One of the long-standing unanswered questions from the January 6th riot has been why the Capitol was so poorly prepared and defended on that day. A newly released transcript has caused a firestorm in Washington over allegations that the J6 Committee downplayed or even suppressed evidence that former President Donald Trump personally suggested the deployment of 10,000 national guard troops to prevent violence.
The transcript also includes contradictions of major allegations that ran wild in the media. That includes the claim that Trump tried to physically grab the steering wheel of the presidential limo, “The Beast,” when Secret Service refused to take him to the Capitol. Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson was the source of the claim, which appeared in most of the media and was highlighted in her testimony. However, it appears that the J6 Committee had testimony of secret service agents directly contradicting that account, including the driver.
However, it is the National Guard question that is more weighty for historical purposes.
Trump has long claimed that he proposed the deployment of the National Guard troops (as was done previously at the White House during violent protests). The January 6th Committee said that was a lie.
The release of the transcript by Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R., Ga.) triggered attacks on the J6 Committee. The Federalist’s Mollie Hemingway wrote a column titled “Former Rep. Liz Cheney’s January 6 Committee suppressed evidence.”
That triggered an angry response from former co-chair Liz Cheney which led to an even angrier reply from commentator Mark Levin.
The anger is nothing new in a J6 investigation that seemed to produce more heat than light. Cheney’s spokesperson called the Federalist report “flatly false” and added “no transcripts were destroyed” while acknowledging that some material was not published “to allow the Secret Service to protect sensitive security information for interviews of its agents before preserving that testimony in the archives.”
The issue of the suppression or destruction of the evidence has drawn a lot of attention, but the more troubling question is the fact that such an offer was made and declined.
The Committee found “no evidence” that the Trump administration called for 10,000 National Guard members to Washington, D.C., to protect the Capitol.
That now stands contradicted and the question is whether Cheney or other members knew the public was being misled on the question. For example, the Washington Post “debunked” Trump’s comments with an award of “Four Pinocchios.”
The Post’s Glenn Kessler admitted that Trump raised the issue but noted that he might have been suggesting the troops “not because he wanted to protect the Capitol,” but to suggest that he and his supporters were being threatened. He added that “Trump brought up the issue on at least three occasions but in such vague and obtuse ways that no senior official regarded his words as an order.”
However, the issue is not whether Trump issued “an order” but made an offer that was declined. For those of us who were covering the event on that day, the question has always been prominent in our minds. I was critical of Trump’s speech while he was still giving it. However, before the Capitol was breached, I also noted that I had never seen the Capitol so thinly protected in a major protest.
We had just seen violent protests outside of the White House with a large number of police officers injured and extensive property damage, including arson. President Trump and his family had to be moved to a secure location out of concern of an imminent breach of the White House. National Guard were deployed and fencing installed.
Even without an offer, it remains unclear why the violence around the White House did not prompt Congress to install the same barriers and deploy the same troops. (They ultimately took both steps but only after the rioters gained entry into the Capitol).
Moreover, if an offer was clearly made, it undermines the allegations that Trump was actively seeking an insurrection. While he has never been charged with an insurrection or even incitement, that allegation was used more recently to support his disqualification from the ballots in Colorado, Maine, and Illinois.
The transcript contains the testimony of former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Anthony Ornato’s interview on January 2022 with Cheney present. Ornato states that he clearly recalled the offer of 10,000 troops being made by Trump in a conversation with D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser:
“I was there, and he was on the phone with her and wanted to make sure she had everything that she needed. Because I think it was the concern of anti and pro groups clashing is what I recall…I remember the number 10,000 coming up of, you know, the President wants to make sure that you have enough. You know, he is willing to ask for 10,000. I remember that number.”
Ornato said that Browser said that they would not need the troops. (She ultimately asked for only 300 troops). There are also reports that then Speaker Nancy Pelosi was worried about the “optics” of military reinforcements at the Capitol.
Ornato also said that he recalled that, after Bowser refused additional National Guard members, the White House requested the Defense Department have a “quick reaction force” ready on that day. He gave details on meetings with the Defense Department and follow up from Chief of Staff Mark Meadows.
Hemingway noted in her report that Ornato’s testimony was supported by former Trump administration aide Kash Patel. Cheney has attacked Patel as unreliable.
Ornato also testified that Meadows and others were frustrated by the delay in getting those troops to the Hill. The delay was blamed on the logistics, not some conspiracy to enable or facilitate an insurrection.
The Federalist article makes additional allegations, including that Cheney was behind an op-ed by her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, opposing any use of national guard troops on January 6th.
However, even proving such duplicity would hardly be news for Washington. Likewise, it does not negate criticism over Trump’s comments on that day or his delay in publicly calling for supporters to withdraw.
Yet, again, what is more important historically is whether the J6 Committee had direct evidence that Trump made the offer of thousands of troops and that the White House pushed for rapid deployment troops on that day.
I have previously criticized the one-sided J6 Report and the biased framing of the hearings held by the members. The Committee could have been so much more than the echo chamber that it became. However, this latest transcript adds questions over the perplexing failure of Congress to take obvious steps to prevent a riot.
Had Congress simply installed the same fencing previously used at the White House and deployed such troops, the J6 riot would likely have never occurred. Given the cost and trauma to our nation, we should want to know the full story of what occurred on January 6th.
