In an age of rage, Roger Stone could be the avatar of the times. The self-proclaimed provocateur, Stone is known to wear a t-shirt reading “Trump 2020: F**k Your Feelings.” That credo was on display this week with an attack not on Ron DeSantis but on his wife, Casey. The reason? Casey often refers to her children, a common point of reference for possible first ladies. However, the highlighting of the DeSantis children sent Stone into a signature tirade, including allegedly using a coded word for c**t to refer to Casey. Stone is a diehard supporter of Donald Trump. Nothing says unhinged, recreational rage like attacking a mother for referencing her children.
Mike Crispi posted a statement objecting to the following: “Casey Desantis campaigning: ‘I have a 6, 5 and a 3 year old’ ‘I have a 6, 5 and a 3 year old’ ‘I have a 6, 5 and a 3 year old’ ‘I have a 6, 5 and a 3 year old’ ‘Did you know I have a 6, 5 and a 3 year old?’”
Stone then reportedly responded “SeeUNextTuesday,”using the common slang for the vulgar word (it is meant as a type of acronym beginning C-U). Stone has denied that he used the slur.
Of course, if those words were inserted into the posting by othres, then Stone would be expected to immediately sue for defamation.
Potential first ladies tend to talk about their families and the personal life of a candidate. Casey DeSantis has a compelling story to tell as a cancer surviver who has raised two daughters and a son. These are young children who might call the White House their home. Many people are interested in that personal or family side of candidates.
Slamming the DeSantis couple and family references is coming from both sides. The media has largely maintained unrelenting criticism of DeSantis that has at times extended to his wife, who was described on the Daily Beast dismissively as a “Walmart Melania.” On far-left sites like the DailyKos, she is constantly attacked, including criticizing her wearing of high heels in some pictures. Of course, many of these authors post anonymously so that their rage does not cause any backlash to themselves. At least Stone posts under his own name.
These types of personal attacks have become the norm in our politics, but it will only continue if good people remain silent. Many enjoy the rage. While professing great injury or cause, they like it because it gives them license to say and do things ordinarily avoided by decent people. We enable such rage by remaining silent or shrugging it off as the new normal.
I understand that campaigning spouses like Casey DeSantis must expect public scrutiny and criticism for their political claims and positions. Casey DeSantis has enraged the left over her advocacy of traditional family values and her criticism of certain transgender policies in sports and other areas. Likewise, adult children who engage in criminal acts, influence peddling or corruption are obviously legitimate subjects for public debate.
However, personal attacks for just discussing one’s family should be beyond the pale. The minute we shrug off these attacks as the new normal, it will become the new normal. We should demand more from politicians and pundits alike.
I’ll buy Fox and not let Turley appear anymore.
another demoncrat fascist corporate pig censor, big surprise, it’s also delusional and deadly serial
Roger Stone does not represent Real President Donald J. Trump, the Trump Family, or the Trump Campaign with this remark.
Roger Stone is unacceptably rude and boorish with this remark.
George , you actually talk like a normal human being . Everything else I have seen looks like it was written by fascist troglodytes from under a rock.
Voters – us – are to blame for this petty immaturity. Remember our children are watching us and need adult role models.
For example: remember when Vietnam POW, John McCain, corrected a Republican voter repeating defamatory remarks about Barack Obama? McCain corrected the voter, basically saying Obama was a good man and that he (McCain) just happened to disagree with him on political policy.
Republican voters then figuratively threw this former war hero under the bus. McCain was basically thrown out of the Republican Party.
Both parties have done it. Your children witnessed this petty immaturity – look in the mirror and start there!
Obama is an essential liar, fraud, and flagrant criminal against fundamental law.
Obama knows well that he will never be eligible for the office of U.S. president.
Obama knows well he will never be a “natural born citizen” with two parents who were citizens and a father who was a citizen at the time of the candidate’s birth, according to the legal text and reference of the era, the Law of Nations, which Ben Franklin wrote “…has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting,…,” which was the case with every president before Obama.
The singular American failure has been and continues to be the partial and corrupt Supreme Court.
George, You may be interested in this article that summarizes the numerous unsuccessful challenges to Obama’s eligibility in 2008 and 2012. He is not eligible for a third presidential term based on the 22nd Amendment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation
SISSY THE TRUTH DENIER
IT CAN’T REFUTE SO IT “FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMS” THE FACTS AND THE TRUTH
And the partial, corrupt, and communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) Supreme Court of 1973 lied, defrauded, and purported that abortion was a federal and constitutional right for nearly 50 years.
And the partial, corrupt, fellow traveler of Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln in the Supreme Court of 1869 “decided” that because secession was not prohibited by the Constitution, secession was unconstitutional.
Wait! What???
