Professor Chris Edelson, assistant professor of government at American University, has penned an opinion column calling for President Trump to resign or be impeachment for his handling of the coronavirus crisis. It is just the latest in a long line of such impeachment theories that reflect a fundamental misconception of the function and standard for the removal of an American President.
Edelson has concluded that it is now “essential” to force Trump’s resignation or removal “[a]t each stage, he has lied, he has created confusion, he has made reckless predictions, and he has, once and for all, demonstrated his manifest unfitness to serve.” Edelson offers a series of a conclusory statements to support this conclusion like “it is so plainly the right thing to do” or it is clear that “Donald Trump cannot do his job.” Thus, “[i]n a functioning system, elected officials from both major political parties would call for the president’s resignation, and he would be forced to leave office or face impeachment and removal through the constitutional process.”
Such an impeachment would be facially abusive and baseless. Impeachment is not means to remove a president who you are dissatisfied with the performance of a president. As I have previously written, critics have largely misrepresented the standard as a type of no-confidence vote. The Edelson column reflects the continued disregard of the history and text of the impeachment provisions to avoid precisely what he has suggested.
However, Edelson’s call for impeachment or removal is nothing new. Not only did he support past impeachment calls, but, just a couple months into the Trump presidency, he was advocating a Rube-Golberg-like process to force a new vote on the presidency before the Trump family was actually all living at the White House. In that column, Edelson simply declared that “after just two months, there is no question that the Donald Trump presidency is an unmitigated disaster.” So here is what he suggested:
“Here’s how it could work: Each chamber of Congress, the House and the Senate, would have to vote by a two-thirds majority to hold a special election. three-quarters of state legislatures would have to ratify the amendment. The amendment would call for a one time special election, allowing qualified political parties (the Republicans and Democrats, and other parties who can meet a threshold to qualify for the ballot) one month to choose a nominee and then one month for a general election, to be held on a national holiday. The amendment would make clear this is a one-time event. After the election is held, we would revert to pre-existing constitutional procedures, for example, with a presidential election held every four years. The amendment could also provide for a national unity government to occupy the executive branch while the short election campaign goes on.”
As wacky as that proposal may seem, it still thrills many readers. Removal has become a rallying point for rage and it does not matter that the subject of impeachment has changed from opposing NFL kneelers to disproven Russian collusion to Charlottesville to the Coronavirus. The premise is the same: we must remove Trump as an existential threat. Another premise is that we need a “new constitution” which Edelson often demands because the constitutional standard and process did not allow for the removal of Trump.
Edelson and others have called for the type of impulse impeachments that the Framers feared in drafting the Constitution. This is the thrust of his call for removal that has remained consistent from two months after the election to the present day: “In calling for Trump’s resignation we are refusing to accept the assumption that Trump exists outside of normal rules. We know he isn’t up to the job.” Thus, the “new constitution” that Edelson has demanded would allow for such cathartic measures whenever a majority opposed a president because he “isn’t up to the job.” Imagine if Republicans had that unfettered option with Obama. Would Edelson be praising the power of removal in that case? Edelson and his supporters believe that nation would be more stable and stronger with the ability to remove presidents on such a fluid, facile standard.
Edelson is also a Fellow at the Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies and holds a B.A. from Brandeis University and a J.D. Harvard Law School.
A CASE FOR NEGLIGENCE
Trump’s Criminal Response To Pandemic
What Follows is an abbreviated timeline chronicling Trump’s mismanagement of our national emergency. For purposes of editing, this timeline begins several weeks into the pandemic.
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Late February:
Trump seemed largely uninterested in the global virus statistics during this period, but there were other indicators — stock-market indexes — that mattered a lot to him. And by the last week of February, those market indexes were falling.
He criticized CNN and MSNBC for “panicking markets.” He said at a South Carolina rally — falsely — that “the Democrat policy of open borders” had brought the virus into the country. He lashed out at “Do Nothing Democrat comrades.” He tweeted about “Cryin’ Chuck Schumer,” mocking Schumer for arguing that Trump should be more aggressive in fighting the virus. The next week, Trump would blame an Obama administration regulation for slowing the production of test kits. There was no truth to the charge.
Throughout late February, Trump also continued to claim the situation was improving. On Feb. 26, he said: “We’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” On Feb. 27, he predicted: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” On Feb. 29, he said a vaccine would be available “very quickly” and “very rapidly” and praised his administration’s actions as “the most aggressive taken by any country.” None of these claims were true.
By the end of February, there were 85,403 confirmed cases, in 55 countries around the world.
