I will confess that there are at times a level of contempt expressed in my columns. However, today will be the first time that a column becomes a legal matter for contempt. Among the ten postings by former president Donald Trump being raised by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg in his contempt sanction is the use of a quotation from one of my columns.
In a hearing on the gag order Tuesday morning, Judge Juan Merchan reserved any final decision.
On April 15, Trump quoted my New York Post column from the day before titled “A serial perjurer will try to prove an old misdemeanor against Trump in an embarrassment for the New York legal system.”
Trump posted the title while attaching a link.
There is an interesting aspect to this controversy that captures the problem with Judge Merchan’s gag order.
In addition to continually appearing on television to oppose Trump’s election and to discuss his testimony in this case, Cohen has also lashed out against critics and coverage, including my own columns. I have been a critic of Cohen since the time when he was still working as counsel for Trump. Cohen has continued to attack some of us with vulgar postings while posting mocking pictures and attacks on Trump, including running commentary on the trial.
In one posting, Cohen posted an insulting attack on myself and others who have raised questions about the Manhattan case while objecting that he is entitled to the protection of the gag order because he is a witness. Only Michael Cohen would portray himself in terms of a witness simply trying to share evidence of a crime.
Cohen has raised money on being the antagonist of Donald Trump. He has cultivated his professional wrestling style as a type of trash-talking, chair-throwing thug to liberal cable programs. Judge Merchan has allowed him to use the gag order to shield him from criticism as he heaps abuse on Trump both as a candidate and a defendant. That includes, like Trump, responding to these very columns, including my own, on the case.
I have previously criticized these gag orders on constitutional grounds.
And it goes on, announced today the Arizona State AG has entered the fray by going after Trump staffers. The questions (by some) asked at the SC regarding Presidential Immunity are ridiculous. The key witness in a bogus trial is an accused perjurer another witness owes the defendant $300k. The nation is in a tail spin and the pilot at the yoke is suicidal! The nation is now in the hands of God and remnants of sane Americans in November and I hope theres a God because sanity is very questionable.
The AZ case in an interesting one.
Its to pile on Trump… but its also going to backfire.
I thought most of the questions by both sides at the SC were pretty good. There were self evidence Biases.
I think that Trump’s lawyer conceded too much. But I also think he clearly has the wining argument regardless.
I am personally a giant fan of bright line rules. BTW the actual question is not “does the president have immunity”
The question is how is presidential immunity overcome. NO ONE – not the SC, not a single Justice argued there was no presidential immunity.
The right rule is “impeach, convict in the senate, and THEN try civilly” That is the standard Trump’s attorney argued for clearly presidential actions. But it should apply to ALL acts by presidents. It is the simplest rule. SOME justices though that was too high a bar.
What ? Reguiring 12 jurors to convict is reasonable by requiring 2/3 senators to remove is too hard ?
If the senate is too partisan – then so are the courts. There is no difference between the use of partisan political power to block impeachment and the use of partisan political power to push a bogus prosecution.
But that does not seem to be the way the court is leaning – and not even the way Trump’s attorney is leaning.
Listening to the arguments – SCOTUS is going to through out the DC appellate court decision – it is NOT workable.
They are going to buy some form of Trump’s attorney’s argument, but not likely all of it. Further though Trumps attorney was excellent he was arguing for a position that is NOT a bright line – when the best arguement though not one the court is comfortable with is that this is all addressed by impeachment and conviction.
I was disturbed by Sotomayor who seemed to think they were litterally sitting as a trail court trying to decide the Trump case – rather than as the Supreme court trying to decide the issue of presidential immunity.
I do not know exactly what they are going to do, but even Justice Jackson did not seem to accept the Special Counsels argument as the special counsel framed it. Nor did anyone like the DC appellate courts decision – Roberts practically openly mocked it, as well as the SC’s argument that the court should just Trust prosecutors.
The DC appelate court lost – that decision is with near certainty dead.
Nor is it likely that SCOTUS will accept the SC’s argument – that too appears to be dead – outside of possibly Sotomayor.
