“Gosh Almighty”: Democrats Call to End Durham Investigation Despite Proven Criminal Conduct

440px-John_H._DurhamBelow is my column in the Hill on the announced criminal plea by former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith and the continued calls by Democratic leaders to end the John Durham investigation. This week I discussed the call of Andrew Weissmann, one of the top prosecutors with Special Counsel Robert Mueller, for DOJ lawyers to refuse to help in the investigation despite his own conflict of interest. When the Clinesmith plea was announced, Weissmann proceeded to deride the charge and make spurious legal and factual claims about its basis.  The Weissmann call for DOJ lawyers to hinder this investigation is unprofessional and unwarranted but hardly uncommon in this rage-filled environment.

Here is the column:

Gosh almighty.” Those words from former Vice President Joe Biden sum up plenty about the announced criminal plea by former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith. Of course, Biden was not referring to the implications of the FBI lawyer who lied to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court for the efforts to continue the surveillance of an adviser to the campaign of Donald Trump. Nor was he referring to growing evidence that the Russia investigation was launched based on false and flawed evidence.

Biden was referring to the federal investigation by United States Attorney John Durham that led to the criminal plea by Clinesmith. Like most other Democrats, Biden previously denounced the investigation and the effort to look into criminality. Now that criminality has been found, Democrats and commentators still insist there are no reasons to continue it.

From the start, Democrats overwhelmingly condemned the investigation despite admitting Durham is a respected prosecutor. Leaders like House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff deemed the investigation “tainted” and “political.” Biden mocked the very idea of an “investigation of the investigators” and added, “Give me a break. Gosh almighty.”

These are the same figures who repeatedly cited plea agreements in the special counsel investigation by Robert Mueller as proof that real crimes were waiting to be found. When the plea by former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn was announced, it was seen as the critical development even though FBI agents said they did not believe Flynn had intentionally lied about his conversations with Russian diplomats.

Many in the media cited the plea by Flynn to disprove the insistence by Trump that the Mueller investigation was a hoax. But they are not citing the plea by Clinesmith to disprove the statement by Biden. Indeed, they have barely covered it. It does not appear to matter that Clinesmith said “viva la resistance” after the 2016 election or that, after claiming he was devastated by the victory of Trump, he lamented that “my god damned name was all over those legal documents investigating his staff.”

But several Democrats and commentators maintained there was never a targeting of the campaign before the special counsel appointment. That was untrue. Declassified documents show that an agent was used with a national security briefing of Trump and his aides during the campaign to gather information for the Russia investigation. Who did the agent report to? Clinesmith and Peter Strzok at the FBI, who infamously referred to his own “insurance” with the chance that Trump might be elected.

This is a plea agreement so it is not known what information Clinesmith may have shared. Moreover, this is just the first public move by Durham, just as Flynn was the early salvo for Mueller. But the date of this criminal false statement is key. In September 2016, administration officials leaked the existence of the classified investigation in the midst of the campaign and suggested Trump adviser Carter Page was a Russian agent.

This secret surveillance started the next month, based on that allegation against Page, when he was in fact an American asset. The FISA court was never told that information in the surveillance application was derived in part from the dossier, or that it was paid for by the opposition campaign. Nor was it told that at the time, FBI agents challenged both the bias and credibility for the dossier author and past British spy Christopher Steele, who was known to have given interviews for the media and claimed that he was trying to defeat Trump and assist the Clinton campaign.

In January 2017, Trump was inaugurated and FBI agents had sought to end their investigation of Flynn, citing no evidence of a crime. However, Strzok evidently wanted the collusion investigation to remain open and, later that month, Clinesmith also sought to renew that surveillance order over Page. His FISA application expressly cited the Steele dossier and described it as credible, despite knowing the different findings by FBI agents.

In February 2017, there were more leaks about alleged collusion by Trump officials with the Russians, a claim that even Strzok said was unsupported. The FBI was finding no evidence of collusion, while there was pressure to end the investigation. In June 2017, Clinesmith falsified an email in a third FISA application. What he was able to hide from the court was incredible. The court was told that Page might be a Russian asset for a conspiracy to influence the election as Clinesmith was told that Page was an American asset who was working by meeting with Russians. Clinesmith altered one critical email to state otherwise and extend the investigation.

