fights erupted between white nationalists and counter-demonstrators before the event officially began, and the brawling lasted nearly an hour in view of officers until authorities forced the crowd to disband.

        Later, as counter-demonstrators were peacefully marching downtown, a car drove into the crowd, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer and injuring many more.

        Heaphy’s report was sharply critical of Thomas’s response as the violence began to escalate that day. According to the report, as brawling first broke out, Thomas said: “Let them fight, it will make it easier to declare an unlawful assembly.”

        Thomas did not recall making that statement, which was cited in accounts by two other police employees, though he confirmed he waited to “see how things played out” before declaring an unlawful assembly, the report said.

        “Chief Thomas’ slow-footed response to violence put the safety of all at risk and created indelible images of this chaotic event,” it said.

        The report also said Thomas initially tried to limit access to certain information by directing subordinates not to answer certain questions.

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/02/charlottesville-report-criticises-police-response-and-blocking-of-investigation

  8. “Dershowitz slammed the special counsel for having to “resort to false statement prosecutions,” arguing it shows Mueller “didn’t start with very much” to begin his investigation.

    ”I think the weakness of Mueller’s substantive findings are suggested by the fact that he has to resort to false statement prosecutions, which really shows that he didn’t start with very much, and that the very fact that he’s conducting an investigation has created these crimes,” Dershowitz told Bill Hemmer. “These are not crimes that had been committed prior to his appointment, they’re crimes that were committed as the result of his appointment, and that raises some questions about the role of special prosecutors in creating crimes, or creating opportunities for crimes to be committed.”

    “In the end, I don’t think Mueller’s going to come up with very much, in terms of criminal conduct, that existed before he was appointed, and that’s pretty shocking,” added Dershowitz.”

    1. whats the point of that? want to see who talks bout the feds raiding Chciago alderman burke’s office first? or maybe you havent heard about it and Im the first. well lets hear from Turley first, dont want to steal his thunder

      1. i’ll say this….. the feds are good at cooking up, sorry strike that. I mean “investigating” crimes against powerful politicians not following federale dictates, and chicago is their favorite go-to place to pass out historical spankings as a lesson to the unruly populace.

        viz operation gaylord. or was it greylord. tomato, tomato!

      2. Kurtz, about a month ago you predicted that Chicago suburbs would go strongly Republican on Midterm Election day. But I have learned the opposite occurred. Republican counties surrounding Chicago trended Democratic.

        1. i may have said that. If what you say is correct then perhaps I was wrong. let us know if you find a detail study. i would like to read that

          1. Kurtz, it so happens I posted this story on Facebook. It was a wrap-up of midterm races around the country. Here’s what it said about Chicagoland.

            Chicago

            In 2016, six of the seven suburban Illinois counties around Chicago voted Republican. This year, all of them voted for Democrats. One of the most dramatic turnarounds in the region was in McHenry County, where Democrats went from earning 40 percent of the House vote in 2016 to 51 percent this year. This helped propel Democrat Sean Casten, who knocked off Republican incumbent Peter Roskam.

            Edited from: “Where The Suburbs Moved Left – And How The Shift Swung The Elections

            NPR, 11/2718

            1. mchenry county, 90% white, few blacks, about ten percent hispanic

              collar county of Chicago, 381K pop, less developed and more rural than its neighbor west, lake county which runs along the lakeside up to Wisconsin and Kenosha. Man Kenosha’s got a lot of Mexicans.

              They bleed north from chicago, Chicago has swallowed many mexican towns and drained them out, let’s put it that way — like 787,000 Mexicans in Chicago these days officially, so prolly a lot more. They have taken over a lot of neighborhoods but also leak out to the suburbs. Where whitey’s been running for decades. And up there in Lake & McHenry counties, lot of horse riding facilities up there around the Wisconsin border and you can bet they have mostly Mexican staffs mucking and so forth. It’s a big affectation for white folks with high incomes to have horses up there. A horse is almost as expensive as a boat but less fun if you ask me. Let me make a few observations about these things. These will not be nice but as the song goes, I am spicy, spicy and yet tasty

              Yo soy como el chile verde, llorona
              Picante pero sabroso

              One of the effects of proximity to Mexicans on white folks, including rich ones like play with horses, is they get real soft about migration. it’s mostly a poor white man’s issue to dislike mexican invasion. the upper middles and uppers signify their distance and haughtiness by acting all liberal. it’s quite pathetic. i have had a lot of talks with Mexicans who understand this phenomenon and they can use it to eke out out a little more pay from these pathetic upper crust white liberals who of course send to totally ignore obligation of filing 1099s on them.

              the truth is, I am a white guy and well educated, but I have the political sensibilities of a white worker not a managerial hack. Even though I dislike Mexican migration as a social phenomenon, I don’t dislike them on the personal level. I have many times enjoyed swilling beers with Mexicans on a personal level. They’re good cooks. I would rather eat arrachera off the grill and drink modelos from the can with a Mexican in the stables—- than bore myself to tears up in the big house with the chardonnay sipping ladies in their riding pants and their gelded husbands. what a bore! People like that avoid politics discussions but if they have them, it’s always a race to see who can be more of a simpering, apologizing, weakling liberal. Puke!