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After 9/11, the United States essentially adopted the (unconstitutional) surveillance practices of East German communists during the Cold War.
The national ACLU acquired government documents that over 1 million persons worldwide were subjected to this form of unAmerican totalitarian surveillance (blacklisting for life) – almost all illegal searches under the Fourth Amendment.
Out of these 1 million illegally blacklisted, in over 20 years this illegal program netted less than 1% in terrorism-convictions. Many if not most had no criminal record.
Bottom-Line: on January 6, 2021 (following Charlottesville’s deadly white supremacy rally), America’s security agencies had ample resources to surveil, disrupt and prevent the invasion of the U.S. Capitol. These agencies simply focused on innocent people with no evidence of wrongdoing instead of focusing on the dangerous individuals from the earlier Charlotttesville rally.
Appropriate Solution: issue official apologies (and compensation where practical) to those 1 million wrongly blacklisted worldwide, then the agency leaders should follow their own Oath of Office and require “probable cause evidence of a past crime” before blacklisting or searching anyone – as the Fourth Amendment legally requires. The agency leaders would have massive resources to actually investigate legitimate targets!
The Truth is out, now –
BREAKING: THe D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals has *denied* Peter Navarro’s bid to remain out of jail while he appeals his conviction for defying the Jan. 6 select committee.
🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸
@mrddmia
Truly outrageous.
Peter Navarro was the White House trade director to the President of the United States.
We’ve had constitutional executive privilege for 250 years, going back to George Washington.
So Presidents can get candid advice from their aides without fear they will get hauled before Congress—and especially not get thrown in prison.
The destruction of constitutional executive privilege—by Biden, his Justice Department, House Democrats, and these hyper-partisan 4 DC Democrat judges—to get Trump is short-sighted and highly destructive to the presidency.
Especially as they ignore Biden’s blatant foreign corruption and Hunter’s own blatant contempt of Congress.
Truly shameful.
Hope Biden (and Obama) White House officials understand they are now fair targets under a Trump 47 Justice Department.
Below are pictures of the 4 hyper-partisan DC Obama judges who are destroying the presidency–and the legitimacy of the federal judiciary.
Left to Right:
1. Amit Priyavadan Mehta, DC District Judge
2. Robert Leon Wilkins, DC Circuit Judge
3. Cornelia (Nina) Pillard, DC Circuit Judge
4. Patricia Ann Millett, DC Circuit Judge
Liz Cheney, and the rest of her corrupt J6 Committee, MUST be PROSECUTED for their crimes AND do prison time.
Hunter Biden MUST be prosecuted for his crimes AND do prison time.
Prosecutions MUST happen to Democrats for their crimes. Prison time MUST be served.
It is the ONLY way forward.
🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸
@mrddmia
“Dear Chief Justice John Roberts:
When the federal judiciary loses its legitimacy, it will lose its funding.
Get your courts under control.”
_____________________
“We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges. What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them.”
You Liar. Reign in your activist Obama judges, Mr. Roberts.
AG Garland, reign in your corrupt, activist Soros prosecutors…
and get your DOJ under control, you pathetic partisan hack.
“The CDC lied every day for four years.
The FDA lied every day for four years.
The NIH lied every day for four years.
The WHO lied every day for four years.
Harvard & Yale lied every day for four years.
The mainstream media lied every day for four years.
They are STILL lying.”
~Toby Rogers, Ph.D., M.P.P. @uTobian
Our sick pinko radical freedom haters (joe’s devoted fools) are entirely foul. Has any of them said anything good about Trump ever? Of course not. Trump has done some fine things and they cannot be honest enough to acknowledge even 1 thing. They r sickies.
I want to add another rant. Time to cut three losing propositions loose
UKRAINE
ISRAEL
TAIWAN
I know a lot of the right wingers here will be offended I included the rogue province of China in that list but you guys need to go back and refresh your history lessons about one of our greatest presidents Richard Nixon who threw them under the bus in the 70s. The military industrial complex is trying to rescuscitate that alliance, that was formally abrogated by Congress by the way, as an excuse for more endless SPENDING OF TAX DOLLARS.
Israel is more complicated, but it shares some similarities to both Ukraine and Taiwan.
I’m disgusted by them murdering civilians. It’s amazing they keep saying the Gazans are at fault for not running away from their bombs. Where are they supposed to run away to? Swim to Cyprus?
All my life I have heard nonstop lamentation about the German holocaust of Jewry in the nazi era. Well, that was awful. But does it give their grandchildren a license to murder innocent children and women in Gaza? Seriously, it’s time to throw this losing proposition overboard.
We need to hold the mercenaries of our American plutocracy (billionaires) accountable. And the billionaires too. They’re behind it.
Saloth Sar
Shut up, nazi liar.
Taiwan is not a “rogue province”, Congress NEVER abrogated the treaty. Quite the contrary, it rescued as much as it could of the treaty by entrenching it in a statute that the president can’t just abrogate whenever he feels like it. Oh, and it was Carter, not Nixon, who threw Taiwan under the bus. That alone is enough to brand you a liar and a communist sympathizer.