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“That dudn’t make any sense.”
– George W. Bush
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And the Supreme Court, since “Crazy Abe” Lincoln, has allowed the incremental implementation of the principles of communism in the once-free United States of America. Look around you at the central planning, control of the means of production (unconstitutional regulation), redistribution of wealth, and social engineering, under Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln’s motto: “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”
Why do you persist in subverting the actual, applicable, fundamental law, the Constitution, which requires a “natural born citizen” as president, per the Law of Nations, which Ben Franklin tells you and everyone to this day in his letter of December 9, 1775, assuring that the Law of Nations “…has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting,…,” and the irrefutable fact and past practice of every president before Obama of having two parents who were citizens, and a father who was a citizen, at the time of the candidate’s birth?
You just hate those pesky facts and no one ever stops you from falsely denying the truth without relevant evidence or otherwise basis, right?
You go, boy!
It’s amazing. I knew this country was totally gone when when the illegal usurper was installed while the Constitution was ignored.
We had a real America hater in office, proving the Founders had proper judgement.
Worse yet they diverted the truth to where the liar was born and what the birth cert or not said – admitting the failure to be natural born all along.
Then the revisionists spewed an illegal alien baby drop qualifies for potus, as it must be shown everyone is eligible. They are working on absolute foreigners beyond half foreigners, give them a few more decades.
You may be interested in reading the following Congressional Research Service article on the presidential eligibility issue that comes to a different conclusion — see
https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20160111_R42097_
bd9c656ad2788b212d1bf045b013728f8ed309ba.pdf
LMAO – I saw hundreds of lies during the entire escapade, no need for more repeating BS from lying sacks of crap.
Tell me, who was the US Potus whose Father was accused of being a Canadian citizen at the inopportune time, and the home and papers burned to the ground destroying the evidence against him ? YOU MAY BE INTERESTED ENOUGH TO TELL ME.
please educate me mr know nothing
“the irrefutable fact and past practice of every president before Obama of having two parents who were citizens, and a father who was a citizen, at the time of the candidate’s birth?”
Irrefutable?
Except George Washington as one example. John Adams. Thomas Jefferson… mom a British Subject. Or William Harris… born a British subject. Andrew Jackson, born to TWO foreign parents, both born in Ireland. I’m not sure whether Woodrow Wilson’s immigrant wife had become a naturalized citizen before his birth; George can check up on that.
It’s a little disturbing that those playing variations of the “he’s not eligible game” would eagerly throw the children of American war veterans of the last 30 years, who had children with foreign nationals while posted abroad to serve their country into their “not eligible” box. Particularly in the time since 9/11 when some soldiers at home and abroad have ‘partnerships’ with their wives or husbands rather than a formalized marriage.
I know a former Delta Force guy who would love to hear anybody want to tell him his kid borne to him and his Australian live in girlfriend and now wife between tours and before they were ever married isn’t good enough to be qualified to be George’s president..
George demands that, for HIS version of America, every single child of every single American war veteran who has children with a foreign national prior to that foreign national ever becoming an American citizen are prohibited from ever running for the presidency. Sucks to be them…
Other versions of George’s America hold that if those American troops are stationed with their families in foreign countries like Italy or Germany and their children are born on that foreign soil… those veterans’ children are ALSO prohibited from running for the presidency. Again, sucks to be them…
I gather George carefully checked to ensure Trump’s mother had became a naturalized American before he was borne?
Aside from that, I don’t place much credulity in what Wikipedia decides can and can’t be posted in their pages about people and/or subjects.
“For example: remember when Vietnam POW, John McCain, corrected a Republican voter repeating defamatory remarks about Barack Obama?”
There’s some pretty carefully chosen selective memories of McCain on display there. Accompanied by fraudulent excuses for him being rejected LONG before that moment defending Obama.
Yeah, I also remember when the very same John McCain heaped abuse and defamatory remarks on Tea Party activists – including the one veteran in a wheel chair, minus his legs. That was LONG before Trump, BTW.
Is it sort of like the Soviet Democrats: it’s okay if McCain heaps insults on disabled veterans, but not if it’s Trump responding with his idiot comments after McCain throws insults at Trump? Or McCain gets a pass because he once kissed Obama’s butt magnanimously and the Democrats loved that?
Well, do your remember McCain happily helping Clinton/Obama/Biden/the DNC inject their “Russia Dossier” into the Obama DoJ and that election campaign?
When does “defamatory” become a deliberate, flat out lie calculated to destroy a person’s entire life, not just their political career?
How about when you sit on the sidelines silent for years after that, knowing that “Dossier” was nothing but a 100% fraud, watching beside Obama and Biden as Americans tore each other apart because you had helped half of them believe your “Russia Dossier” was real and Putin’s stooge is now the president of their country?