              One thing I always like about foreigners, they have a sense of race and ethnicity, that’s generally lacking in over-educated white people who pretend we’re all the same. Hell we are so obviously not in any way “equal” it’s a joke that anybody would believe that. And yet in white social circles, among conservatives, that delusion is seems obligatory, then among the liberals who don’t believe it, they just want to apologize and suffer! Between deluded conservatives with no sense of race and self hating white liberals, the white people in America are almost certainly screwed one way or another.

              Good thing I find Mexicans sufficiently congenial on a personal level since my government is so ineffective in keeping them out. A country boy can survive.

  9. PAUL MANAFORT AND ROGER STONE..

    HAVE BEEN BUDDIES SINCE 1970

    AS LOBBYISTS, THEY CASHED-IN DURING REAGAN ERA

    Michael Deaver, the Reagan adviser, gave Stone a Rolodex of the candidate’s contacts in New York. Stone flipped through it and scoffed.

    “Of 50 names, 40 were dead,” Stone recalled. “The rest were show business relationships.”
    Only one name in the Rolodex interested him: Roy M. Cohn.

    Cohn was Stone’s sort of guy. He’d been the prosecutor in the 1950s espionage trials of Ethel and Julius Rosenberg, and he’d been chief counsel to Sen. Joseph P. McCarthy, the communist-hunting rabble-rouser. When Stone arrived at Cohn’s Manhattan apartment, the lawyer was sitting with one of his clients, Anthony “Fat Tony” Salerno of the Genovese mob family.

    Cohn suggested Stone go meet a friend: Donald Trump. The dashing young real estate developer, still in his early 30s and building his empire both in business and as a tabloid celebrity, was also busy conjuring the legend that he was a self-made success story, rather than the son of a wealthy man who set him up in business. In Stone, he encountered a bon vivant with a similar gift for grand illusion.

    Trump made a contribution to Reagan. As the campaign moved along, he called Stone frequently, Stone said.

    “He kept track of his investment,” Stone said. “He was constantly checking in. He’d say, ‘Carter’s a piece of s—. If you can’t beat that guy!’ ”

    Just as Reagan’s candidacy was about to take off with a February victory in the New Hampshire primary, Black was fired as part of a campaign shake-up. He turned to his friends, Manafort and Stone, and the three decided to launch their own firm, with the Reagan campaign as an early client.

    Reagan’s victory in 1980 supercharged the fledgling firm. Manafort, shunned after Ford’s loss, was fielding calls again. Blue-chip corporations wanted lobbyists with connections to the new administration. Eventually, the three partners pulled in clients such as household products giant Johnson & Johnson, the investment banking firm Salomon Brothers, and for a short time, Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp., according to lobbying registration reports.
    Black, Manafort & Stone were an unusual combination.

    “It was a marriage of convenience,” Donaldson said. “That’s not a group you would see talking together at a cocktail party.”

    Black was the insider’s insider, a tactician with a long list of contacts, content to eat lunch at his desk. Manafort was the chess player, a triangulator extraordinaire who was getting a taste for the high life. Stone was the enigma, a flashy character in public with his Cab Calloway-style tailor-made suits, suspenders — he insisted they be called by their proper name, “braces”— and felt hats. He was a mystery even to those who worked down the hall from him.

    Edited from: “How Manafort and Stone Helped Create The Swamp Trump Said He’d Drain”

    Today’s WASHINGTON POST

    1. The above article is fascinating! During the 1980’s, Manafort and Stone were partners in one of Washington’s most lucrative lobbying firms. Manafort ‘pioneered’ the idea that ‘everyone’ should have a lobbyist. To that end, Manafort set about pitching his firm to foreign tyrants; including Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines and various African warlords.

      The lobbying firm broke up in the early 1990’s. Manafort then went his own way to specialize in foreign despots while Stone alternated between homes in Florida and Manhattan. Stone, however, remained good friends with Donald Trump. And it was Stone who persuaded Trump to appoint Manafort as Campaign Chairman.

    2. Don’t confuse legendary lawyer Roy Cohn with the abject flunky Michael Cohen.

      If you are interested in him, see James Woods as him in the biopic. it wasn’t very nice to his memory, but James Woods is a fine actor!

  10. Cohen is a known liar.

    Obergruppenfuhrer will implicate himself by putting a known liar on the stand.

    America – an invaded, conquered, undisciplined quivering mass of incoherence and hysteria.

    A la “Crazy Abe” Lincoln and the eminently ineligible Obama, and in the condition of open rebellion as the Obama Coup D’etat in

    America, President Trump is now fully justified in assuming control through declarations, executive orders and

    proclamations, and restoring law, order and intelligible republican governance, notwithstanding the insidious ability of anti-American,

    globalist, liberal collectivists to import heterogeneous and unassimilable illegal aliens as democrat voters by subreption.

  11. Cohen is going to prison and Hillary will follow.
    MAGA

    This is to “Jeff Bezos is my savior” Peter Shill

    1. Maybe you should write Trump about getting a discount for the new Trump tower in Moscow.

      1. Oh heck yeah. We shore don’t wants no wealth creators in America.

        Onliest things we wants is dem nice peasful fokes what gets “free stuff.”

        There sho is a free lunch! Jus axe Obama.

  12. COHEN’S GUILTY PLEA:

    TRUMP TOWER MOSCOW DEAL..

