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Moore: Most White People Are “Not Good People” And Are Dangerous If Encountered On The Street

Filmmaker Michael Moore recently showed how polarizing our national dialogue has become over race. Moore declared that the vast majority of whites in this country “are not good people” and that others should “be afraid” of them in an interview on The Rolling Stone podcast “Useful Idiot.”

Moore’s rant itself would seem the very definition of racism. His view of the danger presented by white people appears entirely due to the fact that many voted for President Donald Trump:

“I refuse to participate in post-racial America. I refuse to say because we elected Obama that suddenly that means everything is okay, white people have changed. White people have not changed. Two-thirds of all white guys voted for Trump. That means anytime you see three white guys walking at you, down the street toward you, two of them voted for Trump. You need to move over to the other sidewalk because these are not good people that are walking toward you. You should be afraid of them.”

There are apparently a minority of white who are not raging racists who present imminent threats of physical harm. Those are whites “like him.” He noted that one of the three white people in his hypothetical group are like him and voted against Trump. He then added “We’re traitors to our race, that’s how they see us.”

Actually, most would view Moore as simply a racist as opposed to a traitor to race. Yet, Moore’s comments have not been denounced by The Rolling Stone or the media as racist. They are still part of the mainstream dialogue because they are directed at Trump supporters — much like Chuck Todd’s recent comments about Trump supporters wanting to be lied to are considered perfectly appropriate for a journalist.

Like Moore, I voted against Trump in 2016 but I find Moore’s comments deeply offensive and troubling. It is part of a view of roughly half of this country as simply borderline psychotic racists that someone has become a casual talking point in our media.

369 thoughts on “Moore: Most White People Are “Not Good People” And Are Dangerous If Encountered On The Street”

  1. I guess Michael Moore would count among his friends the black murderers and rapists who claim (documented) to be motivated get their own “reparations.”

  3. JT:

    Now, maybe you have a better sense of how Richard Sherman might have felt when you called him a thug and/or referred to his behavior as “thuggish.”

  4. Angelo Carusone is on this blog using the dozen or so fake names Peter Hill uses

    He targets this blog under Media Matters umbrella to undermine Trump support

    Exposed

    1. Anonymous, you are so comically far off it’s like a dark comedy. But you’re so into the conspiracy there’s no point in my denying it. My denials would only make it more real to you. And Tucker Carlson, of all people; a major source of ridiculous conspiracies.

      Again, this is what the Trump era has come to: ‘Far-fetched conspiracies involving racist gays’. And they’re using the same names as Peter Hill..!!

      Anonymous, if you knew who I really am and what I used to do (in my first career), the shock would lead to stroke. None of your assumptions are remotely close to any truth. It’s like mistaking a rudimentary drone for an alien spaceship.

      1. Anonymous @ 10:46 is another one of the idiot “regulars” who post here. He or she is a joke.

      3. ” if you knew who I really am and what I used to do (in my first career), the shock would lead to stroke.”

        Peter, let me guess. You were the water boy for the rich and famous until fired for incompetence.

  5. Typical of Allan:

    “The anonymous trash are trash without any self respect.”

    And not true.

    1. You really are pathetic with your infantile “Allan” exposure when many of use the same method to post on here

      you are the ass and we laugh at you

      1. “we laugh at you”

        so? do you think anyone with a backbone would care?

        and, sweetie? you’re the ass.

      2. Anonymous the stupid, you seem to think that multiple posts with the same thoughts are additive and show that you are intelligent. They don’t. You remain as Stupid as you were.

  6. FEATURED ON THIS THREAD:

    A GAY CONSPIRACY TO EMBARRASS PROFESSOR TURLEY

    Anonymous says: January 2, 2020 at 7:27 PM

    Peter / Angelo has contacted Professor Turley’s employer, George Washington University, in the past with threats. Peter / Angelo even broadcast it

    This is a case of the boy who cried wolf so, nah…. no one is going to care about Angelo’s “concerns”

    Tucker Carlson sends his regards. Not

    ps. thank you for encouraging us to use the anonymous outlet.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Anonymous:

    I don’t watch Tucker Carlson. So I have no idea on earth what you’re alluding to. And it fails to explain all the tasteless posts we’ve been seeing on this blog. In that regard your comment above becomes a stupid What About. You’re excusing tasteless comments with a What About concerning some plot by a ‘deviate’ known as Angelo.

