Below is my column in the Hill on the recent decision in Georgia and the “odor of mendacity” rising out of various courtrooms across the country. It is the smell of not just selective prosecution but political bias in our legal system. It is becoming harder to deny the existence of a two-track system of justice in the country as commentators and even a few courts raise concerns over the role of politics in prosecutions.
Here is the column:
The removal of lead special prosecutor Nathan Wade from Donald Trump’s prosecution had the feel of a Southern Gothic.
Fulton County, Ga. District Attorney Fani Willis had described Wade as “a Southern gentleman. Me, not so much.” For weeks, the public has been enthralled by accounts of Wade’s illicit affair with Willis. Then there was the roughly three-quarters of a million dollars paid to Wade before he was booted from the case this week.
Channeling Tennessee Williams in his play “Cat on a Hot Tin Roof,” Judge Scott McAfee wrote that, after their testimony, there remained “an odor of mendacity.”
That odor was particularly strong after the hearings indicated that Wade may have committed perjury in his earlier divorce case, and that both Willis and Wade were credibly accused of lying on the stand about when their relationship began.
They are prosecuting defendants in the Trump case accused of the same underlying conduct, including 19 individual counts of false statements, false filings or perjury.
Yet, that distinct odor noted by Judge McAfee goes beyond the sordid affairs of Willis and Wade.
For many citizens, mendacity, or dishonesty, is wafting from various courtrooms around the country. The odor is becoming intolerable for many Americans as selective prosecution is being raised in a wide array of cases.
The problem is that courts have made it virtually impossible to use this claim to dismiss counts. Yet there is a disturbing level of merit to some of these underlying objections.
For years, conservatives have objected that there is a two-tier system of justice in this country. I have long resisted such claims, but it has become increasingly difficult to deny the obvious selective prosecution in a variety of recent cases and opinions.
I have long stated that the charges against Trump over documents at Mar-a-Lago are strong and based on established precedent. However, the recent decision of Special Counsel Robert Hur not to bring criminal charges against President Joe Biden has undermined even that case.
Hur described four decades of Biden serially violating laws governing classified documents. The evidence included Biden telling a third party that he had classified material in his house and actually reading from a classified document to his non-cleared ghostwriter. There is evidence of an effort to destroy evidence and later an effort of the White House to change the report. There is also Biden’s repeated denial of any knowledge or memory of the documents found in nine locations where he worked or lived.
Hur ultimately had to justify the lack of charges based on a belief that he could not secure a conviction from a D.C. jury with an elderly defendant with diminished mental faculties.
Although Special Counsel Jack Smith could still proceed on obstruction counts, his prosecution of Trump for the retention and mishandling of national security documents is absurdly in conflict with the treatment Biden is receiving.
In New York, the legislature changed the statute of limitations to allow Trump to be sued while New York Attorney General Letitia James effectively ran on a pledge of selectively prosecuting him. She never specified any particular crime, just promising to bag Trump.
Ultimately, James used a law in an unprecedented way to secure an absurd penalty of roughly half a billion dollars, even though no one lost a dime because of the Trump loans.
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has also come up with an unprecedented way of using a state law to effectively prosecute Trump for a federal offense that the Justice Department has already rejected.
The same odor has been lingering in the Hunter Biden cases. The Justice Department had reached a ridiculous plea agreement with Hunter Biden that would have allowed for no jail time and a sweeping immunity agreement that would have protected him from all of his other alleged crimes.
As the plea agreement fell apart in court, the prosecutor admitted that he had never seen a defendant given such a deal over his long career. This came after the Justice Department had allowed the statute of limitations to run out on major felonies and scuttled efforts to conduct searches and interviews. Even after that embarrassing hearing, the Justice Department was still trying to preserve the agreement.
It is not just the Trump and Biden cases where there is a stench of selective prosecution. Consider a few other recent cases.
In California, U.S. District Court Judge Cormac J. Carney issued an opinion that found such evidence of selective prosecution against conservative groups. In considering a far-right group, Carney noted that the Justice Department has had sharply different approaches based on the political views of the defendants. Antifa and other leftist groups often see charges dropped, whereas federal prosecutors seek draconian sentences against conservative defendants.
“Such selective prosecution leaves the troubling impression that the government believes speech on the left more deserving of protection than speech on the right. The government remains free to prosecute those, like Defendants, who allegedly use violence to suppress First Amendment rights. But it cannot ignore others, equally culpable, because Defendants’ speech and beliefs are more offensive. The Constitution forbids such selective prosecution,” Carney noted.
That treatment was equally glaring when federal prosecutors convicted an Antifa supporter who took an ax to the door of Sen. John Hoeven’s office in Fargo. He was given no jail time, and the FBI even returned his ax.
He later mocked the government by posting on social media “Look what the FBI were kind enough to give back to me!”
Likewise, this week, former U.S. Attorney Rachael Rollins was disbarred after being found to have lied to investigators about leaking material to the press for political purposes. Rollins had allegedly made a clear and knowingly false statement to federal investigators, but the Justice Department just shrugged it off and refused to indict.
FBI Director James Comey received similar gentle treatment after removing FBI material and arranging for information to be leaked to the media. Meanwhile, defendants such as Trump’s National Security Adviser Michael Flynn were pursued relentlessly for making false statements to investigators under Comey’s watch.
These and other cases have fulfilled Trump’s narrative about a politically weaponized legal system. The fact is that many in cities like New York are thrilled by selective prosecution and biased sentencing decisions directed at locally unpopular figures.
The rest of us are left in courtrooms, from Georgia to Washington to New York, asking the same question of Tennessee Williams’ “Big Daddy” Pollitt: “What’s that smell in this room? …Didn’t you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room? There ain’t nothin’ more powerful than the odor of mendacity.”
Jonathan Turley is the J.B. and Maurice C. Shapiro professor of Public Interest Law at the George Washington University Law School.
OT… From today’s 1A case before Supremes:
“My problem is your view has the First Amendment hamstringing the government in the most important times” -Justice Jackson
Houston, we have a problem.
Justice Jackson, Uh, that is, quite literally, the entire point of the First Amendment—of the entire Bill of Rights.
amen.
The modern left have mendacity as their first rule. Another poster shared that communists do not willingly give up power and I tend to agree. I do not know what we do or where we go from here in the West. Trump is going to win, just as he did in 2020, and this time I am not convinced people will just accept the mendacity, and it remains to be seen what means; and that is professing January 6th was an orchestrated farceto the nth degree.
One thing is for certain: had Hillary taken office in 2016, we would have already lost our rights, the courts would already be packed, and we’d be whistling in the dark like the people in Canada or the UK. most of us posters here would likely be in jail. And that is real, happening right now. Thank the gods for the interruption Trump brought, if nothing else. I am voting for him in 2024. The modern left has got to go. Vote for everything, folks, and if you live in a state with mail-in ballots, go in person and actually watch your ballot being fed into the machine, because we have no way of knowing what people just throw into the trash otherwise.
*James. A pet peeve: stop criticizing the Professor for grammatical errors; he does this for us for free, every day, and we all make mistakes in haste. How many of you post three times, at this length per day and still attend to a very full schedule of other responsibilities? I screwed up the capitalization of my (real) name. Sometimes my comments are stupid and worthless. Move on, for me, you, other posters, and the team that provides us this space.
Still say anonymous posters, even the one with salient points that think they’ll be persecuted for using a screen name or just can’t handle criticism – are cowards. You are likely not as important in the grand scheme as you imagine yourself to be, and it is very unlikely anyone in your local community notices or even cares, not in the age of iPhone addiction. I know that we have a wide, wide variety of folks here, from lawyers, to government employees, to veterans (and thank you ALL for your service), to people like me that have just dipped into those environments but care; stop being afraid. It’s the only way we take things back.
Jonathan: From GA to NY you now fall back on the false claim we now have a “two-tier system of justice in this country” and DJT is the victim of “selective prosecution”. A close scrutiny of some of the cases you cite shows just the opposite.
1. The RICO case in Ga: You first start with a spurious claim about the Willis/Wade relationship–falsely claiming it was an “illicit” and “sordid” affair. These descriptions usually refer to incestuous or affairs between married people. Cambridge defines sordid” as “unpleasant, dirty or immoral”. Neither applies to Wade or Willis. Wade was in the middle of a messy divorce and had not lived with his wife when he and Willis got romantically involved. Willis was single. Their was nothing “illicit” or “sordid” in their affair!
Then, as to Wade’s compensation he earned every penny when he was hired by Willis to prosecute the RICO case DJT and his co-defendants. The recommendation by the special grand jury and the indictments by the grand jury are proof positive of Wade’s hard and long work. Wade even successfully prevented Mark Meadows and other defendants from removing their cases to federal court. That shows the professionalism of Wade’s work.
And Wade made only $250 an hour–far less than he could have earned in private practice. That shows Wade’s commitment to public service. Wade’s only misstep was to get involved in a romantic relationship with his boss. But that affair did not distract from Wade’s diligent prosecution of the cases against the RICO defendants–and why Willis profusely commended Wade for his hard work when he was forced to resign.
2. Hur report: You strike out on this one too. This was not a case of “selective” non-prosecution. In his report Hur found there was no basis to charge Biden because, unlike the DJT, the President did not hide docs or obstruction Hur’s investigation. Biden even sat down for a long interview and answered all of Hur’s Qs. In his report Hur says prosecuting Biden would be difficult because Biden’s advanced age and memory lapses would make him a “sympathetic” defendant. But Hur had to admit in his Congressional testimony that Biden had a “photographic” memory. Kind of contradicts Hur’s claims in his report. Now as a Republican appointee, I think Hur would have liked to prosecute Biden but, bottom line, there was no legal basis for a prosecution.
This also puts the lie to your claim that Jack Smith’s case against DJT “is absurdly in conflict with the treatment Biden is receiving”. DJT was charged because he refused to turn over all the classified in his possession, stalled for over a year before he turned just 38 of those docs, moving the rest around Mar-a-Lago and other places to avoid detection and then tried to delete the video tape that showed what he was doing. Biden didn’t do any of that!
3. NY AG Letitia James case: This is the most ludicrous of your assertions of “selective prosecution”. James charged DJT and his companies under NY’s CIVIL fraud statute. The was no “crime” charged! And there was no “selective prosecution” of DJT. James routinely files cases against other NY companies that engage in systematic financial fraud. DJT was the most visible because his financial fraud was so vast and covered many years.
And why do you echo DJT’s main defense in the case that “no one lost a dime [the banks] because of the Trump loans”? That defense went nowhere with Judge Engoron. Why? Because James brought her case on behalf of the PEOPLE of NY who were defrauded when DJT got favorable loans, using false financial statements, that other customers could not get because they played by the rules.