Early March:
Trump suggested on multiple occasions that the virus was less serious than the flu. “We’re talking about a much smaller range” of deaths than from the flu, he said on March 2. “It’s very mild,” he told Hannity on March 4. On March 7, he said, “I’m not concerned at all.” On March 10, he promised: “It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”
The first part of March was also when more people began to understand that the United States had fallen behind on testing, and Trump administration officials responded with untruths.Continue reading the ma
Alex Azar, the secretary of health and human services, told ABC, “There is no testing kit shortage, nor has there ever been.” Trump, while touring the C.D.C. on March 6, said, “Anybody that wants a test can get a test.”
That C.D.C. tour was a microcosm of Trump’s entire approach to the crisis. While speaking on camera, he made statements that were outright wrong, like the testing claim. He brought up issues that had nothing to do with the virus, like his impeachment. Trump also suggested that he knew as much as any scientist:
I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.
On March 10, the World Health Organization reported 113,702 cases of the virus in more than 100 countries.
Mid March And Beyond:
On the night of March 11, Trump gave an Oval Office address meant to convey seriousness. It included some valuable advice, like the importance of hand-washing. But it also continued many of the old patterns of self-congratulation, blame-shifting and misinformation. Afterward, Trump aides corrected three different misstatements.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/opinion/trump-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
Paint Chips, Trump put a ban on Chinese travel while that same media mocked him and called hin a racist. I don’t believe we needed to see such a collapse of the markets but that I believe is what the left and the media wanted. A lot of people have been hurt by that but the left doesn’t care.
Whatever Trump does is bad , whatever Trump doesn’t should have been done. Anything to get at Trump without concern for the nation or its citizens. Did the media applaud Trump for his China ban? Of course not. Did they applaud him for his Europe ban? Of course not. They complained it was political and complained that he was playing games with the UK and the EU. That the CDC was trying to determine where the problems were coming from and banning those countries, according to the media had nothing to do with it. The media got its wish and the spike in the virus in the UK led to a travel ban from the UK. None of this was political but most of what the mainstream media said and you say is.
How do you think those virus’s spread to those 100 countries. It started in Wuhan China and travellers from China passed the viruses to those countries so don’t you think it was pretty stupid for the media to object to Trump’s ban on travellers from China? That is something you will not focus on. You prefer being door-nob dumb so you can act like a Monday morning quarterback.
We don’t know how hard we will be hit. The big fear right now is that if it hits too fast hospitals will be overloaded and you can guess what that means so we have to slow it down and that is what we are seeing right now. We have seen a hard hitting virus in some places and in other places though present not as deadly. One question is, is the virus mutating and becoming less deadly. The virus is hitting immunocompromised people and the elderly the worst. A lot of young people don’t even know they have had it.
I’m going to make a prediction right now, not for you because your mind is too wrapped up in political intrigue so that you aren’t even aware of what is happening. My prediction is that when this is over we will have had more deaths from the regular flu than we have from this particular Corona virus. The hysteria is partially from the unknown, partially from its rapid transmission and partially from the media. In the end the death toll won’t be as high as would warrant such an economic collapse all over.
Yeah, Allan, just for giggles, I tuned into Hannity last night, and he went overboard praising Trump for banning travel from China. I didn’t write down verbatim all of the shockingly false claims about saving lives or being the most-significant life-saving thing anyone had ever done in the history of mankind (or words to that effect), but even you disciples should be able to see the agenda here. Anonymous’s comments above are accurate and display a pattern of arrogance, lack of leadership and deep stupidity that should be disqualifying. All Trump cares about is looking successful, so he begins by lying about projections. No doctor ever told him that 15 cases would soon be 0, or that this crisis would end by April, or that a vaccine would be available “very soon”, or that there would be tests for everyone who wants one. He just made these things up.
Allan speaks of “hysteria”. There is indeed fear in this country because we have a reality TV performer who has proven he will lie to us to try to make himself look good and will say literally anything to try to goose the economy. We have no coordinated national plan for addressing this crisis, and the federal government refuses to even help with the anticipated shortage of ventilators. States and localities are on their own to try to figure out what to do. Those things do scare people.
Trump and his disciples keep pivoting to point to seasonal influenza, as if that has any relevance to COVID 19,which it doesn’t. COVID-19 is far more virulent and has a higher risk of death. Morbidity and mortality from influenza do not in any manner mitigate Trump’s incompetence, his lying, the effects of dismantling the rapid response team, or his lack of vision or leadership, all of which have made this crisis much worse. I want to know why he won’t just shut up and go away. Every time he gets on the airwaves, the market takes another dive.