    This conspiracy theory involving the shadowy Angelo illustrates where we are the Trump era. An allegedly gay conspirator justifies the need to keep gay-centric posts on the threads. Never mind if it makes no sense in the world. The fact that it’s a What About should explain it all.

    1. MORE ON GAY CONSPIRACY

      Anonymous says: January 2, 2020 at 7:22 PM

      ROFLMAO

      What a puzzy you are Angelo Carusone!!!
      Now we know who Peter really is!

      You slime conservative journalists who oppose your leftwing crapola, you threaten and put at risk the lives and careers of honorable Americans like Tucker Carlson and others, and yet you squeal like a gurl, a 37 year old rich gurl, when someone does the same to you. With the crap you have pulled on Darren and Professor Turley, you expect any of them to care about your “concerns”?

      What a puzzy. Does Brett know, bless her little heart?

      Don’t cry to us you little skank. Trump has taught us that the only way to fight the evil methods of your daddy, David Brock that she has been using for decades, is to do the same to you. And look at you scream

      bwahahahahaha

      Go back to East Meadow NY with your dozen or so profile names…and counting!!!! LOLOLOL
      ………………………………………………………………………………………………………

      This second post, more than the first, illustrates why Trump supporters have a terrible image among 60% of the public. It’s an angry paranoid tirade lacking rational basis. And it reflects the influence of Donald Trump.

    2. Angelo you have been exposed

      No more Peter and your pathetic 37 year old white privilege twink screeds

      No more attacking all on here with your lying sax of sheet ala DNC talking points

      you are exposed

      🖕🏾

  7. It isn’t just Michael Moore. Read it and laugh

    Hollywood Attacks Christians by Mocking Breitbart Readers

    In a desperate attempt to gin up some free publicity, the makers of Faith Based, a movie that mocks Christians and Christianity, felt they had to target Breitbart News readers.

    Not Breitbart News.

    Not the people who work at Breitbart News.

    No, our readers. You know, the everyday people who comment here, specifically those who commented on this story from all the way back in July.

    Obviously this attack on Breitbart readers is bait. The makers of Faith Based want some free publicity from us, so rather than release an actual trailer (trailers cost money), they put together a video where the movie’s stars (Funny or Die regulars Luke Barnett and Tanner Thomason) read comments from Breitbart (and Fox News) and then respond to those comments with the awkward pauses and confused asides that pass for wit nowadays.

    Yes, we thought about not taking the bait, about ignoring it, but everything about the movie and this attack on our readers is so mean-spirited and bigoted (I’ll take that back if the sequel is about Islam or Hindus or Obama worshipers), we decided it was worthwhile to shine a spotlight on yet another example of Hollywood’s lazy hate and intolerance toward people who dare to be different from them.

    Faith Based is directed by Vincent Masciale and written by Barnett, both of whom I’ve never heard of but were associated with the failed Funny or Die website. It’s the story of two failed filmmakers (sounds prophetic) who make a film about Christianity on the premise that “faith-based” films are “extremely profitable and set out on a mission to make one of their own.”

    The movie also stars Lance Reddick, Margaret Cho, and Jason Alexander, who played Brian Stelter on the classic sitcom Seinfeld for nine seasons.

  8. JOHNATHAN TURLEY READ YOUR COMMENT THREADS

    Some time back I compared Donald Trump to a bad actor on set. He isn’t dealing with events in the scene. Which looks phony to viewers.

    Trump should have acknowledged Russian Interference before he took office. It should have been in his inaugural speech. Be dealing with that issue, early on, Trump would have been responding to an obvious concern. Good actors deal with obvious concerns.

    Now Professor Turley ventures into the realm of Bad Actor ignoring events in the scene. For several months certain commenters keep posting gay-centric replies in the misguided belief they are shaming other commenters. And the obvious victim is Professor Turley. His blog now looks dubious because tasteless posts keep appearing on the comment threads.

    Because Professor Turley is the victim here, I have formally warned him several times with attached photos of comments. It was my wish he knew exactly what was happening. Yet these same tasteless comments have become a ‘staple’ of this blog. And The Moderator appears to assist the commenters most frequently linked to these posts.

    These events make Professor Turley the bad actor on stage ignoring events. He keeps writing columns in which Trump supporters are unfairly portrayed. Yet Pro-Trump Commenters on Turley’s blog routinely post comments on the level of high school bullies. And really stupid bullies too! Like, “Yeah, I’m dumb as a cave man but that’s what makes me cool”.