When Clinesmith took this criminal action, the Russia collusion theory had already fallen apart. Both former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates declared they would never have signed off on all the surveillance applications if they knew then what they know today. Rosenstein called for the Durham investigation to finish, while Yates called for accountability for all of the misconduct.

With news of the criminal plea by Clinesmith, one might expect the media and our members of Congress to demand the same vigorous investigation from Durham as they did from Mueller. The collusion allegations that were noted to launch the Russia investigation were after all ultimately rejected. Durham is by contrast investigating the bias and misconduct.

So we have a collusion investigation that was shown to be based on false or unreliable information. It was launched and maintained by officials who were accused by an inspector general of misconduct, false statements, or procedural errors. Today we have the actual criminal guilty plea. However, many voices in Washington continue to insist that there are no reasons for Durham to continue digging. As Biden says, “Gosh almighty.”

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. You can find his updates online @JonathanTurley.

202 thoughts on ““Gosh Almighty”: Democrats Call to End Durham Investigation Despite Proven Criminal Conduct”

  1. Turley’s post claiming that Weissman was advocating that DOJ lawyers sabotage Durham’s investigation is an outright lie. Weissman argued that DOJ lawyers should not be a party to Barr’s attempt to influence the election by refusing to cooperate with Durham so that his report could not be finalized and thus released on the eve of the election. Weissman was merely advocating that the report should be DELAYED until AFTER the election whatever its findings in accordance with long-standing DOJ policy not to attempt to influence an impeding election which policy DOJ lawyers have taken an oath to uphold. Nowhere does Turley mention the ethical obligations of DOJ attorneys nor the fact of the DOJ policy against interfering with an election! Sadly, it would appear that Turley has become the handmaiden of Barr who will be remembered in the fullness of time as the Roy Cohn of Trumpism.

    1. Of course Weissman is obstructing justice and wants justice delayed. Justice delayed is justice denied

      silverman, Turley does not lie. You do

      1. “Justice delayed is justice denied”

        Then it shouldn’t have taken so long for Durham to charge Clinesmith. The DOJ IG referred the matter a year or so ago, and it was spelled out publicly in the Horowitz report last December.

        “Weissman is obstructing justice”

        And once again, you provide no evidence Kurtz.

        1. I dont need evidence. I write like a Democrat. LOL

          I just say what is obvious and Ii gotta say and say it a lot.

          its obvious Weissman is running interference for the stay behind saboteur team that Durham’s investigating. he is obstructing justice

          the evidence is his own words., you have failed to interpret them correctly because you are seeking to deceive. you can repeat your bogus nonsense every day, it is tiresome and tedious trolling, i can see and everyone else will get it too. might as well pack it in here and look for another pack of suckers to trick. we’re dug in deep here for the duration

          1. Jesus Kurtz, you’re a fine example of a willful ignorant. You have been given bona fife proof that what you believe Weissmann is saying is completely false. Rather than actually defend your position with facts you go off on an incoherent rant about anything other than the point CHTD clearly showed to be true.

            Turley has been caught lying in his column about Weissmann. Proof has been provided and no amount of monkey rage you spew is going to make it any less relevant. CHTD didn’t need to interpret anything because Weissmann and Goodman both proved Turley lied about their intent by exposing how Turley CHANGED crucial wording that CHANGED the context of what they said. You or anybody else has not been able to prove it wrong or even acknowledge the fact. You’re calling CHTD a troll because she exposed an unrefutable truth that you can’t handle. It’s like being shown a statement saying this guy had a blue pen and CHTD shows you a picture of the guy holding a black pen. You go into frothing rage because you don’t believe the picture of the guy in question holding a black pen. You WANT it to be blue despite the fact that it is actually black. Nothing is going to make that pen blue….because it never was. Seriously man. You have real issues recognizing reality.

        2. Seriously?
          ________

          “Weissmann is openly calling on attorneys to refuse to help on investigations that could raise questions about his own decisions.”