And how do you explain the criminal prosecutions of Hunter and Dem. Senator Melendez? No “selective prosecutions” there. If DJT was President do you think he would allow his AG to bring criminal prosecutions against either Eric or Don Jr.? DJT would shut them down before they saw the light of day! In his campaign swings DJT says he is going to prosecute Liz Chaney and the rest of J.6 Committee for their report. It’s all about vengeance. And DJT says he will put reporters in jail if they don’t reveal the sources of their unfavorable stories about him. Now that would be “selective prosecution” in spades!
If you believe DJT version he is the victim of “selective prosecution” by “racist” prosecutors–like Fani Willis, Letitia James and Alvin Bragg–all BLACK prosecutors. DJT knows how to play the race card when it serves his purposes. In the end, when all else fails defendants frequently claim “selective prosecution” as a defense. It rarely works and it won’t work for DJT. And it won’t work for you either!
“Then, as to Wade’s compensation he earned every penny when he was hired by Willis”
He sure did, Dennis. Wade even billed for a full 24-hour block of legal work! How Wade had any time for romance while working and billing 24 full hours in one day is amazing.
Wade probably deserved to be paid for “dating” Willis. Not sure he was getting enough (money, I mean).
Fani is a 3 bagger. One over her head, one over his head and a spare in case one breaks to throw up in. Those bags are not going to buy themselves 🙂
“and why Willis profusely commended Wade for his hard work when he was forced to resign.”
Not to worry, Dennis. Fani will hire Nathan for another lucrative gig. Just you watch.
Question for you, Dennis. Did Fani Willis lie to the court? Yes or no.
Everyone who is being honest recognizes that these are selective prosecutions. Just look at the treatment Hillary Rodham Clinton received for committing multiple felonies.
What irks me the most about Hillary, Bill, Obama, et al, is they did nothing notable to make their millions aside from grifting and lying.
Hillary and Bill were nobodies other than he a failed governor of Arkansas and she a wife who rode her husband’s coattails, albeit he sexually abused women in their fake marriage. Barack wasnt even a tenured faculty member at the University of Chicago Law School. He was a “Lecturer” which is a title assigned to adjunct members. He did nothing worth remembering as a junior senator, and now he, like the Clintons and Bidens, are millionaires. If that werent insulting enough for those of us who earned our career income, these imposters are given the status of deity, as if we should genuflect when anyone mentions them, and allowed to commit crimes that any of us would be condemned to prison, eg. Peter Navarro
I never liked the Bushes because they were weak men and many often compared them to UK monarchs as to their wealth but at least they earned it. Trump inherited his wealth then put it to work in real estate, many business ventures, and so forth. But the Clintons and Obamas are everything Karl Marx decried about the bourgeois and yet here we are.
“The unity of the bourgeoisie can be shaken only by the unity of the proletariat.”
— Karl Marx
“In his report Hur found there was no basis to charge Biden because…”
Think real hard, Dennis, why would Hur, with the facts before him screaming otherwise, contort and distort his findings in order to come to his conclusion? Think.
“DJT was the most visible because his financial fraud was so vast and covered many years.”
No, DJT was politically targeted and selectively prosecuted because Miss Tish campaigned on ‘going after Trump’ and because Democrats NEED to stop Trump from moving back into the Oval Office. Period. There isn’t one person in the western world who doesn’t understand what is going on here. But for you, of course.
“DJT says he is going to prosecute Liz Chaney and the rest of J.6 Committee for their report…”
No, he says they should be prosecuted for their crimes, including withholding exculpatory evidence, destroying evidence, intentionally deceiving the public, etc.
Btw, how many shares of Haliburton do you think Liz Cheney and/or Daddy still holds? Would be interesting to find out what their financial stake is and just how profitable more ‘war’ is for Cheney, no?
Dennis “drive-By” McIntyre said: “he earned every penny when he was hired by Willis”
Boy musta done some ***prodigious*** rug munchin’
Dennis – why do you find it necessary to lie? Hur found that Biden WILLFULLY RETAINED classified documents. That finding by itself – and there was much more – justified prosection.
But see, in his propagandized, brainwashed mind, he is not lying. His media programming has situated him in another reality altogether. And he believes the TV programmers are telling him facts, truth. That he then regurgitates like a good little dupe.
In other words, his capacity for ‘thinking’ critically is gonzo. Kaput. He has been ‘programmed.’ Like MK Ultra level stuff.
Jim Breuer demonstrates TDS perfectly:
Gotta wonder if watching this that Gigi, Dennis, FishWings, et al can see themselves in this and laugh? This is hysterical because it is so true.
@Dennis
You write a whole lot to not say much. Bleating a narrative – yawn. Carrying water for a party, right or left, – yawn. I don’t think you realize how many of us who are non-party affiliated who are absolutely sick to death, beyond the point of exhaustion, with the modern democratic party. And we ain’t voting for that sheet anymore. Enjoy sharing your opinion, but understand that you aren’t convincing anyone of anything, but for your own insularity and small, closed, mind. I know you won’t go away, but consider the rest, because whatever happens, you are going to be again relegated to ranting on a street corner, passing out flyers people just throw away. I honestly don’t think we’ll again get to the point where Nazis like you are hanging people, and the repercussions will actually be more real in an era where human decency matters more. The likes of your days are numbered, and you should probably be counting. Nobody with a shred of sanity or actual human decency cares, Dennis, and you are kinda wasting your time, or your presumed employers dollars. You are nothing. Nobody cares.
Dennis: thank you again for your well-reasoned response, which covered points I was going to make. Sometimes, the things Turley writes are so absurd as to be laughable–to wit: calling the relationship between Wade and Willis “illicit”–what about Trump’s sexual liaisons with Stormy Daniels and others and the affairs that ended his marriages to Ivana and Marla (in fact his affair with Marla ended his marriage to Ivana, and his love child, named “Tiffany” attended her parents’ wedding). He nailed Daniels by luring her to his hotel room on the pretext that he would discuss financing a film she wanted to produce, because she wanted to move from in front of the camera to behind the camera by being a producer instead of a performer. This happened when Melania was giving birth to Baron. Wade testified that he and his his wife agreed that their marriage was over emotionally, if not yet legally, because his wife had been having an affair with another man. Wade and Willis’s relationship was far less “illicit” than the behavior of Trump, who, in addition to his extra-marital affairs and lying to get Stormy Daniels to his hotel room on a false pretext, was found to have sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll because she teased him about trying on womens’ lingerie. Then, there’s the bragging about “puxxy grabbing” and kissing women he finds “beautiful” because he believes himself to be entitled.
Turley also tries to claim that the State of New York changed the statute of limitations for sexual assaults just to bag Trump. The window allowing for formerly stale claims to be brought applies to anyone and everyone who might have sexually assaulted someone–not just Trump.
Talk about the powerful odor of mendacity, how about Turley’s claim that Willis and Wade were “credibly accused of lying”, and Turley’s feeble attempt to compare whatever “lying” Willis and Wade engaged in is the same as what Trump is charged with–trying to rig the vote and falsifying Electoral College documents–implying, for the benefit of the gullible, that Willis is a hypocrite. Trump knew he lost–he had to know–he was behind in the polls, and as the votes were counted, it became clear that the polls were right. He tried to bully Fox News into retracting their projection that he lost Arizona. He was told before election day, by experienced campaign people, that the in-person votes would favor him, but mail and absentee ballots would favor Biden, and that he should expect to initially be ahead, but that this lead would be lost as absenteee and mail ballots were counted. He tried to stop states from counting mail and absentee ballots, and to this day, he and Republicans try to cast doubt on the validity of mail and absentee ballots–all without any proof of fraud–and solely because they tend to benefit Democratic candidates, even though some states only use mail ballots, and Trump and Pence both voted absentee He took a victory lap at 2:00 a.m., claiming he won–knowing this wasn’t tru.e He decided he wasn’t going to go away quietly, and began planning for the Big Lie before election day. We all know the rest–the “Stop the Steal” tours, calls to Secretaries of State, bullying of Pence and Secretaries of State, and planning for and inciting the insurrection. Turley’s pathetic effort to compare Trump’s attempts to undermine the will of the American people by cheating to stay in office with Willis and Wade allegedly lying about an affair–something that could not possibly prejudice Trump–is the epitome of mendacity.
Turley is an attorney–in fact, he sells his punditry under the banner of the University for which he works and his law license. He whines about the size of the civil judgment against Trump and repeats the lame arguments that “nobody lost a dime”. Turley knows better–he knows that actual default and loss to the lender is not an element of proof for bringing a fraud case based on misrepresentations on loan applications. He also knows that Judge Engoron based the damage award on the amount of money Trump benefitted from as a direct result of his lying on financial statements and loan applications. Talk about trading in mendacity……
Gigi – Did DA Fani Willis lie to the court? Yes or no.
The trier of fact did NOT rule that she had. Period. End of report. Whether he thinks people could be suspicious about when their relationship started is irrelevant. Trump’s blondie lawyer tried to prove that Willis plotted all along to hire her boyfriend as Special Counsel, pay him an unreasonably large hourly rate, and the both would benefit by lavish dinners and luxury vacations paid for by the taxpayers of GA. None of those things were proven–and it’s not because of “selective prosecution”. Willis first approached the former GA governor to be Special Prosecutor–he declined. Wade’s hourly rate was $250, which is low. Wade did a lot of work for which he billed–and there’s no proof that he padded the bill. She testified that she paid for her half of expenses in cash, in keeping with her family’s practice of paying for things in cash. There’s no proof to the contrary. So, no matter how many paid pundits claim she’s a liar–that was not found by the trier of fact.
“There’s no proof to the contrary.”
Correct, the DA, a public official, kept no receipts, no documentation, no record, no nuthin’ but her word that she paid him back in cash from under her mattress. Totally believable. No proof to the contrary, of course.
“The trier of fact did NOT rule that she had. Period. End of report.”
No, Judge McAfee left that door wide open. He found there were “reasonable questions about whether the District Attorney and her hand-selected lead SADA testified untruthfully about the timing of their relationship”….
Tell me what does the TIMING of their relationship have to do with Trump trying to bully Raffensberger, lying about winning, and getting fake electors to falsify campaign documents, all to defeat the will of the people of the State of Georgia? The woman who claimed that she KNEW they had a relationship earlier was a disgruntled former employee who was fired by Willis. Wade’s law partner backed off of prior statements about an earlier onset of their affair, declaring that he was “speculating”—all of which amounts to “so what’? All just a side show to deflect away from Trump’s effort to steal the Electoral College votes in Georgia.