Now THAT’S how real patriots and war heroes show their love of their country and their countrymen – help police state fascism work! Not. That’s a spiteful coward who would be hanging his head in shame if he were a real man after doing that.
How about this: do you remember McCain being remembered as one of the nastiest people in the halls of the Senate prior to becoming the Soviet Democrats’ hero anti-Trump?
How about remembering McCain’s bitterness and spitefulness towards both Bushs, president and son, both military veterans, during the 2000 Republican South Carolina primary?
You don’t remember the enmity and spiteful drive to get back at both Bushs and the GOP after he lost that battle to Bush long before Trump came along to make him a political hero again?
McCain got his ass rejected by the GOP long before he decided to take a round out of the winning primary candidate for the 2016 election, Donald Trump and long before he kissed Obama’s behind while Obama was slipping the bone up his at the same time. That wasn’t Trump’s fault and it wasn’t Bushes nor Obama’s – it was McCain’s; he owns that, he wasn’t a Democrat style ‘victim’.
His rage and spitefulness at Trump only increased when Trump accomplished what McCain failed to do by winning the presidency. He not only attacked Trump, but also attacked Republicans who chose Trump as being crazies – whether they were disabled war veterans or not.
Then he went further with saying he served in a war while rich kids of his age went and found a doctor that would say they had bone spurs. How’s that for defamatory and nasty instead of magnanimity like he showed in defending Obama?
You remember any of that Senator McCain who defended Obama from derogatory remarks? I do. And so do a lot of others.
Aside from everything else, from a political standpoint, it was stupid for Trump to feed the Democrats, Never Trumpers, and Democrat media propagandists that comment about McCain. McCain himself probably gloated when he heard it, thinking of how popular it would make him once again, while grist for the mill in his efforts to destroy Trump.
Trump could have taken a far better shot by responding that McCain was only useful to the Democrats when voting with them and when insulting disabled Tea Party veterans and attacking George Bush. Or better yet, ignored McCain as irrelevant since he got his ass kicked out of Republican acceptance long before Trump arrived. Trump has a real talent for politically stepping on his dick that he apparently enjoys indulging in. I believe it’s deliberate because he wouldn’t have gotten far in business acting the same way.
That isn’t the point. McCain wasn’t a victim as you attempt to portray him as. He wasn’t robbed of his safe space. He had proven himself to be a Grade A monkey’s rectum towards other Republican politicians and voters long before Trump arrived. The end was when he went after the Bushies and discovered he was too light in his combat boots to take on THOSE military veterans, father and son. And Republicans rejected him for that – they did so before he was kissing Obama’s butt while Obama was giving it to McCain up the same place. That’s the point
After 40 years in uniform, my position is you don’t get to ride your moments of bravery and risk taking for the remaining 60 years of your life, just because you once wore a uniform. Using as your defense “war hero, 40 years ago”.
Whether the remainder of your life is spent in politics or not. In politics, as in the military, it’s what you’re doing for the good of your country today – not what you did at one time decades ago in your past.
If you’re going to make sure your children are watching what you do and the stories you tell them – make sure you tell them ALL the story, including ALL the story about McCain and everybody else, including Obama and that election. Don’t do a half baked, cherry picked version of telling them about people. Including John McCain, and instead try to paint him as a magnanimous, polite, fair minded and acting politician.
We do more to degrade children by teaching them to ‘reason’ with shallow, sophomoric rhetoric based on cherry picked selective facts stripped of nuance and context in order to build some up while tearing others down. Far more than we do with stupid remarks.
Roger Stone is a conservative and as such has no right to protest, defend himself, or speak freely.
The “Community Relations Service” of the DoJ is designed to help mitigate the effects of conservatives protesting, defending themselves, and/or speaking freely.
Look at what the idiot leader of Ireland said in reaction to the peoples’ outrage at the murder of an Irish person at the hands of an immigrant:
“To all those cowardly “champions of Ireland” who took to the streets of Dublin last night, let me say one thing. Ask your sisters, ask your friends, ask everyone you know, what they fear most on our streets. They’re afraid of you…The Gardai will be on the streets in large numbers and will do whatever it takes to fight back waves of ignorance and criminality. (ed. will now be on the streets, not before you were murdered, but now afterwards) ”
Prepare to not do anything in response to any affront, you scary, straight, white, conservative. Sit there and take it.
That is what is coming to America, enjoy.
or put another way, after the Professor’s 10,000th reference,
Put another way, a comment that ignores the topic in a pathetic attempt at smearing the Prof.
You trolls only have two channels. Lie to smear Trump, and lie to Smear Turely.
Thank you for drawing attention to this. It needs to be called out at all levels. Shameful!