    WAS STILL GOING WELL INTO TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN

    As part of Cohen’s plea, he admitted to falsely claiming that efforts to build a Trump-branded tower in Moscow ended in January 2016, when in fact discussions continued through June of that year, the filing said. Among those Cohen briefed on the project’s status was Trump, on more than three occasions, according to the document.

    Trump has repeatedly said he had no business dealings in Russia, tweeting in July 2016, “For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia,” and telling reporters in January 2017 that he had no deals there because he had “stayed away.”

    On Thursday, Trump denounced Cohen when reporters asked about the case as he left the White House.

    “Michael Cohen is lying and he’s trying to get a reduced sentence for things that have nothing to do with me,” the president said. “This was a project that we didn’t do, I didn’t do . . . There would be nothing wrong if I did do it.”

    Trump added, “He’s a weak person.”

    Trump’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, suggested the timing of Mueller’s action with Cohen was politically motivated.

    “It is hardly coincidental that the special counsel once again files a charge just as the president is leaving for a meeting with world leaders at the G20 Summit in Argentina,” Giuliani said in a statement, noting that Mueller also unsealed charges before the president left the country for a summit in Helsinki in July.

    Edited from: “Michael Cohen, Trump’s Former Lawyer, Pleads Guilty To Lying To Congress About Moscow Project”

    Today’s WASHINGTON POST

    1. When Michael Cohen entered his guilty plea today, we learned the Trump Tower Moscow deal was still a works-in-progress until a few weeks before the Republican convention. We also learned that Cohen was in touch with the shadowy Felix Sater who promised Cohen a possible meeting with Putin or one of Putin’s top aides.

        1. Lying to the press or to the American people is not a crime. However, lying to Mueller about the question below as leaked to The NYT by Sekulow/Dowd could in theory be a crime.

          What communication did you have with Michael D. Cohen, Felix Sater and others, including foreign nationals, about Russian real estate developments during the campaign?

          It is admittedly possible that Trump could have answered the question truthfully to the best of his recollection. After all, Trump claims that he answered Mueller’s questions easily and that it didn’t take very long. Ha-Ha!

      1. Works in progress is not a deal. Get over it.

        “As part of Cohen’s plea, he admitted to falsely claiming that efforts to build a Trump-branded tower in Moscow ended in January 2016, when in fact discussions continued through June of that year, the filing said.”

        Firstly, we are listening to what Cohen says. Secondly he is an admitted liar. Third, why do you think Cohen or the WP would know what was in the mind of the principal? Does Cohen or the WP have a crystal ball? Fourth, nothinig of that nature would be illegal. Finally, the Moscow Tower doesn’t exist so it is a non issue.

        Such foolishness on Peter’s part. Such a waste of time causing great harm to the nation.

        1. Cohen had no choice but to admit the truth because Mueller has emails that prove that Cohen lied to Congress. Those same emails prove that Cohen briefed Donald Trump Jr. on the Trump Tower Moscow. Which, in turn, means that Donald Trump Jr. also lied to Congress about the Trump Tower Moscow. What are the chances that Donald Trump Jr. didn’t brief his father about the Trump Tower Moscow? When you figure that one out, move on to the chance that Trump truthfully answered the following question from Mueller as imagined and leaked to The NYT by Sekulow/Dowd way back when:

          What communication did you have with Michael D. Cohen, Felix Sater and others, including foreign nationals, about Russian real estate developments during the campaign?

          They say that the Trump Tower Moscow was dangled as a consolation prize if Trump lost the election. The deal collapsed when the DNC publicly announced the Russian hack of their email server on June 14th, 2016–just five days after the Trump Tower meeting of June 9th, 2016. Koinkidinke?

          1. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – there wasn’t enough money in the Moscow hotel deal to make it a consolation prize. And who was doing the dangling?

            1. From Cohen’s guilty plea:

              On or about January 14, 2016, COHEN emailed Russian Official 1’s office asking for assistance in connection with the Moscow Project. On or about January 16, 2016, COHEN emailed Russian Official 1’s office again, said he was trying to reach another high-level Russian official, and asked for someone who spoke English to contact him.

              On or about January 20, 2016, COHEN received an email from the personal assistant to Russian Official 1 (“Assistant 1”), stating that she had been trying to reach COHEN and requesting that he call her using a Moscow-based phone number she provided.

              Shortly after receiving the email, COHEN called Assistant 1 and spoke to her for approximately 20 minutes. On that call, COHEN described his position at the Company and outlined the proposed Moscow Project, including the Russian development company with which the Company had partnered. COHEN requested assistance in moving the project forward, both in securing land to build the proposed tower and financing the construction. Assistant 1 asked detailed questions and took notes, stating that she would follow up with others in Russia.

              The day after COHEN’s call with Assistant 1, Individual 2 contacted him, asking for a call. Individual 2 wrote to COHEN, “It’s about [the President of Russia] they called today.”

              [end excerpt]

              Rumor has it that Russian Official 1 is Dmitri Peskov. May I presume that you know who The President of Russia is?

              1. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Markn – do you know what a manufactured guilty plea is?