Because it is reasonable to assume that members of the public would look at her relationship with Wade and assume that her ‘coitus’ with him just might ‘interuptus’ her ability to exercise her independent judgment as the supervising District Attorney on the case.
We call this novel legal theory: Fani coitus interruptus
No, what you claim is not “reasonable” at all. The case was presented to a Grand Jury–they returned a true bill–finding that there was probable cause that Trump, and the other Defendants, committed the various crimes with which they are charged. And, this true bill was based on evidence, much of which we’ve all seen and heard–like the call to Raffensberger and the fake Electoral College documents. Willis didn’t make up the charges. Your efforts at “coitus interruptus” jokes are lame BTW. Just like everything else with Trump when he gets caught doing wrong–he attacks the accuser, he lies and engages in delay and diversionary tactics because he can’t defend on the actual facts.
Glad you enjoyed my joke. My work is done here.
DA Fani’s agenda moving forward will be what? Retribution.
Seething retribution for the tables being turned on her and putting her misconduct on trial.
“I am not on trial, no matter how hard YOU try to put me on trial!”
“Don’t get cute with me.” Ya hear?
Fani is right–it’s what Trump and pro-Trump media, of which I include Turley, always do–accuse the accuser of misconduct, lying, bad behavior, whatever. She’s right–she’s not on trial–Trump is–and the crimes of which he is accused undermine the very core of American democracy. He cannot be allowed to get away with trying to steal votes in Georgia. The judge did NOT find “misconduct”–so “her misconducdt” was NOT put on trial. His blondie lawyer trired to prove that Willis plotted to enjoy luxury vacations and lavish meals paid for by Georgia taxpayers by hiring her boyfriend and overpaying him–she failed to prove this. That’s the end of it. Trump still did what he is accused of–trying to rig the vote in Georgia.
“The judge did NOT find “misconduct”–so “her misconduct” was NOT put on trial.”
And do you know what that completely irrational, illogical finding means to most every observer of this circus? It means this: That judge does not belong on the bench.
Do you even know what mendacity means?
Wade’s rate of $250 was higher than the $150 rate paid to the other 2 lawyers that actually had RICO trial experience
She was his boss and any CEO found sleeping with a subordinate would be fired
He literally billed a 24 hour block, which is virtually impossible
And Willis did not provide any proof of repayment to Wade
whoaaa boy. We predicted this comment coming (and from both of them) didn’t we?
I sure do appreciate the stability of successful predictability in our lives, n’est ce pas?
Gigi, Gather your comrades Denny and Fishy for a listening partay. Try to catch every word 😉
Do you even understand what you wrote? “Wade was in the middle of a messy divorce and had not lived with his wife.” Being in the middle of a divorce means he’s still married. Most people would consider that immoral, sordid and illicit.
I didn’t bother to read any further.
Maybe a purple-haired date now and then might help Dennis?
“You first start with a spurious claim about the Willis/Wade relationship–falsely claiming it was an “illicit” and “sordid” affair. These descriptions usually refer to incestuous or affairs between married people. Cambridge defines sordid” as “unpleasant, dirty or immoral”.”
It was unpleasant dirty and immoral.
It is near universally immoral for a boss to have an affair with a subordinate.
It is a violation of the rules of legal ethics for such things to occur involving lawyers on a case without disclosure.
It is always immoral and improper for someone in govenrment to have an affair with a subordinate.
Wade BTW WAS married.
“Wade was in the middle of a messy divorce and had not lived with his wife when he and Willis got romantically involved. ”
also known as still married.
“as to Wade’s compensation he earned every penny when he was hired by Willis”
Have you listened to Wade on the stand – or in hearings prior to this ?
Wade got his law degree using cereal box tops. He is not worth 750K, he is not worth minimum wage as a lawyer.
Frankly most of the lawyers who had to testify in this came off really really poorly – incompetent,
lacking basic knowlege of the law.
This was an embarrassing mess for those on the left.
There are now a number of left wing legal scholars calling for Willis to step down.
Some because unless she does Trump will be able to delay this forever.
Some because it is self evidence that she is out of her league.
Andrew MacCarthy noted this was a win-win for Trump. Willis is weak and wounded. her credibility is shot.
Trump and the remainder of these defendants have the best shot at gtting this kicked with Willis continuing on the case.
“The recommendation by the special grand jury and the indictments by the grand jury are proof positive of Wade’s hard and long work.”
6 major charges were just dissmissed. At the very least that is because the prosecutors did NOT do their job with the GJ.
More likely because the charges are garbage. Regardless, this is evidence fo a piss poor job – not a good one.
“Wade even successfully prevented Mark Meadows and other defendants from removing their cases to federal court.”
Only for the moment.
“And Wade made only $250 an hour–far less than he could have earned in private practice.”
wade was not billing 250+/hr in private practice.
Please provide his tax return.
Pretty sure his Wife will give that too you.
“Wade’s only misstep was to get involved in a romantic relationship with his boss.”
And lie about it to the divorce court, and lie about it under oath, and lie about it in court filings, and lie …..
“But that affair did not distract from Wade’s diligent prosecution of the cases against the RICO defendants–and why Willis profusely commended Wade for his hard work when he was forced to resign.”
Incorrect and irrelevant. The duty of prosecutors is to the Truth not to winning.
“In his report Hur found there was no basis to charge Biden”
OIr listen to Hur’s congressional testimony. Hut has Biden slapped everyone who claimed that he found no basis to charge.
That is FALSE.
“the President did not hide docs or obstruction Hur’s investigation.”
Both false and not the legal standard.
If you rob a bank, and you cooperate with the police afterwards – you are still guilty of a crime.
There is no legal standard of innocent by virtue of cooperation after the fact.
Regardless, Hur DID find that Biden “hid the documents” – Trum BTW did not, they have been at MAL until the FBI removed them.
Biden’s docs were moved repeatedly – some as many as 4 times.
Further BIDEN knew about them for 40+ years.
he did not return them.
They were returned to government custody 18months after Staff found them, ran arround like chickens with their heads cut off panicing, and then arranged to have Trump raided to distract.
What they did NOT do was call up NARA to pick up the docs.
“Biden even sat down for a long interview and answered all of Hur’s Q”
Where he lied under oath – Repeatedly.
“But Hur had to admit in his Congressional testimony that Biden had a “photographic” memory.”
Nope.
“Kind of contradicts Hur’s claims in his report.”
DM you have a massive problem – Hur gave you a gift – take it.
If you undermine Hur’s argument that Biden is incompetent
What you are left with is someone who has spent 40 years of public service KNOWINGLY stealing classified documents and illegally sharing them, while lying under oath about it.
“Now as a Republican appointee, I think Hur would have liked to prosecute Biden but, bottom line, there was no legal basis for a prosecution.”
There was never going to be a prosecution – that was NEVER a question. Biden is a sitting president, he can not be prosecuted without being impeached and removed first.
Hur had a choice between – I can not prosecute someone who inarguably has been violating the espionage act for decades because he is president, and I can not prosecute him because he is a doddering fool.
The findings in the Hurr report are DAMNING. Biden’s conduct was KNOWING, WILLFULY, he SHARED classified information. He handled it recklessly. HJe lied about it in sworn testimony.
DM – AGAIN – Biden’s legal team told Hurr that the PRA covered ex-VP’s and that it is not a crime for ex-vp’s to posess classified docs.
Further that was the position of DOJ/OLC for the past 4 decades. It is the conclusion of multiple court cases.
Whether you like it or not – as a result of the Hurr investigation, and as a result of Trump’s Discovery.
Trump can now PROVE, that the legal argument he is making that these documents – classified or not, are HIS, and that he is permitted to have them is NOT some new position of Trump’s attornies,
But the position of the courts, the DOJ/OLD and even Biden’s own lawyers.
“This is the most ludicrous of your assertions of “selective prosecution”. James charged DJT and his companies under NY’s CIVIL fraud statute. The was no “crime” charged!”
Correct, That does not change whether it is selective prosecution. BTW the statute she charged under was a consumer fraud statute, and this is not a consumer case. The law litterally does not apply.
“James routinely files cases against other NY companies that engage in systematic financial fraud.”
If you are claiming James routinely files crap cases – that is correct.
But she has never filed a case using this law. In fact this law has very rarely ever been used and never in anything close to this way – that is the defintion of “selective prosecution”
” DJT was the most visible because his financial fraud was so vast and covered many years.”
There was no fraud. Fraud requires deceiving someone you have a duty to, to their harm.
Those are the REQUIRED elements of all fraud.
DM – you lie here all the time – that is NOT fraud, it is not a crime.
If you lie, and others rely on your lie – and they are harmed as a result – that is NOT A CRIME.
You must have not only a lie, AND Harm, but you must had a DUTY.
Consumer fraud applies to commerce that takes place without an explicit contract – hence the “Consumer”
In those instance the LAW creates a default contract, but that default contract is ALWAYS subordinate to an ACTUAL contract.
That law creates a default duty of sellors to be honest about their products. When that duty is breached, and there is harm – then there is fraud. If I tell you that my hamburger is the best hambuger in the world, that it is worth $26, but that I will sell it to you for $2.50.
and you buy the hamburger for 2.50 and later discover it was not worth $25 – that is not Fraud, because you were not harmed.
You lost something that was never yours to begin with.
You have to have a lie, you have to have a duty, and you have to have actual harm – or you DO NOT HAVE FRAUD.
This is atleast 500 years of law.
Trump and lendors had a very explicit contract – likely many many pages long. There are no “implied” duties.
I would further note that in a lending situation – Trump is the buyer – not the seller. So consume fraud statutes would cover fraud by the Bank, not the lender. The bank is not a naive consumer needing protection.
Again the text of the US constitution forbids govenrment from interfering in contracts.
DB and Trump had an actual detailed written contract with each other – THAT governs this transaction.
Had Trump violated that Contract DB would have had grounds to sue – and DB is perfectly capable of doing so.
James had absolutely no business getting into this.
There was no duty breached, there was not harm done, there was no state interest in this at all.
This constitutes THEFT by the State of NY.
Further as has been noted – that you ignore – this is scaring the $hit out of investors.
If this is upheld there is no limit to the meddling tht prosecutors like James and judges like engoron can do.
Contra YOUR claim, Contra James’s claim, Contra Engoron’s claim – THERE WAS NO FRAUD. No one was harmed, no duty was breached.
If James can do this – there is nothing that she can not do in private transactions.
I would further note the “damages” are as I said “theft” – this was a contract between DB and Trump.
DB was not harmed. The claim that they would have made more money is nonsense.