    Here’s the latest, Professor Turley. You should notice these Replies. How do they make you feel? ..Are you okay with this..? It looks bad when you ignore. We as readers wonder why you don’t mind.

    Anonymous says: January 2, 2020 at 4:06 PM

    says the dirty skank bottom boy beatchy queen

    How is Brett?

    1. Darren deletes plenty of other innocuous comments, but leaves something like that.

      You could send Jonathan an email.

      1. Peter / Angelo has contacted Professor Turley’s employer, George Washington University, in the past with threats. Peter / Angelo even broadcast it

        This is a case of the boy who cried wolf so, nah…. no one is going to care about Angelo’s “concerns”

        Tucker Carlson sends his regards. Not

        ps. thank you for encouraging us to use the anonymous outlet.

        1. I guess that Michael Moore got it right, judging by comments like the one by Anonymous at 7:27 pm.

          Many of those who post here complain about anonymous comments, but we see that they are happy to post anonymous comments when it suits them.

          1. translation: “I hate it when they use my strategies by going anonymous”

                1. Yup

                  yeah, this is the kindgeraten’s sandbox of “my daddy can beat up your daddy”

                  this is what going anonymous does….cowards galore

                  1. Nope.

                    Anonymous @ 8 pm needs to grow up like most of the people who live on this blog.

            2. Everyone should post anonymously. I could not care less.

              I’ve never complained about people posting anonymously, but hypocrisy is on full display by those who complain about anonymous comments but use the “anonymous” designation when it suits them.

                1. Nope, it’s a good thing. Keep it up. No one should care about anonymous comments.

                  1. “Nope, it’s a good thing. Keep it up. No one should care about anonymous comments.”

                    Quite the contrary. A bit of context and understanding is lost when more than one person posts under one name. It’s actually a nasty thing to do to the one who owns the blog and to all those that read the comments. It is an immature way of acting and in a way is frequently sociopathic.. If you don’t realize it then you fall to the level of Anonymous the Stupid.

                    1. Freedom of speech, baby. I think you were blabbering about it earlier. @ Allan at 8:24

                    2. “Freedom of speech, baby. I think you were blabbering about it earlier. @ Allan at 8:24”

                      You make a lot of assumptions that aren’t true.

                      1) This is a private blog therefore your freedom of speech is provided by the list owner Jonathan Turley and your Freedom of Speech can be denied by the same owner.

                      2) Just because you have Freedom of Speech doesn’t make what you say be proper or correct. You can mutter away meaninglessly.

                      3) One would think that when getting something for free the least you would do is take the time to get a name. On this blog you are free not to, but that just makes you a jerk.

                    3. It’s not a chat room, Allan, so for most normal people — people who actually have something more do with their lives than hang out here — anonymous comments aren’t a problem.

                      “It is an immature way of acting and in a way is frequently sociopathic..”

                      Only in the little minds of the not-very-bright people who live here.

                    4. Anonymous the Stupid, are you so blatantly ignorant of what you read that you don’t recognize that I didn’t call this a chat room? I don’t think you need answer. We all know that you are ignorant and incompetent.

                2. Anonymous @ 7:58 has demonstrated that his or her reading comprehension skills are limited.

        2. ANOTHER INSANE POST

          Anonymous:

          I don’t watch Tucker Carlson. So I have no idea on earth what you’re alluding to. And it fails to explain all the tasteless posts we’ve been seeing on this blog. In that regard your post above becomes a stupid What About. You’re excusing tasteless comments with a What About concerning some plot by a ‘deviate’ known as Angelo.

          This conspiracy theory involving the shadowy Angelo illustrates where we are the Trump era. An allegedly gay conspirator justifies the need to keep gay-centric posts on the threads. Never mind if it makes no sense in the world. The fact that it’s a What About should explain it all.

      2. I have just attempted to post and then repost two identical comments about the belief that Darren deletes innocuous comments.
        Since this is short comment, I’ll type it for the third time and try pisti g it again.
        While there are a few people who believe that they are being specifically targeted by Darren when there is a non- posting or disappearing comment, a broad spectrum of people have commented about this problem that occasionally pops up.
        I suspect that WordPress does not always function properly, and there may be other technical issues involved.
        I could join the others who feel that Darren is targeting them, but it’s far more likely that these comment sections don’t always function properly.