Nobody would know about it the media and talking heads would ignore Stone.
Over hype of meaningless opinions of meaningless people is the problem.
I’m much more interested in the weaponisation of of all agencies.
The latest is HHS rules that require foster parents to participate in mutilation of minors to go along with their mental illness. Gender disphoria, that fixes itself in 99% of the sufferers by age 18.
This is a test run for the Government to force parents to play this dangerous game. Stripping parental rights.
But yea, Roger Stone is really important. To the sheeple.
“…the minute we shrug off these attacks…?” My word, where have you been, Prof. Turley? This sort of reprehensible rhetoric has been aimed at Conservative women politicians and spouses of Conservative politicians for quite some time. Sadly, it IS the new normal and Casey DeSantis has been taking incoming for a long time.
Jealous much, Roger?
Roger Stone is dirt and has demonstrated this on many occasions. He is one of the unfortunate group of Trump’s coterie of dirtbags which he needs to shed. Like his previous personal lawyer and physician and several others. They serve no useful purpose except to stroke his ego and muddy up the field. Trump would do well to rope in this group and ship them to some nice island with no internet, airfield , docking facilities or other means of escape or communication. If Trump does not cut his own throat with his statements then one of this group will do it for him. They are a hindrance and need to be discarded quickly or they will cost him more damage than already done.
It’s an ELection Year, ….
Has Michael Moore checked in yet?
How about Rosie O’Donald?
Barbra Streisand? – Yeap
Matt Damon?
Well, Stone and Streisand have done their part, I’m certain we’ll hear from the whole A-List before the Election is here.
If DeSantis would have gone to Trump from the get go, offered undying loyalty in exchange for VP he would now be in the catbird seat. If for whatever reasons Trump doesn’t/couldn’t run Ron jumps in for the main show and wins. He’s a great Governor but he’s never going to get the support of the Trump loyal, in fact none of them will.
If the GOP doesn’t find a way of combating mail in ballots Biden will stumble and pick his nose for 4 more.
Margot, I always (now almost always) agree with you, but your thought is if DeSantis just allowed Trump to steamroll the nomination then good old Ron would have been liked by Trump and his moronic supporters???
How about this for a plan. Imagine if Trump, sensing his great legal and personal issues, supported DeSantis early in the campaign, told his followers to support DeSantis in the nomination process and then quietly backed out of the race. DeSantis would be cruising to the nomination, he would have crushed Biden and then he could have pardoned Trump. But Nooooo, Trump has to demand fealty to his crown as if he is the only one that deserves to be in a race for a nomination.
Trump is poison and he is THE ONLY Republican that Biden has a chance of beating. Please think about that. Nomination Trump means that Joe Biden and his team of America hating 25 year olds will have another 4 years as a lame duck to ruin our country.
We all know what Biden has done to us in 3 years, imagine another 5. This is the threat of giving Trump the nomination. Basically the end of our country. Sounds hyperbolic, but imagine another 10 million illegals, imagine another 4 years of our military being run by wokesters that hate our country, imagine another 4 years of giving Iran money, imagine another 4 years of paying student loans, high crime, forced abandonment of fossil fuels. THIS IS WHAT TRUMP WILL CAUSE.
HullBobby,
I respectfully disagree.
The hot mess Biden has created, many of them are too big for anyone to stop or reverse course. Does not matter who is elected, de-dollarization is going to continue. The pivot from the US/West uni-polar world to a multi-polar one is continuing. Like to think a Republican can stop the open southern border but we still have a few million illegals here we have to deal with. There would need to be a purge of wokesters from the ranks and I am not sure that is possible in both the military and in the deep state. Crime, leftist Democrats and their misguided policies own that one.
The upside is we are seeing some Red States make progress in fighting against some wokeism.
“The hot mess Biden has created, many of them are too big for anyone to stop or reverse course. Does not matter who is elected, de-dollarization is going to continue. The pivot from the US/West uni-polar world to a multi-polar one is continuing….”
Much of this was being put into play long before Biden. He seems to be helping it along, though, along with hundreds of nameless functionaries. Bush got a lot of it rolling even more, but distraction and disengagement of the populace was already a fair bit along even then, unfortunately. Money has been broken for a very long time. Education started getting broken in the early 80s. The Democratic and Republican “leadership” just point fingers to score political and/economic gain. Those and other statist are now just catching crawdads.
“Imagine if Trump, sensing his great legal and personal issues, supported DeSantis early in the campaign, told his followers to support DeSantis in the nomination process and then quietly backed out of the race”
You dont get it.
DeSantis is 100% owned be the GOPe, the crowd working with Dems, to protect the DC rice bowl.
It should have worked just opposite of what you wanted.