Allan criticizes the “media” for causing hysteria. The only media that deserve criticism are Fox News, Breitbart, Limbaugh, Mark Levin, etc–pro-Trump media. They constantly look for ways to try to praise Trump, overlook or soft-pedal the lies he has told, pivot to criticize Obama and downplay the crisis, all to make him look good. That’s partisanship, but when they tell people that regular media cannot be trusted, they cross the line into not just irresponsibility but immorality. Trump’s downplaying of the risk and lying about the probable course of this outbreak, plus the pro-Trump media telling people that mainstream media cannot be trusted has caused people to doubt the seriousness of this crisis. So, people continue to gather in groups, spreading infection. They resent schools and restaurants being closed because Trumpy Bear said it would be over by April, it would magically disappear, and anyway, most people aren’t very sick.
Experts opine that for every positive COVID-19 test, there are 10 carriers out there, some of whom never have symptoms, or may have such mild symptoms that they don’t seek medical care. If we could test more people, we could limit the spread, but we can’t because we don’t have enough tests. Trump lies about the availability of tests, and his dismantling of our rapid response capabilities and refusal to accept tests from the WHO continues to plague us. We are so far behind in this crisis and all we have is a malignant narcissist who wants to pretend he belongs in the White House. The cameras are on, so he goes to the podium and starts blathering nonsense. We will be lucky if we don’t have another recession or even a depression. Of course, it will all be Obama’s fault.
“Yeah, Allan, just for giggles, I tuned into Hannity last night, and he went overboard praising Trump for banning travel from China.”
Nat, that action prevented a lot of hot spots and was critical in the fight against Corona. Maybe instead of Hannity lauding so much deserved praise on Trump he should have reserved some of that time to show the absolute lack of concern and stupidity on the left by the MSM and by some politicians who called Trump a racist and stupid for the travel ban. Maybe Hannity did but unlike you I didn’t watch him though I thank him for what he does almost every day.
As usual I stopped mid first paragraph because addressing all the garbage you write isn’t productive and intelligent people all ready know what to call it…garbage.
You are a true disciple, so facts don’t faze you whatsoever. Trump “deserves” praise? He mainly instituted the travel ban to try to leverage China, just like he tried to do with the tariffs. Trump couldn’t give a crap about Americans or their health–anything to look good, and he wanted something to brag about for the crowds of cheering deplorables, thinking this would force China to purchase more American goods. If he was motivated by altruistic reasons to prevent the spread of disease, it wouldn’t make sense that he would institute a travel ban when he said there would soon be 0 cases, or that the COVID-19 would simply magically disappear by April, or that most people aren’t very sick, or that we’d have a vaccine “very soon”. Trump did this at the time he did primarily for ECONOMIC reasons. Any fool can see that he has never been on top of this crisis. Why did the European travel ban not include Ireland and England at first? Because he has resorts in those countries that are failing. Besides, there were 14 European countries with lower rates of COVID-19 at the time, so it made no sense from an epidemiological standpoint to limit travel from countries with lower rates of COVID-19 than England and Ireland. Has the fat slob ever said anything whatsoever indicating sympathy for those who are suffering, like Gov. Cuomo did, for instance, or for those who have died? Hell no. All he does is harp about how many people get sick with seasonal influenza, as if this somehow mitigates his failures and lack of leadership. When asked for help mobilizing the federal government’s stockpile of respirators, he told governors that they were on their own.
“absolute lack of concern and stupidity” by mainstream media? Mainstream media are the ones pushing back against the lies about “soon we’ll have 0 cases”, or the lies about tests being available to anyone who wants them, or the lie about COVID-19 magically disappearing in April. Mainstream media have interviews with epidemiologists, intensivists and other experts who aren’t controlled by Trump and who tell the truth. The truth hurts.
In previous times, the extensive lying alone would have forced impeachment, not to mention the dismantling of the rapid response team that he denies knowing anything about. He refuses to accept responsibility for his failures. I guess he never heard about Truman’s desk sign that said “The Buck Stops Here”.
“You are a true disciple, so facts don’t faze you whatsoever. Trump “deserves” praise? He mainly instituted the travel ban to try to leverage China, just like he tried to do with the tariffs.”
I have to laugh. Nat thinks we shouldn’t have instituted the Chinese travel ban or Nat is a psychi. She is neither but could be a psycho.
As usual I stopped reading mid first Paragraph. I can only handle so much garbage at a time.
countless feckless questions all of which contain false presumptions. garbage comment from natch
“As usual I stopped mid first paragraph…”
Allan, this tells anyone all they need to know about you.