Trump’s attonery did NOT argue you must impeach and convict first. I am sorry that is the best argument. It provides clear bright lines, and if you can not get half the house and 2/3 of the senate you should not even be allowed near a grand jury or a petit jury.
I would also note the claim that the president is not different – did not fly. There are atleast 5 justices that are prepared to say that Article II of the constitution reserves some presidential actions as unrevieable by the courts. Which BTW is …. Marbury V. Madison.
We all want fair treat Jonathan, Cohen, Judge Merchan, yourself, Trump, Weinstock and ever other Tom, Dick, and Harry under the sun. What separates the chosen, the Christian faithful, from the chaff, is they are willing to treat others in the ways they themselves would like to be treated, fairly. Not demanding fairness for yourself and then crapping on everyone that comes their way in their personal lives. Are those who demand fairness for themselves without giving deserving? Time will tell.
Robert – I have seen no evidence that you treat others as you would like to be treated.
I am not entirely sure of your politics – and honestly do not care.
But I am not aware of anyone here who has posted such vile antisemtic hateful garbage as you have.
Whatever your politics – you shame those who share them.
You should pray fervently that there is some god other than the Christian God, because Christ has made clear his criteria for judgement,
and your in trouble if that is the god who judges you.
Christ was a jew, and anyone even slightly familiar with actual christine doctrine would know that we ALL killed christ through our sins and that hist Crucifixion was to pay for your sins.
The core of cristianity is the jewish aphorism “the suffering of the innocent redeems the world”.
I am a sinner, Christ killer. And tell me how you are better than me schmuck.
How was Christ a Jew? Jew have been breeding and producing children with their sisters and cousins for centuries. Such breeding characteristic create a commonality of traits and characteristics across a bloodline. Tell me the traits and characteristic Christ shares with your modern day run of the mill Christ killer? Are there any?
Are modern day Jews—
Cheerful givers
honest
self sacrificing
empathetic to pain and suffering of those less fortunate
Should I go on, you fzxcking Jew retard? You’ re a highfullutin Goddamned idiot, do you know that schmuck? And you are a sexual deviant and proud of taking it in the can, and a fzxcking mental patient. How many shrink have you done thru Christ killer, how many times have you tried to kill yourself and failed you worthless piece of crap? God forbid you could do anything right.
Therapy seems to be working, Robert. Keep up the good work.
Mental illness is a product of incestuous breeding practices. The Jews, your kind schmuck, have been breeding and producing children with their sisters and cousins for centuries, centuries kyke. It is a miracle you do you have two heads you fzcking Jew retard.
“How was Christ a Jew? “
Brownbug, we all know you are stupid, but after your question, we realize you are dumber than anyone imagined. Jesus Christ was born a Jew and died a Jew. He even had a Bar Mitzvah. Dumbas, there were no Christians around when Jesus lived. They came later.
Answer the question you fzxcking jew retard, how was Christ a Jew? What traits and personal characteristics are shared between Christ and yourself, was Christ an obnoxious idiot retard like yourself, was he schmuck? You think you are like him, you fzxcking Jew idiot? You could not be like him if you stood on your head you goddamned Jew idiot.
Robert, Jesus loves you, no matter what. Peace to you, brother. Good night.
Brownbug, your stupidity places you in the mud where all you can do is flail. Being born Jewish, Christ shared his religion with other Jews, and his Bar Mitzvah shows he lived the life of a Jew. When he died, there were no Christians. That you are an absolute idiot is seen in your words, whether foul or decent.
Keep talking so we can laugh at what you say, dumb, dumber and dumbest. You are trailing far behind the last of the dumbest.
Answer me you fzxcking jew retard.
This jerk thinks cursing represents intelligent thought.
@Robert
You are the embodiment of why I am grateful we have free speech. You are free to spew insane drivel, and we are free to correct you and then ignore you. You are not well, dude. Not even a little bit, not even as a troll. Probably the most deranged troll we’ve ever seen here. Gigi is going, ‘Whoah. Slow your roll.’.
