
Yes, we have come to this. Yesterday the White House was the setting for a scene that seems to capture the total loss of decorum in our politics and press. Playboy reporter and CNN contributor Brian Karem can be shown heaping scorn on fathering conservative social media figures like some Internet troll. Former Trump official Sebastian Gorka then responds by heaping insults on Karem. It was an utter disgrace, but President Trump responded by praising Gorka. Never side deserves praise of any kind.
What is equally troubling is that videos posted by outlets like the Washington Post and reported on cable cut out Karem’s unprofessional taunting and only showed Gorka’s boorish response:
The Post camera may not have captured the initial statements of Karem but there were other videos available that showed the full story. Otherwise, it looked like Gorka simply charged at the line of journalists. Here is the full clip:
Why edit out Karem’s insulting the group? There are valid objections to the event, but Karem’s “demonic possession” line was little more than taunting and trolling. Karem’s response that “we can go outside and have a long conversation” is equally unprofessional.
The entire affair was a disgrace to both the White House and White House press corp. The fact that people immediately edited the tape to create false impressions only magnifies the concern over the state of our political and press values.
We recently saw a young man sue the media, including the Washington Post, for editing of a tape at the Lincoln Memorial to make him look like he engaged in an unprovoked racist attack. It appears that the lawsuits have not deterred some in Washington.
Gorka met this beta male’s challenge exactly the way he should have by confronting him and watching him melt down with equivocating, stammering words: ” I said talk to him … talk to him …” But as the savvy A-A journalist noted “we all know what that means.” Karem is truly a punk. Maybe even a PAB!
We need more men behaving like men instead of cultured old ladies. Sometimes a punch is all the clarity you need. Go Gorka go!
Republicans and these social media A$$hats deserve scorn. All they do is Sh!t on the American people with their lies,and use the constitution as their toilet paper.
Facebook Put a Fatwa on PJW
They’ve gone f*king nuts.
Published 2 days ago
on 10 July, 2019
Paul Joseph Watson
26 Comments
Facebook is literally inciting its 2 billion users to break the law and incite violence against people Facebook doesn’t like.
https://summit.news/2019/07/10/facebook-put-a-fatwa-on-pjw/
Conservative philosophy is inherently optimistic
Conservative means whatever you want it to mean, a make it up on the fly Judaism / Catholicism / Christianity aks Bill Kristol, David French, Ross Douthat, et al, all conservative first, religious tenets are kept and discarded on a whim
The David Brock trolls are outraged [snark on] about a beautiful Latina – African American young woman wearing a patriotic dress at the Rose Garden, bringing to mind Bill Clinton’s scorched earth tactics against his rape victims, i.e. drag a $100 bill through a trailer park
They would have been applauding and catcalling her had she been in the Clinton White House assuming Bill’s favorite position in the pay-for-play Lincoln Bedroom. Or they would have wanted part of Bill’s legacy had his DNA stained her dress in the Oval Office ala Monica “yet another rape victim” Lewinsky
Truth be told the Left, who for decades have used the Catholic Church as a whipping post due to Church practices during the Inquisition and Middle Ages, lmake Spanish Inquisitors look like boy scouts. No doubt the Left would detach tongues, remove limbs and throw cement laden milkshakes at anyone who denounces their contrived dogmas, shifting weekly as they do.
Estovir, whatever thoughts you were trying to cobble together here are woefully incoherent. Somehow we jumped from a Black Latina in a patriotic dress to the Spanish Inquisition.
Oh yeah. Great crowd of ‘journalists’ that Trump invites to the White House. That crazy Jill dressed in the flag outfit (very professional), James (the phony pimp scammer) O’keefe, and Nazi medal Two Gun Gorka. Yep. Quite a gathering of impressive social media types. What a clown show.
” That crazy Jill dressed in the flag outfit (very professional)…”
Yeah, that was a great look for a White House event. I guess her name is Joy Villa. She was the icing on the cake in that crazy get-up, looking like a cast member from “The Hunger Games.”
“What a clown show.”
Indeed.
cute lady
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8778054/joy-villa-maga-dress-grammys-trump/
From the Cosmo article:
“In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, the designer of the dress — Filipino immigrant Andre Soriano — echoed Joy’s support for the current president, although he denied to comment on anything specific.