                1. More from Cohen’s guilty plea:

                  The Moscow Project was discussed multiple times within the Company and did not end in January 2016. Instead, as late as approximately June 2016, COHEN and Individual 2 discussed efforts to obtain Russian governmental approval for the Moscow Project. COHEN discussed the status and progress of the Moscow Project with Individual 1 on more than the three occasions COHEN claimed to the Committee, and he briefed family members of Individual 1 within the Company about the project.

              2. “Rumor has it”

                Rumor has it that Diane doesn’t know what she is talking about and now there is a rumor confirming the earlier one.

                1. From the Wikipedia article on Dmitry Peskov:

                  Since 2012, Peskov has been the Press Secretary for the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin.

                  1. Knowing Peskov’s name doesn’t prove you know what you are talking about. In fact all the quotes from Wikipedia and elsewhere don’t show that you know what you are talking about.

                    When we remove the quotes, the what ifs and all the nonesense we get a giant nothing.

                    1. Since you refuse to read the blawg and follow the thread, you force me to repeat a key passage from the the post below in reply to your dithering blather about a “giant nothing.”

                      On or about May 5, 2016, Individual 2 followed up with COHEN and wrote, “[Russian Official 1] would like to invite you as his guest to the St. Petersburg Forum which is Russia’s Davos it’s June 16-19. He wants to meet there with you and possibly introduce you to either [the President of Russia] or [the Prime Minister of Russia], as they are not sure if 1 or both will be there. . . . He said anything you want to discuss including dates and subjects are on the table to discuss.”

                      Remember that Russian Official 1 is Dmitry Peskov who has been Putin’s Press Secretary since 2012. Did you know that Trump and Peskov met for several hours during the 2013 Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow? Did you also know that May 5th, 2016, was ever so shortly before the GRU started their hacking operation against the DNC and John Podesta? Do you know what a plausibly deniable cover story is?????

                    2. “giant nothing.”

                      As I said a giant nothing. You are unable to put the pieces together. Why? Because most of what you have said in hundreds of postings is untrue.

                      Post the crime.
                      Then post the proof and the facts.

                      Peter writing an email to you asking why you robbed the bank doesn’t make you guilty of robbing the bank. Instead it might mean Peter is a liar or Peter doesn’t know what he is talking about.

            2. Also from Cohen’s guilty plea:

              COHEN agreed to travel to Russia in connection with the Moscow Project and took steps in contemplation of Individual 1’s possible travel to Russia. COHEN and Individual 2 discussed on multiple occasions traveling to Russia to pursue the Moscow Project.

              COHEN asked Individual 1 about the possibility of Individual 1 traveling to Russia in connection with the Moscow Project, and asked a senior campaign official about potential business travel to Russia.

              On or about May 4, 2016, Individual 2 wrote to COHEN, “I had a chat with Moscow. ASSUMING the trip does happen the question is before or after the convention . . . Obviously the pre-meeting trip (you only) can happen anytime you want but the 2 big guys where [sic] the question. I said I would confirm and revert.” COHEN responded, “My trip before Cleveland. [Individual 1] once he becomes the nominee after the convention.”

              On or about May 5, 2016, Individual 2 followed up with COHEN and wrote, “[Russian Official 1] would like to invite you as his guest to the St. Petersburg Forum which is Russia’s Davos it’s June 16-19. He wants to meet there with you and possibly introduce you to either [the President of Russia] or [the Prime Minister of Russia], as they are not sure if 1 or both will be there. . . . He said anything you want to discuss including dates and subjects are on the table to discuss.”

              On or about May 6, 2016, Individual 2 asked COHEN to confirm those dates would work for him to travel. COHEN wrote back, “Works for me.”

              From on or about June 9 to June 14, 2016, Individual 2 sent numerous messages to COHEN about the travel, including forms for COHEN to complete. However, on or about June 14, 2016, COHEN met Individual 2 in the lobby of the Company’s headquarters to inform Individual 2 he would not be traveling at that time.

              [end excerpt]

              Rumore has it that Individual 2 is Felix Sater. May I presume that you know who Individual 1 is?

              1. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – have no idea what a rumore is and I have never known anyone named Salter.

                1. A rumore is a Russian lover. A rumor is word on the street. Sater is not Salter nor vice versa. Individual 1 is Trump.

        2. One of the emails exchanged between Felix Sater and Michael D. Cohen. This one is from Sater to Cohen:

          Michael I arranged for Ivanka to sit in Putins [sic] private chair at his desk and office in the Kremlin. I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected. We both know no one else knows how to pull this off without stupidity or greed getting in the way. I know how to play it and we will get this done. Buddy our boy can become President of the USA and we can engineer it. I will get Putins [sic] team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.

          1. Diane, I am going to write an email:

            “Another person and Diane robbed a bank.”

            Does that mean Diane actually robbed a bank. Does it mean that another person robbed the bank with Diane? No. That is a confirmation of nothing.

            If you have an email that troubles you simply quote it and the reference source. I will review it and help you out since you have no idea of how to determine the truth.

            1. I don’t know if I’d put it passed her, Allan.
              But I think embezzlement is more likely to be her speciality.😀😂

          2. what a nut Cohen is
            DJT should have cut him off with extreme prejudice a long time ago

            1. Michael Cohen and Diane think alike. That is why she places so much credence on what he says.

              1. Allan “thinks” that Cohen pled guilty to lying to Congress about a business deal that was not a crime. Allan does not ask himself why Cohen would lie to Congress about a business deal that was not a crime. Allan insists that the business deal at issue was not a crime. Allan presumes that Cohen lied to Congress about that business deal because Cohen is a lying liar and that’s what lying liars do even when they have no criminal conduct to conceal. Well, Cohen pled guilty to lying to Congress. Therefore Cohen is a lying liar. Therefore Cohen lied to Congress about a business deal that was not a crime. And that’s how Allan determines “the truth.” Tautologically.

