We recently discussed how figures like New York Times columnist Tom Friedman calling on people to move to Georgia to rig the vote in favor of a Democratic takeover of the Senate. It did not seem to matter to either the newspaper or Friedman that he was encouraging the commission of a felony. Yet, Friedman is not a lawyer. What is more disconcerting is that lawyers are alleged to be involved in such efforts. Recently, Georgia officials confirmed that they are investigating The New Georgia Project — a group founded by lawyer Stacey Abrams — for allegedly seeking to register out of state voters and deceased individuals. On the Republican side, Florida attorney Bill Price is facing a more direct and serious investigation than Abrams (who has not been personally implicated in such actions). Price is shown in a video boasting of his own registration in Georgia at the home of his brother and encouraging others to do the same.
These groups often have ample legal advisers who are aware of the calls for fraudulent registrations. The commission of such crimes would occur despite express warnings from state officials and raise question of willful blindness on the part of counsel.
Now we have a video of Price speaking to Bay County GOP members in Florida calling for registrations using false addresses. The date is notable. It was Nov. 7th, just after the election was called for Joe Biden. Price explains that it is unlikely to overturn the results of the presidential election in court and then states:
“We absolutely have to hold the Senate and we have to start fighting back, and we have to do whatever it takes. And if that means changing your address for the next two months, so be it. I’m doing that. I’m moving to Georgia and I’m gonna fight and I want you all to fight with me.”
He is referring to his brother Hiram and spells out his name and address for those in the room to write down. One women is heard asking “We can truly register at that address?”
Price responds “sure” and notes that they can register anywhere in the state to vote in the runoff. He goes into details like having mail sent to the address to satisfy state rules. While his brother has claimed that the remarks were “tongue and cheek,” the statements would seem to belie that defense.
Deidre Holden, Paulding County’s election supervisor, confirmed that they have a voter registration pending for Price. What is more interesting is that the office is going to ask him to bring in his driver’s license to “cure” and complete the registration. That could be raised as a defense that Price never actually registered.
It would still arguably constitute solicitation and conspiracy. Here is the provisions under Georgia law:
(a) (1) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct.
(2) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the second degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a misdemeanor under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct.
(b) (1) A person convicted of the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than three years.
(2) A person convicted of the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the second degree shall be punished as for a misdemeanor.
(c) It is no defense to a prosecution for criminal solicitation to commit election fraud that the person solicited could not be guilty of the crime solicited.
(d) The provisions of subsections (a) through (c) of this Code section are cumulative and shall not supersede any other penal law of this state.
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21-2-603. Conspiracy to commit election fraud
A person commits the offense of conspiracy to commit election fraud when he or she conspires or agrees with another to commit a violation of this chapter. The crime shall be complete when the conspiracy or agreement is effected and an overt act in furtherance thereof has been committed, regardless of whether the violation of this chapter is consummated. A person convicted of the offense of conspiracy to commit election fraud involving a violation of this chapter which is a felony shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one year nor more than one-half the maximum period of time for which he or she could have been sentenced if he or she had been convicted of the crime conspired to have been committed, by one-half the maximum fine to which he or she could have been subjected if he or she had been convicted of such crime, or both. A person convicted of the offense of conspiracy to commit election fraud involving a violation of this chapter which is a misdemeanor shall be punished as for a misdemeanor.
The facilitation or encouragement of fraudulent voting could obviously expose Price to bar actions, if proven.
There are reportedly over 250 such cases under investigation in Georgia concerning registration for the runoff election, which is not surprising given the irresponsible calls from figures like Friedman and Price. However, the involvement of attorneys in such efforts is particularly alarming.
I have been highly critical of the role of lawyers in some of the worst aspects of the post-election rage. Thousands of lawyers have supported the Lincoln Project in its campaign of abuse and harassment of other lawyers representing the Republican Party or the President. The silence from lawyers in failing to condemn this improper campaign is deafening.
It is an example of how rage has overcome reason in our politics, including the role of lawyers committing even violent acts as forms of protest.
So what’s new about lawyers saying crazy things? This article is about lawyers encouraging the breaking of the law. It is a sad commentary on the morality of the lawyers involved. This article is a calling for a higher standard for those educated in the law. They know better but they just don’t really care about justice.