          – Professor Turley

      2. Kutz, for what it is worth, Weissman stated in his Op-Ed:

        “There’s no urgency for the department to take any overt investigative steps or make disclosures until after the election. Even if there has been criminal wrongdoing — which is by no means clear — charges can still be brought in November after the election.”

        A 3 month delay will not affect the criminal cases, if there are any more. Look, I know there is nothing that I can say to convince you otherwise. I can only pity you.

        1. “There’s no urgency for the department to take any overt investigative steps or make disclosures until after the election. Even if there has been criminal wrongdoing…”

          These bad actors. like Weismann, should have thought about that before they went about trying to change the results of the last election. Why should Barr/DOJ wait until after election to bring indictments for criminal wrong doing by the Mueller investigation team, Weismann, or anyone else? They were all acting in order to interfere in and affect the last election and the country needs to know what went on as soon as that information is available to act upon.

          1. Weismann knows there was criminal wrong doing. Everything is fair play. No delays.

        2. “A 3 month delay will not affect the criminal cases, if there are any more.”

          Jeffrey, that is nothing more than transparent wishful thinking for a Hail Mary pass into the end zone if Biden wins the election, and then kills the investigation.

          Not gonna happen. Durham lowering the boom on Clinesmith is just the opening salvo. Andrew Weissman knows that. Which is why he went into attack dog mode against JT.

          You and Weissman are just guilty dogs barking.

          1. Rhodes, CTHD showed proof that JT lied in his column. Weissmann also showed JT lied in his column. He had literally physical proof that JT lied. Nobody here has been able to refute the evidence against JT and most folks here claim to be lawyers. CTHD is doing what her handle says. “Committed To Honest Discussion”. Everyone else is going into tangents and faux rage over nonsensical subjects just to scour the basic fact that PROOF has been presented showing JT lied in his column.

    2. Mike Nifong might be able to edify you regarding fraudulent and malicious prosecution, conspiracy, entrapment, intimidation, abuse of power, Gestapo tactics, “singing,” “composing,” etc., ad infinitum.
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      “This vernacular is to ‘sing,’ is what prosecutors use. What you got to be careful of is, they may not only sing, they may compose.”

      – Judge T.S. Ellis III
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      Beer For My Horses

      Grandpappy told my pappy, back in my day, son
      A man had to answer for the wicked that he done
      Take all the rope in Texas find a tall oak tree,
      Round up all them bad boys hang them high in the street
      For all the people to see

      That justice is the one thing you should always find
      You got to saddle up your boys, you got to draw a hard line
      When the gun smoke settles we’ll sing a victory tune
      And we’ll all meet back at the local saloon
      We’ll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing
      Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses

      – Toby Keith

  2. Oh, the fun is just starting! The Occupy people (remember them?) are planning a 50 day “siege” of and “occupy” the White House. Wanna bet they can keep their troops from starting the old Seattle/Portland riot act? I don’t think they can. And unlike the riots now that aren’t being covered by the MSM much, riots in front of the White House will have to be covered. We’ll see how large the voting bloc is for backing the rioters once everyone is seeing them night after night.

    1. The organizers (“Adbusters”) are Canadians interfering in our domestic political process. They should be persecuted relentlessly as any Russians for their games.

      https://greatgameindia.com/white-house-siege/

      The Canadians can be deported, and the Americans who act under their racketeering plan, arrested and tried as common criminals.

    2. America is in a condition of hysteria, incoherence, chaos, anarchy and rebellion.

      President Abraham Lincoln seized power, neutralized the legislative and judicial branches and ruled by executive order and proclamation to “Save the Union.”

      President Donald Trump must now seize power, neutralize the legislative and judicial branches and rule by executive order and proclamation to “Save the Republic.”

  3. OT: Turley’s taking it up a notch.

    “As stated in my testimony, colleges and universities should expel any student and fire any professor who engages in violence on campus.”

    “They should also suspend any student who prevents others from speaking or listening to speakers. This does not include protesting outside of events, which is itself an exercise of free speech.”