                Did you know that the $50 million penthouse apartment in The Trump Tower Moscow was to be “gifted” to The Russian President, Vladimir Putin, to attract financing from Russian oligarchs who would “gift” anything to live in the same building with The Russian President, Vladimir Putin? Ha-Ha! Tick tock tick tock tick tock . . .

                1. “Allan “thinks””

                  Diane, it is not what I think rather the facts that count. Don’t ask questions “why Cohen would lie”? That is for you to tell us while you provide proof. But you can’t because almost everything you say is made up.

                  You are left with Cohen lied but you don’t have proof of why so you create a convoluted explanation. You fail.

                    1. From the criminal information statement to which Cohen pled guilty:

                      7. In truth and in fact, and as COHEN well knew, COHEN’s representations about the Moscow Project he made to SSCI and HPSCI
                      were false and misleading. COHEN made the false statements to (1) minimize links between the Moscow Project and Individual 1 and (2)
                      give the false impression that the Moscow Project ended before “the Iowa caucus and . . . the very first primary,” in hopes of . . . [end of sentence lost . . . stay tuned].

                    2. And now for the conclusion of the previous sentence . . .

                      in the hopes of . . . limiting the ongoing Russia investigations.

                    3. What that document demonstrates is that Cohen likely lied but it did nothing to substantiate your case involving Trump. You have failed over and over again to make your case.

                2. More evidence of “Tick Tock Tinnitus Syndrome”.
                  Often accompanied by hearing imaginary voices, and seeing imaginary visions.

        1. The actions of a lot of foolish people are putting the country at risk. They are not dealing with policy. Their entire focus is on destroying this President. Is his desire to limit immigration a bad idea. The leaders of the Democratic Party ten years ago virutally agreed with everything Trump has been willing to do but suddenly those same people changed positions and now suddenly again they are moving to their positions of 10 years ago. Their tactics are lawless and their reliance on a new complaint every week or so is not permitting policy in America to be as successful as it might be. Right now it is Trump Tower in Moscow, but had the tower actually been built it wouldn’t be illegal. They are searching for an error that has nothing to do with the tower itself.. It’s Stormy Daniels, the Steele Report etc. etc and they have weaponized the FBI to do so which is what one sees in communist and autocratic countries.

            1. Excerpted from the article linked above:

              After almost 30 years of looking, the most serious bid came in 2015, when Felix Sater teamed up with his childhood friend and Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen to realize the dream by licensing a 100-story Trump hotel in the Russian capital. (By this point, the Trump organization was done building hotels, but still in the business of lending out the name for a licensing fee.) [edit] About a week before, the day of a Republican primary debate in Colorado, Trump signed a letter of intent to go ahead with the project. Sater tracked down financing with the state-controlled VTB Bank, which was then under U.S. sanctions, but switched sources on New Year’s Day to GenBank, also under U.S. sanctions.

              1. Repeated for emphasis:

                Trump signed a letter of intent to go ahead with the project. Sater tracked down financing with the state-controlled VTB Bank, which was then under U.S. sanctions, but switched sources on New Year’s Day to GenBank, also under U.S. sanctions.

                [end excerpt]

                Technically speaking, it was Trump Acquisitions LLC that signed the letter of intent. I mention that because A) it is not immediately clear whether a Limited Liability Corporation can be pardoned for crimes against The United States and B) it is not clear what would happen next if The POTUS who grants that pardon is the sole proprietor of the LLC to which that POTUS grants that pardon.

                1. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – there are different entities for each of these projects. They do the same thing with movies. Each is its own LLC. If you stay for the end of the credits you learn this crap.

                  1. You’re suggesting, perhaps, that if Trump Acquisitions LLC no longer exists, then Mueller can’t indict Trump Acquisitions LLC for crimes against The United States. If so, then being the sole proprietor of an extinct LLC is even better than being The POTUS who used to own that extinct LLC. Something tells me that your suggestion is wrong.

                    1. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – I have no idea of the LLC’s existence or not. The problem is it criminally or civilly liable for anything?

                  2. Excerpted from the document linked above:

                    Corporations are “legal persons,” capable of suing and being sued, and capable of committing crimes. Under the doctrine of respondeat superior, a corporation may be held criminally liable for the illegal acts of its directors, officers, employees, and agents. To be held liable for these actions, the government must establish that the corporate agent’s actions (i) were within the scope of his duties and (ii) were intended, at least in part, to benefit the corporation. In all cases involving wrongdoing by corporate agents, prosecutors should consider the corporation, as well as the responsible individuals, as potential criminal targets.

            2. “The Trump Tower Moscow is Trump’s Moby Dick:”

              Trump Tower Moscow is a decades old dream of Trump that has never been realized so the dream continues. I think it is you who is interested in Moby Dick.