All the rest of the Republican candidates should have united behind Trump. In solidarity against the corrupt DoJ. They should have supported Trump and attacked the Weaponization of DC federal agencies. United against all the Obama/Biden have created. They all should have carried Trumps message. As a United Party.
Your suggestion is nothing but surrender, and propagating the status Quo.
If you lived Florida, or paid attention to what DeSantis has done at all, you would certainly know he’s not owned by the establishment, he’s exactly opposite them. Did you know he was the founder of the Freedom Caucus? Probably not. EVERYTHING he’s done in Florida is to protect us from all of the crap the left has been throwing at our Nation for the last 3 years. And he does what he says he’s going to do. He’s done nothing but make our lives easier here in Florida, and we feel safe. Meanwhile, all Trump can do is lie about Ron. I’m done with Trump, period. He needs to go away, and the sooner the better.
or paid attention to what DeSantis has done at all, you would certainly know he’s not owned by the establishment,
Sure. How many Governors get elected? Rather. How many governors get elected to President that dont have a Washingtion DC power base?
Trump is the only uncorruptable person that can start to change DC. ALL the rest are already infected and corrupted
Are you Paying attention to Mayor Adams????? already he has been raided by the FBI and now a lady has materialized accusing him of sexual harassment. His crime? Criticizing DC. Who but Trump can hold up against multiple attacks.
If you think some other candidate would be immune from exactly the same attacks, you blind to what is happening and WHY its happening.
I’m not a huge fan of Trump. But please name another person that can withstand what DC will throw against them.
Hullbobby, Iowan, Upstate, – I always read your comments and 98% of the time agree with all, but guys whether we/you like it or not, hate him, love him none of GOP contenders are going to beat him in the primary. I stand by my position on mail in ballots the GOP better get a handle on the problem because JC himself will lose in 2024 because of mail in ballots. Hope you guys and family enjoyed Turkey day?
Margot, I too agree with the people you name, and you, 98% of the time, but Trump is the one and only candidate that Biden may beat, and that scares the heck out of me.
“DeSantis is 100% owned be the GOPe, the crowd working with Dems, to protect the DC rice bowl.”
You’re speaking of the DeSantis who was winning elections in the House before Trump ever decided it was a safe time to finally be a candidate? Same DeSantis that was Tea Party and a founder of the Freedom Caucus? Guy whose supposedly working with the Dems by just crushing and extirpating them as a federal political presence in Florida, turning it from a purple state to a crimson red state.
I think this entire country could use some of that kind of DeSantis “working with the Dems in the Florida fashion” if that’s what it is.
That sounds so amazing close to a slightly altered version of “Trump sold out to Putin and his oligarchs 100% to enrich himself and his family” that it’s just breathtaking. I don’t get how one is supposed to be pure God’s truth and the other is ridiculous.
Another crazy idea is that Trump should spend less time whining about the 2020 election that is ancient history that can’t be relitigated, with most of the rest of his time spent attacking and whining about other Republicans. Instead, spend all of that time attacking Biden and pointing at his record as president versus Biden. Skipping over those shyte shows that were his consistent and ongoing failures at picking staff (or killing their loyalty to him after he chose them).
I despise calls from Americans for their chosen politicians to be getting one of those Hillary Clinton “It’s her turn” style coronations as leader, rather than the superior candidate winning the leadership in a contested Republican Party primary. That sort of Royal Family fealty and servility is how the Britain and Germany’s Royal Families – who Trump’s parents left behind for America – pick who gets to be the leader.
One final weird idea from decades in the army: you want to win loyalty and get people to unit behind you? Act and speak in a manner that show them that you deserve to have their loyalty and to be their leader – rather than having people TELL them they have to give you their loyalty.