What brands you a nazi is your vile blood libel against Israel. Israel has never in its entire existence murdered any innocent person. Collateral damage in war is not murder; it is the acceptable price for getting at the enemy. Nobody has ever waged a war without collateral damage, and the laws of war allow it, so long as the risk posed to civilians by any attack is proportionate to the military benefit expected from it. You can’t bomb an apartment building just because there’s a Hamas cafeteria in it, but you can if it’s a Hamas command center or barracks, and certainly if it’s a missile launching site, or it houses Hamas officers of sufficient importance. And Israel is a lot more careful about those rules than the USA has ever been. So your accusation brands you as a willing liar, and the only motive you could have is your support for Hamas, which is LITERALLY an ally and successor of the NSDAP. Thus you are a nazi.
The USA killed 10s of thousands of innocent, harmless children with atomic bombs. God, have mercy on us all, except nazis.
Let’s go back to OKC. Was Tim McVeigh on the government radar? Was he a rogue asset developed under “operation PATCON?”
Some people think so. I don’t know. Almost certainly, some people around him were. And some of them spoke their plans to Rebecca Howe, an ATF informant, who actrually warned the ATF of the terror plans aiming at OKC BEFORE the incident.
see 3 books:
Others Unknown
In Bad Company
Oklahoma City What the Investigation MIssed and why it still matters.
OPERATION PATCON gave us Ruby Ridge and Waco, too
For you people who need “mainstream sources” here is a story about this horrible FBI operation https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/04/18/patriot-games/
And who was one of the top dogs in Janet Reno’s DOJ who was deeply immersed in Operation Patcon prosecutions?
,MERRICK GARLAND
We are prolly gonna see all kinds of provocations of rural white folks in 2024. Yes J6 was full of informants agents and provocateurs. But rural white folks are the frequent designated enemies of this regime, supposedly, hated for being poor and still daring to vote for Republicans.
Today the powers that be were busy with their Tiktok bill, blaming the See See Pee for not being able to control 1`00% of social media, but that’s a story for a different rant.
Remember this. The billionaires are the enemy of Americans. I mean American billionaires, too. about 800 people who are guilty until proven innocent. I’ll give Musk a pass, and few others. The domestic plutocracy is the enemy of law and order and justice and equality and liberty itself.
Saloth Sar
Slightly off point but pertinent to this article is the fact that the Capitol Police Department has over 2200 sworn officers to protect about 2 square miles of land. On January 6th they really needed to secure one building. They failed. In contrast the city of Chicago has 10-11,000 officer to protect 280 square miles of territory. This gives you some contrast. As for the Washington DC National Guard, they might be able to throw a good parade but that is about it. The DC National Guard has about 2,000 service members. It is run by a 2 Star General and has (I believe) three 1 Star generals as Deputy Commanders. A regular Army mechanized infantry brigade has somewhere around 2,800 service members and is run by a full colonel. These infantry brigades have gone to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. They have actually experienced attacks by a determine and deadly foe. The government in DC, in or out of uniform, makes the Keystone Cops look like pros!
Once again, Democrat activists in positions of authority abused their power to undermine and lie about Donald Trump.
While Trump was branded an “insurrectionist” for telling followers to peacefully let their voices be heard, those who denied his request for National Guard troops, and lied about it, will face no consequences.
Democrats like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, who urged on rioters who threw bombs at federal buildings, burned a police station, seized entire city blocks, and who even bailed some rioters out of jail, will face no consequences.
We have a two tiered justice system, and a de facto single party state.
Speak truth to power. Vote for secure borders, funding for the police, biological males out of women’s sports and locker rooms, and global stability, by voting for Republicans and Libertarians. Heck, vote for a trained ferret rather than a Democrat. You’d have a better outcome.
Under Joe Biden nationally, and Democrats in control of states and cities, 10 million illegal aliens crossed the border, fentanyl crossed the border to kill 100,000 Americans, illegal aliens accused of committing violent crimes were not turned over to ICE, police departments were defunded, murders increased, shoplifting turned to rank looting and drove critical businesses under, and biological men swept women’s records, awards, scholarships, and athletic competition opportunities.
Joe Biden has told us that the world would be less safe under Trump, but let’s look at the facts of history. There were no new wars under Trump. As soon as Joe Biden took office, we were routed out of Afghanistan, failing to leave the agreed upon military presence. We abandoned Americans in Afghanistan, which had to be rescued by Senators and private citizens. Russia invaded Ukraine. Hamas raped and murdered Jews on Oct 7. Biden abandoned Americans in Israel, who had to be rescued by senators and private citizens. Some of our people number among the hostages still being raped and tortured by Hamas. Trump would have sent in the US Marines for them. Biden abandoned Americans in Haiti, who had to be rescued by senators and private citizens.
When Democrats are in power, more people die. More people are poor. The entire world is less safe as bad actors become emboldened.
It’s all about power. The Jan 6 committee was formed for the purpose of keeping Trump from being on the ballot in 2024. The Democrats will do anything immoral and illegal if it means remaining in power. They will bury the evidence if it’s required. From the Hunter laptop to the George Floyd autopsy all is fair in love and politics. If necessary they will say one thing one day and something diametrically opposed on another. Let me humbly provide a prime example. “All Americans, not only in the States most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are RIGHTLY disturbed by the large numbers of ILLEGAL ALIENS entering our country.”
President Bill Clinton, State of the Union Address, Jan 1995. Bill might not have known what the meaning of is is but he had no problem with what the meaning of illegal alien is.