“We need to move this country forward, and we believe it’s time to promote love,” he said. “We only live once, and we need to promote love. We have one president now who is going to do the best thing for planet America.””
Since when is anything patriotic classified as, “Crazy, Clown ..”
Are you really a communist posing as an American?
How curious that so many applaud Laga Gaga in a meat dress, and Miley Cyrus with a foam finger at her crotch, but are offended when singer Joy Villa usually wears an exuberantly patriotic dress. One should note they are not offended by the use of the flag symbol in an article of clothing, but rather find the flag itself to be upsetting.
There is something wrong with our culture when the flag has become offensive to the Left.
Compare and contrast Leftist darling entertainer Lady Gaga (her meat dress was literally made out of raw beef, and then there was her transparent costume with a nun’s veil) with Joy Villa:
https://www.instyle.com/news/lady-gaga-most-gaga-looks-ever
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/joy-villa-clashes-with-journalists-at-social-media-summit-wearing-dress-president-trump-praised-004858000.html
It takes great courage for Joy Villa to wear patriotic, pro-Trump wear in Hollywood.
how curious that you find gaga in a meat dress on a stage comparable to Crazy Jill in a Flag dress in the White House rose garden. BTW, aren’t you from a military family? Surely you know it is against the flag rules to make garments out of the flag. Her clown costume was very disrespectful.
“Her clown costume was very disrespectful.” -Henry Russell
I could give two hoots what Joy Villa wears to the Grammy Awards ceremony, but this was the White House and Rose Garden, as you rightly note. Villa was obviously seeking attention and promoting herself.
Henry, here is my comment again.
“One should note they are not offended by the use of the flag symbol in an article of clothing, but rather find the flag itself to be upsetting.”
The dress is not an actual flag, but has elements of the flag in it. In the same manner, most 9/11 shirts have flag emblems. Bunting has the stripes.
The Leftist criticism of Villa had nothing to do with concern the American flag be displayed properly and shown respect.
True, Karen.
If they were, then they might have been slightly dismayed by Nike’s Betsy Ross shoe that had the flag embroidered on it.
Henry Russell,
Calling Joy Villa names is not helping matters and only reinforces people’s perceptions that Leftists are nasty to anyone who disagrees with their worldview.
“Do not believe that you alone can be right.
The man who thinks that,
The man who maintains that only he has the power
To reason correctly, the gift to speak, to soul––
A man like that, when you know him, turns out empty.”
–from Antigone
Lady Gaga wore her meat dress to the WH? I missed that.
Here is Joy Villa’s heritage for anyone needing a good dose of cognitive dissonance. 😉 This lady knows her own mind.
“She grew up with an Italian-Argentinean father and an African American-Choctaw mother, blending the cultures to create a perfect mix.”
https://joyvilla.com/about
This was, of course, for those claiming Trump supporters were lily-white.
“One should note they are not offended by the use of the flag symbol in an article of clothing, but rather find the flag itself to be upsetting.”
LOL. Typical “Karen.”
“Great crowd of ‘journalists’ that Trump invites to the White House….”
Comment clearly shows they have more integrity than you.
James (the phony pimp scammer) O’keefe
Again, O’Keefe is bothersome only to partisan frauds. For honest people, he performs a public service.
Absurd — just like your moniker.
This was an event in the Rose Garden. Both men should have shown some class and kept their mouths shut.
This “eye for an eye” shtick seems to be escalating. At this rate they will all be blind and silent. Hmmmm.
😉
Dem Black Caucus member rips ‘ignorance’ coming from AOC’s camp and juvenile freshman ‘squad’
Rep. William Lacy Clay joined the growing criticism of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her “inappropriate” attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
The Missouri Democrat and member of the Congressional Black Caucus called out Ocasio-Cortez and her “squad” of freshman Democrats for the “ignorance” shown in accusing Pelosi of being racially insensitive.
Clay had blasted Ocasio-Cortez for “using the race card” in her attack on Pelosi.
“What a weak argument, because you can’t get your way and because you’re getting pushback you resort to using the race card? Unbelievable. That’s unbelievable to me,” he said, according to The Hill. “I could care less. I could really care less. I agree with the Speaker. Four people, four votes out of 240 people, who cares.”