Here’s the thing, at Danbury Hospital in Connecticut, two hundred nurses have been taken out of rotation by virtue of the fact they’ve been exposed to a patient admitted for Covid 19. No testing means they don’t know who in that group of nurses is a carrier now, if any. So they all can’t work without further knowledge of their Covid 19 status.
This highlights one of the biggest unforced errors in American history. The U.S. is the worst at testing for Covid 19 in the industrialized world. The W.H.O. told Trump he’d have to buy their tests, and he bailed. The American produced versions were faulty. We’re way behind. That Danbury Hospital experience is no doubt being replicated around the country. It’s a gigantic screw up on the federal level. No way around it. (But I’m guessing you have the Fox vetted excuse to fit the occasion)
Paulie, the shortage of tests is ridiculous and now hitting home for me and family.
My wife and I are currently self-quarantined for 2 weeks because a friend I visited on Saturday found out yesterday that a dentist who worked on him last Monday (8 days ago) tested positive. Because my friend is not showing symptoms so far, they will not test him because they are saving them for those who are. Similarly they won’t waste one on us for the same reason.
In fairness to Trump, the test shortage is partly due to CDC protocol (involving high quality control – see today’s WaPo article) and partly due to his administration declining WHO offered tests weeks ago (no one in the administration will say who made that call). It is also partly due to Trump undoing the WH pandemic task force (about 40 positions with a NSC seat) which one presumes would have been on this early and full time.
PS Paulie, you still have both thumbs?
” … partly due to his administration declining WHO offered tests weeks ago (no one in the administration will say who made that call).”
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Yeah we should have accepted those WHO test kits with a 48% false negative rate. Would really have helped those infected to think they weren’t.
Dr. Nicole Saphier:
“She said, given the urgency, that the U.S. should have used even faulty tests at the start, because they would at least have caught some of the positive cases.”
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/03/13/coronavirus-u-s-rejected-foreign-testing-kits-because-of-48-false-negative-rate/
Excerpts:
1)
‘Dr. Nicole Saphier told Breitbart News Daily on Friday morning that the reason the U.S. had rejected coronavirus test kits from abroad is that they had a 48% false negative rate, meaning sick people would believe, falsely, they were fine.
Saphier is a former microbiologist who appears frequently on Fox News as a contributor. She is also the author of Make America Healthy Again: How Bad Behavior and Big Government Caused a Trillion-Dollar Crisis.
Saphier generally praised the U.S. response to coronavirus, but said that “the one thing” that was “unacceptable” was the lack of testing kits, noting that the private sector had not been harnessed.’
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‘The U.S., she noted, developed its own test, but was also “found to be faulty” once it was distributed.
“This is not so simple as just a yes-or-no answer … it’s very complicated,” she said, noting that some of the criticism was “a little unfair.”
She said, given the urgency, that the U.S. should have used even faulty tests at the start, because they would at least have caught some of the positive cases.
Dr. Saphier noted that South Korea had been successful at testing because of mass production of testing kits by private biotech companies.’
“Dr. Saphier noted that South Korea had been successful at testing because of mass production of testing kits by private biotech companies.’”
That was a problem in the US created by someone other than Trump. Trump changed it so that testing was no longer totally under government control.
Excuses, excuses…
Allan said:
“That was a problem in the US created by someone other than Trump. Trump changed it so that testing was no longer totally under government control.”
While there may be plenty of blame to go around, the buck stops with Trump,now, honey.
Anonymous the Stupid, yes the buck now stops with Trump but that doesn’t mean he isn’t doing a good job compared to any alternative. He was smart to ban Chinese travellers even though the much of the left and MSM laughed at that action and called him a racist.
You don’t have an opinion. An opinion requires a brain.
The perfect should never be the enemy of the good. From a managerial perspective, yes, especially in the case of a pandemic you get the numbers situated by any means necessary. Even if it means having to re test.
Especially given the faulty nature of the tests generated in the States.
Yep.
Drag about the family situation! i suspect many variations of that reality across the States. The world for that matter.
And yes…, braced for the onslaught. Ha.
“partly due to his administration declining WHO offered tests weeks ago ”
I come back to this posting because I am curious to know where those kits offered by WHO came from. I don’t think WHO is in the business of creating and manufacturing such kits. If the kits originated in another country wouldn’t they be using those kits for their own people? How did those kits get made so quickly? How long would it take the FDA to approve the use of those kits when they were preventing private researchers from such or similar testing.
This is not a response to another poster but a set of questions I don’t know a good answer for.