Anonymous: your post assumes that Congress should just forget about the fact that a losing presidential candidate LIED to his supporters and inflamed them into descending on Washington for the purpose of trying to prevent Joe Biden’s victory from being certified. It was not “immoral” to call witnesses to testify about the events leading up to and including January 6th, which was entirely the fault of Donald Trump and his ego. Hunter Biden and George Floyd have nothing whatsoever to do with J6.
Democrats are also disturbed by large numbers of people seeking asylum–which is LEGAL under current law. A president cannot simply close down the border or create concentration camps under current law. So Republicans and Democrats got together to do something about it–the best border security bill in history, supported by Border Patrol agents and the federal Chamber of Congress–it was bipartisan–and, was headed to be passed into law UNTIL Trump stopped it, so he would have something to attack Biden for.
Why do u keep running away from clinton’s aiding and abetting the savages who slaughtered a million Rwandans?
Other presidential candidates have told the same lies after which their supporters descended upon Washington in protest (see Hillary Clinton’s claims about Russia collusion and the violence at Trump’s inauguration). It’s not new…that is Turley’s point. In prior instances, fences were erected and security pre-placed. Not in this instance. Why is that? And we don’t need new laws to protect the border. Our system has never been perfect, but the current crisis is a result of the enforcement policy of the Biden administration. The data makes that plainly clear, even to the most partisan of observers. We didn’t have anywhere near these numbers prior to Biden, whether the administration be Republican or Democrat. The Senate bill was toothless and essentially codified an open border. If you were serious about your words, you’d support HR2…the house resolution passed by the house that Schumer buried in the Senate. We’ve had nearly 2M known getaways enter our country under Biden. These people did not want to be caught because they would fail even the lax enforcement measures currently in place. Meaning, they are likely criminals. 1 million+ criminals let in by Biden for God knows why. The laws are the same as they were for Bush, Obama, and Trump. Biden is the problem. He needs to go.
“Losing” candidate? In what reality do you choose to live? It’s beyond obvious to the critically thinking world that the 2020 election was stolen. Calling out said stolen election is not illegal nor is it inflammatory! Your sainted HRC kept screaming about a stolen election and you didn’t go after her? Why not? You can’t have it both ways because MSLSD tells you to regurgitate their endless lies. Your endless TDS speaks more to you and your Leftist tribe’s projections than anything based in reality! Either turn off your TV or see a therapist for your delusions!
“Congress should just forget about the fact that a losing presidential candidate LIED to his supporters and inflamed them into descending on Washington for the purpose of trying to prevent Joe Biden’s victory from being certified.” No, Gigi, that is a lie. It is a Big Lie the US government deep state liars keep on telling.
This is what happened —>
🚨THE FBI INSTIGATED J6 TO STOP THE SENATE FROM EXAMINING ELECTION INTEGRITY🚨
“There is no evidence that there was ever any plan, especially from Donald Trump, to have Mike Pence not count legal electoral votes and insert “fake ones”. The idea was to have Mike Pence not count the votes until the Senate could retire to its chamber to evaluate claims of vote fraud (which is a legal procedural part of the electoral college process).
They attempted to do this and the Capitol was breached. The Capitol breach did VASTLY MORE TO HARM the Trump election integrity cause than help it, as when it was cleared all actions to check on integrity were dropped in favor of getting the f outta dodge.” @TruthNinja316
Mar 14, 2024
@Anonymous
Yup. That’s all there is to it. There are many questions, but for me the biggest one of all is what is it that made an outsider such a threat that it required nuclear level interference? Just hating Trump is not a good enough answer.
The Jack Smith trial against DJT may end, if it ever starts, with a fizzle…….despite having a 95% democrat Jury from the DC jury pool……fizzle at least in part by a set of fact witnesses who will corroborate DJT’s offer of NG troops by both Bowser and Pelosi (whose job as Speaker was to protect the Capitol).
Heads may roll at the end of the day.
Can we say, ‘Obese probablility’?
Anonymous: you are so steeped in partisan rhetoric that you believe everything boils down to someone’s political party. Based on my years of experience, that is simply not true. The issue for Trump’s criminal prosecution over J6 is the BIG LIE that was the foundational reason for people to descend on the Capitol to try to prevent Biden from becoming president. But for the Big Lie, J6 would not have happened–and THAT will be the story for the history books–why do so many people believe a lie that has been disproven over and over again, even by an investigation paid for by Trump? And, when there are two different versions of an incident, it is up to the trier of fact to decide whom to believe. That Secret Service members say something different from Cassidy Hutchison does not make her a liar. And, for what I hope is the last time, Nancy Pelosi did not have any duty to “protect the Capitol”, From “The Hill”, a publication for which Turley sometimes writes, dateline 7/28/2021:
“A recent fact check by The Associated Press found that an assertion being made by members of the House Republican Conference that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was responsible for the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol due to security reasons is not true.
“As Speaker of the House, Pelosi does not direct the National Guard,” the AP reported in its fact check. “Further, as the Capitol came under attack, she and the Senate Majority leader called for military assistance, including the National Guard.” WHY do you believe the lie that Pelosi could “direct” the National Guard?