You need to be Moshiached kyke, you need him like there is no tomorrow. Ans kyke I got news for you, you are love your Big Mo. He is going to be satisfying your anal longings to no end. You down right schmuck?
James you are going to love your Big Mo. He is an extremist. He is extremely large, extremely in charge, extremely girthy and extremely fond of you and your jumbo oversized rear end. You gotta be down, James.
Robert Browning — Read the Civility Code linked at the top of the page.
Follow that or be subject to banning here.
David right, you are Irish aren’t you? God forbid you would take the side of one of us? God forbid. tell me again you are just like us David, tell me again Christ killer? You are going to hell David, I am going to see to it, your kind hates innocent, and the world is going to know what kind of monsters you are. Mark my word Christ killer.
I am a hater kyke, I hate the blood of those who persecute and torment the weak and the innocent and I hate your fzxcking guts you Goddamned Christ killer. You don’t want to call me a racist hater kyke? Call me a racist hater, go ahead do it schmuck.
“I am a hater kyke, I hate the blood of those who persecute and torment the weak and the innocent “
Brownbug, you have already demonstrated your stupidity in not knowing who Jesus Christ was or when Christianity began. Keep up with your nonsense. We need idiots like you so that one can see from where these ideas arise.
“First, that Alvin Bragg’s office did not provide advanced notice of the precise allegations in order to enable former President Trump’s legal team to prepare an adequate defense,”
“Second, that the statutory code section cited by the lead prosecutor (New York Penal Code Section 17-152) prohibits a conspiracy ‘to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means …,’ but Bragg has still not divulged what those ‘unlawful means’ were.”
“And third, and most shockingly, that penal code section is a misdemeanor, which means that Alvin Bragg is claiming that committing a misdemeanor (making a false business entry) in order to conceal the commission of another misdemeanor (conspiring to promote someone’s candidacy in an unlawful manner) can – like magic – be converted into 34 felony offenses,”
— Former deputy assistant attorney general in the DOJ’s Criminal Division John Malcolm
“The misdemeanor statute of limitations is expired on this offense, just as it is expired on the underlying offense, raising a significant legal question about the propriety of this approach,”
“One of the biggest issues in this case is that the prosecution has essentially withheld this theory [election interference] until trial has started,”
“The defense has complained about this the entire time, but the judge has refused to require identification of the felony escalator at an earlier stage. This amounts to another form of ‘trial by fire,” which is not how the American criminal justice system is supposed to work.”
— Former federal prosecutor Andrew Cherkasky
@Upstate Farmer.
Yes there are a lot of legal holes.
This should have been dismissed long ago, out of the gate.
There are so many things wrong here.
Got to wonder how many constitutional violates we could find.
I mean do we make a single count for each of the 34 violations or the fact that Bragg withheld the actual charges ,
The fact that the judge is allowing this to move forward is the real sham.
The judge has a lot of leeway in the courtroom and knows that he’s going to be overruled on appeal. But the danger isn’t the end result, but the exercise.
At most the judge gets a slap on the wrist, if that. He knows that he’ll be judged by his peers who are for the most part liberals. And they are less likely to hold him or Engoron accountable for their rulings.
Bragg and company should be sued by Trump when this is done.
But even here. Nothing will happen to them. That has got to change.
-G
Be careful what you wish for Turley, bringing your name into the public only will expose you to what you have become. And the bet is, the first thing out of their writings or mouth is “FOXNEWS CONTRIBUTOR” and that is not a good look for any lawyer.
Fishstick, did you read the part where where the liked column was from the New York Post?
The good professor also writes for The Hill, and USA Today.
But the only thing you can focus on in your TDS little mind is “FOXNEWS!!”
Dear FishWing rots from the head down—-
Hating Fox News is so 1990’s. Feel free to join the rest of us here in the 21st Century. …and BTW, if you’d stop averting your gaze from the Fox channel, you would be delighted to find both sides of the news being discussed. That cannot be said of any other news network on television. …..Period.
