Schiff and Democratic Leaders Push For IG Investigation Of Bill Barr Over Comments

440px-William_BarrThere  is an interesting fight brewing on the Hill after House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff and Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler called for the Justice Department inspector general to investigate Attorney General Bill Barr over his comments on the firing of the intelligence community watchdog, Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson.  What is curious is that Barr justified the firing on the very basis that I previously raised in a blog column, While I was highly critical of the move, I noted that termination would have been justified if Atkinson continued to assert that he would not follow Justice Department interpretations of federal law.  However, President Donald Trump made clear that he fired Atkinson for the worst possible reason: the merits of the Ukrainian allegations reported to Congress.  So Schiff and Nadler are calling for an investigation into Barr over his arguing what would be legitimate grounds for a termination? It is not clear to me what the IG is supposed to do with such a request.  Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., have also requested a review of Barr’s comments. (For full disclosure, I testified in favor of Barr’s confirmation before the Senate Judiciary Committee).

I previously wrote that:

“Atkinson was wrong in his interpretation of the complaint failing within the statutory scheme for reporting to Congress. While the inspector general concluded that this allegation fell within the whistleblower law, the Justice Department has a good faith basis to reject his interpretation. That law is intended to address mismanagement, waste, abuse or a danger to public safety by intelligence officials. The president is the ultimate intelligence authority, and there is little support to argue that a discussion between world leaders should be viewed as a subject of this law. After all, any intelligence official could claim that a president undermined national interests in discussions with another world leader. Trump has been denounced, perhaps correctly, for disclosing classified information to foreign figures, but he has total authority to declassify information for a good reason, a bad reason, or no reason at all.

I believe that Atkinson should have yielded to the legal judgment of the Justice Department on the interpretation of this law.”

I still would not have fired Atkinson so long as he committed to following Justice Department interpretations in the future. I also criticized other terminations following the impeachment, though they were clearly within Trump’s authority.

Barr essentially made the same argument when asked why Atkinson warranted termination for ignoring the interpretation of the Department: “from the vantage point of the Department of Justice, [Atkinson] had interpreted his statute, which is a fairly narrow statute, that gave him jurisdiction over wrongdoing by intelligence people and tried to turn it into a commission to explore anything in the government and immediately reported to Congress without letting the Executive Branch look at it and determine whether there was any problem.”

For that reason, Barr thought that the termination was “the right thing” to do.

Yet, Schiff and Nadler have called upon Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz and acting director of the Office of Professional Responsibility Jeffrey Ragsdale, to investigate Barr for “blatantly mischaracteriz[ing]” the basis for Atkinson’s firing.  They claim that “Mr. Barr’s misleading remarks appear to have been aimed at justifying the President’s retaliatory decision to fire Mr. Atkinson.”  That is the basis for an Inspector General’s investigation?  Why would an Attorney General opining on the legal basis for a termination be a violation of federal law or policy?

Barr is right that Atkinson’s termination would be justified on such a basis. He does not claim that this was the only or primary reason for Trump’s decision.  Yet, Feinstein and Warner believe that the IG should investigate an Attorney General if he is viewed as “misstating” facts behind a president’s motivation in firing an official.  Such a standard would allow the IG’s office to regulate all public comments by a president or cabinet member for their accuracy or veracity like a type of fact checking operation.

The call for this investigation undermines the credibility of the otherwise serious work to be done by the Committee. It shows a type of perpetual motion machine of investigations built by the Democrats.  I fail to see why this is a wise political strategy. It is designed to get a brief media hit but also dilutes the impact of real matters that warrant investigation.


235 thoughts on “Schiff and Democratic Leaders Push For IG Investigation Of Bill Barr Over Comments”

  1. “That law is intended to address mismanagement, waste, abuse or a danger to public safety by intelligence officials.”

    What the law actually says:

    “The Inspector General is authorized to receive and investigate, pursuant to subsection (h), complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules, or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

    It does not say the person making the complaint must be in the intelligence community nor does it say say the “violation of laws, rules, or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety” must be carried out by intelligence officials.