The problem with your theory is that a) it’s not illegal to lie and b) you have to prove that Trump had actually accepted that he had lost and was knowingly lying in some attempt to illegally prevent the transition of power. Yes, he encouraged congressmen and the VP to use constitutionally available procedures to delay or override the certification of the vote. That’s not illegal. The Democrats have done the same thing for as many elections as i can remember. Otherwise, they need to prove J6 was an attempted coup…and insurrection…yet despite all the vitriol, now one has even attempted to charge him with that. This is lawfare on the part of Democrats to prevent a Trump 2nd term…it’s plain to see an only making Trump stronger (look at the polls). Dems should give up on these shenanigans and get on with competing for the people’s vote. The problem is, they can’t. Not with Biden as their candidate.
Mr. Turley writes, “Given the cost and trauma to our nation, we should want to know the full story of what occurred on January 6th.”
Here is another silly false narrative perpetuated by the media, and Turley just keeps merrily helping it along once again. The “cost and trauma” to the nation are average Americans’ increased distrust of the federal government and its elected representatives.
So much evidence proves this was in fact no violent riot by unhinged right wingers; it was, rather, a political red herring that, along with active participation of the capitol police (whom video from multiple different security cameras clearly shows opening doors for and speaking calmly with, protestors), the FBI, Congress, and the media, helped to fabricate and advance a narrative that achieved its desired result: Trump and his MAGA supporters are unhinged lunatics, and he can never again be entrusted to occupy the office of POTUS. Which normal, average Americans know is nothing more than a load of malarkey, to use Cadaver Joe’s favorite word.
Yes, the pretense, unsaid, and unknown to whom it is directed, and the agreement that it is a huge trauma, is a weaseling way around saying the demoncrats and the demoncrat security state lied about it all, caused it to begin with on purpose, and made a mountain out of a molehill, and have attacked America with it.
We live in this nation where being a slimy weaseling lying moron is the accepted and “morally correct” way of behaving. Above that are the walls that must never be breached and you simply MUST LIE ABOUT THOSE ISSUES or the demoncratic church of satan excommunicates you from their sick society.
Where, oh where has our Ray Epps gone,
Oh, where oh where can he be?
With his tale disproved and
His role obscured,
Oh, where oh where can he be?
On probation, and likely preparing for J6x2.
Just wondering how many shell companies Ray has?
i think Turley is calling out exactly the trauma that you are…the fact that the narrative around J6 has traumatized the nation…not that J6 was actually traumatizing. It was a riot..nothing more.
Professor Turley Writes:
The Committee could have been so much more than the echo chamber that it became.
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Here Turley alludes to the often-cited grievance by Republicans that Nancy Pelosi refused to seat two of Speaker McCarthy’s picks for the January 6th Committee.
Yesterday, The Hill covered this new report by Barry Loudermilk and reviewed the reasons Pelosi rejected McCarthy’s two picks.
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Pelosi’s reasons for rejecting the two Republicans were specific.
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) was present during a White House meeting in December 2020, when Trump and other top Republicans discussed their Jan. 6 strategy, making him a material witness to the event under investigation, according to Democrats.
Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.), meanwhile, had vowed to use his seat on the committee to investigate the Biden administration’s response to the Jan. 6 attack — even though Biden would not be sworn in as president for another two weeks.
Loudermilk was tapped to lead the review of the panel’s work after coming into its crosshairs himself.
The panel released footage of Loudermilk giving a constituent a tour of the Capitol the day ahead of the riot, passing through some of the underground tunnels along the way. Among the party of the tour group was a man who later posted footage of himself present at the Capitol on Jan 6, warning numerous Democratic leaders, “We’re coming to take you out, and pull you out by your hairs.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4525079-gop-report-seeks-to-discredit-jan-6-committee-exonerate-trump/
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Jim Jordan was a ‘material witness’ to a discussion regarding Trump’s strategy for January 6th. And Pelosi was expected to let Jordan sit on the January 6th Committee..??
Jim Banks made it known that he would use his seat on the committee to essentially blow-up the hearings!
And Loudermilk is now chairman of that same House committee. In this capacity, he intends to completely discredit the J 6 Committee findings. However Loudermilk was certainly a person of interest for that suspicious ‘tour’ he led on January 5th.
Professor Turley mentions none of this in his column. Yet he self-righteously implies that the January 6th Committee was merely partisan showcase to frame Donald Trump.
Anon. Jim Jordan was rejected because he is possibly the most effective Congressional cross -examiner of witnesses.
The suggestion that Banks would “blow up the hearings” is childish rhetoric, and another pathetic attempt to conflate speech with violence.
Loudemilk was a “person of interest” for “giving a suspicious tour”. The spirit of the Police State is strong in you.
“Here Turley alludes to . . .”
That “alludes to” is a figment of your imagination, concocted to erect a straw man and to deflect from his actual argument — you know, everything *he* actually wrote preceding his “echo chamber” comment.
When you learn to be more intellectually honest, perhaps the better people here will take you more seriously.
Wow. You swallowed it whole didn’t you?
Another question Turley omits: why did Trump marvel, watch, and not act for several hours on January 6th?
I trust what my eyes saw that day, on multiple channels, each with their own bias.