@Paulie
Even some of the Fox folks are now admitting that we should have bought those WHO kits and used them, in spite of the false negatives:
https://jonathanturley.org/2020/03/15/american-university-professor-calls-for-trump-impeachment-over-the-coronavirus-response/comment-page-3/#comment-1931873
And as others have also noted, the WH/NSC pandemic office shouldn’t have been shuttered:
“It would be nice if the office was still there,” Dr. Anthony Fauci said, about the disbanded pandemic response team
Also, it’s such a shame (understatement) that we weren’t in a position to do what South Korea did:
“Dr. Saphier noted that South Korea had been successful at testing because of mass production of testing kits by private biotech companies.” -from the article in the comment to which I’ve linked, above
Yes. And the Fox people never send up the party flares when it comes to admitting a mistake. 🙂
<<“As usual I stopped mid first paragraph…”
<"Allan, this tells anyone all they need to know about you."
We already know that you read and accept garbage as proven material. You even trust anonymous sources and say all sorts of things but never admit when you are wrong.
Maybe you are now agreeing with Nat and saying that Trump's travel ban wasn't to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
pauli natch has it wrong and so do you. it is not an unforced error it is a global pandemic.
trump has made some mistakes but tossing this all on his head is cheap partisan nonsense.
it also undermines getting regular Republicans on board with the necessary crisis because you guys always cry wolf and so people are reluctant to believe the discredited usual sources of authority which now actually need to be respected as the country strives to “flatten the curve” by social isolation.
people that know me as a loyal die hard Trump supporter are perplexed now that I’m telling them to wake the f up and understand this is not fake news. because the Wapoo and others have peddled so much fake news they don’t even want to believe when the situation is crystal clear that this is a health emergency
i hear some of the granola fruits and nuts whining about big pharma now too. please, STFU for now and follow the directions of public health officials! go put your antivaxxer stuff in the pipe and smoke it — at home!
if we are lucky big pharma will pull through for us and justify their existence after all
blah blah blah. i can’t parse this hysterical logorrhea from Natch. screeches too loudly!
Since the comments are now officially poor quality, I suppose I cannot make it worse by trying an emoticon:
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For Allan–for perspective on what media can be trusted and the danger posed by Fox News indoctrinating Trump supporters that main stream media cannot be trusted:
“Just a week ago, Hannity shrugged at the pandemic. “So far in the United States, there’s been around 30 deaths, most of which came from one nursing home in the state of Washington,” he said last Tuesday. “Healthy people, generally, 99 percent recover very fast, even if they contract it.”
By way of comparison, he added: “Twenty-six people were shot in Chicago alone over the weekend. I doubt you heard about it. You notice there’s no widespread hysteria about violence in Chicago. And this has gone on for years and years. By the way, Democratic-run cities, we see a lot of that.”
[From February: Conservative pundits blame a grab bag of supposed villains amid the coronavirus outbreak]
Ingraham, whose program follows Hannity’s, also seems to have had a fast-dawning recognition that the social and economic dislocation of the virus was more than just a Democratic talking point wielded against the president.
In late February, Ingraham called Democrats the “pandemic party” and displayed photos of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) alongside enlarged images of coronavirus molecules. “How sick that these people seem almost happiest when Americans are hurting,” she said.
She kept at it through last Tuesday when, in front of a graphic reading “Trump confronts the panic pushers,” Ingraham said, “The public in some ways seems a lot more levelheaded than the so-called experts. . . . The facts are actually pretty reassuring, but you’d never know it watching all this stuff.”
Her advice: “We need to take care of our seniors. If you’re an elderly person or have a serious underlying condition, avoid tight, closed places, a lot of people, don’t take a cruise maybe. Everyone else wash your hands, use good judgment about your daily activities. Yeah, pragmatic thinking, especially if you’ve been overseas recently in one of the hardest-hit areas.”
In fact, health experts have repeatedly said that everyone, not just “seniors” or the chronically ill, should avoid contact with other people, a strategy known as “social distancing.” Their advice extends to people everywhere, not just those who recently traveled abroad. (On Friday, Ingraham tweeted that it was a “great time to fly if not in at-risk population!” The tweet was later deleted.)
By Wednesday, after Trump announced a travel ban on people from the European Union, Ingraham had started calling the pandemic “this dangerous health crisis.” She characterized warnings issued by National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases head Anthony S. Fauci about the potential spread of the disease as “sobering and scary to hear.”
Regan’s on-air speculation at the start of last week that coronavirus was merely another impeachment gambit for Democrats drew widespread pushback. Clearly the mood was changing at Fox by the time the network announced late Friday that her discussion-and-commentary program on Fox Business would leave the air indefinitely, to be replaced by long-form programming — part of a larger overhaul of the prime-time schedule, Fox officials said, intended to free up resources that would help bolster coverage of the crisis during “critical market hours.”