If DB could have made more money – they would have.
DB only has a certain amount of money available to lend – they are a huge bank so that is a very high number.
Regardless they work hard to lend that money out at the highest interest to the lowest risk clients in the largest amounts.
If they could have found someone who would pay a higher rate or was a lower risk – then they would not have loaned to Trump.
Right now almost no one wants to loan to Trump – specifically because – they do not want the risk of being involved with this legal nonsense with James. Because you have engaged in lawfare against Trump YOU have artificially increased the risk to doing business with him.
That is an unconstitutional taking.
One of the other problems you have with this case is that purportedly James/.Engoron calculated the amount here based on some alleged loss to DB – if that is the case – then they money belongs to FB – NOT James.
Conversely if this is NOT a judgement for compensation to DB – then it is a Fine and the 8th amendment bars excessive fines.
James and Engoron will be Biden slapped over this – because they are both on the wrong side of the law, the constitution, the facts, and the politics.
I do not want to predict precisely what the NY apellate courts will do, but I would be shocked if they do not fix this quickly.
Numerous high profile people have announced they will not do business in NY. For every person you hear SAYING that there are dozens who are quietly divesting themselves of NY. Will everyone leave – of course not.
But James/Engoron have raised the risk of doing business in NY. Some will leave, others will raise their costs.
A state that is already russing towards bankruptcy will see lower revenue and higher costs.
I will note – this is going to happen – even if the appeals courts reverse.
But it will be worse the longer they take, and far worse still if they do not.
I would bet this decision has ALREADY cost NY hundreds of millions in revenue, and billions economically.
And that is particularly bad given the weak state NY is already in.
“why do you echo DJT’s main defense in the case that “no one lost a dime [the banks] because of the Trump loans”?”
Because actual harm is a requirement of the law. Worse than that – it is a requirement of the social contract.
The social contract is not each of us ceding all out liberty to govenrment to run our lives as it pleases.
The social contract ceded power to govenrment in return for protection from harm.
Where there is no harm – we are outside the domain of govenrment.
” That defense went nowhere with Judge Engoron.”
Engorn does not know the law.
“Because James brought her case on behalf of the PEOPLE of NY who were defrauded when DJT got favorable loans, using false financial statements, that other customers could not get because they played by the rules.”
False. The People of NY were not defrauded, They were not harmed. This is idiotic left wing nonsense.
First, If I choose to give you money – for my own reasons, and I chose not to give money to someone else – for my own reasons – no one is defrauded.
The law does not and can not require that private parties can not choose who they wich to deal with and who they do not.
Ultimately you are litterally arguing communism. There is no difference between Government controlls the decisions that private parties make, and government just steps in an elminates the private parties and does as it pleases.
Neither James nor NY have any business deciding who DB can give preferential treatment to.
Could others not get the loans Trump got ? Absolutely. But not because trump lie on statements that are LITTERALLY NOT FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. But because any loan to you will be based on YOUR credit record, YOUR Risk.
No one in NY would have done better had DB not loaned Trump moneyh – in fact they would have done WORSE.
A good loan to Trump means lower operating costs, means lower rents, means everyone from Trump down to the workers and consumers that make use of Trump properties are just a tiny bit better off – not worse.
Regardless, We have improperly and unconstitutionally decided that for VERY SPECIFIC reasons that private actors can not discriminate based on race or sex, or disability. These are the ONLY criteria that private actors may not use to discriminate.
Discriminate is just a different word for CHOOSE. I can discrimate against/for you because you have red hair, brown eyes, because you are a convicted fellon, because you wore a green Tshirt.
Whether you like it or not nearly all private discrimination is legal.
You claim that the people of NY were defrauded is doubly false.
They were not – there was nothing they were entitled to that they lost. There was nothing that the people of NY lost.
In FACT the people of NY benefited from Trump’s loans.
You are litterally trying to read communism into the law.
Because you have SAID something – like that the people of NY lost something – does not actually make it true.
But pretending it is true means that you have decided that the state is both allowed to and able to decide who benefits and who does not from purely private decisions that do not involve actual harm.
Not getting something that you think you might have that you think you are entitled to is NOT actual harm.
Actual harm is something that is proveable – not something you just make up or guess at.
It is not speculative,
“And how do you explain the criminal prosecutions of Hunter”
more evidence of political bias.
Hunter is not being prosecuted – if he was he would have been in jail years ago.
He would have served his sentence and been out by now.
You are providing an example that SUPPORTS the selective prosecution claim.
Thoguh I would note that you are confusing political bias and selective prosecution.
These are NOT the same – though they SOMETIMES happen concurrently.
Selective prosecution is where the prosecutor picks and chooses who they prosecute based on the PERSON, not based on the facts of the case.
A prosecutor can decline one case and pursue the next. But the more it looks like that choice is being made based on WHO is being prosecuted (or who is NOT), that is elective prosecution.
The REASON for the selective prosecution – can be personal or political animoisty, it can be race, it can be party, it can be any of myriads of legitimate reasons. All that is required is that the law is not being applied equally.
Is politics a factor in the slective prosecution of Trump – absolutely.
James, Bragg, and Willis all ran for office on the promise to go after Trump.
That alone disqualifies them from doing so.
Trump ran on “lock her up” – Did Trump direct the DOJ to go after Clinton ? No! Because that would have been viewed as selective prosecution. Trump promised to target a specific person – and then he did.
The prosecution was not about the alleged crime. It was about the person. That is unconstitutional.
Menedez was not targeted. No one promised to go after Menendez. The US Attorney going after Mendez was not elected and certainly did not run promising to “Get menedez” Menedez is being prsecuted because the FBI investigated allegations of public corruption – and those allegations lead to menedez.
The FBI did not start investigating menedez looking for ANY possible crime.
In the US you can not target a person. You must investigate CRIMES – not people. You then prosecute the people that you find committed them.
“If DJT was President do you think he would allow his AG to bring criminal prosecutions against either Eric or Don Jr.?”
Did Eric and DJT comitt a crime ? Hunter did.
Biden has the power to pardon Hunter if he wishes.
“In his campaign swings DJT says he is going to prosecute Liz Chaney and the rest of J.6 Committee for their report.”
And he has promised that he will not.
He said “lock her up” regarding Hillary – but did not direct DOJ to go after Hillary.
No one is going after Chenney. Her conduct as ranking member of the J6 committee is protected by immunity.
Regardless, the electorate punished her already – and will contrinue to do so.
That is how we prosecute “political crimes” in this country.
“It’s all about vengeance.”
“nobody messes with a Biden” – isn’t that all about vengeance ?
Isn’t Democrats going after Trump about Vengeance – as well as the fear that he will win ?
Democrats are openly and admittedly terrified that Trump will do to them what they did to him ?
As to selective prosecution – you should hope Trump wins.
Because if he loses AND still wins the election which is likely – then you will have established that he CAN go after vengeance.
“And DJT says he will put reporters in jail if they don’t reveal the sources”
Obama went after journalists.
Biden went after journalists.
Biden litterally sought to censor ANYONE for unfavorable comments.
Trump would have pardoned Assange but for Faux impeachment II.
You focus way to much on what are often misquotes of what people say – and ignore the actually evil things that people do.
“Now that would be “selective prosecution” in spades!”
Not that would not. You do not know what selective prosecution means.
It would however be wrong.
Obama – DID IT.
Biden DID it.
Trump – Did not.
“If you believe DJT version”
I am not paying any attention to “DJT’s version. I pay very little attention to What Trump says.
Most of what I know about what Trump has said is from fact checking your misquotes.
I do not care what Trump says.
I care what people DO.
What Trump has ACTUALLY done.
What Biden has actually done.
What the left has actually done.
You lose.
Bragg, James, Willis, Wade Bradley – as well as Chuktan, Howell, Pan, Kaplan(judge), Merchan, and Erogan
are all lawless idiots. Most of them are an embarrassment to the legal profession.
And they have severely damaged trust in the legal system.
As even left leaning MSM nuts have observed – every time you indict Trump every time you drag him into court – his poll numbers go up.
AGAIN – Trump long ago got every single MAGA vote that he could. Trump has SOLIDLY held his base many years now.
If Trumps poll numbers rise – that is Democrats and independents he is gaining.
YOUR lawfare is alienated people.
This is not ME claiming this – even left wing talking heads are noticing.
regardless it is the polls speaking.
It is not just about the fact that Trump is leading – it is about the fact that albeit slowly his trend is RISING.
Bide got no SOTU Bump – unsurprising. While he did not schiff himself publicly. He delivered a nasty political lie filled SOTU – but atleast he did so competently.
Of course SC Hur has unintentionally boxed Biden in – he is trapped in a binary.
Either he is incompetent or he is a criminal.
Despite your best efforts – there is no middle. Biden was not exhonerated, he was damned by Hur.
Not only did Hur call Biden out as a demented old man. But specified that if he was competent he was a willful, reckless criminal.
You keep saying that you know Trumps strategy and that it will not work.
What is self evident is that you DO NOT know Trump’s strategy and that it IS working.
Trump is not going to win every conflict – legal or otherwise between now and the election.
He is not going to win every one that he should win.
But he is easily going to win enough to win the overall conflict.
I highly doubt any of these cases will come to trial. But if one of them managed – and you go a conviction – it is increasingly likely that would not effect the election. Why – because YOU have undermined peoples trust in the legal system.
You constantly look to echo Clinton’s deplorables labels.
But we are way way way past Trump’s base.
YOU have alienated the middle.
When we break down the machine breaks down and when the rule of law breaks down men will make their own law.
It’s such a shame that Turley who once could be invited to any talk or political show on TV has turned himself into a political hack for Trump. Then again, writing to the Trump Cult has got to be the easiest job there is, they will believe anything.
The legal expert on the left who stick to the rule or law, the constitution as it is not as they wish it was, the law as it is not as a weapon against political opponents, increasingly find that they are not welcome on the woke MSM.
This is about Trump – FOR YOU.
It is about blind justice to the rest of us.
The recent hearings in FL should have been enlightening.
the SC/Bratt are arguing to the court that SC Hur was WRONG to not charge Biden. They are arguing that DOJ should have prosecuted Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama.
They are arguing that 4 decades of DOJ/OLC opinions are WRONG. T hey are arguing that centuries of legal standards are WRONG. They are arguing that 4 decades of caselaw on the PRA and clasified document is WRONG. They are arguing that 250 years of US history and tradition are WRONG.
Despite the fact that there are many examples of Presidents taking classified documents – the SC has ceded that nearly every president (and VP) since the PRA passed has taken classified documents, and they have seceded that NONE of those have been prosecuted – and that DOJ/OLC has repeated said that preidents/VP’s can do that.