Trump is right again! #TrumpIsInnocent
Mr. Turley always takes issue with Trump’s 1st Amendment free speech rights on J6. It rather than being a true constitutional scholar would bases his opinions on the text of constitution and requirements of Article VI that This Constitution is the Supreme Law and This Constitution is to be supported. In typical Lawyer fashion, interpretations of our constitution are tainted to Meet their goal, rather than follow the plain text as required. The first amendment rights of the president cannot be question. Our forefathers did not limit the first amendment. Forefathers knew if they limited first amendment speech it would nullify the rest of the first amendment and eventually, the constitution. Unfortunately, we now have judges, politicians, and activist that espouse speech they don’t like is hate speech and is unconstitutional.
If we look at the Unanimous supreme Court ruling of Ex Parte Milligan we see that the court declared that: “they secured the inheritance they had fought to maintain by incorporating in a written constitution the safeguards which time had proved were essential to its preservation. Not one of these safeguards can the President or Congress or the Judiciary disturb, except the one concerning the writ of habeas corpus.”
Our forefathers, and later the courts knew that evil people would make their way into government and try to destroy The supreme law of the United States. Today we see all three branches of our government involved in the practice of destroying our constitution that they are legally bound to support.
A true constitutional scholar would adhere to the text and principles of our constitution and teach this doctrine to all.
“Yet, again, what is more important historically is whether the J6 Committee had direct evidence that Trump made the offer of thousands of troops and that the White House pushed for rapid deployment troops on that day.”
There is irrefutable evidence that the National Guard (20,000) was offered to the Capitol Police (Pelosi) and Washington D.C. D.C.’s mayor, Bowser, declined in writing to accept them. This is key as a matter of law they cannot be deployed without approval by Bowser and Capitol Police (Pelosi).
Kash Patel’s testimony on 12/9/21 was considered by the J6 committee to be “unreliable” (Why?) and crucial evidence provided by Patel regarding the letter was omitted from the final report. The transcript of his deposition was subsequently made available without any evidentiary exhibits at the close of the 117 Congress. Why did the J6 committee deem it inappropriate to include Patel’s deposition and associated exhibits in its final report? This smells like a coverup.
Patel discussed Bowser’s letter and other aspects surrounding the National Guard on the 1/6/23 episode of Kash’s Corner, EpochTV. All of Patel’s exhibits, including Bowser’s letter and the transcript of his deposition are on his website (https://fightwithkash.com)
So, the J6 committee knew that Bowser and the Capitol Police (Pelosi) refused Trump’s offer of 20,000 National Guard troops and that the offer was turned down but did not publish Patel’s material. The pushback now from J6 committee members is a CYA moment.
A lot of people know all the demoncrats do is lie.
“Yet, again, what is more important historically is whether the J6 Committee had direct evidence that Trump made the offer of thousands of troops and that the White House pushed for rapid deployment troops on that day.”
There is irrefutable evidence that the National Guard (20,000) was offered to the Capitol Police (Pelosi) and Washington D.C. D.C.’s mayor, Bowser, declined in writing to accept them. This is key because as a matter of law they cannot be deployed without approval by Bowser and Capitol Police (Pelosi).
Kash Patel’s testimony on 12/9/21 was considered by the J6 committee to be “unreliable” (Why?) and crucial evidence provided by Patel regarding the letter was omitted from the final report. The transcript of his deposition was subsequently made available without any evidentiary exhibits at the close of the 117 Congress. Why did the J6 committee deem it inappropriate to include Patel’s deposition and associated exhibits in its final report? This smells like a coverup.
Patel discussed Bowser’s letter and other aspects surrounding the National Guard on EpochTV, Kash’s Corner: https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/kashs-corner-how-the-jan-6-committee-buried-crucial-evidence-twitter-files-expose-extensive-government-censorship-pressure-4966891. All of Patel’s exhibits, including Bowser’s letter, are at: https://fightwithkash.com/articles/exhibits-accompanying-kash-patel-testimony-before-the-j6-committee. The transcript of Patel’s deposition is at: fightwithkash.com/articles/kash-patels-deposition-before-the-j6-committee.
So, the J6 committee knew that Bowser and the Capitol Police (Pelosi) refused Trump’s offer of 20,000 National Guard troops and that the offer was turned down. The pushback now from J6 committee members is a CYA moment.
Sorry for off topic but this re my discussion below with S. Meyer on statins. Watch this interview:
https://youtu.be/x3BzgZqFuZc?si=AZJU3qLKJvKZagty
Young, this is interesting, but he is not the only cardiologist to hold such opinions. I wish he would have provided more data explaining his selection process, which frequently causes data to prove almost everything. I have no answers, but I stand with your wife and the cath guy (along with many studies from around the world, including those not done for statin research but showing positive results from the drug when the numbers are looked at from that aspect). My emphasis remains on statin’s effects on plaque.
S. Meyer- Sounds reasonable and I don’t know enough to make a firm decision for myself much less recommend a course for someone else. But I will keep looking and hold off statins for myself in the meantime. But thank you for your information.