“It shows you how weak their argument is when they have to resort and direct racist accusations toward Speaker Pelosi … it’s very disappointing to me,” he added.
The Missouri Democrat also blasted Chakrabarti and the progressive Democrats as “juvenile” and “ignorant.”
“It shows you how ignorant and little history [Chakrabarti] knows, how ignorant he is to American history. How dare he,” Clay said.
“They’re missing the fact that we have a very thin margin of a majority that we’re operating under and apparently it doesn’t matter to Justice Democrats, they just want to get skins. They want to score points for whatever reason,” he added, according to The Hill.
“But I find it juvenile, their tactics, I find their ignorance to be beyond belief about American history and about who are really segregationists,” Clay said. “And so how dare they try to play the race card at this point, it shows you the weakness of their arguments.”
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/07/12/dem-black-caucus-member-rips-ignorance-coming-from-aocs-camp-and-juvenile-freshman-squad-774182
Karem should have kept his mouth shut, but Gorka would have done well to ignore Karem. Both of them look like jerks. It was an infantile exchange.
What a circus…in the Rose Garden.
You invite clowns, you might get a circus.
In young Mr. Sandmann’s case, the full one hour, forty five minute-long video posted on YouTube showing what happened to the Covington Catholic High because I and several other people posted it to the comment space under an article in the Washington Post supporting the negative narrative aimed at the Covington Kids.
They didn’t change their statements which this clip clearly contradicts after this longer clip was posted. At 1:04:58 the violent, bigoted rhetoric aimed at the Covington kids who were wearing MAGA hats begins, and not long after that, the native American protester Nathan Phillips turns his procession toward the stationary Nicholas Sandmann and other students visiting the Lincoln Memorial with him.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3EC1_gcr34?start=3898&w=560&h=315%5D
The Covington kids were clearly the most respectful and adult acting participants in that event on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, and of them, Sandman, who if not on a step or two above the “indian”, is pipsqueak kid, the most adult acting of that group. He and they were wrongly portrayed in early coverage based on a video posted anonymously by a less than objective source. There is no evidence that the post edited that video as JT alleges and with in 3 days the Post wrote about the new evidence in additional 3rd party videos.
The Covington incident was a rorschact test that most on the left failed even after new evidence in the form of those videos, as well new information like the most reasonable interpretation of the tomahawk chop was not racism, but the common sports chant by Braves, Seminoles, and Chief fans that teenage boys would likely be familiar with. As for MAGA hats, again these were kids aping their parents beliefs and many – not all – will shed them as they mature.
Facts matter and that is a lesson all should learn from this incident, though the left failed this one.
In a nutshell, Karem told Gorka to come on over so he could hit him. Gorka immediately stepped right up, and Karem turned away. Sounds like someone’s mouth is writing checks he can’t cover.
If the target of a bully ignores it, the situation usually escalates. The only way to make it stop is to stand your ground. Make it clear that bullying will prove unpleasant for the perpetrator.
More people need to call attention to the Left’s harassment. They’ve gotten a free pass and have become emboldened to the point that they chase conservative families out of restaurants.
Inform the public, and perhaps the perpetrators will stop.
Sorry – the above comment was from me. Looks like my info didn’t populate.
Karen’s little “in a nutshell” description doesn’t accurately depict what took place. (Gee, what a surprise. /sarc) Watch the vid.
This is why Karen S can’t be taken seriously. She a great distorter.
Anonymous – that was not an honest thing to say. It appears you are not informed, so let me enlighten you.
Karen shouted at Gorka to come over here so they could step outside. Gorka went right over there and called him no journalist, but a punk to his face.
Karem promptly wilted.
If you didn’t see that, perhaps you should watch the unedited video.
Here is the text of Karem telling Gorka to step outside. “Come on over here and talk to me, brother. We can go outside and have a long conversation.”
Here is the full clip of what Karem said.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/new-video-shows-cnns-karem-taunting-summit-guests-with-demonic-possession-jab-daring-gorka-to-take-dispute-outside/
You will note that the clips included on the blog post cut that part out. The second clip in the post cut out from Karem’s angle, so you can’t really hear him to tell Gorka to come step outside. The clip I included stuck on Karem’s angle. You will notice that after Karem brashly told Gorka to step outside, Gorka went right up to him. All of a sudden, Karem deflated and wasn’t interested in stepping outside any longer.