  4. Professor Turley, what I would like to see is a list of the crimes you think these people (Clinesmith, McCabe, Comey, Brennan, et al.) should be investigated for. In other words, what may they have done what was illegal? Throw in Schiff, and Yovanovich, too. There is at least some lying to Congress in there (Brennan, Comey), lying to the FBI (McCabe), lying to the FISA Court, etc. Would be helpful to have a program so I can follow along. Too many crimes to keep it all straight…And, if it’s not too much to ask, any Hunter Biden/Secret Service/Goverment paid or protected trips would be of interest. Do you have a staff large enough to handle this? Thanks in advance. Your friend, Bob.

  5. OT

    NEW CHARGES FILED AGAINST JUSSIE SMOLLETT.

    Special prosecutor finds ‘substantial abuses of discretion’ in Jussie Smollett case as he concludes investigation. Special Prosecutor Dan Webb announced Monday he had concluded his investigation into the handling of last year’s Jussie Smollett hate-crime prosecution and found that Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx and her office made several false and misleading statements about the case. Webb also found that, though there were unauthorized “leaks” of information by members of the Chicago Police Department, the sources of the leaks could not be identified and evidence would not support criminal charges.
    The long-awaited report comes six months after Webb’s office filed a new, six-count indictment charging Smollett for faking a hate crime attack in 2019. However, Webb was also given a mandate to investigate how Foxx and CPD handled the case.
    ______________________________

    Why haven’t new charges been filed against the clearly guilty Hillary Clinton? FBI Director James Comey convicted Hillary in a 15-minute news conference and then acted as judge and jury and criminally exonerated her, as acts of negligence and dereliction by Comey. Of course, if Comey had indicted Hillary, Comey would have convicted Obama, her accomplice and illegal e-mail correspondent. The headline should be:

    NEW CHARGES FILED AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON.

  6. It’s been interesting to witness how openly hypocritical the political left has become over the last few years and how willing they are to showing it. It’s also been really interesting to see how the political left’s base eats up the propaganda styled rhetoric of their leaders and the media, it’s like feeding candy to children. It’s as if years of political apathy hasfertilized a breeding ground for stupidity.

    1. Not sure you have any standing to discuss stupidity, given the likelihood that your generalized comments about “the left” are accompanied with a willingness to be led by Trump.

      1. “It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.”

        – Maurice Switzer

      2. By the Book wrote, “Not sure you have any standing to discuss stupidity, given the likelihood that your generalized comments about “the left” are accompanied with a willingness to be led by Trump.”

        Interesting that you would come to such a conclusion since there is absolutely nothing in anything I wrote either in my comment or the blog post I shared that implies anything of the sort. Did you read something between the lines to justify your blind assumption?

    2. Witherspoon, your comment is perfectly vague. It’s basically a rubber stamp of a comment that could be posted on the threads of almost ‘any’ discussion. This stamp could be from the Nixon era, for all we know.

      1. Seth Warner wrote, “Witherspoon, your comment is perfectly vague. It’s basically a rubber stamp of a comment that could be posted on the threads of almost ‘any’ discussion. This stamp could be from the Nixon era, for all we know.”

        Of course you’re welcome to your own opinion but I think you’re wrong, dead wrong, especially in the 21st century and it really started to be overtly evident in the last 10 years. It’s been crystal clear since November 2016 that there are hordes of stupid people gaining power across the USA. Maybe you will understand my opinion a little better if you browsing through the blog post I shared.

        1. Witherspoon, since the Nixon era conservatives have hated mainstream media because it fails to validate their views. Yet since the Nixon era, Republicans have generally done quite well in state and national elections.

          So where is the actual damage done to conservatives?? There really is none. It’s just grievances for the sake of grievances. A never-ending effort to intimidate mainstream media.

          1. Witherspoon, since the Nixon era conservatives have hated mainstream media because it fails to validate their views.

            Actually, they’ve despised the media because they’re largely an aspect of the Democratic Party and a handsome deposit of social research had demonstrated how. You’re just not literate enough to make sense of it.