Detroit City Worker Says Election Workers Were Told to Backdate Ballots
were directed to backdate about 100,000 absentee ballots, or about 10,000 per day.”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/detroit-city-worker-says-she-was-told-to-backdate-up-to-100000-ballots_3603313.html
Populist, The Epoch Times again..?? Is that a Michigan newspaper? ..No..!
Here’s a challenge: ‘Show us a well-established Michigan source that features this same story’.
You again with your “show us your tits” lines. it is not even Mardi Gras yet! You are such a pervert
Ninny is our regular troll who aspires to be the first and last responder to virtually every comment. ..And he is..!!
Says the Troll
I can’t say every newspaper is right all the time but I can say that the Epoch Times has been correct much more frequently than the Washington Post. Additionally the Epoch Times will admit mistakes. The Washington Post seldom does. The Steele Dossier should never be forgotten. The Washington Post promoted it while the Epoch Times rejected it.
You should learn the difference between truth and falsehood, but that, it appears, is beyond your capabilities.
Populist, The Epoch Times is a nothing of a paper that was going nowhere until they found a market echoing Trump talking points. If their story had any credibility, you would find leading Michigan sources to back it up.
You are talking about credibility? One has to laugh.
If you have a gripe about something the Epoch Times says prove they are wrong. You can’t, but history has shown the Washington Post to be wrong on a continuous basis.
The WaPO, along with the NYTs, WSJ, etc were all shown the Steele Dossier in Sept of 2016 by Fusion GPS. They passed on running anything on it before the election, and did not until it was published by a tabloid in Jan 2017.
Joe, that’s an important point. American’s didn’t learn about the Steele Dossier until about a week before Trump’s inaugeration in January of 2017. And at that point the story was broken by the Daily Beast. Only then did mainstream media reluctantly cover it.
You don’t know if they reluctantly covered it or not. It rightfully ended up as a reputation killer. They thought Hillary was going to win so their thinking may have been that there was no reason to further compromise their ethics. Then Trump won. Perhaps that shocked them into action no longer caring about the truth or their reputation.
JF, I’ll respond this time because there is some truth in what you write. The NYT and WP along with the FBI knew it was garbage, but when they saw an opportunity they took it and ran with it continuously using it as proof of the phony news they were reporting. They didn’t stop using a report they knew was bogus until the egg on their face was too prominent.
What you say demonstrates how bad those newspapers are.
Already debunked in court.
Not so.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/nov/05/allegations-usps-election-fraud-michigan-dont-hold/
Millions of us can’t help but wonder what usefulness of lawyers be in situations coming up fast?
“And what history teaches that if Trump does not respond to this Reichstag Fire of stealing the election, all of us are in grave danger.”
https://thecommonsenseshow.com/activism-conspiracy-martial-law/what-will-happen-if-trump-does-not-enact-insurrection-act-within-10-days
Turley:
“We recently discussed how figures like New York Times columnist Tom Friedman calling on people to move to Georgia to rig the vote in favor of a Democratic takeover of the Senate. ”
I didn’t know it was a felony to move to Georgia, though I’m sure we all can agree it should be.
Otherwise Turley says there are 250 cases being investigated. 250 cases!! Yikes, that’s almost enough to overturn the results in Rome or Athens, and even a few places in Georgia. Of course Turley has nothing to say about the ridiculous and destructive efforts to undermine our democracy by his leader Trump or any of his buddies on Fox News because HE HAS NO PRINCIPLES!
Only pretense.
Better this way than the inevitable removal of the sociaist left by our military.
Illustrative of “when they go low, we go low.”
Turley continues to condemn attacks on Trump attorneys even though their clearly stated mission is to overturn the election & invalidate millions of Biden ballots. JT is clearly unmoved by National Review editors collectively concluding that “Almost nothing that the Trump team has alleged has withstood the slightest scrutiny. “ Turley isn’t bothered that a county chairman of the Republican Party in Georgia said “You’ve got these lunatics out there, Lin Wood and Sidney Powell, just inventing absolute fiction. Anytime it goes to court, it gets laughed out.”
Turley’s outrage is entirely directed at any attorneys who speak out against Trump attorneys. JT is clearly letting his intense love affair with Sidney Powell color his commentary.