Karem insulted Gorka, and Gorka called him on it. Loudly. This needs to be done repeatedly every single time Leftists harass and insult conservatives. They’ve gotten away with it for so long they feel entitled to behave like toddlers. Gorka didn’t throw poop on his shoes. He didn’t deck him, although he’d been threatened with a fight. He said he was no journalist but rather a punk. Since he’s a playboy “journalist”, perhaps he should stick to interviewing bunnies in the grotto.
That’s rather tame even for the House of Lords.
Karen wrote: “Anonymous – that was not an honest thing to say. It appears you are not informed, so let me enlighten you.”
The only one who needs to be enlightened is you, Karen.
The person who is being dishonest about the exchange is Karen.
Quoting mediaite? Who do really work for? The Russians?
I found it amusing how Karem wilted when Gorka came over when invited to step outside. Then when Gorka went back to his seat and the Secret Service arrived, all of a sudden Karem found his bravado again and shouted at Gorka to get a job.
This, from a journalist for Playboy. I wonder what kind of “work” he does for the mansion…with all the dog pee stained carpet.
Karen continues to distort what happened. She gets away with a lot of nonsense.
Please enlighten us oh master Anonymous, every comment from you pertaining to the situation in the Rose Garden, is a total distortion, total nonsense.
That’s Karen’s interpretation of what Karem said, which was ambiguous and which he denies.
So, Anon1, watch and listen to the unedited video, and give us your “interpretation” of what Karem said.
I already did -“ambiguous”.
Wow. Must say, Anon1, I wasn’t expecting you to go quite that far out on the limb. Sure you don’t want to walk your interpretation back a little bit?
What has long passed for acceptable behavior is for Leftists in the media, academia, politics, Hollywood et al openly insult conservatives. They call them every name in the book, and there doesn’t seem to be a line they won’t cross. Conservatives are expected to roll over and take it.
That high ground approach didn’t work, because it allowed Leftists to define what conservatives are. That’s why the youngest generation is so misinformed as to believe conservatives are fascist. They don’t know what conservatives stand for, and I doubt they know what fiscal conservatism even means.
Conservatives have to do better in communication.
Gorka loudly and emphatically called attention to the fact that Karem physically threatened him. He called him no journalist at all, but a punk. Is there any other way to describe someone who insults a group of people standing there in the Rose Garden, and then physically threatens his target who criticizes him?
This is notjournalism, but rather activism. A journalist reports the facts. Claiming conservatives desire demonic possession is beneath the standards of professional journalism.
Exhibit B is when the mainstream media selectively edited out what Karem said, changing the entire meaning of the situation.
Again, this is political activism, not journalism.
People targeted by political harassment have the right to stand up for themselves. I am happy that there was no violence. Hopefully, this will serve as a lesson to other activists not to harass people. Of course, that will only be true if the media is forced to show Karem’s threat.
Karem’s snarks, taunts and physical threats may have been an homage to Hunter S. Thompson, who had to the excuse of being “highly chemically enhanced” when he was being an ass on assignment for Rolling Stone.
It’s sad when journalists at the White House feel their activism (for any political cause) excuses them from the decorum ordinary citizens are expected to show in the President’s residence. Neither Gorka nor Karem would have lasted long as ordinary tourists in the White House, behaving as they did.
JT sums it up nicely with the following:
“What is equally troubling is that videos posted by outlets like the Washington Post and reported on cable cut out Karem’s unprofessional taunting and only showed Gorka’s boorish response:”
“The entire affair was a disgrace to both the White House and White House press corp. The fact that people immediately edited the tape to create false impressions only magnifies the concern over the state of our political and press values.”
(Karem should have kept his mouth shut, but Gorka would have done well to ignore Karem. Both of them look like jerks. What a circus…in the Rose Garden.)
Three Spots On The Wall, by Who Flung Foo.
This is the name of a book and it’s author.
We need to starting flinging foo.