    This complaint concerns an “activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence” because it involves intelligence officials reporting classified information and the subsequent investigation will require someone who
    can handle classified information to conduct it.

    The idea is to provide an avenue for reporting “violation of laws, rules, or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety” without compromising classified or sensitive material.

    Besides all that. the ICIG reports his findings to the Director of National Intelligence. It was the DNI that gave the complaint to Congress.

    1. Thanks for the full wording. You would think this was a minor thing that the president did that was blown out of proportion. The most revealing thing in this blog since Trump has come power has been Turley’s constant framing of his most egregious misdeeds with “both-side”isms and minor show of displeasure. Contrast that with the acerbic tone with which even the minor actions of democrats – especially female democrats – are treated with. And people of color deserve a special corner in all this – just check how he handles the goat’s accomplice Bill Barr with Eric Holder.

      “violation of laws, rules, or regulations” – wonder why that part was left out.

      Come November, unless suppression is in full swing, the dotard goat is done for. But we should never forget the enablers.

  2. Young, I don’t remember just where in Kellogg I saw the model; I suppose that there was some sort of museum. There was also an illustration of the modern mining method; briefly described as bottom up.

    Too bad that some pix of the 3D model do not appear to be available online.

  3. Seth Warner — From Worldometer, Arizona has 5,251 reported cases of COVID -19 and 208 deaths therefrom. Today’s report.


  4. Virtue Signaling? not so smart, BDB

    De Blasio’s social distancing tip line flooded with penis photos, Hitler memes

    Mayor Bill de Blasio’s critics let him know how they really felt about him ordering New Yorkers to snitch on each other for violating social-distancing rules — by flooding his new tip line with crank complaints including “dick pics” and people flipping the bird, The Post has learned.

    Photos of extended middle fingers, the mayor dropping the Staten Island groundhog and news coverage of him going to the gym have all been texted to a special tip line that de Blasio announced Saturday, according to screenshots posted on Twitter.

    One user sent the message “We will fight this tyrannical overreach!” to the service and got an automated message that in part said, “Hello, and thank you for texting NYC311.”

    “F–k you!” replied @MorganLSchmidt1, along with a meme showing Adolf Hitler and the words “TO THOSE TURNING IN YOUR NEIGHBORS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES — YOU DID THE REICH THING.”

    “Start flooding their reporting text numbers with this pics!” the tweet added.

    Other profane messages included a photo of a bowl of gummy candies in the shape of male genitalia and a sign saying “EAT A BAG OF D–KS.”

    It was not immediately clear whether any of the posters actually lived in New York City.

    A Twitter post comparing Mayor de Blasio to Hitler in response to his call for New Yorkers to report social distancing violations.

    An NYPD source said that “dick pic” photos of real penises have also been texted to 311, and a caller phoned in a tip that de Blasio was seen performing oral sex on someone “in an alleyway behind a 7-11” early Sunday.

    “He looked at me…and coofed in my direction,” the caller said, according to a photo of the 311 operator’s computer screen provided to The Post.

    “Coof” is a newly coined term for coughing while infected with the coronavirus, according to the Urban Dictionary website.

    The inundation of off-color texts was so large the city had to temporarily shut down the service.

    “The city has begun vetting everything before dispersing the information to precincts,” the NYPD source said.

    1. Anonymous – thank you and thank all those who responded appropriately to the Mayor’s Nazi snitch line.

      1. Paul, posted below mentioning you:

        Allan– Both Paul and I are very familiar with the logging and mining communities of Montana and Idaho.

        I would love to see Seth go there and explain ‘manliness’ to those guys.

        Paul and I would probably arrange to drive him there just so we could watch.

        Maybe they would be laughing so hard they wouldn’t even hurt him.


        1. Young – I have always posited that the girls in Butte were tougher than the guys in the rest of the state. 😉 We could take Peter to Butte and hook him up.

          1. Paul– I found them very sweet and likeable and you probably did too. They weren’t whiners though and I guess they were tough in that respect. Too tough for Seth.