              1. Allan, Late4Yoga has made it clear that she does not swing that way i.e. Moby Dick – she likes girls (nothing wring with that by the way). What drives Late4Yoga and other lefty loons so crazy is that Trump threatens their comfy status quo and in-process loss of power by lefty machines. Ironically Trump is a disruptor and oddly similar to left hero JFK i.e. lower taxes and sentiment on CIA “splinter into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds” for example. Trump is similar to left icon JFK and they try so hard to suppress this comparison which manifests itself in denial and Trump hate.

                1. Bill Martin – I did not know that L4Yoga had stated a sexual preference.

                    1. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – completely? I find that a little hard to believe in this day and age.

                    2. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – I do not understand that and I think we are at the point of TMI. I am not going to ask you to explain it. 😉

      1. FUBARAllan said, “Does a Trump Tower exist in Moscow? No. End of discussion.”

        A conspiracy does not have to come to fruition in order to be charged as a conspiracy. All that needs to be proven is that the conspirators entered into an agreement to conceal from the government by deceptive or dishonest means information that the government is statutorily obligated to possess in order to carry out its legitimate governmental functions and that at least one overt act was taken in the furtherance of that conspiracy.

        Beginning of discussion.

        1. It is not a conspiracy to build a building in Moscow. Prove your case using the normal legal standard in the US. That means you need evidence and can’t tie things together with the word “if”. You can’t do it but you sure can talk even if the talk makes no sense.

          End of story.

            1. Excerpted from the article linked above:

              [intro edited]

              The letter was also obtained by federal authorities, who are taking its claims “very seriously,” said two U.S. officials who also requested anonymity because of the sensitivities of the probe.

              The statement makes a series of explosive but uncorroborated claims about Papadopoulos’s alleged coordination with Russians in the weeks following Trump’s election in November 2016, including that Papadopoulos said he was “doing a business deal with Russians which would result in large financial gains for himself and Mr. Trump.” The confidant—whose name The Atlantic is withholding on request but whose identity is known to congressional and federal investigators—stated a willingness to take a polygraph test “to prove that I am being truthful” and had come forward now after seeing Papadopoulos “become increasingly hostile towards those who are investigating him and his associates.” A lawyer for Papadopoulos declined to comment.

              If corroborated, the claims in the letter would add to an emerging portrait of Trump and his associates’ eagerness to strike backdoor deals with Russia even after the intelligence community concluded that Moscow had interfered in the 2016 election. (Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, tried to set up a “back channel” to Russia in the weeks after the election and met with the CEO of a sanctioned Russian bank during the transition period. Trump’s former national-security adviser, Michael Flynn, meanwhile, negotiated with the Russian ambassador about U.S. sanctions before Trump was inaugurated.)

            2. After Papadopoulos will have served his time and after he provided his testimony over and over the Democrats under Schiff will continue to abuse him. Next the Democrats will try and use rubber hoses.

              1. No need for rubber hoses; as incoming Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Schiff may overcome the camera-shyness😒 he had as a minority member, and really step up his TV appearances.

            1. Excerpted from the article linked above:

              Mr. Millian proposed that he and Mr. Papadopoulos form an energy-related business that would be financed by Russian billionaires “who are not under sanctions” and would “open all doors for us” at “any level all the way to the top.”

              One billionaire, he said, wanted to explore the idea of opening a Trump-branded hotel in Moscow. “I know the president will distance himself from business, but his children might be interested,” he wrote.

            2. Allan says: November 30, 2018 at 3:23 PM

              “It is not a conspiracy to build a building in Moscow. [edit] End of story.”

              Nevertheless, the covfefe boy who had been previously told that Russia had thousand of emails damaging to Hillary Clinton was also subsequently told that a Russian billionaire wanted to build a Trump Tower Moscow.

              You see, Allan, when you tell the story chronologically it turns out that the story is not yet over. And here’s why not, Allan: Just because The Trump/Russia Conspiracy has not yet been proven doesn’t mean that The Trump/Russia Conspiracy will not ever be proven. Just look at how far along the special counsel’s investigation of The Trump/Russia Conspiracy has come thus far. No. Seriously. Look. At. It. Allan. Just look at it.

              1. “Just because The Trump/Russia Conspiracy ******** has not yet been proven******* doesn’t mean that The Trump/Russia Conspiracy will not ever be proven.”

                Post after post Diane has said the story is proven. I guess a crack of light just hit her that no conspiracy has been proven and it is doubtful one ever will be. It’s a witch hunt mostly proven by the process crimes being charged.

                Diane has finally admitted that her zillions of posts were untrue and not well thought out.

                1. FUBARAllan The Big Fat Lying Liar said, “Post after post Diane has said the story is proven.”

                  Prove that statement quoted above, you big fat lying liar, FUBARAllan. Prove it.

                  1. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – you may not have said the case was proven but baby you are backing and hoeing now!!!! You heavily intimated the case was proven and when I gave you evidence to the contrary, you ignored it. Now, you are finally realizing that the Trump Hotel in Moscow was a branding deal and DJT would have been hands off, except for getting updates. The 50mil apt in the hotel would not have been his decision.

                    1. Ubi Pablito snorted, “. . . when I gave you evidence to the contrary, you ignored it.”

                      The only evidence on the subject of The Trump Tower Project that has been posted on this thread was posted by L4D and PH. The person or persons ignoring the evidence are neither L4D nor PH. Get a clue.