SC Bratt has ceded that the president can take classified documents.
As the hearing proceded the clear question was – why were we here AT ALL ?
There is a growing body of evidence that the WH drove all of this, and that they did so having been told by DOJ there was no there there.
The entire case should be tossed out by Judge Cannon. That’s what SHOULD happen.
The left always projects.
I don’t believe a damned thing you’ve posted in a couple years. Surely you believe that?
FishWings — Do you think someone who is brainwashed by a Cult, knows they are in a Cult?
Cuz you are, Fishy. YOU are the one being programmed.
Fishstick, If you had any degree of reading comprehension and joined the rest of us here in reality, you would see the level of corruption the good professor is pointing and has been for quite some time, out.
But in your cult like brainwashed alt-reality, you keep screaming Trump!Trump!Trump!
Just like you and your other cult followers fell for the Russian hoax, the 51 intelligence officers and the laptop from hell, denied the existence of that laptop and continue to a degree to this day despite it being deemed authentic by multiple sources, and likely you believe the recent “bloodbath” hoax from not only MSM, but the Biden campaign.
You are truly living in a cult.
Here’s what your hero said:
““If you’re listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends — but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now … you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us, no. We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected,” Trump said.
“Now if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s gonna be the least of it,” he added. “It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That’ll be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars.”
Trump’s threats of a “bloodbath” are clearly are NOT limited to the automotive industry–why did he add, TWICE: “that’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the entire country. That’ll be the least of it.” WHY should tariffs on imported cars result in a “bloodbath for the entire country” if Trump gets voted out once again?
So, you are the one living in a cult. You believe the pro-Trump media attacks on mainstream media, but mainstream media didn’t get it wrong. This isn’t the only time he’s threatened violence if he loses again, and we all saw January 6th. What you’re seeing is a scared little boy who’s always gotten away with whatever he wants–from puxxygrabbing to falsifying loan documents–and the piper has come to be paid.
“Trump’s threats of a “bloodbath” are clearly are NOT limited to the automotive industry”
That would be because the lead to the remark was entirely about China and Cars and what immediately followed was about China and cars ?
“WHY should tariffs on imported cars result in a “bloodbath for the entire country””
Because China’s economy is extremely fragile right now.
So what you’re saying is that Trump declared there is a ‘war on cars’ and he’s going to stop it?
He’s going to stop the bloodbath of jobs due to Biden’s war on cars.
How is that bad for America?
It’s not. So Biden and his mockingbird media must spread vicious, wicked lies. It’s all they’ve got: Wicked Lying.
Gigi,
Practically every day for the past 8 years we have heard left wing nuts like you “Saying Trump said something that will bring about the end of the world”
And yet the world is still here. And nearly all of us recognize that it was better during 4 years of Trump that under Biden.
Outside of the left – most people are not paying much attention to what Trump SAYS.
Much of the time he is just trying to get you all worked up into s frothing lather.
We judge Trump by what he has DONE.
By that measure Trump is far preferable to Biden.
And the only thing you can do to change that is to get Biden to actually succeed – which is not happening.
Better under Trump–eh? Did you forget the daily new records for COVID deaths and infections? Did you forget the refrigerated trucks parked outside hospitals to handle the flood of corpses while your hero lied about how serious COVID was and pushed fake cures like Hydroxychloroquine? Did you forget that the country was shut down for 2 years, no school, no vacations, no restaurants, businesses shut down–because he allowed COVID to get out of control? Did you forget the double-digit unemployment he left Biden to deal with, and the crumbling infrastructure, the shortage of computer chips and consumer goods due to his stupid tariffs, and the record high deficit, due to tax breaks for the wealthy? Only you Trump fans overlook these facts when you claim that things were better under Trump. The first part of his fake presidency, the economy was good–all due to left overs from Obama and his successful turn around of the mess Bush left him with. Trump is the one who brought about all of the economic carnage Biden fixed.
And what has Trump DONE that you credit him with? The only legislative accomplishment was the tax breaks mostly benefitting the wealthiest individuals and corporations–that resulted in a record for the deficit. He tried to do away with Obamacare–but failed. He was an international embarrassment–other countries mocked him with Baby Trump balloons and Trump on the Toilet balloons. He embarrassed the US by physically pushing aside other leaders at a NATO conference and stepping ahead of Queen Elizabeth in London so he could get in front of the cameras before she did–an absolute insult to her. He insulted veterans by calling them “suckers and losers”, and wouldn’t attend a ceremony at a cemetery in France because the drizzle would deflate his pompadour. He praised white supremacists by calling them “fine people”, and bragged about assaulting women. He called migrants “vermin, animals, murderers and rapists”, and kidnapped children to dissuade people from migrating here. He lied about losing, caused an insurrection, watched carnage he caused unfold for over 3 hours and did nothing. Did you forget all of these things?
First – those of you on the left should have the decency to shut up about Covid – you have been caught LYING about absolutely everything.
” Did you forget the daily new records for COVID deaths and infections?”
Nope, but I also did not forget how you can lie with statistics.
If there were zero before and a brand new epidemic starts – then for many many many days every day will be a new record.
There were 3 times as many covid deaths under Biden.
“Did you forget the refrigerated trucks parked outside hospitals to handle the flood of corpses ”
We did lots of stupid an unnecescary things.
The US death rate in 2009 was the lowest recorded at 8.131 per 100,000 in 2020 it was 8.8, in 2023 it was 9.172
The death rate has gone up every year since 2009
The highest rate of increase was in 2014 – Obama was president. The rate of increase has been declining since then.
“Did you forget that the country was shut down for 2 years”
False, it was shutdown for a few weeks.
Left wing nuts like you shutdown SOME schoolks and SOME states or parts of them – to their own harm.
I ate in resturaunts in NYC in late 2020. Not shutdown – though seriously screwed up.
“Did you forget the double-digit unemployment he left Biden to deal with”
Not accorfing to FRED
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Do we have to constantly debunk theis garbage from you.
“and the crumbling infrastructure”
Didn’t we spend billions on infrastructure under Obama ?
Sorry Gigi – whether it is Trump ro Obama or Biden – When politicains talk about infrastructure – it just means they want to waste money.
There was no need for the Trump spending or the Biden spending.
The vast majority of US infreasturcture is paid for by relatively low local taxes, and the rest by Gas taxes.
“the shortage of computer chips”
One of my busineses is involves semiconductors.
I have a publish paper in a technical journal on smart memory design, for two years I worked as a consultant for Micron – the 3rd largest memory manufacturer int he world. I know a bit about chips
The so called “chip shortage” is ongoing and has been worse int he Biden administration.
That is NOT actually biden’s fault anymore than it is Trumps. It is driven by demand outstripping supply.
“consumer goods due to his stupid tariffs”
The supply chain F#$kup was ENTIRELY during the Biden admin. Though fundimentally it was caused by China’s Zero covid policies. Though the Biden admin handled it abysmally. China shut down Shanghai for several weeks. That created a demand.supply mismatch in a very tight market. When the Chinese responded by loading and shipping things as fast as possible the West coast ports in the US failed to adapt – with shipping building up outside the ports. Most pacific container ships could not go through the panama canal to the gulf and east coast where there was additional capacity.
Stupid new rules by California reduced truck shipments out of the Port of LA. And the Biden admin caved to unions that refused to ramp up port operations to accommodate the backlog.
“and the record high deficit”
That would be Biden. Current deficit is 1.7T. Trump 2019 Deficit was 0.95T.
The media deficit under Trump was LOWER than the media under Obama and Biden’s media is the highest ever.
“due to tax breaks for the wealthy?”
nope. Revenue went up.
The US has a spending problem – not a tax problem.
“Only you Trump fans overlook these facts when you claim that things were better under Trump. ”
Aparently 80% of the country is trump fans.
“The first part of his fake presidency, the economy was good–all due to left overs from Obama and his successful turn around of the mess Bush left him with.”
Nope – the 2008 recession was caused by the Fed keeping interest rates too low for too long.
This is the cause of most economic bubbles.
Regardless the FED data shows the US headed into recession in 2016. This reversed the moment Trump was elected.
This garbage of your is refuted so many ways.
Growth under Bush was 2%.
Growth under Obama was 1.48%
Growth Trump’s first 3 years was 2.3% amnd growth for all 4 years – including covid was still 2%.
2.3% growth – sucks. But not as bad as under Obama or Bush.
The Bush F#$Ked it up, Obama fixed it and Trump coasted nararitive is blatantly false as can be told by ANY graph of economic growth.
“Trump is the one who brought about all of the economic carnage Biden fixed.”
Real income rose 3500/yr under Trump it has declined 4500/yr under Biden
If that is your idea of fixed – please STOP fixing things.
“And what has Trump DONE that you credit him with?”
Trump has actually done all the things you credit Biden and Obama with.
Whether you like it or not the DATA does not even come close to supporting your claims.
“The only legislative accomplishment was the tax breaks”
Excellent – we need lower taxes, and less laws.
“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”
― Gideon J. Tucker
“that resulted in a record for the deficit.”
The Trump tax cut passed in late 2017, the 2018 and 2019 deficits were lower than the mean Oabama deficit, just about half the current Biden deficit.
” He tried to do away with Obamacare–but failed. ”
Unfortunately. As noted above – the US death reat hit its LOW in 2009 and has bee increasing since.
Obama care caused massive cons=olidation in healthcare – putting small and medium practices out of business,
Cased increases int he price of health care, caused increases in the price of health insurance.
And cost us $2T or more every decade – and the claim that it saved lived or improved health is not merely a lie – but things actually got worse.
Obama care was a useless waste of money.
“He was an international embarrassment–other countries mocked him with Baby Trump balloons and Trump on the Toilet balloons.”
I do not care what you beleive. I do not care what protestors in left wing countries beleived. Honestly I do not care what foreign leaders beleived. Though I would note that the evidence is that foreign leaders are “embarrassed” by our geriatric president.
US foreign policy must be conducted based on the interests of the US.
That is likely to piss off the world. But it is in OUR interests – and that of the world.
Are you really trying to argue that the world is better off under Biden ?
LOOK ARROUND – Biden has been the worst president for the world in US history.
It took Bush 8 years to create the mess than Biden has done in 3.
” He insulted veterans by calling them “suckers and losers”, and wouldn’t attend a ceremony at a cemetery in France because the drizzle would deflate his pompadour.”
Left wing nut hoax alert.
“He praised white supremacists by calling them “fine people””
Left wing nut hoax alert.
Lies about what someone said have NOTHING to do with what they DID.