The status quo is becoming dangerously a case of “Trump and those he endorses lose. Again…”
So well said. These are my sentiments, exactly. Just look at what Trump has done to his own family. Had he dropped out quietly, like you said, his children would’ve been spared, the lawsuits would have disappeared, and Trump could’ve enjoyed his “wonderful” life once again. He’s too arrogant and narcissistic to see that light, and at this point, the only reason Trump is running is for revenge. He can’t stand the fact that “they” won, in fact, I think it eats him alive. He couldn’t get things done before, how does he think that will change? Besides that fact, he’ll be an old man when his term is up, what’s the guarantee he doesn’t start slipping as Biden has? Can you imagine Trump with dementia? Good grief, I shudder at the thought, lol! Anyway, superb post, kudos to you…
He’s not going to get the “Trump loyal”? Want to make a bet on that? I voted twice for Drumpf, and I’ve had enough. He’s now just running for revenge, and his legal crap is the only thing he can talk about, besides lies about others. What changed my opinion of him is the very fact that DeSantis got in the race, then Trump showed his true colors and began a litany of lies, which he repeats daily, about Ron and his true accomplishments. The worst lies are the ones he tells about Covid, and how Ron just shut the entire state down, and on an on. We live in FL, and this statement, first hand, is a lie. My son never missed a day of work, I went shopping, even got my DL without a damn mask, and on and on. Ron was also the ONLY Governor to set up Regeneron clinics throughout the state to 100% cure Covid, oddly, it was the same thing they gave Trump while in the hospital, when he said “After I received Regeneron, I felt like a million bucks, like I’ve never felt before”…why didn’t Trump push the use of Regeneron for all to get better? Even stage 4 people got cured with this anti-body treatment. Instead, Trump pushed the Vax, the poisonous vax, that he still wants to tout, “it was the greatest thing ever done”, getting that horrible untested vax pushed on unsuspecting people. Come to find out, Pfizer donated a hefty sum to Trump, and he caved. I don’t trust Trump, and his character is in the dumpster. My favorite president is NOT trump, as he loves to state, “Me”, cringe, and Trump is certainly not the end all. If people believe that, then we have bigger worries than we can imagine. DeSantis is grounded, intelligent, calm, non-confrontational, has ethics, morals, and a PLAN. I’m all in.
” I voted twice for Drumpf, and I’ve had enough.”
You never voted for him. You want to feel like a big man instead of a dependent leftist.
Wouldn’t a Trump-DeSantis ticket be impossible anyway since they’re not from the same state?
Was that a rhetorical question? In a word Stanford Bankster-Fraud would use, Yup.
But here’s a good summary which refers to the relevant clause in the Constitution: https://www.history.com/news/can-the-president-and-vice-president-be-from-the-same-state
“Combating mail-in ballots” sounds like voter suppression. Happy to hear that Ron DeSantis didn’t kiss DJT’s butt from the get-go. Shows he has some spine.
“Combating mail-in ballots” sounds like voter suppression,
Regulating election laws is voter suppression?
Retard
I wish we had a single National law.
Zero election results can be released, until a hard number of ballots cast is first declared. BUT, Ballots cast must be within 2 hours of polls closing.
“If DeSantis would have gone to Trump from the get go, offered undying loyalty in exchange for VP he would now be in the catbird seat.”
I’m always curious as to why the Trump Cult demands one of those Democrat Hillary Clinton “It’s his turn” coronations as the party nominee. I kind of visualize that sort of royalty ass kissing divine right to a coronation to be crowned as the leader as part and parcel of the German and British Royal Family legacies that Trump’s parents left behind to come to America instead. Winning elections rather than being crowned is so plebeian.
With Trump being apparently so supremely better than DeSantis (or whatever other candidate you want to name), shouldn’t Trump be able to easily defeat other nominees by simply demonstrating his superiority in the debates? Sharpen him up for his upcoming debates against Biden or Newsom?
Oh wait! It’s underwater 3D chess!
By refusing to debate his primary candidates and pulling a Biden and campaigning from the basement as Biden did, Trump has cleverly snared Biden in a trap where Biden can say “You won’t debate your Republican opponents, and therefore I’m not going to debate you as your opponent”. Clever… CLEVER!!!!
And at what specific time was Desantis/Youngkin/Sears supposed to offer Trump and the Trump Cult their ass kissing servility and loyalty to the man who has none in politics?
Trump went after DeSantis, Youngkin, Winsom Sears the election night that they steamrolled to victory, crushing the Democrats. While at the same time that night, almost all who Trump endorsed went down to defeat by the Democrats… The Trump Red Wave Of Endorsement Victories that never was….
Was winning while Trump’s nominees lost in that election their acts of treachery that earned them the Demented Donnie, The Cryin’ Queen (just speaking Official Trumpian here so the Trump Cult can understand) attack that night before the victory celebrations had began?
Couldn’t wait for a couple of days later; had to make sure to take as much shine as possible off their wins so people wouldn’t notice Trump’s endorsed candidates lost?
Whatever the excuses/rational, I prefer American style contested primaries – not Hillary Clinton/Royal Family ass kissing “It’s his turn” coronations as some inherited right or privilege.
One good thing however. If Trump’s magnificent campaigning of whining more about 2020 and spending more time attacking other Republicans than he does attacking Biden fails to win over those critical independents and they vote Democrat again and he loses again… we already have the ready made excuse that the only possible reason he lost is because the election stole those independents votes again.
Just as they stole them in the mid-term election where Trump’s endorsed candidates lost because their votes were stolen – but somehow or other they were thwarted in stealing their votes when Youngkin, DeSantis, Sears, etc steamrolled the Democrat Vote Stealers.