So two out of four he works for Murdoch. Something to be proud of for sure, a company who lost a case in court for lying to it’s own viewers and readers. Turley once was a respected lawyer that was invited on any news cable, network news shows for years, any one of the Sunday news shows would have him on in a New York minute. Now he uses or makes FOXNEWS talking points to his MAGA cult base that can be lied to on any given topic, because fooling a Trump supporter has got to be the easiest job there is.
Fishstick, the good professor is still a highly respected Constitutional lawyer.
Only someone with a severe case of TDS could not see it.
He does not use anyone’s talking points but his own which is clear to see by all except those with a severe case of TDS.
The good professor has no MAGA base. He is appealing to all those with common sense, logic, rule of law, decency, the Constitution. That would exclude those with a severe case of TDS, which is plain to see.
@Upstate Farmer…
Sorry but you’ve gone too far….
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“The good professor has no MAGA base. He is appealing to all those with common sense, logic, rule of law, decency, the Constitution. That would exclude those with a severe case of TDS, which is plain to see.
”
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The good professor does have a MAGA base because he’s appealing to those w common sense…etc …
(too lazy to type out or cut n paste those talking points you raise)
The point is that Turley and Dershowitz are liberals yet support Trump in terms of the legal charges against him are an affront to the rule of law.
I know you were trying to point out that Turley isn’t MAGA but in reality, he is… even if he doesn’t know it.
Want to Make America Great Again?
It starts with the rule of law.
It starts with using common sense and to work thru problems rather than rely on rhetoric.
Not so different from what they want.
Old school ethics. None of this ‘win at all costs’ mentality.
Or maybe I’m missing something.
I’m an independent, but I do support the Orange Ooompa Loompah man. Because he’s someone who actually makes sense on the major issues.
-G
Nicely put
Ian,
I concede to your well made point.
Well played sir, well played.
@Upstate…
Uhm its actually your point. 😉
Just a slight twist as to the perspective …
Fishy – You mistakenly assume cable news shows and Sunday news shows are still respectable. They aren’t. UpChuck Todd ruined Meet The Press so badly that he was fired. CNN’s Toobin wasn’t even fired for flopping his fishy on a Zoom. Fox News has lost a lot of ground too, but it is still the most watched cable news channel for a reason. Try to keep up, Fishy. LOL.
Another example: This Week with Stephanopoulos is a joke. He’s a Democrat partisan activist, not even remotely a so-called ‘respected’ journalist. He ran the war room fighting off the bimbo eruptions for Clinton. He’s not even a little bit unbiased. Try to keep up, Fishy.
He dated his sister.
True story. He took his sister to her prom because she couldn’t get a date.
Now what is speculated is what happened at the after prom party is anyone’s guess.
Its not like she wrote about having to shower with him in her journal… that’s a different story.
Ruppert Murdock is not on the board or a member of the management suite.
And what you have become?
My reply was for FishWings
Cindy,
I was tracking you. All good! 🙂
Upstate…Thank you!
Fishy: Be careful whose legal opinions you listen to bc unzipping your pants to yank your doodle on a Zoom call in front of your female work colleagues will expose you to what you have become: CNN’s chief legal pervert — not even fired for it! Nope, the pervert is still on CNN giving his legal analysis. And that is not a good look for any lawyer — or the fake news channel that keeps him on the air is it, Fishy? Just LOL you are such a doofus.
Fishy — At least Turley only ‘brings his name out for public exposure.’ He leaves his fishy in his pants. You keep on listening to those legal analysts you find “respectable.” Like-minds flopping their fishies together. LOL
Thats right wingnut, threaten Turley.
Honestly I am surprised that you and your ilk have not already drug Turley before the bar.
Congrats professor!
You will go down in history as one of the few, sane Constitutional lawyers during this period of leftist lead Idiocracy!
Professor Turley,
Actions have consequences. If Trump may think it is “unfair” that he cannot publicly attack a witness, but this is the result of his long history of judge, witness and juror intimidation. Merchan previously admonished Trump for intimidating a juror in this case (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/04/16/trump-scolded-by-judge-merchan-for-muttering-and-intimidating-juror/?sh=491483094e95).