British physicians like Aseem Malhotra have to do something, other than work within the NICE (National Institute for Health and Care Excellence) system, if they wish to make the money that American cardiologists do. He is being an entrepreneur, engaged in self-promotion, in order to market himself to prospective rubes and ignorant consumers. His kind have been around for millennia
Statins were brought to market in 1990s. I helped launch a statin that is still quite popular, for a Big Pharma company, so I am well versed on them. Statins initially were thought to lower deaths due to heart disease by inhibiting cholesterol synthesis, specifically an enzyme in the very long and complex cholesterol synthesis pathway. The FDA gave statins an indication to be used in people with familial hypercholesterolemia which at the time the prevalence was believed to be 1 out of 250 individuals. Today that number is said to be 1 in 300 or (0.003 %) which is quite low. People being what they are, slothful, gluttonous, and prideful, showed an increase in death due to myocardial infarctions and strokes despite not having familial hypercholesterolemia (FH). So Cardiologists began to Rx statins off label to patients who were at risk of MI and stroke despite not having FH, in an effort to save their lives in spite of themselves. Heart disease is the number 1 cause of death globally. Their Rx habits saved millions of lives because people would have died far earlier had it not been for being on statins
We now know that statins not only lower cholesterol, which causes MI and strokes in 50% of people, but also is an anti-inflammatory agent. The following is where the topic gets complex and is outside the scope of a legal blog. Suffice to say that atherosclerosis is now seen as an inflammatory process. It may be caused by any number of ligands like triglycerides, hyperglycemia, strain on the endothelium due to hypertension (reactive oxygen species from apoptosis), pathogens (bacteria and viruses), hypoxia (sleep apnea), and other ligands. Statins inhibit inflammation due to ligands that cause endothelial damage which initiates the long and protracted cascade over time to heart disease and death.
Statins save lives in those indviduals who suffer from some of the above mentioned maladies, many of which are self-imposed by self-destructive behaviors. Aseem Malhotra shows his ignorance by not addressing inflammation in heart disease, as opposed to cholesterol and the role of statins therein. In my 3 decades experience with statins, I have familiarity with less than 10 patients who were injured by statins. The injury argument is sensational much like the anti-mRNA vaccine argument you and others promote. Ignorance is like that.
references:
Brunham, L.R. and Hegele, R.A., 2021. What is the prevalence of familial hypercholesterolemia?. Arteriosclerosis, thrombosis, and vascular biology, 41(10), pp.2629-2631.
Furthermore, statins have been shown to decrease the number of inflammatory cells in atherosclerotic plaques and to possess other anti-inflammatory properties [51]. They have been proven to act as anti-inflammatory agents that slow the progression of disease [3]. The exact mechanism has not been clarified, but may lie in the inhibition of adhesion molecules such as intercellular adhesion molecule 1 or cytokines such as interleukins 6 and 8, which are involved in the accumulation of inflammatory cells [52]. It is remarkable that a study has shown that statins can mitigate the inflammatory response, independent of the inhibition of HMG-CoA reductase, by binding directly to a novel regulatory site of β2 integrin, the antigen 1 of leukocyte functionality [52]. The mechanism of anti-inflammatory properties of statins is further clarified by a study which showed that cerivastatin reduces monocyte adhesion to vascular endothelium by reducing the expression of integrins and reduces actin polymerization by deactivating RhoA [53].
Diamantis E, et al. The Anti-Inflammatory Effects of Statins on Coronary Artery Disease: An Updated Review of the Literature. Curr Cardiol Rev. 2017;13(3):209-216. doi: 10.2174/1573403X13666170426104611.
“Today that number is said to be 1 in 300 or (0.003 %) which is quite low.”
correction: 1/300 = 0.33%
Young, Estovir wrote an excellent piece and said some things I was reluctant to say since I know little of the cardiologist involved, but we have seen others and need help sorting out truth from fiction.
I never thought there was much risk in statins except the abnormal liver functions bothered me, but the hepatologist said he knew of no deaths and the changes were reversible. When people needed the drug and had specific symptoms, they could try different drugs, recognizing that some pass the blood-brain barrier and some do not, which could alter some of the symptoms.
Finally, we get to age. There are loads of drugs on the market to treat all sorts of maladies. In the elderly, with a shortened timeframe for life, I look for enjoyment and do not worry as much about medications not proven to provide significant effects in the short term. We are learning that with prostate cancer, among other things. One always has to remember the presentation drugs that were used in the same manner; Atromid S. is one. It probably caused more harm than good, and I, without the high risk, refused to take it.
S. Meyer– I was reminded that years ago I tried statins and quit because of muscle pain. After your and Estovir’s thoughtful comments I did a quick look for side effects and found this https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/statins/side-effects/#:~:text=Common side effects&text=dizziness,constipation, diarrhoea, indigestion or farting
It appears there are quite a few more potential side effects than I suspected, although I did wonder if statins are causing muscle cramps could they not also be causing a number of other problems, some of which are less obvious? Liver and pancreas complications could fall into that category. Possibly they aren’t for everyone.
Estovir raised the question of the Covid shots again so I have this
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/a-summary-of-the-evidence-against
Kirsch is a brilliant innovator who suffered an injury from his first Covid shot so he has been thorough in documenting problems with them. I don’t assume he is right on everything but he is the type of person who could be. One point independent of Kirsch is that nearly everyone knows someone close who has suffered a Covid vax injury. I do, several including one death according to the doctors treating her.
Then there is this, the sophisticates who nag about sipping a glass of wine or breathing second hand smoke while pregnant demand that one get injected with a novel technology never used on humans before, rushed to market, not formally approved [EULA] and for which the manufacturers demand total legal immunity from harms that it may cause while stating that it sometimes causes heart problems and that they have no idea what harm it may cause in the future and that they had to be ordered by a court to reveal their safety tests. Compared to this the Tuskegee Study looks like a series of picnics in a lovely park. And, oh yeah, despite promises, it doesn’t work. You would need a bout of temporary insanity to get it.