            1. Soros: globalist. Wants free movement of goods, capital, and labor across national borders. Read, free trade not fair trade; no restrictions on international finance; and mass migration into the USA and Western Europe

              this fits well with the general interests of most multinational corporations, who also own the US mainstream media, by and large.

              They all are paying the Democrats like Pelosi to do their bidding. Soros #2 donor to Democrats, after billionaire Tom steyer, first half 2020 per FEC data

              They also support the BLM national riot plan, which is intended to bully and intimidate whites, and working class people of all races, into silence and fearful submission to the Democrat party agenda.

              They are all, enemies of the American people. We will unite against the plutocracy and their quislings. There will be revenge. It may take a while but it will come

            2. Absurd, I’ve said it before and I’ll say again: “Conservative ideas never hold up to well-written, detailed articles”. And that’s ‘why’ conservatives hate the best newspapers.

              1. “conservatives” approved by the same global financial oligarchy that owns newspapers, are rarely allowed to advance from obscurity if they are truly wise and competent. “conservatives” elevated by the likes of the richest man in the world Jeff Bezos who owns Wapoo, are not really “conservative” at all

                I am not sure how “conservative” Trump really is. I will say that he has some policy positions that were long championed by Pat Buchanan and few others. Perhaps Sam Francis was a conservative. But he’s long gone. Pat I find readable even today, and he was convincing to me in my youth. I doubt he is carried by few if any newspapers anymore. But Trump certainly acts like Democrat with all his bluster and fibbing, and in policy, by elevating Fair Trade over free trade, and by taking a non-interventionist trajectory, one might argue he has opened a new pro-working-class page for “conservatives” that had been hobbled the past few decades by ideological Milton Friedmanism and expansionist foreign policy schemers like John Bolton.

                The alphabet soup of “conservative” outfits which have truck in DC are not “conservative” either. I am tempted to say, Anglo-Saxon conservatism is almost nonexistent anymore. I think now of a little known professor I also like, Paul Gottfried. But he is not well known in the Swamp.

                I’ll tell you three conservatives names that do still matter, even though all of them were Germans who are long dead.

                man of letters Ernst Junger — see his books, “Storm of Steel” and “On Pain”. some call him a “conservative revolutionary”

                man of philosophy, Martin Heidegger. Little known outside of professional philosophy, but profoundly impactful especially for the postwar Left that had absorbed some of his most important insights. and misapplied them perhaps, or perhaps not.

                man of politics Carl Schmitt. “Nomos of the Earth,” “Concept of the Political,” and “Crisis of Parliamentary Democracies” are all as relevant as ever.

          2. Seth Warner wrote, “Witherspoon, since the Nixon era conservatives have hated mainstream media because it fails to validate their views. Yet since the Nixon era, Republicans have generally done quite well in state and national elections.

            So where is the actual damage done to conservatives?? There really is none. It’s just grievances for the sake of grievances. A never-ending effort to intimidate mainstream media.”

            You’re still talking about the early 1970’s with Nixon, Seriously? This is gaslighting bull shit.

            How about you try catching up to the 21st century and the realities we’re dealing with right now.

          3. Seth, let’s be honest. The mainstream media is comprised of multinational corporations that have globalist interests and editorial policies.

            They are supranational entities that have zero patriotism and hire specifically, employees who lack it as well.

            They are enemies of the people.

            1. Kurtz, mainstream media are businesses selling information. Discerning buyers buy the best and can tell if they are being sold BS or not. That;s how capitalism works and why Trump U and Trump steaks failed. The NYTs, WSJ, WaPo, and Bloomberg are on the desks and screens of business and government leaders everyday for a reason.

              1. I know you are a businessman but not schooled in economics. But you probably understand through experience that there are some industries that have massive barriers to entry. One barrier to entry, can be, massive capital investment. If you want to circulate a newspaper it takes a big outlay. So the rich will always have an advantage where mass media is concerned.

                Using such barriers to entry, inferior quality “information” which is little more than propaganda, can be “sold” to float the enterprise. And as we know from the movie classic Citizen Kane, that billionaires like the richest man in the world Jeff Bezos, who owns Wapo, may choose to direct editorial policy in a way that causes them to make suboptimal or even money losing propaganda campaigns, because it suits them for whatever whims or reasons.