The big lie is that the tax breaks were for the wealthy. 86% of taxpayers got a tax cut and the bulk of it went to the middle class
Per the CBO, tax revenues are expected to exceed the last projection prior to the tax cuts taking effect, meaning there was no loss of revenue
Also, there were more covid deaths under Biden than Trump, even though Biden campaigned on the claim he had a plan to end covid
Gigi,
The betting odds on Trump/Biden are currently 2:1 in favor of Trump.
It is highly likely that come Jan 2025 we will see President Trump sworn in as the 47th president of the United States.
How much do you wish to bet that:
The only violence we will see will be from the left.
That there will be a Russia Ukraine peace deal within a few months that nobody likes but that ends the slaughter.
That the war in Gaza will come to an end.
That the mess at the border will return over the course of a year to 2019 levels.
That we will see a real economic recovery – though there will likely be a mild recession first.
That we will see 4 years of a stable economy.
That we will see the deportation of illegal immigrants that commit crimes.
That we will be able to buy dishwashers that wash dishes,
and gas stoves.
That in as many ways as possible the federal government will be thwarted from interfering in our daily lives.
That left wing nuts like yourself and the MSM will be daily telling us of some egregious thing that Trump allegedly said.
I now firmly believe that you are delusional. The “Left” weren’t the ones who attacked the Capitol based on the lie of a losing candidate. It’s easy to get a “peace deal” if you cut off aid to Ukraine to try to force it to let Russia have it’s way–why should this happen? Russia won’t stop with Ukraine, either–Putin has already said he wants the Baltic countries and Poland. Trump can’t end the war in Gaza—nobody respects him–they know he’s a blowhard, bluffing loser, even if you don’t. The “mess at the border” would be well on its way to getting solved if Trump hadn’t interfered with the bipartisan bill by demanding that Republicans reject it. Biden needs more judges, more agents and more resources. Trump CAUSED the inflation and worst recession since the Great Depression–BIDEN fixed it. We did NOT have a “stable economy” under Trump–he can’t even handle his own personal fianances–Trump caused the worst recession since the Great Depression. BIDEN already deports migrants who are criminals and who commit crimes. The federal government does not “thwart” “our daily lives”–maybe you’d prefer Thalidomide babies being born without arms and legs, or babies with their heads crushed by unsafe cribs with slats too far apart, or defective vaccines for polio that cause the disease, or exploding gas tanks in rear-end collisions, or maybe women with permanent nerve damage in their legs from bladder slings that weren’t properly tested, or drugs are aren’t safe or effective, or cars that catch on fire because of faulty wiring, or airplane doors that blow off because they weren’t bolted. Our government protects us against these threats. You really have to be blind not to see reality.
Thalidomide? Trump caused that, I suppose. Presumably when he was King of England.
“Putin has already said he wants the Baltic countries and Poland.”
Where and when has Putin said this?
“Trump…nobody respects him–they know he’s a blowhard, bluffing loser, even if you don’t.”
Au contraire, Gigi. The world is laughing at and mocking Biden. Zero respect.
By contrast, they have respect, regardless of whether they share his politics, for Trump’s resilience and determination to stand up for what he believes, and take the incoming forces, that literally no one else could have withstood. He just secured the GOP nomination for president — the most historical political comeback anyone alive today has ever witnessed. That is what the world sees.
“Trump can’t end the war in Gaza”
Silly girl, Giggly, neither Trump nor Biden can end the war in Gaza. Only Israel can, by ending Hamas militarily (total destruction) and convincing the people of Gaza that their leaders have led them to Hell.
Trump or Biden Can end the war in Gaza – by Getting out of Israel’s way.
George pattons troops had high death rates in combat. Buit they moved faster, and though more people died over a shorter period of time overall FEWER of his troops died.
“There is no substitute for victory.”
Douglas MacArthur
“There is no substitute for victory.” __Douglas MacArthur
In Israel’s case, loss means death and dismemberment. That knowledge is ever present, but what people seem to forget is that not only will the Jews die, but so will the Christians. We hear no mention of Christian deaths, but they are being killed all the time. Does anyone remember when Lebanon was a Christian nation? One hundred years ago, the Middle East was 20% Christian; now, it is around 5%. But, it is not just the Christians and Jews. Does anyone remember the genocide of the Yazidis in 2014 or that the Muslim Brotherhood killed Anwar Sadat? The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization in many countries where they reside. Who is part of the Mulsim Brotherhood? Hamas and other terrorists. There is no end to this killing, for if everyone were to disappear except Sunnis and Shia, we would likely see a war between the two.
There is no substitute for victory. The world’s fate depends on Israel destroying the terrorists so they can never rise again. Biden and the West are feeding the hands that wish to kill them.
No sooner than I post my comment, and an interesting MEMRI article ends in my email. Why must Israel decisively win? Because what this Islamic scholar believes is the predominant thought in the region.
“Michigan Islamic Scholar Ahmad Musa Jibril: There Can Be No Permanent Peace Treaty With Jews, Infidels Because It Cancels Out Jihad; When Muslims Get Stronger, The Treaty Is Over”
“He said that the Prophet Muhammad “dismissed” the treaty of Hudaybiyyah, once it was merely rumored that the Jewish tribe had killed one of his Companions. Jibril continued: “It was a war until the death of every last one of them.”
https://www.memri.org/tv/michigan-islamic-scholar-ahmad-musa-jibril-peace-treaties-jews-not-permanent-infidels-muslims
MEMRI is a vital source. It translates what is said by the extremists and political leaders when they return home and say things differently than reported in the MSM.
” The “Left” weren’t the ones who attacked the Capitol”
And yet they have – many times.
“It’s easy to get a “peace deal””
Yes, it is .
So why hasn’t Biden gotten one ?
Absent the US, NATO or European countries putting boots on the ground in Ukraine,
A peace deal is the ONLY way Ukraine holds on to the parts of the country it currently controlls.
Ukraine and Russia are in a war of atrician. ukrain is killing about 3-4 russians for every ukrainian lost.
That is not enough – at that rate Ukraine will eventually collapse. It will take a while but it is inevitable.
The promised triumph of western technology and money was attempted and it failed.
While there is a huge technical advantage to Ukraine in this war. It is NOT sufficient to win the war.
I wish I was wrong. But I am not.
You have three choices –
Send US or EU troops top ukraine to fight and die in large numbers, that also increases the risk of global nuclear war.
Allow Ukraine to lose a slow bloody war of attrican.
Strike a peace deal that no one will like.
There is not some other magical choice.
“Russia won’t stop with Ukraine”
And yet they DID – under Trump. Russia has attacked a neighbor under every US president since Reagan – EXCEPT Trump.
Proof that Russia CAN be made to stop.
Regardless of course Russia will stop.
Ukraine may loose a war of Atrician to Russia – but they have proven that Russia is weak.
Russia is not capable of defeating any EU country with functional airpower.
They are not capable of deating any two consequential EU nations..
“Putin has already said he wants the Baltic countries and Poland.”
Again – no one trusts left wing nut claims.
Regardless Poland and the Baltics are part of NATO and attacking NATO would be suicide.
Frankly just attacking Poland would be suicide.
Poland is a far more formidable military power than Ukraine.
Finally – Russia will win a war of atrican against Ukraine.
It will also come out of it dramatically weakened – it already is.
“Trump can’t end the war in Gaza”
Actually that is pretty trivial
GET OUT OF ISRAELS way – the war will be over quickly.
Frankly the war will likely be over before November – even with Biden in the way.
“nobody respects him”
Which is Why Trump pulled off the biggest mideast peace deal EVER, and the only one since Carter.
I do not know whether anyone respects him. I do know that not only did he write “the art of the deal”.
But he demonstrated it as president.
He accomplished a substantial part of what he wanted against impossible odds dealing with people you claim hated and did not respect him.
“The “mess at the border” ”
Would not exist if Biden was not president.
Sorry Gigi – YOU own this. And you do not get to blame republicans for refusing to give you more money to NOT solve a problem that you created and do not need more money to solve.;
You want to negotiate new immigration laws – OBEY the existing ones.
Regardless, this is YOUR stinking pile of dog pooh.
“Biden needs more judges, more agents and more resources.”
Nope.
“Trump CAUSED the inflation”
Nope
“worst recession since the Great Depression”
False – we DID have the worst single qtr drop in GDP – when we locked down the country – the entire world experienced that.
We also had the largest singel qtr increase in GDP the very next qtr.
Everything was “fixed” before Trump left office.
That is litterally what the data showed.
Average Growth under Trump INCLUDING 2020 exceeded that of Obama by 1/2 pct/yr.
Inflation under Trump was under 2%. it is currently about 3.4%.
“We did NOT have a “stable economy” under Trump”
That is what the data show. That is the perception of most americans.
They are both correct.
“he can’t even handle his own personal fianances”
When your net worth is 2.6B – then you can talk.
“Trump caused the worst recession since the Great Depression.”
Saying it twice does not make it true.
I am not interested in addressing the garbage you claim regarding illegal immigration.
YOU broke it. No one wants to hear patently stupid claims to the country.
US rates of violent crime have increased dramatically under Biden.
You want to claim that is not illegal immigrants ?
Fine – it is still your fault – FIX IT.
“The federal government does not “thwart” “our daily lives””
Under the left that is EXACTLY what it does.
You want to control our dishwashers our stoves our cars.
“maybe you’d prefer Thalidomide babies being born without arms and legs”
Thalidomide was a problem in the most socialist, most regulated country in the world at the time.
I would further note that Thalidomide was LESS of a problem than any two weeks of Covid deaths under Biden for the first 24 months.
” or babies with their heads crushed by unsafe cribs with slats too far apart”
Yes, actually – I would prefer a free market – where problems actually get solved quickly by the free market rather than a state that just screws things up.
Can you cite a single regulation EVER that actually altered a statistical trend ?
i.e. that has STATISTICAL evidence that it worked ?
The answer is NO – there is none.
The human condition has been improving for 300,000 years.
it has been improving RAPIDLY since the explosion of free markets.
I can statistically PROVE that throughout the past 500 years – that more freedom meant better safer lives.
You can not do the same for a SINGLE regulation.
BTW my Grandfather made baby Cribs – there was no epidemic of kids getting their heads crushed.
As with everything in the free market – as freedom increased – infant mortality decreased.
Had NOTHING to do with regulations or crib slats.
With respect to your hosts of anecdotal garbage – I can match you death for death CAUSED by regulation
Our LEFT WING NUT mishandling of Covid alone has resulted in ore deaths than you think you saved by every regulation EVER.
Estimates are that the Covid lockdowns will result in about 3M more cancer deaths over the next decade – just because of treatment delays in 2020 alone.
