We have been discussing the use of the criminal code by Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel (D) to threaten people who post videos on alleged voter fraud or legislators who raise such objections in the state. These threats are coercive and abusive, particularly when targeting opponents of your party who are challenging the victory of your candidate for president. Yet, as shown by a congressman seeking to disbar dozens of Trump lawyers, such threats are popular in today’s rage-filled politics. So, Nessel continued her threats of prosecution on Monday in warning that a former state senator could be prosecuted for alleging possible voter fraud at a meeting of the Michigan Board of State Canvassers. So, raising voting fraud at the board overseeing voting is now a possible basis for prosecution in Michigan.
Former state Sen. Patrick Colbeck (R) raised his concerns during the meeting. He was appropriately asked if he had brought his allegations of voter fraud to the state attorney general. Julie Matuzak (D) asked “If you’re alleging fraud in this election, have you taken it to the attorney general, your evidence?” She noted that the board has little ability to investigate such claims. Colbeck responded “I’ve submitted my affidavits to lawyers, and we’ve moved it up the chain that way. I can submit it to anybody you’d like me to submit it to.”
Of course, many Republicans in the state may be a tad reluctant to reach out to Nessel given her threats of prosecution against citizens and legislators alike.
As if to fulfill that view, Nessel immediately responded with yet another threat of prosecution. She noted that Colbeck “has never made a complaint of election fraud” to her office and then added “Colbeck’s assertions aside, intentionally making a false claim of criminal activity to law enforcement is itself a crime. It’s been my experience that is often the reason certain reports are not made.”
Yet, the “reasons certain reports are not made” may have something to do with Nessel’s continued threat to prosecute people making such reports. That threat is directed not just at Colbeck but those who signed these affidavits. In other words, you must submit your allegations of fraud to me but I may prosecute you if you submit your allegations of fraud to me. Hardly an inviting prospect.
I tend to view these stories from the perspective of a criminal defense attorney. These citizens are coming forward to allege what they believe were instances of voter fraud. They may be wrong in what they perceived or what they believe is fraud. However, we want voters to feel free to come forward. Affidavits are signed on penalty of perjury. There are cases of such perjury cases or false police reports that are prosecuted. However, one would think that Nessel would be encouraging submissions of such complaints to her office, not threatening those who may do so.
Nessel’s approach is akin to the state health director encouraging every one to come in for a check up but warning that some will be subject to euthanasia. The invitation is lost in the lingering threat.
While the Democrats and the media continue to raise threats against democracy, they are entirely oblivious to the implications Nessel’s use of the criminal code to threat those who question the victory of Joe Biden. They are equally silent (as is Biden himself) on a campaign of threats and intimidation against both lawyers and legislators questioning the election. It is part of a toxic atmosphere where Democratic members are calling for blacklists and others denounce any questioning of the Biden victory as akin to “Holocaust denial.” The Lincoln Project has led a national effort to harass any lawyers who represent Republicans or the Trump campaign.
Nessel adds a particularly menacing element to this campaign in her use of her office to threaten prosecution against those who post videos on voting fraud, legislators who raise objections to the certification, or even voters who allege improprieties. Yet, she cannot understand why anyone would fail to contact her with allegations of voting irregularities.
SMH, Trump just had a press conference (taking no questions) to tout that the Dow Jones had hit a record high, ignoring that it broke 30,000 on the news about the Biden transition. For Trump, it’s all about him. He can’t see that it’s about him leaving office.
Reuters: “Dow hits all-time high as the formal go-ahead for the Biden transition ends weeks of uncertainty”
I just hope he doesn’t do too much more damage to the county in the next two months.
I wonder whether he’s going to resign a couple of days early after trying to make a deal with Pence to pardon him.
Pence would be leaving with Trump on January 20th! Let the grown ups work on this son!
Yes, that’s why my comment was about Trump resigning a couple of days early, which would make Pence President for a couple of days before Inauguration Day.
Really.? Do you really belive what you say ? Sir? Sounds a bit.Liberal to me…oh, so who is” Commit To Honest Discussion” ?