“quit because of muscle pain.”
Young, I understand muscle pain to be one of the significant side effects, but the difficulty is determining whether it is due to the statin. Blood work can be done, but that only shows considerable damage, not simple discomfort. Is it worthwhile to change the statin or to add other drugs that supposedly correct the problem or lower the dose?
Who knows? When I look at these things, I see them as statistical problems. Every alteration changes the statistics of life’s length and benefits. Then, one has to account for the fact that, in general, today, you are better off than tomorrow and better off than the following day. So goes life. We decline. What we do not want to do is interfere with the good life that comes earlier, only to keep the part of life we would rather not live.
Covid:
Without discussing the vaccine’s efficacy, the Biden administration managed it horribly. We did not follow well-known, consistent principles established over a long period of time. His administration permitted the vaccine to rule rather than common sense, thinking it was suitable for all if it was good for one. The administration lied and didn’t permit adequate investigation of all details, preventing those experts with alternative opinions from being heard. Considering the scope of the epidemic and the modern times we live in, this was the worst-managed healthcare crisis ever. Based on Biden’s management style, I blame him for the deaths and disability of many and the destruction of our economy.
S. Meyer– “understand muscle pain to be one of the significant side effects, but the difficulty is determining whether it is due to the statin.”
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Not so difficult. Stop the statin and see if the cramps go away; resume the statin and see if they come back. Yes and Yes…it was the statin. Simple science works. Like flipping a switch. Light comes on. Flip it again and light goes off, After a bit you get the idea.
A major problem with our management of Covid was its top down nature. Fauci and the rest established s protocol for everyone to follow. It killed people. The one friend we lost to treatment, another doctor, tested positive, waited at home until he got very sick and then went to the hospital,Remdesivir, intubation, organ failure, death. First Jewish funeral I have been to and I was moved. I asked his significant other why he hadn’t tried HCQ, but it was out of the question because Trump recommend it. They were very liberal. Having seen much more since then we are convinced our friend would have lived if he had taken HCQ at first symptoms.
Fauc, et al are bureaucrats, not health care providers, and in the field genuine clinicians treating patients were evolving effective treatments and we followed them and kept updating our Covid emergency kit as new information was developed by real doctors rather than paper shufflers.
When we got Delta Covid the kit came out and we used Ivermectin with the protocol developed by doctors who had successfully treated thousands of patients. Within 24 hours we felt better. I wondered if it were a placebo effect, but I will take it if I actually feel better. But later I heard the same from many others who took Ivermectin, felt better within one day. Prairie Rose who sometimes posts here said the same, felt better within a day. But treatment must continue for about a week. I have witnessed it now dozens of times and know the treatment those doctors treating patients worked out saved many lives. Our government killed many, not least by suppressing growing clinical data showing Ivermectin and HCQ saved lives. Tons of money played a role as well but I’ve written as much as I can for now, tiring.
“nearly everyone knows someone close who has suffered a Covid vax injury” no proof
a million americans died from covid. fact
“demand that one get injected with a novel technology never used on humans before, rushed to market” That is a lie. My wife was in trial testing
U no little and u lie.
My previous comment was intended as a response to ur nonsense but it ended up a few comments below.
Notice how Turley states, as if it is an established fact, that Trump DID “suggest” troops. The qualifier is the first word—“Report”, but the headline is worded to be deliberately misleading.: the affirmative statement that Trump DID request troops, something that is disputed and not proven by the information Turley relies on. If Turley wanted to be neutral, the headline should have read: “and so claims …”. However, springing from this premise that it was proven, Turley proceeds with one of his usual assignments—to criticize mainstream media, Democrats, and especially the J6 Committee, while throwing in qualifiers proving that he knows that the claims are just allegations and are disputed. He implies that evidence was suppressed. If he wanted to be fair, he should have said: “If this report is true…”, but he doesn’t. Notice how the disciples assume that the claims ARE true, which is the reason Turley slants what he writes as an advocate instead of like a journalist—he’s paid to defend Trump and Republicans. He can’t even write about an allegation that has surfaced without attacking the J6 Committee and accusing it of suppressing evidence.
@Gigi
No, but I see how you come here everyday and seem to do nothing BUT ‘suggest’ (and hurl invectives) and then refuse to provide any substantiation whatsoever. 🤷🏽♂️🙄 Actual pedants likely find you too pedantic.
GIgi is clearly an idiot. Trump offered the troops, it was DOCUMENTED, but since the MSM says it isn’t true, then I guess we MUST BELIEVE THEM – I mean really, when did these corrupt politicans ever pruposely lie to the American people?
WHERE is it DOCUMENTED? Is ther a letter on White House stationery, addressed to Muriel Bowser or anyone else? No. There is not. The so-called “MSM” only reports what people with knowledge state–and the claim that Trump “suggested” troops is disputed–and THAT is the point of my commentary.
There is a witness to his telephone call. The idea that a letter must be produced is a red herring.
However, u refuse to acknowledge the plethora of filthy lies your lord and savior, holy joe, spewed. U have 0 cred, kid.
My Dearest Gigi,
Once again, you refuse to even mention the million innocents who were butchered because slick didn’t lift a finger. That punk deserves prison.