We are already seeing spikes in excess deaths throughout the world. We are seeing rises in cardiac deaths.
Covid and Biden’s abysmal border policies have doubled the number of drug overdoses.
Anxiety and depression caused by lockdowns caused suicides to radically increase.
You rant about vaccines – the Covid Vaccine has the worst safety profile – by several orders of magnitude than any vaccine ever.
The Covid vaccine is proving to be a massive boondoggle that is myriads of ways made things far worse not better.
It is NOT the polio vaccine or the smallpox vaccine. It is probable – that like Aides covid is a virus that we can not make a vaccine work against. Regardless it was poorly designed.
YOU said that our regulators were there to protect us fron just that – but that is not what happened.
The very people YOU claim are suppoosed to protect us – are the ones lying to us above covid about the vaccine.
The left attacked multiple federal an state buildings based on the “hands up don’t shoot” lie, which caused far more damage
Gigi, I finally listened to a video of Trump. Sopmething I rarely do.
I know you left wing nuts thing the rest of the world is mezmerized by Trump hanging on his every word – when we are not zombified by Fox.
But in fact I pretty much only listen to Trump – when those of you on the left make a claim that he said something and I wish to establish whether you are lying.
Nor do I particularly follow Fox. My sources are primary sources first – information agregators, public records,
After that I rely on independnet media – substack, Taibbi, Greenwald – people like Turley.
The overwhelming majority of these are diseffected liberals.
Regardless, anyone who listens to the actual statement in context, understand that What Trump is refering to is that if He is not elected – Biden is not going to be able to deal with the surge of sino-mexican cars, and the US auto industry will experience a “bloodbath”.
There is absolutely no honest way to interpet his remarks as being about anything but CARS.
“I have long stated that the charges against Trump over documents at Mar-a-Lago are strong and based on established precedent.” What predecent? Does anyone know to which precedent Turley is referring? Are Article 2 and JW vs NARA no longer the controlling precedent? If not, what is?
And Biden, after having instructed his staff to move classified documents hither, thither, and yon while trying to evade justice while his administration was preparing to raid Mar-A-Lago where documents were kept locked up and under the guard of Secret Service, had the gall to give raises to all of the staff members who helped him move those documents all over creation. This smacks of collusion. He’s bribing them, but for what?
Go a step above Biden and Trump. How is it that NARA knew of missing documents and requested their return–within the first year of Trump leaving office,–but for years, even decades, didn’t know of or request return of all those documents taken by Biden???? How long did it take Mom and Pop to realize they left Macaulay Culkin behind in “Home Alone?”
” first year of Trump leaving office,–but for years, even decades, didn’t know of or request return of all those documents taken by Biden???? “
Lin, that hits the nail on the head. We have been taken over by fascists and the rule of law is eroding away.
Read Hur – by every measure Biden’s conduct was worse.
Further every claim that Biden did something better than trump is FALSE.
It is all just spin.
John, that the left cannot admit Biden’s crimes over 50 years are crimes shows the left has no honesty. I still don’t see that Trump carries any guilt about the files at Mar a Lago. There were no court cases on the subject that made his actions criminal, and based on earlier Presidential disputes, Trump was in the right. The government was wrong because they refused to use the court systems appropriately and raided Mar a Lago based on national security issues that did not exist. National security exists in the Biden cases where a raid should have occurred.
Even today, the stupid wish to say Biden was exonerated. That type of ignorance belongs in the idiot group. They are so clueless that despite the effort, they are incapable of climbing out of the idiot group and joining with the imbeciles.
NARA knew of the missing documents because they probably had an accounting of what they were supposed to have.
In Biden’s case his documents issue is largely related to the time he was a senator which isn’t bound by the presidential records act. Congressmen and senators don’t get as much scrutiny as presidents and the fact that the PRA requires NARA retain custody of presidential records at the end of a term.
I clerked for the Fed (law) and had a security clearance. I do know just a little about the subject, -and the PRA, and Congressmen , and senators. Thanks anyway.
I regret that my sarcastic commentary went right over your head. But that’s okay, your first sentence is the incriminating one. Thank you for fleshing that out for me.
Lin,
Ahhh! Always a joy to watch our leftist anaonymoron, try to play lawyer and then get epic take downs by real lawyers like yourself and several others here on the good professor’s blog.
Well said and well done!
Hello Upstate. Thanks. Apparently our friend above does not realize that NARA’s purview goes beyond the President and PRA, to include legislative and judicial records, i.e., records from all three branches.
From the Mouth of the Horse itself:
(Under Section “Missing or Stolen Documents”)
“Occasionally, a document in private hands actually belongs in government archives. If it is a federal, congressional, or presidential record, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) may be interested in recovering the document.” https://www.archives.gov/faqs
Admittedly, the scope of administrative control and tracking, notwithstanding that which is delegated to agencies, has gotten much more overwhelming over the years.
Hope you enjoyed your creative St. Patrick’s meal.
Moreover, I assume you might know that the documents in question related to Biden’s time as vice-president–not as senator.
“2022
“Nov. 2 — While packing files in preparation for vacating office space used by the former vice president at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington, D.C., personal attorneys for Biden come across “what appear to be Obama-Biden Administration records, including a small number of documents with classified markings,” according to a Jan. 9, 2023, statement released by Richard Sauber, special counsel to Biden…The White House Counsel’s Office notifies the National Archives, which takes possession of the documents the following morning. The discovery comes six days before the midterm elections, but would not be made public for more than two months.”
“Nov. 4 — The National Archives Office of Inspector General contacts a prosecutor at the Department of Justice and informs him about the documents — which bear classified markings and are now secured in a National Archives facility. The office of the Penn Biden Center ‘was not authorized for storage of classified documents.’ ”
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/timeline-of-bidens-classified-documents/
(addressed to Anonymous^^^)
The problem is that the documents were “discovered” 18months prior to the election – according to the Hur report.
Even the News has been reporting that the discovery was in march 2022, not nov 2022.
No one outside of the WH was notified for many months after these docs were found.
“NARA knew of the missing documents because they probably had an accounting of what they were supposed to have.”:
No, NARA has a relatively minor role in classified documents – usually not starting until agencies turn those documents over to NARA – which often takes years. decades
Tracking classified documents is the responsibility of the security personael in the executive branch department that created the documents.
The presidential record act is NOT about classified documents, it is NOT about government records generally – it is about White House Records. There is about Zero chance that the documents Biden absconded with as Senator were Whitehouse documents.
Prior to the PRA these were indisputably the property of the president.
the PRA does not address – and therefore does not change OWNERSHIP of WH documents. It allows the president to unburden himself of the cost and responsibility for caring for the records of his presidency by allowing the president to give custody of them to NARA. Custody is NOT ownership. As we are starting to see from FL (and from Hur and Biden’s attorney’s).
There is signicaly caselaw and a long history of FOJ/OLC positions – that the PRA does NOT allow NARA to TAKE custody of presidential records, it allows the president to GIVE NARA custody.
Chenney v Crew and JW v NARA and a variety of other cases all copnclude that NARA has absolutely no power to take custody of presidential records. It can not subpeona them,it can not go to court to get them – and it NEVER has. because it has no RIGHT to them. It does not own them and it was not even given the power to TAKE custody of them.
I have said this many times before. But now we are learning that DOJ/OLC have said that dozens of times over 40+ years.
“the fact that the PRA requires NARA retain custody of presidential records at the end of a term.”
False – so says several cases as well as dozen’s of DOJ/OLC opinions.
The PRA allows the president to GIVE custody of records to NARA. The PRA would be unconstitutional if it allowed NARA to TAKE custody of records.
Congressmen, get MORE scrutiny. The president gets NONE. The president can not violate the espionage act, and can not be subject to the PRA – so says JW V NARA, CREW V CHENNEY and numerous DOJ/OLC opinions.
I would note that SC Smith conceded that the president can not violate the espionage act (or the PRA).
Smith has admitted that Trump caused the records to be trasfered to MAL while president and that transfer was legal.
Smith’s theory is that on Jan 21, 2021, that the mere ending of Trump’s presidency made the posesion of those documents a crime.
Smith also argues – trying to fit into the Biden stupid claim, that Had Trump given those documents to most anyone in government – even unauthorized people such as republican congressmen that the crime would magically vaporize.
That is not how criminal law works.
A crime is an act.
The passage of time without any action can not make you a criminal.
Further once you have committed a crime – While you can mitigate punishment, you can not undo the crime.
John Say: You correctly state that NARA has no authority to “TAKE” the documents. When made aware of missing/stolen documents, NARA then REQUESTS their return, and if resisted or denied, it generally turns the issue over to DOJ or any agency’s own classified document administrator (as well as specific congressional committees) (They did not have SBU and SSI classifications when I had my clearance.)
Irrespective of whose responsibility it was to track records, it is clear that Biden would have known their classification status when he had them, and was not “senile,” “demented,” or otherwise impaired at that/those times.
I further and importantly add that the above “anonymous” failed to know or mention that the PRA covers vice-presidential records as well. Thanks for your addition.
Whenever someone says ‘But Biden cooperated’, you can remind them that he had illegal documents for many years. That he and his people knew he had, and didn’t step up at the time to hand them over. They had many years to go through his stuff and remove incriminating evidence. That there was still so much to find seems to show there was very likely a lot more to the story than he’s admitting to. There are people who went to jail for having only one document they weren’t allowed by law to have. Biden had, well, who knows the real amount. Enough to have been prosecuted, if the justice system was being used fairly/properly.
I beleive there is a list of the numbers of documents found with Biden with subtotals for each level of classification.
Someone else compared those numbers and they were very very close tot he numbers for Trump.
They were also two orders of magnitude lower than Hillary.
Whoaaa boy, looking forward to Gigi, Dennis McIntyre and Anomalous when they read this one…..
OK, to the point:
Remember when Trump was shot in the mouth (by the left-wing) for saying that there were “good people on both sides?” I regret that he was criticized for his truthfulness.
That said, I join him in believing there are many good people on both sides of political ideology. The selective prosecutions of those whose political ideas challenge the controlling party (or ideology) is indeed a danger to all.
But we must ask ourselves, why are certain persons/parties so interested in taking other certain persons/parties down?
Do we really believe that it is specious and admirable “human virtue” that compels DEI and Open Borders and redistribution of wealth (and, as fellow commenter Sam notes,’mob rule’ (disguised as ‘democracy at work’) –or merely the means/pawns to a different, ultimate objective? I smell mendacity.