“Turley continues to condemn attacks on Trump attorneys even though their clearly stated mission is to overturn the election & invalidate millions of Biden ballots. ”
That sounds like you are making things up. One citizen one vote would be a more appropriate.
You are beginning to sound like some others that seem to have lost it. Perhaps you could phrase your statement more appropriately.
…And people say there is no need to maintain up to date and honest registration files for voting.
Allan, how about you name some of the people who say that?
I hope this is untrue. This type of alleged behavior is exactly why the populace ends up distrusting the vote. Just because they do it too is not an excuse.
Can any of you lawyers point out exactly where in the Constitution it states how many Civil War veterans are permitted to vote in 21st century presidential elections?
Our government processes are in need of constant de-gaming. Yet, we entrust design and administration of elections to partisan electees. We need a strong, non-partisan referee role in such matters.
Why the concern? Political power benefits no one, certainly not Americans, except for those pursuing “higher office”, e.g. Barack Obama
Meanwhile a legend has passed away and that merits everyones attention.
RIP, Professor Walter E. Williams,
Obama’s Presidency hasn’t meant very much for the black community. I don’t see any big changes, I don’t see lower crime rates, I don’t see greater high school graduation rates…. but in general I don’t think that there is much progress that blacks can make through the political arena
If you look at our country and you ask the question in what cities do blacks have the highest crime suffer, from the highest victimized victimization rates from crime, the rottenness schools, the very poor living conditions, they are in the very cities where a black is the mayor, a black is Chief of Police, a black is the superintendent of schools. now I’m not stating a causal relationship but I’m saying that if political power meant so much you would expect. Let’s say in a city like Philadelphia where a black is the mayor, a black superintendent of schools, a black chief police, you would expect every living conditions to be wonderful. but on the other hand if you look at the other end of another group of people, let’s say Chinese and Japanese, they don’t have any political power even in the places such on the west coast where there are the most murders…. however according to statistics Japanese or Chinese are in on any measure of socioeconomic success they’re at the very top. and as a matter of fact if you look into our history of our country, the Irish had the greatest political power but they’re the slowest rising of any of the white ethnic groups in our country. so I think it’s false to assume that the economic power depends on political power
Turley: I know, right???
These attorneys should behave honorably and wear dripping hair dye on their heads, or call for enemies to be drawn and quartered (before or after being shot???).
Should’ve become a NeverTrumper, Jon.
-Elvis Bug
“These attorneys should behave honorably and wear dripping hair dye on their heads, or call for enemies to be drawn and quartered (before or after being shot???)”
Yes, Stacy Abrams should “be drawn and quartered (before or after being shot???)”
Bravo for the Bug!
the Bug says many incoherent things but the above post about drawn/quatering Stacey Abrams…..priceless
Did you miss that Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani was the one with dripping hair dye, and Trump lawyer Joe diGenova was the one who said Christopher Krebs (former U.S. cybersecurity official) should be “taken out at dawn and shot” and “drawn and quartered”?
Abrams is a disgrace. Her partisan non-profit is funded by California liberals to provide her a pay check. Her organization has sent registration requests to my son who moved away 7 years ago and my father who died 6 year ago.
It is an example of how rage has overcome reason in our politics, including the role of lawyers committing even violent acts as forms of protest.
Breaking News: Lawyers Alleged To Be Blatantly Violating The Law!
This is only news if you haven’t been paying attention. They are frontline lawfare soldiers. To be fair, these efforts used to be more clandestine. But given the fact the risk of punishment is minimal, why not just come out of the shadows and be known for your noble efforts. After all, if their schemes work, they will be heroes and protected by the ruling class. They may even find themselves a lucrative position paid by the taxpayers, or CNN.
Flaunting it, as it were.
Thank you, Professor Turley, for bringing these egregious activities to our attention. It is disconcerting that members of the bar would engage in this type of behavior.
I don’t condone it, but I certainly do understand. A lot of people in the right are sick and tired of what has been done by the left.
Oh no, voter fraud is a myth said all the sheep. There’s no Dim wolf! Quit crying that false narrative.
Better late than never might seem appropriate in that the right is just engendering enough spine to respond in kind to the gutter politics of the left, it is shameful that our culture now encourages such low acts to be necessary just to stay competitive with the left. Shame on the republican for following suit but in a way I am glad that there was some spine involved.
Thank you JT for for exposing
This travesty.