Weird how stealing votes only works against some Republicans and completely fails with others.
A Spouse behind a Spouse, Imagine that. Supportive, Reinforcing, Strengthening, Bridging, Under Pining. Moral Solidarity, United, …
Making America G̸r̸e̸a̸t̸ Strong Again – Know wonder the Left doesn’t like it. They’re Weak and they want You to be too.
Roger Stone. Poster boy for the Swamp Rats.
Children of candidates under the age of 18 are completely off limits. Period. No exceptions.
Till now, never heard of the guy.
And I think I will forget him in 10 seconds and be all the better for it.
Any of ya’ll remember when the Left went after Trump’s youngest Son?
It was assisted by their cohorts in the Media as you might recall.
Was it as odious then as this vile attack by Stone (assuming his account was not hacked)?
Going after the spouse and children of anyone is dead wrong and should be vilified with equal enthusiasm no matter from which part of this growing cess pool it comes from.
‘We enable such rage by remaining silent or shrugging it off as the new normal.’
*Thank you* for having the courage to verbalize this. There is only a ‘new normal’ if we sit idly by, and I put that phrase in the same league as, ‘The Constitution needs to be updated for the 21st century.’. It is flabbergasting to me how many of us have become so reticent and disconnected. We create reality. These things do not ‘just happen’.
Humanity needs another great awakening, and I’d prefer a Renaissance (and it will not come from the people running our governments, institutions, or Silicon Valley) to a third world war. Enlightenment didn’t come from people sitting on their thumbs going, ‘Meh.’, or from the degeneration of common sense or decency; quite the opposite; that is how we were led to *actual* dictatorships and *actual* genocide.
James,
I agree, a Renaissance is much preferable to WWIII.
However, I also feel in order to reach a Renaissance there will need to be some kind of cathartic pain, suffering, trauma to make one take stock of what is truly important in life. I recently read an article of a bunch of Gen-Z, crying (one literally) about how terrible their lives are, having to work a 9-5 job. They all appeared to be living in very nice places, nice cloths, nice furniture. They had their smartphones and the one guy had in high end ear buds. They think their lives are oh-so bad. These are the kind of people who need to lose everything to appreciate life.
https://youtu.be/jbfxhdNpLFs?si=CAVVl91LrXhuv4gQ
Not just the government creating the news, though. Too much corporatism for that.
“We create reality.”
In part. Then there is the PR machine that creates it, too.
Lots of people simply go with the flow or allow themselves to be pulled around by the nose (the popularity of nose rings as of late is rather symbolic actually).
I will vote for Trump against ANY Democrat, especially Biden, but I will vote for ANY Republican against Trump in the primary. Trump isn’t even campaigning, he is running around holding so-called rallies in front of foolish morons who think he is funny and all he talks about is the last election, his court cases and nasty name calling of his worthy opponents. Plus the occasional jab at Biden.
Imagine if Trump, or any Republican, would or could actually discuss Reagan, Churchill, literary contexts of historical importance or any other less than juvenile screeching. Wow, wouldn’t that be nice.
@hullbobby
Same here. The fact also remains I will not be voting for ANY democrat, for the third election in a row.
James, for me it is Not voting for a Democrat for the 11th election in a row. I mistakenly voted for Carter in 76, realized my mistake and have voted Republican since. I also voted for McGovern in 72, but cut me some slack I was very young and even more foolish.
Hullbobby, you wrote what I (and zillions of others) think. Thanks
Thanks Wise, it really is a shame that we are stuck with Trump possibly, probably losing to Joe Biden. If Trump could just stop acting like a juvenile for 5 minutes he may stand a chance, but he can’t.
Trump calls Haley “Bird Brain”. This is the level of discourse we are stuck with due to Trump and his loyal followers. Why can’t they see that he is a buffoon, a carnival barker and a poser. I AGREE HIS POLICIES WERE GOOD AND THAT IS WHY I WILL VOTE FOR HIM OVER ANY DEMOCRAT…BUT HE COULD BE SO MUCH MORE. It is frustrating.
You are so wrapped up in winning the Presidency, you are blind to fact, that anyone but Trump, will go along to get along. Basically just tread water. Not make the needed changes. Because the changes will be brutal and unpopular. Anyone but Trump will spend 70% of their time running for a second term. With weak speeches about changing the DC swamp (that they are now in charge of)
You’ll get your anyone but Trump, at the price of loosing power for a very long time, as DC solidifies its one party power, Where Republican Party plays the role of the Washington Generals to the Harlem Globtrotters.
“You are so wrapped up in winning the Presidency, you are blind to fact, that anyone but Trump, will go along to get along.”
DeSantis is going along to get along with Democrats so well in Florida that he exterminated them as a federal party in Florida. Sign the rest of the country up for some of that DeSantis style “going along to get along with the Democrats.