            Actually, I would like to see Seth take a ride in the cage (elevator to the rest of you ) down to the 3,700 foot level or spend a night on the hillside fighting fire or a day hooking on a jammer.

            1. Young – I haven’t been that deep in a mine, but I have fought a grassfire.

              1. Paul– I haven’t done a grassfire, just tall timber, but it is probably the same, ax, shovel, pulaski and lots of sweat and hard work, sleeping in the open. Good times when you are young.

                Some guys liked underground but I didn’t care for it, but I was in the same mine that killed my uncle. After I left there was a major loss, 91 men in a single day. Greg Olson wrote a very good account of the disaster in The Deep Dark. You will probably recognize the culture, pretty much the same as Butte.

                1. Young – been in a lot of mines and huge caves, but never that deep. The grassfire was when I was 17. It is a young man’s game. 😉

                  1. Paul, if you look down the shaft you can see nothing, just dark and you realize you can drop three Empire State buildings down there before you will see the top of one. Then you go down. It is very humid and hot and in places difficult to get a breath if you exert yourself. And sometimes dangerous. From 3,700 there was another shaft that went down more than another 1,000 feet. The two guys who survived the first day of the disaster found safety huddled down there. I think everyone on the 3,700 who did not get out immediately died.

                    1. I knew some of them and I have wondered if any of the guys I worked with were among them, but I don’t remember their names. The names of the dead are on the memorial at the bottom of Big Creek Gulch where the mine is.

                    2. Young – you should go back and check it out. It might give you some closure.

                    3. Young – watch something comedic. it will help. This is no time to get depressed.

                    4. Paul– I don’t think I do closure. Not of that generation. But you can see I am great at lowering the mood when I get on this track at parties. I try to avoid it or make it funny so I don’t bother folks.

                    5. Paul– Thanks but I am not depressed and I didn’t mean to turn dark on others. Those were not the first we knew to die in the mines and we probably just got used to the idea. My uncle was the first for me and I was pretty young at the time. Visiting with you here took me back by accident. Didn’t mean to do it.

                    6. “you can drop three Empire State buildings down there before you will see the top of one. ”

                      Young good way to describe the depth. I’ve been to the top of the Empire State building. I’ve looked down from the top of the Empire State Building. I would hate to look up that distace from a tunnel much less 3X the distance.

        2. Sounds like Paul and Young have a very special friendship involving watching loggers

          Not that there is anything wrong that.

        1. WW33 – remember when Barry “I never had a scandal” Obama had his email hotline to send in fake news, etc. I used to send lies he would use on the stump and send them to the account. I look forward to the day some “historian” goes through all that. 😉

          1. Paul – OMG, that is an actual Lulz over here. Some historian will have to go through it and be like what the….😆😂

            I should have been a history major, I am really into it now. Too bad I wasn’t at 18-20 yo, coulda woulda shoulda been my major. Oh well, growing pains…

            1. WW33 – I had a sociology professor who thought a person would probably change careers 4 times in their lifetime. You can be a historian as an avocation.

          2. Yea, a faux Mensa-boy sitting in his basement getting over on Obama. Still having wet dreams this many years later, I guess you just can’t go back.

            1. Tony – the fact that some historian from the Library of Congress is going to have to go through my email messages to Barry brings me great joy. 🙂 Also, that Barry took all of his papers (including my emails) to his library so they are hidden from the public for 5 years, shows his fear of exposure.

      2. Paul have you ever seen a graph of American cities measured by density per square mile?

        Manhattan has a Density Per Square Mile count of about 70,000. Phoenix, by comparison, has less than 4,000 per square mile.

        So I can imagine in New York flaunting of quarantine is literally a life and death matter.

        I would guess the tip line was set up concerning underground nightclubs. That’s a New York thing

        1. Peter – this is the same mayor who said that the ChiCom virus was not a problem and people should go to work, theatre, subway, etc. His Dept of Health back him up. She has not been seen since.