                    2. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – two things here. 1) you haven’t answered if you understand the concept of a manufactured guilty plea? 2) a manufactured guilty plea is not evidence.

                      I did tell you I thought it was a branding deal and it was.

                    3. Perry Mason Schulteacher complained, “1) you haven’t answered if you understand the concept of a manufactured guilty plea? 2) a manufactured guilty plea is not evidence.”

                      As far as I can tell, you seem to be alluding to the so-called nolo contendere (or no contest) plea–which is technically not a guilty plea that could be admissible as evidence at a civil trial. Cohen did not plead nolo contendere. Cohen pled guilty.

                    4. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – the manufactured guilty plea is when you plead guilty to something you didn’t do so they don’t hit you with a bigger something you did do.

                    5. And why would The Congress file a civil suit against Cohen for lying to Congress?

                    6. Paul, Diane reminds me of Bullwinkle in fractured fairy tales. She doesn’t have the slightest idea what she is talking about. That is why she uses so many quotes and citations. It’s impossible to put her ideas on paper and make them not look crazy.

                  2. I have to prove nothing Diane. You are the one that is making a fool of yourself. Everything is on the blog and anyone can refer to the comments made and draw their own conclusions.

                    1. Allan says: December 1, 2018 at 9:31 AM

                      Post after post Diane has said the story is proven.

                      Diane has finally admitted that her zillions of posts were untrue and not well thought out.

                      Allan says: December 2, 2018 at 8:58 AM

                      I have to prove nothing Diane.

                      Allan says: November 30, 2018 at 3:23 PM

                      Prove your case using the normal legal standard in the US. That means you need evidence and can’t tie things together with the word “if”. You can’t do it but you sure can talk even if the talk makes no sense.

                    2. Yes, Diane, what I am saying is that you post quoted material that become junk when that material is mixed with what you say.

                      You are the one creating the crimes so you are the one that has to prove them. To date your proof generally relies on something like…If, if and if.

            3. Sounds like the Russia story once again is going nowhere so back to Papadopoulos.Then they can move to Stormy Daniels and peeing on beds in Russia.

              A bunch of kooks.

              1. Had The Trump Tower Moscow deal resulted in any transfers of assets or cash to Trump, Trump’s children or The Trump Organization, Mueller would have been able to allege a simple, straightforward bribery case against Trump. Bribery is specifically named as an impeachable offense in the U.S. Constitution.

                You really need to wake up, snap out of it and start paying attention to what’s going on around here, Rip van Winkle.

                1. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – if I remember correctly, Trump only makes out if the deal makes out and you have to be willing to walk away from the deal.

                  1. That’s true–if Trump walked away from the deal and if Trump didn’t “make out” from the deal that he walked away from.

                    If, however, the deal included “thousands of emails damaging to Hillary Clinton” in exchange for limited, case-by-case, sanctions relief for Russian individuals or Russian organizations by means of Consent Decrees with The Treasury Department certifying compliance and with the approval of The POTUS who then notifies Congress, then it might not be true that Trump walked away from the deal and that Trump did not make out from the deal that Trump might not have walked away from.

                    It makes one wonder what might’ve happened had Flynn not been caught talking about sanctions with Kislyak.

                    1. “If, however, the deal included “thousands of emails”

                      Take note how Diane’s proof is If, if and if. Diane is unable to state her claim in her own words and provide proof of that claim that is not conjecture.

                2. The point is that such known transfers of cash to Trump haven’t been claimed by any responsible adult and I must add that transfers of cash occur without bribery occurring. This is all in your mind and guilt is not determined based on your fantassies.

  13. So much money spent on russians, Russians, RUSSIANS! Immigrants are dying trying to enter the USA borders, and Democrats are burning the peoples money on McCarthyism in lieu of helping the people who need food, clothing, shelter and care for their children. Such a disgrace to see Democrats forget the poor at the door while gleefully mis-spending taxpayer monies

    It brings to mind the words of our Lord Jesus Christ (except for Peter Shill who hates Him)

    Since the Passover of the Jews was near, Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
    He found in the temple area those who sold oxen, sheep, and doves, as well as the money-changers seated there.
    He made a whip out of cords and drove them all out of the temple area, with the sheep and oxen, and spilled the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables,
    and to those who sold doves he said, “Take these out of here, and stop making my Father’s house a marketplace.” Gospel of St John 2:13-16
    http://www.usccb.org/bible/john/2

    1. And now big revelation is that Trump wanted to build in Moscow. So many major developers have targeted Moscow over past 20 years. Muler investigation is spinning wheels now and will soon spin off the road. Muler will soon be Trump road kill. Trump is an undefeated counter-puncher (Brennan, Comey, Clinton, Flake, etc).

      1. imagine a hotelier wanting to build a hotel in the Russian capital. SHAME SHAME SHAME! lol.

        The New McCarthyism, hate Russia, its a cryin shame

        https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-new-mccarthyism-is-destroying-the-democratic-party/

        Kind of makes Hillary look good in a sick way, she sure knew how to talk to Putin, look at all the money he funneled her!