        1. WordPress has it’s problems, but if you believe that it’s all about WordPress then you haven’t been paying attention.

          1. Anonymous at 8:41 PM,
            Yes, I have been paying attention. I covered some of the reasons why these nonpostings/ deletions of comments appear to be random, not “aimed” at a few individuals.
            I mention these things because this accusation ( that Darren is picking on a few commentators to stack the deck) keeps resurfacing.
            I think most people understand that these comment sections do not always work properly.
            There are a relative few who “know” that it’s “just them” being singled out, but that just seems to be run of the mill whining.

            1. I will add a bit to my 9:33 PM comment.
              Years ago, I worked in a facility that employed about 150.
              There were hundreds of similar facilities in the U.S. and abroad, and the company had about 50,000 employees
              There was a particular individual who had this idea that everything was about him.
              One co-worker joked that if the company ever shut down that facility, or the entire company went under, that this guy would be convinced that it all happened because they were targeting HIM.

              1. Nope. I’ve seen it happen to several people who comment here. That isn’t to say the WordPress might not a factor, as well. But there’s more to it.

                1. Anonymous at 10:22 PM
                  What you may have missed is that a number of people have commented about malfunctions in posting comments.
                  Also, not everyone who experiences these glitches makes a issue of it, or even mentions the issue.
                  Since this appears to be a broad based problem, it may appear that the few “squeeky wheels” who are frequently complaining about it are unique.
                  I’ve rarely if ever mentioned the numerous problems I’ve encountered in posting comments. The reason I’m doing it now is to counter the mistaken belief that it’s just a “select few” having problems because of some kind of plots against them.

                    1. “Only the blog moderators would know for sure”.
                      That’s probably correct. However, I had one comment deleted because of a typo…..the letter change completely and unintentionally changed the meaning of the intended word to a “forbidden” word.
                      I had one other comment deleted when I used that kind of a word intentionally in a comment to a “deserving” recipient.
                      In both cases, I got a “your comment is in moderation notice” and/ or “your comment has been deleted”.
                      If the comment just fails to post or just disappears for no apparent reason, those notices do not appear.
                      So there is another way to determine if a WordPress filter or moderator intervened, or if it’s just another one of the site’s glitches.
                      Those few who complain the most about being unfairly singled out have not, to my knowledge, specified if they got that kind of a notice, or if it’s just another case of a glitch.

        2. Anonymous, I’d like to think our Moderator acts in good faith. But why are these tasteless posts allowed to remain while responses to them disappear? A fair broker of a Moderator would want prune the tasteless stuff and make sure it doesn’t come back.

          1. My goodness. The arrogance of some people. This is a free blog that someone else pays for. There are no advertisements and no employees that are paid to do the work you want them to do. You don’t even have the respect for the owner that provides your entertainment or self respect to assume one alias.

            Grow up.

              1. I guess you like others to work for you for free as well. They might be able to clean up after you but they can’t do your thinking. Stupidity is unavoidable in your case.

                  1. “Standard crap from Allan.”

                    But your Stupidity remains and you are the one working for others probably being paid more than you are worth. Put down the comic strips and read a book.

    2. ROFLMAO

      What a puzzy you are Angelo Carusone!!!
      Now we know who Peter really is!

      You slime conservative journalists who oppose your leftwing crapola, you threaten and put at risk the lives and careers of honorable Americans like Tucker Carlson and others, and yet you squeal like a gurl, a 37 year old rich gurl, when someone does the same to you. With the crap you have pulled on Darren and Professor Turley, you expect any of them to care about your “concerns”?

      What a puzzy. Does Brett know, bless her little heart?

      Don’t cry to us you little skank. Trump has taught us that the only way to fight the evil methods of your daddy, David Brock that she has been using for decades, is to do the same to you. And look at you scream

      bwahahahahaha

      Go back to East Meadow NY with your dozen or so profile names…and counting!!!! LOLOLOL

    3. Peter, you have some pretty grand delusions. Cure those delusions. What you say is worth cr-p.

      1. Allan, you have some pretty grand delusions. Cure those delusions. What you say is worth crap.

        1. Anonymous the Stupid. You still haven’t developed your own voice and are too reliant on others. When will you develop your own imagination?