          1. Paul, whatever. New York is Ground Zero for this pandemic. It’s more serious there than Phoenix. But if we dont stop it in New York, it will get to Phoenix.

            1. Peter – it has been here for some time. The first case was a grad student returning to ASU from Wuhan, He was isolated and everyone he was in contact with was monitored. There are 20 cases in my zip code right now.

              1. Autopsy Reveals First US Patient Died From CCP Virus on Feb. 6
                BY ZACHARY STIEBER April 22, 2020 Updated: April 22, 2020
                An American patient died from the CCP virus on Feb. 6, according to newly received autopsy results, over three weeks before the first COVID-19 death in the United States was previously known to have occurred.

                COVID-19 is a new disease caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, a novel coronavirus that emerged from mainland China last year.

                The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has said the first death due to COVID-19 in the United States took place on Feb. 28. That patient resided in Kirkland, Washington state.

                But autopsies done by the medical examiner in Santa Clara County, California, show two patients who died earlier in February tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, the technical name for the CCP virus.

                One of the patients died on Feb. 6 while the other passed away on Feb. 17. Both died at home.


            2. “But if we dont stop it in New York, it will get to Phoenix.”

              Florida, maybe, but Florida has pretty much controlled the virus and the beaches are open in certain parts of the state. It’s called good government. That Paint Chips doesn’t realize that Covid is in every state is not surprising.

              NYC is leftwing and the government sucks along with the mayor. It think the number of transit workers that have died is up to 67 but the subways are still running. I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t be shut down but the subway problem has been in existence for decades just like the overcrowding of the hospitals before Covid..

              Living in NYC must be hell right now and maybe that is why so many fled to Florida.

      1. Anonymous – are you saying that de Blasio could not give a liberal a stiffy?

    1. Allan – if you want to know who Nancy Pelosi is, google commercial refrigerator + $12/pint ice cream + ocean view

      1. Paul, the video showed me her refrigerator and her ice cream. It also shows that she is an idiot.

        1. By the way Paul it looks she has counter depth refrigerator and freezer which cost around $12-$15,000 its fitting to have $12 a pint ice cream just not so fitting to display as millions of Americans are suffering and have become unemployed. At the same time she holds up life saving loans to small businesses.

        2. Allan – Nancy has two commercial refrigerators at $25K+ and the ice cream. I think the botox has affected her brain. Botox has long been used for migraines.

          1. Not important but why do you think they are commercial refrigerators? They look like the high end counter depth appliances that are tall but don’t stick out such as sub-zero, Miele etc.

            1. Allan – several people have commented on them in various videos and priced out the units, plus the ice cream. It is a brand I have never heard of, however it prices at $12/pint or $67/gallon according to people in the know. Personally, I pay $3.19/pint for my ice cream and buy them one at a time.

              1. I wasn’t asking about the ice cream. I asked you why you thought the refrigerators were commercial refrigerators. Do you think she runs an ice cream store out of her house?

                  1. “priced out the units, plus the ice cream.” = “commercial refrigerator” ?

                    Paul, I guess the best answer to my question to date is that you think she sells ice cream from her home.

                    1. Allan – I do not know if she sell ice cream. I know she own a vineyard and it isn’t for personal use.

    2. Nancy is to ice cream and botox as Imelda Marcos was to shoes


    3. Is Nancy signaling or trolling with that Orange 33 sweater over the shoulders? Or is that too Tin Foil Hat?

      Who knows! I’ve been telling ppl about Epstein since 2008-9 and Weinstein since 2010-11.

      I was laughed at and ridiculed for both…turns out both were true!!! Go figure.

      I have a few more speculations on High Rollers that are probably true as well…I know em when I see em…Anyhoo

        1. Paul – Just tinfoil hatting over here. Just joking around. 😉

          If I did have a tinfoil hat, I would purposely shape it into a cowboy hat, just sayin’ 🤠

          I think a blue sweater would have been more fittinf than orange. Maybe blue isn’t her colour though

  5. BREAKING: Kim Jong-un is rumored to be brain dead and also leading in polls to replace Joe Biden

    1. MW, I think in Belgium and the Netherlands Alzheimer patients can be provided euthanasia and it might be that one can even write a declaration. when mentally competent that they be euthanized when dementia reaches a certain point. Is it possible that this is the Democratic plan for Joe Biden should he get elected. They like killing babies so what is the difference with killing someone in his second childhoold?