It causes one to conjure the dynamics during “Crazy Abe” Lincoln’s “Reign of Terror” wherein men were forcibly conscripted to fight “Crazy Abe’s” wholly unnecessary war of Northern Aggression (no other nation in history ended slavery by war) or to pay a stand-in $300, printing presses were destroyed and publishers, opponents and protestors were thrown in prison bereft of the benefits of Habeas Corpus, “elections” were “fixed” by “Crazy Abe’s” armies, innocent Southern civilian women and children were abused, molested, raped, killed, their possessions stolen and their civilian structures and farm sources of food burned to the ground and totally destroyed and, ultimately, “injurious” and unconstitutional “Reconstruction Amendments” were improperly ratified illegally and forcibly imposed.
“Desperate times call for desperate measures.”
– Hippocrates (derivation)
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“For extreme diseases, extreme methods of cure, as to restriction, are most suitable.”
– Hippocrates
Explain to me why you think that Conservatives should just take these attacks and turn the other cheek.
It’s the default of establishmentarians to be cruel to the kind and kind to the cruel, because it’s easier that way. In any case, in the faculty rathskellar, suggesting a deplorable has just cause to be exasperated marks you as one of ‘them’.
Sebastian Gorka. They’ve been afraid of this guy for a long time. He comes from a country where they know how to get busy.
And the most “conservatives” members of parliament are actually Nazis. This is what Kurtz apparently longs for.
OK, now I get it. Anon1 is one of those children who calls everyone they don’t like a Nazi.
Not worth bothering with this one anymore.
FFS, educate yourself on Hungarian politics, especially the Jobbik party.
Child, it’s time for your nap. You don’t have to actually go to sleep, just close your eyes and rest a little bit.
Grow up, FFS.
Yes, that’s what I’m trying to tell Anon1.
Thanks for the assist!
Thanks for proving his point. Jobbik has some rude characters in it, but then the Democratic Party’s got Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar.
You missed the point professor. The punk is the point and the media praised the punk.
The Pinko press constantly expresses outrage over Pres. Trump’s calling out “fake news”. This is just further proof that he has a point.
I think that most thinking people have come to recognize that they need to have numerous sources of news in order to be accurately informed.
If you go with a biased news source (regardless of viewpoint), you will get biased news. Unfortunately, this bias has shaded into propaganda for many of these sources.
Basically, many news people are liars and yet they maintain privileged positions with access to government.
This is a (necessary) flaw in our system and is a cost of the First Amendment – one that we can (and do) adapt to.
The only antidote is that we are consumers of news need to inform ourselves of the truth by being exposed to many viewpoints.
As an aside, I have noticed that many commentators on this site (especially the anonymous ones), have gotten more strident and antagonistic. I think that it is a reaction to being on a site that does not kowtow to their fascistic impulses.
The only antidote is that we are consumers of news need to inform ourselves of the truth by being exposed to many viewpoints.
MC,
It is glaringly apparent a large percentage of consumers of the news aren’t as concerned with the truth as they are in confirming their biases. We’ve seen it time and again on this blog where incontrovertible evidence is dismissed if it doesn’t conform to one’s “understanding” of the truth. That truth being one’s ideological worldview. I don’t know if it is an antidote, but somewhere along the line we’ve convinced people that human nature has improved with age. That misguided understanding leads people to ignore the lessons of history. And the result of course is we continue to repeat them.
Olly:
Very good points, but as a Conservative, I am an optimist.
I keep hoping that the more strident of our fellow commentators will occasionally stop and think.
I am also a conservative, but more of a realist than optimist. I follow this statement from the DoI:
all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
I’m optimistic our current long train of abuses will eventually reach that threshold for altering and/or abolishing whatever we’ve turned into. I’m a realist in that nothing I’ve seen gives me confidence it will happen in my lifetime.
No, you are a conservative and an optimist. One doesn’t flow from the other. They are parallel dispositions.
Beg to differ; Conservative philosophy is inherently optimistic.
It is nothing of the kind. Peter Viereck once defined conservative thought as ‘the political secularization of the doctrine of original sin’. Which is not an optimistic disposition.
Explain to me why you think that Conservatives should just take these attacks and turn the other cheek. I for one am dam sick and tired of attacks, numbering 3,4,5,or more, before we stand up and say NO MORE.
Not a victim, get over it