                If you don’t get this, then you should rewatch Citizen Kane. They call it a classic for a lot of reasons but this insight is a big one.

                To recap, the “information product” sold by American mass media, is not only of inferior quality, it is literally intellectual poison. Why? Because the billionaire controllers of those enterprises want us intellectually enfeebled and incapable of resisting their plans.

                I am not at this time a big fan of “capitalism.” Personally, I would like to see the “socialist” tool of antitrust law, given to us by Teddy Roosevelt, brought into play to smash Twitter, Google, Amazon, and apple into a thousand pieces. This would greatly benefit the American people!

                1. Kurtz, by your theory the smartest people in America are suckers for a scam and buying a poor quality product, but you are somehow above this and collecting information from …….where? You understand that the Daily Caller doesn’t have news desks and stringers in Minsk and Albequerque, right? You get that Powerline comments on what he reads online and ultimately from the NYTs and WSJ and WaPo, right?

                  Please, tell us WTF you are talking about. It makes no sense.

            2. Kurtz, Fox News is first and foremost one of those global corporations. Rupert Murdoch was born in Australia and spent most of his adult life in London. Murdoch has meddled extensively in Australian politics, British politics and American politics. Murdoch is not even a real American. One could argue that the average Dreamer is more American than Rupert Murdoch.

              1. I am not a big Murdoch fan so you can say what you like. Fox has its limitations. They mostly operate within the standard boundaries of American liberalism too.

                but they try to be fair to Trump, and that fetches them a big share.

          4. Seth Warner wrote, “Yet since the Nixon era, Republicans have generally done quite well in state and national elections.”, “So where is the actual damage done to conservatives?? There really is none.”

            Those sir are unethical rationalizations! That’s number 8 on the list of Unethical Rationalizations and Misconceptions.

            By the way there is absolutely no way to prove that there has actually been no damage done to conservatives.

            Seth Warner wrote,“It’s just grievances for the sake of grievances. A never-ending effort to intimidate mainstream media.”

            You sir are quite full of shit. Among All The Smoking Guns Showing The Mainstream Media’s Willingness to Lie Outright To Impugn President Trump, This Might Be The Smokingest

    3. I have several friends who are successful, educated, productive citizens who just eat this crap up, plugged in 24/7 to CNN. They are not stupid. They are just so angry they have lost all perspective and common sense, and any sense of logic or reason. They can’t discuss anything anymore, just rave and rant. All yelling, no listening. It is just amazing. Who in the hell wound these people up so tight? It’s the strangest thing.

      1. Bob Lawblaw wrote, “I have several friends who are successful, educated, productive citizens who just eat this crap up, plugged in 24/7 to CNN. They are not stupid. They are just so angry they have lost all perspective and common sense, and any sense of logic or reason. They can’t discuss anything anymore, just rave and rant. All yelling, no listening. It is just amazing. Who in the hell wound these people up so tight? It’s the strangest thing.”

        I think it’s clear that stupidity does explain “some” of what we are seeing, especially recently, but the part you’re talking about there is something else going on and that’s why I started questioning things like this, is it Ignorance or Societal Brainwashing?

        1. Steve, I get the feeling you’re the same old troll he keeps haunting these threads with yet another new name. Your whole argument here is just a vague harangue about mainstream media ‘spreading stupidity’. But nothing in your comments projects any fresh insight. You’re not saying anything that couldn’t have been written on the back of a matchbook.

          1. Seth Warner wrote, “Steve, I get the feeling you’re the same old troll he keeps haunting these threads with yet another new name. Your whole argument here is just a vague harangue about mainstream media ‘spreading stupidity’. But nothing in your comments projects any fresh insight. You’re not saying anything that couldn’t have been written on the back of a matchbook.”

            Nope you’re wrong. Today is my first time ever commenting on here.

            Also, you’re acting just like typical progressive trolls that I see all over the internet, you’re attacking the messenger because you can’t effectively argue against the points I raise. Acting like an intellectually stunted internet troll is no way to go though life Seth, but you’re welcome to make your own choices.