          1. Allan, you have some pretty grand delusions. Cure thos delusions. What you say is worth crap.

  9. > Moore declared that the vast majority of whites in this country “are not good people”

    Moore didn’t come close to saying that, though what he said was bad enough.

    Two people who should say less in 2020: Michael Moore and Jonathan Turley.

  11. The Democrats are bleeding to death

    Bwahahahaha

    …..

    There is a higher probability of a contested Democratic convention this year and the race for the nomination will be “a lot closer than what people think,” according to a 2016 campaign staffer for Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

    Appearing Thursday on “Fox & Friends: First” with host Heather Childers, Tezlyn Figaro said that superdelegates have lost a lot of the “power” they had in 2016 because “it leaned so far towards Hillary Clinton” and – as a result – the Democratic National Convention (DNC) “limited” their influence.

    Foxnews

  12. JT linked to this:

    “Michael Moore on Useful Idiots, Interview Only Pt. 1”

  15. “White Supremacist Augustus Invictus Kidnapped Wife at Gunpoint: Cops”

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-supremacist-augustus-invictus-kidnapped-wife-at-gunpoint-cops

    “White supremacist Augustus Sol Invictus allegedly kidnapped his wife at gunpoint in front of their children and forced her to travel across state lines, according to police records.

    Invictus, who legally changed his name from Austin Gillespie, was arrested Monday in Florida on counts of kidnapping, aggravated domestic violence, and possession of a firearm during a crime. The incident began in Rock Hill, South Carolina, on Dec. 12, when he allegedly put a gun to his wife’s head and forced her to travel to Florida with him. She was later able to escape back to South Carolina, where she spoke with police.

    Invictus is a prominent white supremacist and was a speaker at 2017’s deadly Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. He is also a lawyer and failed political candidate, and has been involved in arranging legal defense for other members of the movement.”

  16. “You can’t handle the truth!”

    – Colonel Jessup
    ______________

    Communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats) in Ameirca can’t handle the truth that America and Americans were intended to be and are free. Discrimination is a freedom retained by the People. All conceivable, natural and/or God-given rights, freedoms, privileges and immunities are retained by the American people, per the 9th Amendment. Government and any and all forms of dictatorship are severely limited and restricted by the Constitution.

    Abraham Lincoln was the treasonous, illegal and unconstitutional American inflection point. Abraham Lincoln was an aberration which won 1860 with 38.9% of the vote (a la Hitler) and 1864 with brute military force. Lincoln illegally and unconstitutionally seized power, neutralized the legislative and judicial branches, subjugated the People and ruled by executive order and proclamation. Lincoln eliminated classes from society and set America on a “Progressive” path to communism (The frog, after being placed in cold water, was cooked before he understood that the temperature was being mortally raised). Lincoln destroyed freedom, free enterprise and the Founders’ America.

    America must, and has a moral obligation to, abrogate all of the principles of communism improperly and unconstitutionally imposed by Lincoln, his successors and the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats), and to re-implement the “original intent” and the original state and status of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, expunging all improperly ratified and unconstitutional “amendments” that “injure” the Constitution, which was admonished against by James Madison (Lincoln not only “injured” but killed the Constitution).
    ___________

    “…not injure the constitution,…”

    ” And if there are amendments desired, of such a nature as will not injure the constitution, and they can be ingrafted so as to give satisfaction to the doubting part of our fellow citizens; the friends of the federal government will evince that spirit of deference and concession for which they have hitherto been distinguished.”

    – James Madison, Proposed Amendments to the Constitution, June 8, 1789
    ___________________________________________________________

    “…free white person,…”

    NATURALIZATION ACTS OF 1790, 1795, 1798 AND 1802.

    United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,” March 26, 1790

    “Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof…”
    ___________________________________________

    General requirements to vote, 1789:

    Male

    European

    Age 21

    Vested – 50 lbs. Sterling or 50 acres
    _____________________________

    9th Amendment

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

  17. by the way guys if you think “all young people” are voting against Trump, that’s a joke, I know plenty who like Trump and I’m getting them registered, thank you

    guess what. there’s some Asians who like him too. sorry guys there are even immigrants who have come to like Trump as they’ve made hand over fist money the past few years.