Fox insiders said that Regan’s removal from air showed that only some hosts — those with the biggest ratings — are protected at Fox News. “If you put Trish’s comments up against Laura [Ingraham’s], you can’t honestly tell me that Trish is off the air” because of her coronavirus commentary, said a former Fox News executive who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak frankly about his past employer.”
From the Washington Post.
Telling viewers that “the facts are actually pretty reassuring”, encouraging people to fly and go out to restaurants, accusing Democrats of being happy when people come down with COVID-19, but mostly attacking mainstream media for telling the truth crosses the line from political posturing to dangerous, immoral propaganda.
Steve Bannon has been warning about this since he started his pandemic daily broadcast at end of January
https://pagesix.com/2020/03/16/steve-bannon-says-he-warned-trump-of-coronavirus-in-january/
they’re just getting it on “page six” yesterday but i mentioned it here a month ago
trump has been slow on the uptake but you’re going overboard blaming him for what is a global pandemic that transcends party and national rivalries
The comments on this thread have noticeably proceeded downhill. I suppose that this illustrates the law of entropy…
Joe Biden answers every debate question with squinty botoxed eyes in an angry agitated manner and he ALWAYS says “Number 1” blah blah blah and “Number 2” blah blah blah. EVERY. SINGLE. ANSWER. Angry squinting agitated “number 1” and “number 2″…..enough already. Two old men who do not belong anywhere near the Oval Office.
Joe says always: Number One. Period. Number Two. Period. Squints eyes into slits. Gets angry and shouts answers. Gets confused. Mixes up his words. Squints his eyes shut to reset his brain misfiring. SO exhausting watching Joe Biden being beaten to a pulp by the older candidate who just had a heart attack a few months ago. Joe, go home buddy. You are an embarrassment.
Watch Joe Biden’s facial expressions and his eyes. He is not looking like a man who actually knows where. he. is. and. what. is. going. on. LOOK at his face people!
Joe Biden will ONLY pick a woman as his running mate. Biden will only appoint a BLACK WOMAN to the Supreme Court.
Anonymous feels the need to scream “BLACK WOMAN” — as if calmly stating it isn’t enough.
Anonymous:
“Joe Biden will ONLY pick a woman as his running mate. Biden will only appoint a BLACK WOMAN to the Supreme Court.”
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Well, we thought Biden was a misandrist and a racist ignoring any sense of merit and now we know. Who says the comatose can’t teach us things. Like the poet says:
” even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.”
I vote Marianne Williamson for VP:
You can calm down now.
Who would ever trust the World Health Organization?!?!
Why the Corruption of the World Health Organization (WHO) is the Biggest
Threat to the World’s Public Health of Our Time
Article · February 2015 DOI: 10.13188/2378-1343.1000004
1 author: Soren Ventegodt
The Quality of Life Research Center READS: 9,921
Why did the US CDC not trust the WHO? Their handling of the H1N1 “pandemic” flu, Ebola virus, corruption in the leadership, etc for starters…
WHO seeks new leader to rebuild damaged reputation – Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-who-director-idUSKBN1592IK
What we have learnt about the World Health Organization from the Ebola outbreak
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5394645/
WHO sees 4.9 billion pandemic flu shots in best-case – Reuters
Bernie the commie has never had a job in his entire life. God forbid what this country would become if someone like Bernie EVER got into power in the White House.
Joe Biden keeps telling his plan and what HE would do AS IF all of it is not what Trump is ALREADY DOING you utter wack job dum dum.
Joe Biden is the dummest dum dum ever and should NEVER set his foot in the Oval Office as POTUS. Not now. Not ever. Why is he always squinting and shouting his answers like an angry doofus? What the hell is wrong with Joe Biden?
Beatrix — “‘Tis better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.”
I suggest that you follow the sage advice when it comes to matters beyond your ken.
For example, how many times was Alexander Friedman’s well-published work on general relativity independently rediscovered?
mjmichaels2, that you find my “conversations”, your usage, to be surreal I take as a complement.
mjmichaels2 — There was no way to count the number of “reads” in 1974 and for a long time thereafter. It seems that some few have chosen to download in this century. I’m impressed and, I suppose, pleased.
I offered some advice down thread about not commenting on matters about which one is ignorant. I suggest heeding it.
Dated scientific literature is referenced, quoted and cited all the time. Yours is not which, as stated, explains why you talk to yourself on here
Bwahahahahaa
never ever ever engage David Benson…he is a patholigical liar and egotist beyond hope….