            1. Witherspoon, you haven’t raised any point! All you’re saying is that mainstream media isnt fair to conservatives. And conservatives have been saying that for 50 years. Yet Republicans have won plenty of elections in those 50 years.

              So, as I pointed out before, there’s no evidence to suggest that Republicans have been handicapped by that alleged ‘bias’. What’s more, for every Trumper complaining about mainstream media, there’s a Bernie Bro complaining about mainstream media. Furthermore, neither Obama nor the Clintons was happy with the media coverage they got. No president should expect ‘fair’ coverage of their presidency.

              1. Every head of state comes to grips with the subversive nature of the global plutocracy and its lie machine, the mass media.

                Even Obama and Clinton did. They were not all bad.

                As soon as any POTUS takes the helm, the global financial elites begin working on him, to enact their agenda. People need to get a grip on how the global financial elites are directing policy for their own goals which come at the expense of the nations and most of all the American nation.

                Steppinfetchits will always sing their praises, hoping for crumbs to be tossed their way. Seth, break free of your intellectual chains, you have the open air of free thinking men right outside the cell of your mental confinement! Consider the interests of the people and quit hauling water for Jeff Bezos the richest man in the world or Mikey Bloomberg, wow, there’s another centi-billionaire media master. Seth, why would you strive so tireless for them? To them you and I are insects.

        1. Steve, that’s interesting, but all those things that preceded the common sense, were features of culture that were kept intact by people cooperating.

          The individual is not the repository of common sense. The culture is. Culture comes from large groups of closely tied people.

          Conservatives have to discover “We” to win because “me” is going to lose every time

          Put a different way– the only way to fight fire, is with fire

          If a mob is sent against us, we must assemble a bigger better mob.

          It’s coming down to that. Think it over. Conservatives, Republicans, Trump people, white folks, law and order citizens of any race, must understand:

          individualism is a dead end.

          we now hang together or will hang separately.

          this will be won by groups or not at all

          1. Mr Kurtz wrote, “It’s coming down to that. Think it over. Conservatives, Republicans, Trump people, white folks, law and order citizens of any race, must understand: individualism is a dead end. we now hang together or will hang separately. this will be won by groups or not at all”

            We are in violent agreement, Seriously People, WAKE UP!!!!

            1. Steve thanks for sharing your blog. It’s an interesting read.

              I noticed a thing that says individualism is part of western culture. This is true. But we have amplified it to a fault and it’s being used against us by financial powers that are trying to wipe us out. We need more solidarity now at this time and all we need to do is look back to the origins of individualism in ancient Greece to remember how they DID COME TOGETHER to defend the “POLIS” ie the city by use of the PHALANX where citizens marched shoulder to shoulder as one unit with discipline and self sacrifice to survive

              here is an old greek saying we need to spread now

              “EIS ANER, OUDEIS ANER”

              one man, no man

              stick together– we’re all in the “woodpile” together, like it or not!

              1. Mr. Kurtz wrote, “I noticed a thing that says individualism is part of western culture.”

                Nope, that’s the controversial chart that the The National Museum of African American History and Culture (NMAAHC) posted about “White Culture”.  It wasn’t covered by most of the left leaning media back in mid July when they posted it. Read the whole post.  Also, here is a blog post from an ethicist at Ethics Alarms about the chart: KABOOM! Anti-White Stereotyping At The Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture

                1. oh, i see. nonetheless i think it is fair to say that there is degree of individualism that is part of western culture

                  that degree made us great– but now the degree is toxic and it makes us weak–
                  weak because we are isolated against larger packs of human savages running amuck in the streets in a state of anarchy

                  we need to stick together now or never

              2. Mr. Kurtz wrote, “Steve thanks for sharing your blog. It’s an interesting read.”

                Thanks. Writing a couple of articles in a magazine inspired me to start the blog last year.

      2. I had a lot of friends in “Chicagoland” that were ill at ease with trump about a year ago

        Now there’s a lot more “ill at ease” with roving BLM riot squads looting and attacking Chicago Police

        We gonna find out how people like that vote come November. We gonna find out

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