        Not a very good deal, she took his money and still provoked the hell out of them. As stupid as it was back in the days of the soviets. here’s a movie for ya folks

    2. No one is sure what your wackjob bible-thumping has to do with anything of consequence, But it’s gratifying to see one of the gullible rubes, dupes, klan wanabees, pocket-traitors and grifters on the make getting their panties in a wad as justice is served and the clock keeps ticking down on the debacle that is the administration of the day glo bozo. Salute!

      this is to “hannity never told me McCarthy was a Republican” linda

      1. Political party Republican (1944–1957)
        Other political
        affiliations Democratic (before 1944)

        from wiki

      2. The NPC Marky Mark Mark runs the klan wannabee script and forgets the McCarthy was supported by the Kennedys and the FBI.

  14. This is CYA commentary on Lemon-head Avennatti after Jon Turley showered his former pupil with praise. Jon Turley is now doing Michael Jackson moonwalk away from toxic Lemon-head.

  15. Madam Clinton/DNC paid for oppo research on Trump using UK and Russian nationals with no repercussions. Instead Muler goes for 2006 cold case tax fraud prosecution of fired Trump campaign manager and perjury traps of fringe political players. To quote Dr. Henry Lee: “Something wrong with this picture”.

    1. Bloomberg news said, “She did it the legal way!”
      Just the opp research that is, not talking about a thousand other things> LOL

  16. https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2018/11/29/trump-if-you-dont-want-to-pay-tariffs-build-in-the-u-s-a/

    our great leader heroically calls on global industry to create new jobs in America, and incentivizes them to do it! Even as the nation wrecking mass media daily screams for his destruction. SAD!

    Many phony leftists fail to see the connection, and Democrat leadership which should be out there cheering Trump on behalf of workers, instead condemn him to advance their own narrow interests!

    See if you ever get a Republican to push trade policy like this again. Oh, how sad and pathetic the Democrats have squandered this historic opportunity to advance the interests of those they supposedly represent! How unfortunate for the workers; that is, not the workers invading our country from Honduras, not the Chinese sweatshop workers abroad making Nike shoes, but the AMERICAN WORKERS!

  17. MITCH MCCONNELL SAYS:

    “NO NEED FOR MUELLER PROTECTION BILL”

    BUT TRUMP TELLS NEW YORK POST:

    “I WOULDN’T TAKE IT (A MANAFORT PARDON) OFF THE TABLE”

    Senate Republicans are once again refusing to act to protect special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation. Their spin is that there’s simply no chance Trump will ever go through with trying to remove him. As Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) put it: “The president’s not going to fire Robert Mueller.” McConnell added: “Nor do I think he should.”

    Inconveniently enough, two new developments have now rendered this defense of inaction even more untenable than it was before.

    First, ABC News is now reporting that former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen is reaching a new plea deal with Mueller’s team and will plead guilty to having lied to Congress about his contacts with Russia during the campaign. While it’s not clear what Cohen will admit to having lied about, sources tell ABC that the Cohen testimony in question concerns statements that include exonerating the Trump campaign of any conspiracy with Russian sabotage of the election.

    ABC also reports that Cohen’s cooperation with Mueller is “crucial” to his case. While we should treat anything concerning this oily character with extreme care, at a minimum, the fact that Trump’s personal attorney is now claiming he previously lied about Russia-related matters — and is prepared to tell Mueller about it — would seem to put Trump in greater peril, and further tempt him to try to impede the investigation.

    Second, in a new interview with the New York Post, Trump flatly declared that a pardon for former campaign chair Paul Manafort is still a possibility. “It was never discussed, but I wouldn’t take it off the table,” Trump said. “Why would I take it off the table?”

    To be sure, questions as to whether Trump will try to constrain Mueller and whether he’ll pardon Manafort are separate from one another. But what really matters here is the larger message Trump is sending with his new comments about a Manafort pardon: Trump once again signaled that he is determined to preserve for himself the ability to flagrantly abuse his powers to protect himself from accountability as it closes in around him.

    Edited from: “As Cohen Pleads Guilty, Raging Trump Blows Up GOP’s Mueller Spin”

    Today’s WASHINGTON POST

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kc-d26d-XM

      Bill Clinton over DOJ objections pardoned Marc Rich,

      a fugitive from justice, who had been on the fbi’s most wanted list,
      for tax evasion, money laundering, and trading with enemy nations

      Clintons SOLD marc rich a pardon

      investigation of scandal went nowhere: Comey buried it

      1. Clintons SOLD marc rich a pardon

        I think the price was a blowjob from Denise Rich. What Joseph Sobran said at the time: with BC, assume the cruder explanation, and that’s Denise’s ample bosom.

  18. JT has written more than once that Mueller recommended a sentence of 6 months for Papadopoulos Several sources reported that the recommendation was zero to 6 months (significantly less than the possible 5 years) and a $9500 fine. The judge chose 2 weeks, closer to the zero recommendation than the 6 months.

    1. Meuller caught an embarrassingly small fish in a tournament and had the gall to ask it to count in his favor. Pathetic!

      That’s as bad as when Eric Holder indicted for fraud 300 some street level mortgage brokers for the mortgage debacle instead of bagging one single big fish on wall street. Really sad!

      at least the feds have el chapo, they’ll be parading him around to try and convince us they’re good at crime prevention for decades. i still hear about ole Elliot Ness all the time. Do you think they “prevent” any crime at all?

      The scariest thing is how little they really CAN prevent. Very, very little. Even the best!

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