Chinese appliance industry took a hit:
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202003/12/WS5e698c6ca31012821727e61e.html
David B. Benson comments so frequently on here, engaging hinself in surreal conversations, because no one ever read his published academic “scholarship” during his facultative tenure
An abstract machine theory for formal language parsers
Article in Acta Informatica 3(2):187-202 · January 1974 with 7 Reads
DOI: 10.1007/BF00264037 · Source: DBLP
David B. Benson at Washington State University
so he’s a math professor. why is that offered as negative?
i got bones to pick with benson but not about algebra or whatever. gosh
it’s actually a good thing to have a range of well educated commentators to engage even when it seems difficult at times,. out of this dialectic often comes insight
No, computer and information science. Hired by WSU around about 1968.
Once again we observe that absurd the 12th or 13th, I forget, just Makes Stuff Up:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/01/economy/china-pmi-economy-coronavirus/index.html
— David B Benson
All the last impeachment did was prove that the democrats are anti-American anarchists, progressively pursuing a liberal dose of antithetical communism, in dire need of appropriately licit prosecution or deportation and exile.
You know what many many many Americans are plain sick and tired of? The freakin’ Democrat politicians and the freakin’ Democrat activist propaganda pushing mainstream cable news media. They are utterly and completely disgraceful. The anti-Trump mainstream press has lost nearly all credibility. They are no longer a trusted source of anything but pushing out Democrat talking points and propaganda. They disgust most Americans at this point.
Shhhhhhh! Peter Shill depends on those sources to stay alive! If those sources reach the point where no one believes them, Shill will have to resort to being a Travis rent-boy Dyson hoe ala Andrew Gillum and that would be tragic. Viruses would spread on myriad levels not least of which would be TDS, COVID-69, HIV, LGBTQ-EIEIO and shrunken 🍒
Carry on Peter! Your adoring fans (thats us right-wing bubble types) are counting on you!
Peter’s in the age group where you are a customer in such transactions, not a vendor, always and everywhere.
Maybe Peter is as ripped as Travis Dyson?
Nah…we didnt think so either.
Tweaked yes, but not ripped
Our mod is apparently fine with regular posters here imagining sexual behavior involving other posters with whom they disagree on politics. Putting aside the junior high level of conversation these supposedly deep thinkers prefer, is this what JT wants on his blog comment pages?
Burndabook supplies The Shill with the white stuff…baggies optional
mespo – I am wanting to know why there are no charges for the baggies of “sugar” that were found?
Paul
Anon is the supplier for the gay cabal in Florida which explains why no charges were pressed
deep state and all that
Paul:
Typically, everyone in the room is charged and then the cops turn the “banana-boy” who usually has other prostitution charges with come-back time on them. Once the lab results get back the plea deal is made with the witness and then the grand jury is impaneled to formally charge the politician with solicitation, possession and false statements to police. That assumes his blood test comes back negative for meth which I’m betting was never even drawn.
mespo – I am also curious to know why 3 (count them three) police captains were required to attend the scene of a drug overdose?
“mespo – I am also curious to know why 3 (count them three) police captains were required to attend the scene of a drug overdose?”
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One to lie about following protocol and two to swear to it.
mespo – fair enough, I am not up-to-date on current police procedure.
lol zing nice one mespo. why i come back!
Absurd, you’re talking to Estovir; the original Crazed Idiot. A creepy nerd obsessed with homocentric imagery. And honestly, Absurd, you and Estovir have a chemistry. Neither has ever hung with anybody cool. To the contrary both of you are types hip people shun.
There’s a thread for this, but trolls gotta troll.
Fed Cuts Rates To Near Zero
If Markets Don’t Respond, Then What?
The Federal Reserve cut its key interest rate to near zero, a move not seen since the depths of the 2008 financial crisis. It was the U.S. central bank’s second emergency rate cut this month.
“The effects of the coronavirus will weigh on economic activity in the near term and pose risks to the economic outlook,” the Fed said in a statement announcing the move Sunday. “In light of these developments, the Committee decided to lower the target range for the federal funds rate to 0 to 1/4 percent.”
President Trump — who has often slammed the Fed for not cutting rates more quickly — praised the move.
“It’s really great news” and “great for our country,” Trump told reporters at the White House, adding that the Fed’s action should cheer financial markets. Just on Friday, Trump had said he could remove Fed Chairman Jerome Powell, whom he had appointed, from the top job at the Fed.