OT,
“Greatness comes from character and character isn’t formed out of smart people – it’s formed out of people who suffered,” said Jensen Huang, founder/CEO of Nvidia, speaking before a crowd of Stanford University students.
“I was fortunate that I grew up with my parents providing a condition for us to be successful on the one hand, but there were plenty of opportunities for setbacks and suffering.”
“I don’t know how to do it for all of you Stanford students, but I wish upon you ample doses of pain and suffering.”
That right there.
Our young people, have no character as they have never truly had to experience real pain and suffering. They think they are experiencing pain and suffering from words. They have never had to feel the pain and suffering of real failure. They have been sheltered from it all their lives and now when something that makes them uncomfortable, or they have to actually do real work, they run for their safe space.
And we are to blame for it.
We have a saying the Marines, “Pain is weakness leaving the body.”
“Pain is weakness leaving the body.”
I wish. But I am 70 now, and pain is an unwanted visitor who has come to stay, and invited his friends. My hand hurt so darn much, it woke me up at 4:30 this morning. And I still have to go clean the big cat pan.
But, Huang is right, not that the snowflakes at Stanford will understand it. I saw this, this morning on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XMd6eX0uhPw
I just finished masters of the air on apple.
It was a great series.
It mostly just reminded me of what I had already known.
Regardless, a generation of americans stepped FORWARD KNOWING they faced high probabilities of death or serious injury
Whether in the bloody 10th or landing at Iwo Jima.
The children of today would call this generation racist, homophobic sexist, misogynist evil.
And that was true. The also earned the appellation “the greatest generation”.
At the same time – the only real difference between them and their peers today – is they were called upon, and said yes.
I honestly beleive that the young today would do the same.
Mr. Huang is correct, we are not born great or moral. We become it when we are called on and respond.
The same people who become heros, can also become despots if they are not given hard choices to make.
you state “but it has become increasingly difficult to deny the obvious selective prosecution in a variety of recent cases and opinions.” Should you have said “there is no denying the….”
“I have long resisted such claims, but it has become increasingly difficult to deny the obvious as selective prosecution in a variety of recent cases and opinions.”
Professor, better late than never. However, this is the way the left works and the Democrats work today. One needs to be careful.
Are you allergic to the stench of radical liberals?
Then avoid disappointment and regret. And get this amassing product today!
Ya think!?!?!? With CNN giving the likes of the already debased Adam Schiff, and the many others of his ilk, a platform upon which to pontificate, one wonders if a growing support for a moral high ground truly exists.
Turley apparently now calls Robert Hur politically biased even though Hur’s final report specifically addressed the vast material distinctions between Trump & Biden’s handling of classified documents. Hur described how the Trump indictment extensively detailed how Trump “not only refused to return the documents for many months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about it..”
Robert Hur: “Several material distinctions between Mr. Trump’s case and Mr. Biden’s are clear. Unlike the evidence involving Mr. Biden, the allegations set forth in the indictment of Mr. Trump, if proven, would present serious aggravating facts. Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite. According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about it. In contrast, Mr. Biden turned in classified documents to the National Archives and the Department of Justice, consented to the search of multiple locations including his homes, sat for a voluntary interview, and in other ways cooperated with the investigation.”
It’s rather comical to hear Fox News contributor Turley rhapsodizing about the powerful odor of mendacity, while defending Trump for obstructing justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence & then to lie about it.
Turley has made it very clear that Trump is above the law, BUT..BUT…Hunter
Remind us, what did Biden’s ghostwriter do?
Fishstick, if Trump is above the law, then why did leftist Democrats have to go so far, go outside the norms and rule of law to prosecute him with made up lawsuits?
Just like the good professor points out.
Go back and re-read the column with a degree of objectivity. Put your cult like TDS aside for a moment and join the rest of us in reality.
If the retention of the documents was not a basts for prosecution, why did the FBI ever get involved?
@Edwardmahl –
” why did the FBI ever get involved? ”
Voila! and there you have it: Hillary Strikes Again!
𝐀𝐟𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐌𝐚𝐫-𝐚-𝐋𝐚𝐠𝐨 𝐒𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡, 𝐅𝐁𝐈 𝐀𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐖𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝, “𝐀𝐦 𝐈 𝐃𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐠?”
New FOIA documents reveal raw hostility inside FBI after Trump search
By: Jason Leopold ~ March 15, 2024
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-03-15/trump-documents-raid-at-mar-a-lago-sparked-protest-from-fbi-employees
What is interesting is that the 𝐑𝐚𝐢𝐝 𝐮𝐩𝐨𝐧 𝐌𝐚𝐫-𝐀-𝐋𝐨𝐠𝐨 𝐨𝐧 𝐀𝐮𝐠./𝟎𝟖/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟐,
was follwed by federal Judge Donald Middlebrooks dissmissel of Trump vs. Clinton et.al. 𝐨𝐧 𝐒𝐞𝐩./𝟎𝟖/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟐 𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐡 𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫:
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
CASE NO. 22-CV-14102-MIDDLEBROOKS
[Link] storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157.267.0_1.pdf
𝐉𝐮𝐝𝐠𝐞 𝐝𝐢𝐬𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐞𝐬 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩’𝐬 𝐥𝐚𝐰𝐬𝐮𝐢𝐭 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬𝐭 𝐂𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐚𝐬 ‘𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥 𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐟𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐨’
What the suit “lacks in substance and legal support it seeks to substitute with length, hyperbole, and the settling of scores and grievances,” federal Judge Donald Middlebrooks said.
By: Dareh Gregorian ~ Sept. 9, 2022
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-dismisses-trumps-lawsuit-clinton-others-political-manifesto-rcna47034
“… “What’s that smell in this room? …Didn’t you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room? There ain’t nothin’ more powerful than the odor of mendacity.” …”
Ahhhhh the aroma of Selective Prosecution – How sweet it is! …
WAIT-A-MINUTE, SO What Happened !?!
Trump files a a Suit against Clinton et.al. (CASE NO. 22-CV-14102-MIDDLEBROOKS), and She et.al retaliated with a Raid on Mar-A-Logo, then proceeded to Selectively Prosecute Trump to the end of his days.
We’ll not yet -𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟒 🇺🇸 –
Thanks for the link to Bloomberg. It’s reassuring to see that levelheaded people still work at the FBI.
He is NOT claiming that Trump’s Obstruction of Justice was the same as Biden’s.
He IS asserting that the mishandling of Classified Information was comparable.
not only refused to return the documents for many months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about it..”
those are accusations. Assumes the PRA does not apply
The larger point. NEVER has a President been ordered to turn over papers.
As the SC conceeded in FL – Never has NARA, DOJ, FBI, … even SOUGHT posession of documents.
There are a number of cases that ex-presidents have LOST – every single one is for ACCESS to an expresidents documents – not possession.
The quick highlights of that hearing are:
The president is NOT covered by the espionage act – if he was it would be unconstitutional.
The SC ceded that the documents were transfered to MAL at Trump’s direction LEGALLY.
The SC’s theory is that the moment Biden was sworn in and Trump was no longer president at that instant the mere passage of time made possession into a crime.
Also revealed was there is NO history to support Smith’s indictment.
There is LOTS of history DOJ/OLC opinions court decisions to support Trump’s argument that the docs are his property.
You conflate a small part of Hur’s report which did NOT say what you claim – with Hur replys to questions where Hur made clear he did NOT investigate Trump, and could not speak authoritatively about Trump.
If as the SC investigating the Biden case Hur said anything of substance about the Trump case or did comparisons – that would be unethical – it is NOT his case. I beleive Hur is quite ethical.
You are reading far to much into the very little that Hur has said regarding Trump – all of which he has been clear is not based on actual knowledge of the Trump matter.
“defending Trump for obstructing justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence & then to lie about it.”
We have very few claims of that and no real evidence.
Hur was assigned to investigate Biden, not Trump and there was zero reason for him to even bring up Trump, other than deflection
100% spot on. Unfortunately, your message is being actively filtered out of the public discourse by those on the left dumping more garbage on the stench-pile. Even now, they throw verbal garbage and grenades into the discourse, duplicate and amplify their divisive messaging, while filtering out (of all public discourse) all messages of reason, rationality, thoughtful collaboration or unity, with Big Tech in their pocket and 100% complicit in both approaches. Your message is 100% correct and proper, vitally needed to tip the scales of “public perception” back toward reality and objectivity. However, it is effectively stopped at the souce, filtered OUT, not retransmitted anywhere, while their messaging is retransmitted and unendingly amplified, multiplied, pumped out everywhere, soon to make the entire planet unbearably putrescent.
It all reminds me of Godzilla. It’s not just an odor of mendacity. It’s a one hundred foot tall skunk lumbering across the land to spread its spray on our Constitutional application of the law. The Lawfare lawyers against conservatives have come to love the stench on their three piece suits. They roll in it because that’s where the money is. Of course they tithe ten percent of the money tainted by the stench to the Democratic Party. Odor of Mendacity doesn’t even begin to describe it.
Power and Money. Two words that quite literally explain everything said or done in government, or in support of government.
The best example that comes immediately to mind on how to use those two words as a translation device, is when you hear threat to our democracy. Translation:
threat to our power, or our money, or our power and money.
Works every time.
We can further translate the word Democracy into the #1 citation for what that word means: 1. a : government by the people, especially : rule of the majority.
Finally, Dr Turley, you have seen the light but maybe too late.
Today SCOTUS hears a case. It may be one of the most important cases SCOTUS considers this year where a Federal Judge ruled that Biden’s Government (Deep State, DOJ, FBI, MSM) violated the 1A, and was upheld unanimously by an appellate court. Biden’s disregard for the US Constitution re: COVID, arguably caused more deaths and injury on Americans because of his government’s spread of
disinformationLIES. No wonder no one is reporting on it since it is implicates MSM in the most nefarious light.Biden’s lies re: COVID make the Feds handling of Tuskegee Syphilis fiasco look insignificant.
America may never recover from the harm the Feds unleashed on Americans c. 2020-2023.
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The US supreme court will hear this important 1st amendment case tomorrow 3/18. Plaintiffs against the federal government are @AGAndrewBailey, @AGLizMurrill, @DrJBhattacharya, @AaronKheriatyMD, @jimhoft_, Jill Hines and yours truly, represented by @JeninYounesEsq @NCLAlegal.
https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1769428137522106599
FBI and White House likely coerced social media platforms into removing posts, appeals court rules
CNBC
Sept 11, 2023
Estovir,
Matt Taibbi wrote a great article about a recent NYT hit piece.
On Today’s Absurd New York Times Hit Piece
“Correcting the record after a desperate slam job on the Twitter Files, published just before oral arguments in a historic First Amendment case in the Supreme Court”
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