  18. While Moore might have had the numbers wrong, he’s close and too close for comfort. FOX and the far-right have made dividing America a national pastime. Look at the number of people after 8 years of Obama that thought he was not even a American. You think that hate came from people of color? White Americans have been told for years to be a afraid, very afraid of change. Not to long ago, they were told blacks were after their jobs, just in the past they were told Europeans was going to be the end of life as they knew it, now they are told thru FOX and Trump it’s Latin America. White America has a built-up resentment of any minority. Don’t believe me, just go to Trump rallies with a CNN or Black Public Media banner and see the reception you get. Most Americans that read Michael Moore know he can, and has gone off a bit time to time, but on this case he’s not entirely wrong either.

    1. Fishwings, Turley is coming from a place where Americans are supposed to completely ignore every Trump rally. All those angry harangues Trump has improvised, for overwhelmingly White audiences, are not supposed to count when assessing his record on race relations. The fact that Trump has repeatedly demonized Mexicans, for instance, should be totally put-aside when evaluating Trump’s impact on America.

      1. Mexicans, not every single one but as a group, actually have come here and committed a disproportionate amount of certain crimes. So you can call that racist but it may also be factual.

        And guess what if yuppie boomer lilly white liberals knew a few Mexicans maybe you would find out most of them know it too. Ditto some other sectors from which the ivory towers secludes itself.

        1. A lot of vague BS that is not true; at least pogo makes up stats to back up his ignorance.

      2. The fact that Trump has repeatedly demonized Mexicans,

        He didn’t, of course. He pointed out that Mexico ‘was not sending us their best’. For ordinary human beings, remarking that the illegal alien stream consists of people of lower calibre than the general run of the sending or receiving population is a sociological observation. For gentry liberals, it’s an assertion that contradicts the strata of value insisted upon by gentry liberals, which itself incorporates the pretension that value is to be determined by a clerisy composed of gentry liberals. Illegal aliens are Mascots of the Anointed, and deplorables are contravening the social order by arguing with it and maintaining that the mascots are not to be preferred to the people despised by the liberal clerisy. This is what is meant by ‘racist’ and ‘demonizing’. It’s all humbug, of course, and at some level someone smarter than Shill (Enigma perhaps, or Anon1 / JanF) may understand this.

        1. I would find your statements more convincing if all of this attention were not focused exclusively on the southern border. Our northern border is also a significant gateway for drugs and crime, and a large number of illegal immigrants are people who come here legally and overstay their visas, but all of the energy is focused on preventing the brown hordes from the south from overrunning us. It’s a time-honored electoral tactic of scapegoating the foreign other, especially when they are darker than we are.

          The Trump Administration’s declarations about focusing on illegal immigration would also be more convincing if it were not at the same time trying to reduce the numbers of legal immigrants to the U.S., especially from countries deemed undesirable. This includes people who are bona fide refugees.

          Finally, Trump has also insinuated that a federal judge was biased against him because he was of Mexican heritage.

          The overwhelming message is that, when it comes to Latin America, there is no “best,” and we don’t want any of them.

          1. I would find your statements more convincing if all of this attention were not focused exclusively on the southern border. Our northern border is also a significant gateway for drugs and crime,

            It’s focused on the southern border because the northern border is challenging to cross and the only way to reach Canada is through choke points at airports and seaports. You need to tell your handlers to send less obvious humbug.

            The Trump Administration’s declarations about focusing on illegal immigration would also be more convincing if it were not at the same time trying to reduce the numbers of legal immigrants to the U.S., especially from countries deemed undesirable. This includes people who are bona fide refugees.

            I gather you’re handlers told you to pretend there was a logical contradiction between reducing illegal immigration and reducing legal immigration.

            There are, of course, almost no bona fide refugees arriving in this country. The only countries proximate to the United States which have been bloc refugee generators in the last 60 years have been Cuba and Haiti.

            You people would be more persuasive if you weren’t blatantly dishonest.

            1. And yet, nothing you have said contradicts the last sentence of what I posted.

            2. not the only way. Peace Arch State Park. is unblocked and unmonitored.

              mostly asians making the crossing back and forth there, in either direction. which is why, neither the Canada nor US are too worried because it’s not Mexicans.

              Let’s just get real., Not all nations are equal. Just grow up and deal with reality folks. Some migrants are more desirable than others.

          2. J Robinson. The reality is the Canada US illegal border crossing are an Asian specialty and neither the US nor Canada is worried about Asians, for the simple fact based reason that (East) Asians tend to be very industrious and peaceful people, person for person, compared to Mexicans or Hondurans or Haitians or Africans etc. This is a broad demographic fact and mostly everybody knows it, and just won’t say for fear of being called racist.