She is a Turkey that should be slo roasted for thanksgiving for the rest of us.
The old, and true, saying is that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich.
This AG appears to be threatening to turn anyone who protests suspected voter fraud into a ham sandwich.
Comments below defending this autocrat say that she is only quoting existing law. True. But it seems to be meant as a threat.
Welcome to Ham Sandwich Nation and watch your step–and watch your mouth, comrade.
https://rumble.com/vbd2il-google-vote-reminders-only-went-to-liberals-not-conservatives-for-at-least-.html
https://rumble.com/vayzwi-trump-landslide-election-2020.html
Pennsylvania vote is certified. That’s it. Election is over. Biden won.
Somebody break it to mespo.
Biden’s won so many times in Michigan, legally he has to change his name to Ohio State.
Surprise the news made it to Russia so fast, Joe.
Trump still can’t accept that he lost the election.
This morning, he tweeted “Poll: 79 Percent of Trump Voters Believe ‘Election Was Stolen‘ https://breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/23/poll-79-of-trump-voters-believe-election-was-stolen-through-illegal-voting-and-fraud/ via @BreitbartNews They are 100% correct, but we are fighting hard. Our big lawsuit, which spells out in great detail all of the ballot fraud and more, will soon be filled.”
I’m sure that it will be “soon,” just like he’s been promising for 4 year that he’d be releasing his health plan soon.
I wonder where he’s going to file his “big lawsuit.”
After his tax returns and after he unveils his health care plan.
And millions of people still believe this clown when all evidence says he’s lying and his self serving motives are always on full display. Something wrong with these people.
Yup. Trump will be out of office come Inauguration Day, but they’ll still be voters, so somehow we’re going to have to help them recognize what a con artist he is.
How do you keep an idiot in suspense?
Trump (and Sidney) will tell you tomorrow. And it will be epic, just you wait and see!
It’s very educational to observe who Turley predictably takes aim at. JT professes to be outraged at elected officials who threaten anyone who targets opponents of their party who are challenging the victory of their candidate for president. So last week our Republican President fired his Cybersecurity Agency chief for announcing that after an extensive investigation, 59 election security experts found “no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.”
If a Democrat president had done that, Turley would undoubtedly devote several searing blog posts to condemn it.
Yesterday, Trump’s attorney, Jenna Ellis, once again declared Trump won in a landslide & insisted the election was stolen. Trump attorneys completely dismiss Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State finding no evidence of voter fraud in his state’s election results. They completely dismiss Michigan elected officials certifying the results in their state after finding no voting irregularities. They completely dismiss the unanimous conclusions by our country’s top election security experts that we just had the most secure election on record.
Chris Christie calls Trump’s attorneys a national embarrassment. Rush Limbaugh knocks Trump’s attorneys for failing to produce any evidence of voter fraud.
Meanwhile Turley condemns Michigan’s AG. A noticeable pattern is fully on display here.
Don’t forget that Trump pressured Barr in public to arrest Biden and Obama and we heard not a peep out of Turley about it. The firing of Krebs was an outrage and attemptto stifle the truth, but Turley doesn’t care about that either.
+100
You don’t seem to know the difference between protecting a citizen’s civil liberties and freedom of speech from everything else. If you did you wouldn’t be saying some of the things you do.
Chris Krebs deserved to be fired for writing a letter about the conduct of an election that he never had the time or inclination to investigate. He used his position for political ammunition and that report was used as a weapon by the President’s opposition and their cooperating ‘news’ organizations. Being fired weighs no where near what being arrested or prosecuted does….
RacePace7, nicely stated. Turley is a sellout I’m afraid. When you work for Faux News, it means that cannot get respectable work. It will be interesting to see how long Turley remains at Faux after Trump is kicked out on his ass. He may stick around to give his legal analysis during Trump’s civil and criminal trials. It seems that Turley is one of the few legal scholars willing to sully his reputation by legitimating the demagoguery of Hannity and Carlson by virtue of his appearance on their programs. I’m sure Alex Jones would welcome Turley on Infowars to lend credence to that broadcast. Why Turley thinks Faux is a cut above Infowars, we will never know. I guess he really needs the money.