      1. They don’t need to kill him. Just leave him on the other side of the street on a heavy traffic day.

    2. Kim Jong-un, these violent delights, have violent ends.

      I’m using it out of context to Romeo and Juliet, but I do think it works well for a man who has joyously slaughtered so many with a smile on his face.

      1. WW33 – South Korea just is reporting he has gone “underground.”

  6. The Prof. said, “I fail to see why this is a wise political strategy. It is designed to get a brief media hit but also dilutes the impact of real matters that warrant investigation.”

    Uh, a brief media hit is all the Democrats need. Their base mostly has a short attention span. How else do they get supposedly non-brain damaged people to believe that our borders should be open to all AND that the minimum wage should be at least $15 per hour. At the same time. As if cheap labor doesn’t drive down wages.

    The Democrats are no longer the “thinking party”, if they ever were.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  7. It would be one thing if these guys were back benchers. The it would be kind of their job. But they’re chairmen of their committees. It doesn’t make much sense legally or politically.

  8. This is an attorney general projecting an air of confidence, not afraid to speak truth to slippery politicians even though the pushback will be fierce and personal. In light of that, it’s hard to imagine his confidence isn’t buttressed with mounting evidence of abusive government actions.

    This is what the Durham investigation could well conclude: A group of people aligned with or sympathetic to one political party conspired to illicitly use the authorities of the FBI to besmirch the opposing party’s presidential candidate — and that every effort should be made to indict those who can be charged as a result.

    If true, such a thing has never happened before. It would represent a direct, unprecedented attack on our democracy, to fraudulently influence the voting public with lies ostensibly emanating as facts from a noble, traditionally trusted FBI. And that, indeed, would be a travesty of historical significance. One never to be repeated, we can hope, against any future president of either party.

      1. Given this is a legal blog, is it your opinion McCabe should be indicted? Let’s see if you can apply objective reason:

        So convinced was the FBI that they had their man that agents swore out four FISA applications attesting that the FBI “believes that Russia’s efforts to influence U.S. policy were likely being coordinated between the [Russian Intelligence Service] and Page, and possible others.” The FBI further swore to the court that Page “was identified by source reporting as an intermediary with Russian leadership in ‘a well-developed conspiracy of co-operation’ to influence the 2016 U.S. Presidential election.”

        So why didn’t the FBI provide the Trump campaign a defensive briefing about Page? Why didn’t the FBI warn Trump that it had evidence that Page was acting as an agent for Russia and that the campaign should be aware of that fact in communications with Page?

        1. Olly, you earlier promised McCabe was going to do jail time, and last I looked, he’s free. What happened? Seems someone’s been feeding you a line of s….

          1. Although I never promised an indictment or conviction, I have asserted the evidence clearly supports indictments and convictions of everyone in this Russiagate conspiracy. Good to know you’re on the record supporting criminal wrongdoing. You and your ilk will go down in history as the biggest gaggle of useful idiots this country has ever had. Paint Chips has an excuse, you on the other hand are a willful idiot.

            1. Olly, burnthebook got the virus by going to UF campus where they have bats. It seems no one offered him a ICU bed at Shands…better dead than red, medical experts were overheard saying


      2. Comrade McCabe was fully pardoned by the Deep Deep State (DDS) of the American Communist Party (ACP).

    1. Olly, the entire world saw Trump side with Putin onstage in Helsinki Finland. Trump, a U.S. Presiedent, was siding with a Russian quasi dictator against U.S. Intelligence findings. Yet you and william Barr pretend we never saw that moment.

      And we never saw Trump publicly call on Putin to “find Hillary’s emails”. We never saw Trump praise Wikileaks. We never saw Trump tell Lester Holt that he fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation. We never saw Trump assure the Russian Ambassador that “Comey is gone”.