            And yet statistics make this plain to anyone who can interpret them with honesty.

            Of course if you want to point out differences between national groups in Asia, the facts become even more racist, showing that the darker groups of Asians under-perform the lighter national groups socially, but, hey, let’s all just pretend what’s not completely obvious, isn’t.

            1. You’re essentially proving the point that the current anti-immigration push is selectively racist. And you’re doing it by making generalizations about various ethnicities. Well done.

              And just for the record, no, “most everybody” doesn’t “know it.”

              1. yeah well “J” I could really give a crud what you think. I could care less about people calling me names. And guess what– that’s a million more people like me year after year.

                Any native who isn’t a fool, when faced with a choice to accept a generic migrant from say China versus Mozambique, would pick the Chinese. Now of course most natives probably don’t want them whatsoever, from wheresoever, that’s another truth i can say, and you can deny.

          3. We all got the message but some here have to pretend they didn’t. Probably of Norwegian ancestry and don’t live in s..t holes like Baltimore and San Francisco (who knew?). Probably live in a paradise like Appalachia, Meth County Nebraska, or Oxyville Indiana.

        2. Europe and China did not send us “it’s best” in the 19th century including most likely my and TIAs ancestors, if by best we mean educated and established . If by best we mean ambitious and hard working, though tired and poor, yeah, that’s what we got and are getting.

          1. I figure anyone who has the fortitude to walk to Texas from Central America is probably pretty ambitious and hard working.

            1. you fool, they don’t walk the whole way,. they hitch rides on buses, trains, etc.

            2. The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.

              Just another figure who had the fortitude to walk and was proven to be pretty ambitious and hard working.

              Genghis Khan

                1. Olly, have you noted that all of a sudden YNOT pops up to provide a Stupid reply to all those that disagree with him regardless of context? I don’t think he has ever added anything to the blog. He’s totally worthless.

                  1. I don’t think he has ever added anything to the blog.

                    Every blog has its cast of characters contributing more or less to the dialog. YNOT has never performed on this blog as part of the cast. He is more like the crazy homeless guy that wandered in an open door and he cannot find his way out. He’s harmless. Every time he mumbles something, I imagine him with his name (TONY) tattooed across his forehead, staring in a mirror. 😉

      3. Seth Warner, you may be right, and he alone can turn this country back to it once was…A frozen barren wasteland.

    2. Fishwings, get away from the mirror. Stop telling us what you see.in the mirror.

    3. I can understand why Fishwings is impressed with the sayings of a slob like Michael Moore.

  19. “Michael Moore on Trump, 2020 & Why “the Old, Angry White Guy” Doesn’t Represent the Working Class”

  20. DID TURLEY REALLY VOTE AGAINST TRUMP?

    This stands out from above: “Like Moore, I voted against Trump in 2016 but I find Moore’s comments deeply offensive and troubling”.

    Theoretically Professor Turley could be making this claim for the sake of appearances. He might feel his opinions carry more weight if he can bill himself as a non-partisan. But does such a thing really exist at Turley’s level: ‘prominent legal scholor’?

    It’s strains the imagination to think that a man as political as Turley didnt see the stark contrasts between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Are to believe that Turley voted for Jill Stein, or Gary-what’s-his-name, the Libertarian candidate? Somehow that’s hard to picture.

    If Johnathan Turley honestly didn’t vote for Donald Trump, he is surely allowing himself to be seen as a Trump defender. ‘Is that good for business’? Only time will tell. Possibly Turley might regret that he assumed that role. But if he honestly didnt vote for Trump, it seems peculiar that Turley would risk future blowback for being a Trump apologist.

    1. Peter – he didn’t vote for Hillary, he voted against Trump. You have to learn lawyer speak.

        1. Anonymous at 2:17 PM,
          When comparing Turley’s credibility and integrity with that of “Seth”, it’s not difficult to determine who to believe.
          Seth has neither. He fails around with his flaky assumptions thinking he’s somehow an effective advocate.
          Brock needs to feed him much better material, or he should look for another master to serve.

          1. For the most part, I ignore “Seth.” I ignore the comments of several others, as well.

          1. Mr. Schulte,
            I take him at his word that he did not vote for Trump, and don’t know or care who ( if anyone) he marked as his choice in 2016.
            Mainly, I was responding to a slug like “Seth” questioning Turley’s word on that.
            And then trying to bulud some Natacha- like premise around that.