What we actually have here is a sophomoric, blatant lie that rises to the dementia level of those told by The Big Guy currently in the White House who continues telling us he doesn’t know any of the family’s customers from Communist China and they’ve never received a dollar from them.
Don’t attempt to lie better than the Soviet Democrats who supported Obama, Clinton, and Biden did and still do. Blind political loyalty like this reminds me of the 1960’s and screaming teenage girls sobbing and throwing their panties at The Beatles when they stepped out of limousines.
Trump over any democrat, obviously.
But how can you consider warmongers like hailey or morons like christie? DeSantis tanked his campaign, go back and look at the replay, as soon as he appeared with Lindsey Graham (in the Spring??).
Reagan? If there was a Tip O’Neill to work with, maybe, and if he hadn’t closed the mental institutions and created a massive homeless epidemic…
Churchill? Literary context? I’m not sure what you want with those.
Trump is a blunt object in an age where a blunt object is required. We have been nuanced to the point we are currently, massaged by both the left and right to accept things like Patriot Act and BS wars, like Yemen and Ukraine and now a proxy in the Middle East – all stupid, juvenile, and avoidable. Yeah, he is imperfect, but unless you have Patton or JFK (the OG) on the ballot, it has to be Trump.
Neil, of all the statements made, I think yours is the most level-headed.
There is no perfect person, and Trump has many warts hidden by others. He never violated the law while holding office, was well-mannered, and was seen as a leader not obligated to the bureaucracy that cares more for itself than the nation. He was an excellent President for the times and broke down barriers.
The news media is fogging the issues and making people believe they are bad if, when they say something positive about Trump, they don’t include a negative.
We need to look strictly at policy and the ability of the man in charge to effectuate them. Peace vs war is a major one, yet for many Trump’s use of the word pus.y is a bigger crime than Halley’s reliance on war. (I like Hailey, but not her war-like stance.) When we compare Trump head-to-head on policy, he is a winner.
Yet, people concentrate not on policy but on Trump’s warts. To those who voted for Obama, you saw a clean-cut man, articulate, and propped up by the media along with his melanin content. Did you realize he was anti-American underneath this satisfying appearance? Probably not. You saw a fraction of who Obama was hidden under a lot of empty praise in a person with little experience and less where the policy was involved. With Trump, one gets complete transparency, sometimes knowing at the moment what he is thinking, by a leader with gut feelings that are mostly on target.
I think all bashing of Trump should stop by those who don’t want another Democrat. Such trashing makes him appear weaker than he is in front of the enemy, harming not just him but other Republicans who wish change in Washington so that we better adhere to American values.
Pompous fool, you never change.
YNOT, you show yourself as an ignorant fool trying to climb the ladder by pulling others down.
If you think what I say is foolish, include content with your insults. You can’t because your intellect is below that of a slug.
“DeSantis tanked his campaign, go back and look at the replay, as soon as he appeared with Lindsey Graham (in the Spring??).”
Well, it sure is a good thing Trump isn’t tanking his campaign by going on CNN and claiming that New York’s Governor Cuomo, who killed tens of thousands by putting Covid in their nursing homes did a better job than DeSantis did in Florida with what he did. Or others among his recent suck-ups to Democrat propaganda agencies (that’s what Trump would call those appearances when done by Chris Christie instead of him, after all).
Trump is running a far superior campaign to DeSantis: spending more time whining about the 2020 election (that cannot be re-litigated) than he does criticizing Biden. Attacking fellow Republicans more than he attacks Biden.
Yeah, to borrow a phrase, all stupid and juvenile, while believing that’s exactly the campaign strategy that will change those critical independents into voting for Trump the next time instead of the Democrat nominee.
I doubt a perfect election campaign has ever been run, and that includes Trump, DeSantis, and the rest of the current nominees.
If there’s a rational explanation of how this is going to not only result in Trump winning the nomination, but also those independent votes that are so critical to winning the presidency, I would sure like to hear a “Nobody but Trump can win” explain how that works.
Because, win or lose in 2024, unless something dramatic happens before then, Trump is going to win the nomination. And the Soviet Democrats are counting on him doing it to run their candidate against.
What HullBobby, James, WiseOldLawyer and Neil said.
A vision of the future, an acknowledgement of our myriad national problems, and some ideas to fix them would go a long way. He did float eliminating the Dept of Education. That’s something to consider for sure.
Who is Roger Stone. Like a lot of has beens in such places like Hollywood now and then they expound ridiculous stories or especially half naked pictures to try and regain their 10 seconds and are helped by the moronic media.
Thank you for drawing attention to this. It needs to be called out at all levels. Shameful!