Edited From: “Fed Cuts Interest Rates To Near Zero: Emergency Move To Support Strained Economy
Today’s NPR
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This late, breaking news is frightening. If markets fail to respond, Jerome Powell has painted himself into a corner. Trump should have let Powell raise interest rates months ago. Now there’s literally no room for additional cuts.
There is a world wide pandemic. Many people are going to be out of work. Restaurants are one industry that is going to take a big hit. Globally. France has closed all non essential businesses, including restaurants, starting Monday. Chinese manufacturing is basically stopped. That impacts a very great many industries, including medical and automotive. Getting parts for your dishwasher will probably be difficult, too.
Why do people keep fretting that the market is going to crash. Of course it is. Just accept it and carry on. Things will get better. But that will only come after they are quite a bit worse.
There is no way the Dow is going to be insulted from the effects of a global pandemic, with a lot of people unable to return to work. So don’t take the fallling dow as a sign of Armageddon. It just reflects reality. And in a year or two, it will begin to rebound.
I anticipate there will be quite a bit of spending bills.
Chinese manufacturing is basically stopped.
About 96% of China’s population is not living in the province of Hubei. It’s unlikely Chinese manufacturing is ‘stopped’.
China is trying to vamp up manufacturing again.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/business/china-coronavirus-economy.html
However there have been reports that some factories are running empty, in order to satisfy officials that they are back online, while workers stay home.
https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-03-04/lights-are-on-but-no-ones-working-how-local-governments-are-faking-coronavirus-recovery-101524058.html
Getting parts for your dishwasher will probably be difficult, too.
Oh the tragedy! The horror! The Horror!
Peter, mock all you like. A great many things are made in China – parts and devices that affect so many industries – medical, automotive, appliance, computer, kitchen, bath, housewares…I’m trying to think of an industry not affected. The delay will probably be 30-90 days. Longer if the virus doesn’t fade out in summer.
While the slow down is just temporary, it will have far reaching effects on businesses, large and small, globally. People aren’t working, some businesses will close temporarily or go out of business. In France, for example, almost all businesses besides medical and grocery are force to close. Add to this a hit to supply chains. Appliance repair businesses may have trouble getting parts. You know what else is often made in China? Solar panels and their parts. Most iPhones are made in China. (Which is crazy. The country is infamous for spyware and intellectual property theft. Why the heck would an American company have the most intrusive device to date manufactured in a country known for computer theft?) Many computers are made in China.
Even in areas not affected by covid19, people don’t want to buy from China. There are supply shortages.
Take a hypothetical family. Their stove is not working, and needs a part replaced. It is backordered without any idea when they can get it in. Covid19 has caused school shutdowns, and many people are not at work for a while. No stove, no hot meals, unless they spend money on a new one, get a camp stove (and hopefully use it outside), or just eat cold food and sandwiches for a month or two. That means they can’t make and freeze soups and casseroles. It’s not the end of the world, but it is one more thing to add to the pile.
I don’t know why you would think it’s funny that small businesses and large businesses will have trouble getting inventory. There are going to be some jobs fluctuations world wide.
These aren’t numbers. They’re people.
We are going to need a healthy business climate moving forward to help us get out of this mess in a few months or even longer.
Karen, you’re talking to Estovir.
Chris Edelson is a moron. Professor of what, IDIOCY. Pelosi and the dems should be removed from office for attempting to sneak abortion funding pork into the coronavirus bill. This is playing politics with the corona virus crises. More obstructionism from democrats.
Hutom, but then Turley would have no time for anything else.
— David B Benson
Oh my what a shame! It is soooo paranoid to call for impeachment. All he did was to call for his resignation and then add that if not he should impeached. Heaven forbid people from making such paranoid demands. On the other hand the liar in chief, cry-baby, take-no-responsibility, trash-talking maniac during the Friday press briefing, bragged to the press about his supposed scientific expertise, suggesting that he has “a natural ability” to understand the issues associated with coronavirus. One reporter who witnessed the briefing said that “the president’s statements to the press were terrifying.
But then God asked Turley to pick only the mildly egregious comments from the left and go ballistic. Only if he wrote something each time the moron in chief opens his mouth…
Hutom, this behavior is accepted as if it were by a five year old, which is about right. What a national embarrassment, and now an obstacle to dealing with a crisis which does not count votes or watch cable news.
There is no reason for him to resign and no reason to impeach him. The professor merely wants the president gone for reasons of personal preference and pretends some extraordinary circumstance is afoot demanding it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51860529
Coronavirus: US is failing on testing, says Fauci
But, but, but…socialized medicine! Medicare for All! Government takeover of health care! and…and….and…
Yes, Government regulations will kill us if the constant whiplash of Dems pivoting helter skelter does not