          2. “Paul C Schulte says:January 2, 2020 at 3:11 PM
            Anonymous – if he had voted for Hillary, he would have said so.”

            Now, Mr. Schulte, you’re jumping to conclusions.

            1. Anonymous – there is another way to take JT’s statement. He voted against Trump, hence he did not vote for Hillary. Or, if JT were a Hillary supporter, he would have said, I voted for Hillary. It is lawyerly weasel words.

                1. Anonymous – you are absolutely correct. However, I was commenting on the way JT stated it. 😉

                  1. Yeah, I concur, lawyer talk. I laughed when I saw it, doesn’t mean he voted for Hill. He could have wrote in Garfield or Snoopy.

      2. PCS,

        Mr. Shill is stealthy. One can’t be too careful.

        Mr. Shill must be all in a tizzy after Professor Turley ended the practice of giving free publicity to visitors with the highest number of comments in the Good Professor’s STATE OF THE BLOG (2019) article.

    2. Possibly Seth/ Peter/ Phillip/ Burgoyne/ Acland will regret making asinine assumptions, but I doubt it.

      1. Anonymous, we don’t ‘what’ assumptions you have made since you’re afraid to use your name. Talk about hypocrisy!

        1. I’ll stick with anonymous for the time being, Seth/ Peter/ Phillip/ Acland/ Burgoyne. And no one can ever accuse you of it using your real names—–all of them.
          But getting back to my main point, you/ them are willing to make wild and asinine accusations and assumptions if you think you might be able to score points.
          That’s one of the reasons why you and that other loon, Natacha, are so popular.

          1. It’s good to know that Anonymous @ 2:37 is wasting his time, breath, and life here — a place where he can’t do any damage — or any good.

          2. Anonymous, you’ll stick with ‘Anonymous’ because you obviously lack the fortitude to engage in real debates. You’re just a weasly, gutless Trumper like most of the commenters here.

            1. 1) Several people post as “Anonymous.”
              2) I’m not “a Trumper.” I didn’t vote for Trump.
              3) Get over yourself and get a life. The same goes for most of those who live here.

            2. Shill,
              Did you ever figure out the reason you were always caught first when playing Hide & Seek was because putting your hands over your eyes wasn’t hiding? Not much different than you pretending you’re not anonymous because you use fake user names. Unless you provide the information to identify who you really are, you’re anonymous.

              And for heaven’s sake, all of us are interfacing on a blog; just stop with the juvenile weasely & gutless claims. Geez.

                    4. Olly, those that have reasonable intelligence on the blog whether they agree with you or not respect you. The anonymous trash are trash without any self respect.

                  2. Olly, you need to take it down a notch for it to appropriate for the intellectual age of the anonymous you’re trying to communicate with.
                    That particular anonymous slithers on to this site occasionally with one or two sentence nonsense, usually whining about slighting his heroes ( Seth/ Phillip/ Peter/ Acland/ Natacha/ Burgouyne).

            3. Anonymous at 4:02 PM,
              I didn’t vote for Trump either, but I think it makes Seth/ Peter/ Phillip/ Acland/Burgoyne feel better
              if he feels he’s being victimized by Trump supporters.
              And I’m making a New Year’s Resolution to summon up the “fortitude” of Seth the Brave.😄

      1. If they say they voted against Trump it means they voted for somebody.

        If they say I did not vote in favor of so and so, the winner, such as trump, then it may mean they did not vote at all.

    4. “Theoretically Professor Turley could be making this claim for the sake of appearances. He might feel his opinions carry more weight if he can bill himself as a non-partisan.”

      Peter, not everyone is or acts like a Eunuch. You can’t stand the fact that some on the center left won’t lie, cheat and steal like those you run with.

      1. Professor Turley needs to find an unbiased moderator. Comments like the one at 3:37 pm by “Allan” wouldn’t be deleted.

        2. Anonymous the Stupid, you keep proving the Stupid part. Reread your comment and learn how to use negatives.

          By the way there was nothing wrong with what I said. It was all true. Go home to mommy and daddy and yell at them for providing you with an insufficient education.

        3. Correction:

          Comments like the one at 3:37 pm by “Allan” WOULD be deleted.

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