      You see the problem is that Trump really said all these things on camera. Yet Trump defenders pretend none of it happened. It’s an insult to our intelligence.

      1. And we never saw…

        As for you and your royal we, your we never sees anything unless it’s sourced from whatever your we approves of. There is a still growing mountain of actual physical evidence that blows up the Left’s narrative on Trump and Russia. To still pump that false narrative as truth would be an utter embarrassment for anyone with a hint of critical-thinking ability; but of course that is not within your wheelhouse.

        1. Olly., in other words you and Barr simply cannot account for all those utterances Trump made on camera. So you play this stupid charade like none of it ever happened.

          1. Why in the world would I deny documented evidence, I’m not a Leftist. Of those things that President Trump is on record saying, how many of them were evidence of an impeachable offense?

            1. Olly, what Seth is saying is that he is against charades because everyone thinks he is one….even his VPN host


      2. ha ha insult to your intelligence? dont start with the sanctimonious posturing like natacha

        demonizing Putin a big fun trick that the US mass media uses to excoriate trump is the insult to the intelligence of the American people. it’s an old trick however and a boring one so it’s not au courant at the moment. and yet you dust it off for a reply here today., lame!

        I’ll remind you and any geeks out there reading this: the US intelligence services do not command the American head of state, he commands them. He is the boss and he is the consumer of their information product. The US is not ruled by Generals and it is not ruled by spies, either

        Preempt threats and further US national security objectives by collecting intelligence that matters, producing objective all-source analysis, conducting effective covert action as directed by the President, and safeguarding the secrets that help keep our Nation safe.”

      1. Ha! If you’ll excuse me, I’m off to buy one of the Governor’s essential lottery tickets followed by a purchase of essential recreational marijuana. I’ll be careful not to buy a furnace filter however, I can’t tell if that’s on the list.

      2. Paul, Wayne County Michigan has one of the highest infection rates in the country. Is that nothing to worry about?

        1. Somone get Seth a ticket to Michigan to allow the virus to descend on him, then set him on fire to destroy the virus or him or 2-4-1


        2. I think the deaths equate to .07% of the population of that county and the deaths among those having the disease is less than 1%. I haven’t done a lot of research but I remember reading about a lot of nursing home deaths in that County. Being one ” of the highest infection rates in the country” isn’t so bad.

          I am not happy with any deaths but you are an hysteric. Look up the entymology of hysteria and hysterectomy. In your research you might find a cure.

      3. Paul- Thanks. The Babylon Bee is superb and more honest than the Sacramento Bee.

        1. Young – the Babylon Bee and The Onion has supplanted the NYT as the “paper of record.”

        2. Young, you’re always thanking the other commentors for one thing or another. Such a nice guy.

  9. “Schiff and Democratic Leaders…”

    – Professor Turley

    If you let dependent parasites and lunatics vote, you will have dependent parasites and lunatics elected.

    11.6% of the population voted in the 1788 presidential election.

    In 1788, the vote was important, carried weight and force and was severely limited and restricted.

    In 2020, the vote is “harvested” – it is a faux, diluted, weak tool used by communists for the acquisition of personal power and the redistribution of largesse.

    Generally, the American Founders required voters to be: Male, European, 21, 50 lbs. Sterling/50 acres.

    The inmates have taken over the asylum.

    America must restrict the vote.

    “the people are nothing but a great beast…

    I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value.”

    – Alexander Hamilton

    “The true reason (says Blackstone) of requiring any qualification, with regard to property in voters, is to exclude such persons, as are in so mean a situation, that they are esteemed to have no will of their own.”

    “If it were probable that every man would give his vote freely, and without influence of any kind, then, upon the true theory and genuine principles of liberty, every member of the community, however poor, should have a vote… But since that can hardly be expected, in persons of indigent fortunes, or such as are under the immediate dominion of others, all popular states have been obliged to establish certain qualifications, whereby, some who are suspected to have no will of their own, are excluded from voting; in order to set other individuals, whose wills may be supposed independent, more thoroughly upon a level with each other.”

    – Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, 1775

  10. I don’t think the President is required to give any reason for firing anyone who serves at his pleasure.

    I think Obama fired every U.S. Attorney in the country without explanation and the political establishment didn’t raise a peep.

    The perpetual investigation machine of the Democrats is not intended to discover facts. It is to try to wound this President in any way possible.

    Given their history, does anyone truly doubt that they will resort to voter fraud in the next election?

    An incomplete list would include: Claiming he was not elected because he did not receive a majority of the popular vote. Claiming the votes were miscounted and demanding recounts (which resulted in more votes for Trump). Pleading to the electors to illegally not vote for Trump despite the electoral votes the President won. Spying on his campaign. Spying on his Presidency. Illegally leaking confidential information. Pursuing a fraudulent investigation that spent millions of dollars and wasted millions of hours only to come up with nothing. Initiating a completely fraudulent impeachment that was supported lock-step by only one party and never had a chance in the Senate. This was bad because it was one more distraction when the Wuhan virus was coming our way. Blood on Democrat hands for that one. Beginning more frivolous investigations. All that! Yes, I think they want to engage in voter fraud and are pursuing mail-in-voting and vote harvesting and opposing voter ID to achieve that goal.

    The DNC makes the mafia look like straight-up, honorable guys.

    1. Young., here you drop your pretense of being a ‘thoughtful lawyer’ to give us a cookie-cutter tirade in defense of Trump.

      One could switch your name with any number of puppets we have seen thse past few weeks and no would know the difference. Which goes to show that creating multiple puppets is actually more work than most activists can handle.

      1. Anonymous – for someone who is too gutless to come out of the shadows, you do not have the right to call anyone a “puppet.” Quit blow smoke and come out into the light.

      2. Wait.

        Young’s not a lawyer?

        I knew there was something about him I liked.

      3. Did the American Founders restrict access to and favor of the Constitution to lawyers?

    2. Young. US Attorneys are routinely replaced by new administrations. They are political appointees. Hard to imagine you’re a lawyer and don;t know this. IGs on the other hand are not routinely replaced and are intended to be as independent as possible within the executive branch.

      1. Indeed, Book, every new president shuffles U.S. Attorneys.

        I’m starting to think Young is written by more than one activist. There’s no consistency to his character.

        1. Just yesterday the leftist loons were complaing all my posts were banal and identical.

          My, my, poor confused lads.

          1. Young, Seth is a Sybil attack

            Sybil attacks are blocks of sockpuppets used to promote leftwing support from myriad users when in reality it is all paid propaganda from one entity

            Seth is a Sybil attack

            1. Billy– Thanks. I wondered what was wrong with that identity. That would explain it. One of them is really struggling with his “manliness” as he calls it, others don’t seem to have any. But, living in West Hollywood…

                1. Anonymous / Seth / Paintchips / Sybil is talking to herself again

                  time for a new batch of Meth for Petey

            2. Seth-Peter is obviously a real dude with his own voice as is anon-book and noxious natacha.

              but yes people tramping around the internet are tempted to use fake additional noms de plume to try and create dramatic effects.

              seasoned users of the internet chatroom/ forum./ anonymous comments format can usually detect the genuine voices and cut through the chaff. usually pretty easy. look for themes and linguistic patterns, not rocket science.

              now I would say that the avalanche of users who flooded the place after Turley’s testimony, those were indeed a coordinated push of BS’ers

              young is also obviously his own voice and not estovir as someone hypothesized

              1. One of Seth’s personalities ventured Estovir and I were the same. I can’t speak for Estovir but suspect he found it as amusing as I did. Neither of us bothered to deny it. Who cares?

                1. One mutation of Anonymous accused me of being one or Squeeky’s sock puppets. Since I’ve never made a decent limerick in my life, much less posted one here, that’s amusing.

    1. Not a good comparison. Turns out McCarthy was right. See ‘Blacklisted by History.’

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