Drop and Roll
https://rumble.com/vb8ksn-drop-and-roll-how-the-2020-election-was-stolen-from-donald-trump.html
Drop And Roll
Remember all those whisteblowers who told true accounts of what Trump did in Ukraine in the impeachment hearing? and Trump fired them for telling the truth?
And if the Michigan AG prosecuted people who lie under oath, that would be wrong?
Remember all those whisteblowers who told true accounts of what Trump did in Ukraine in the impeachment hearing? and Trump fired them for telling the truth?
No, I don’t. Refresh my memory.
Sure Olly, Vindeman, Yovanovich, and Sondland.
They were whisteblowers? I don’t recall that. Were they fact witnesses or did they testify that they had first hand direct evidence of a QPQ?
VERDICT: FALSE. Sondland said that he “presumed” there was a “quid pro quo.” But he did not have any first-hand knowledge of one, and other witnesses have test
The recently released transcript for former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch reveals that the purported “quid pro quo” in the July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky does not exist.
“Ambassador, there’s been, and Chairman Schiff kind of alluded to this, and when we start talking about Javelins and foreign aid, for the record, I want to make sure that we’re clear. The foreign aid that was has been reported as being held up, it doesn’t relate to Javelins, does it?” he asked Yovanovitch.
“No. At least I’m not aware that it does,” said Yovanovitch.
Joe Biden: Fire the prosecutor or you don’t get the money. Of course the Biden Family was getting rich in Ukraine.
I think this is telling us that you can’t trust those with the first name Joe. (Joe Friday)
There is a news article which says the DOW is up in value today. What is a DOW? I looked it up on Google and they say Don’t Own Weapons.
I am for the 2nd Amendment right to arm bears.
Trump said the market would tank if Biden were elected, but instead, the DOW increased after Murphy announced the formal go-ahead for the Biden transition.
So if an individual alleges they witnessed voter fraud occurring and they sign an affidavit, they are subject to criminal prosecution if it isn’t proven? On top of that, attorneys representing these individuals are threatened with sanctions and/or disbarment if they lose? And yet Christine Blasey-Ford et al. is lionized and her Senate handlers are reelected, with one slated for being our next VP. The cherry on top is of course the Russiagate fraud and the laundry list of individuals that evidence proves participated in trying to remove a duly elected president. Biden mentioned us entering a dark winter. He may be correct, if that was a euphemism for the life cycle our nation. We’ve become a RINO country; Republic in Name Only. Time will tell if and when we’ll get another Spring.
OLLY: “We’ve become a RINO country; Republic in Name Only. Time will tell if and when we’ll get another Spring.”
America- love it or leave it! No one is begging you to stay…
No one is begging you to stay…
There’s no way you could no that’s true. Regardless, I have no need to ask.
Day 5 and no Dominion lawsuit ? If they’re not guilty why don’t they sue for Billions?
They have a few months to sue for libel. They may still. I would think that is why Trump, Rudy and the other lawyers are pinning this solely on Sidney so she is the only one sued – and she likely does not have billions.
Method of safe voting. Camera at the ballot boxed catching desk and ballot and face of voter. Voter goes to scanner and ballot acceptor. Ballot scanned. Ballot placed in voting box for later recount if need be. When ballot is given to voter he or she has given voter ID and the voter and ID are photographed.
Not a fan of secret ballots, huh?
Don’t want the military or others to be able to vote by mail?
Typical strawman lib deflective response. You can never directly confront the real problem: dems need for illegal voting to pump up their dwindling numbers among living true Americans.
Typical fallacious response from Alma Carman, where she assumes what she can’t prove.
The military’s polling place is the mess hall – including conservative/republican observers who communicate results.
If the communists didn’t illegally giveaway tons of unconstitutional “free stuff,” the parasites would have not need or reason to vote.
There is no need for parasites to vote if they’re not going to obtain more and evermore “free stuff.”
The election of George Washington in 1788 experienced an 11.6% turnout – by design.
The Founders didn’t allow parasites to vote – again, by design.
You are the enemy.