Trump also falsely accused Judge Merchan’s daughter of posting a photo depicting him behind bars and demanded the Judge’s recusal. (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/nyregion/trump-social-media-attack.html)
These are just two examples, of many. I see no problem with a very limited gag order given this long history. Without one, it is impossible to properly administer justice.
Anonymous – I checked your link to “juror intimidation” in the “fraud” case. He was accused by the judge of intimidating the witness by muttering to himself. There is no indication he was directing comments to the juror, or even what he muttered.
Todate there is no actual evidence of Trump criticising a single jurror anywhere – atleast not until after the case is over.
Actually intimidating jurors is a crime. If you Brag beleives he has done that – charge him with a crime.
Contra your claim – it is unclear whether Merchan’s daughter used Trump behind bars as here gravatar.
That IS the gravatar on the account in her name that is on twitter that dates back years.
But She claims she abandoned it a year ago and that someone else is using it now.
We do not know if that is true.
We do KNOW that it is true that she is a principle in a firm that is fundraising off the Trump prosecutions.
That she is more than a principle she is the director of communications for those efforts.
That is all perfectly legal, but it is also an insurmountable conflict of interest for Judge Merchan and requires him to recuse.
What are CALLED Trump’s attack’s on Merchan’s adult daughter are actually attacks on Merchan himself – and well deserved.
Gag orders are prior restraint of free speech – there is absolutely nothing that faces a higher constitutional bar than prior retraint of free speech.
The standard for prior restraint allows NO Balancing test.
Try reading the supreme court decision in the pentagon papers case.
The supreme court determined that even the possibility that the publication of the pentagon papers – which were illegally obtained, could cause the loss of the vietnam war – that still was not sufficient to justify prior restraint of speech.
There have been gag orders that have been upheld in the past. These either are on the prosecution, or all the laywers or they are instituted for the protection fo the DEFENDANTS right to a fair trial.
One of the things those on the left do not understand – there is no prosecutors rights. States do not have rights, they have powers.
Individuals have rights.
The defendant has the right to a speedy trial
The defendant has the right to be confronted by their accusers.
The defendant has the right to free speech.
These and many many more are the rights of defendants.
There are not mirroring rights for prosecutors.
Prosecutors can be “gagged” – they are not individuals, they are agents of the state. As agents of the state they have powers not rights.
If the prosecutor wishes to speak freely about a case he can resign as prosecutor and as a private person say what ever he wants.
Defendants can not do that.
Uh-Oh! Well thank Alvin Bragg for opening up this ‘Can-O-Worms’.
Wonder if we will hear from ‘The Stand’ testimony of; Frm. U.S. Attorney(s) Office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller and Other investigators , Guy Petrillo, and Lanny Davis (Bill Clinton’s ole Buddy). Maybe Hillary herself would like to comment on the WikiLeaks dump of DNC emails around the time of Cohen’s payments to Stormy Daniels (a.k.a.: Stephanie A. Gregory Clifford) or maybe Cohen’s wife, Laura Shusterman, a native of Ukraine would like to kibitz about a few things.
Now that your incorporated by the Gag litigation (Jonathan), perhaps you can take The Stand for the Defense and bring-to-light these underlying tid-bits that illuminate the motivations of both the Government (FBI, CIA, DNC, …) and the Trump Organization. I mean We have gone way beyond ‘He said – She said’ at this point. Clarification is demanded. … ‘It’ seems to me that a lot of People knew what was going on and are not talking about it – covering up that facts of what a disgraceful Cluster-F THEY created.
Hummmm – makes you wonder how deep the Defense and Prosecution really want to go down this road.
Making the Trip could very interesting.
The end of that road is when the principal is “Epsteined.”
It sure seems like there are no rules for Judge Merchan, the law and the constitution be damned. And he could care less as long as it keeps President Trump tied up in court.
Tied up indeed. Merchan declares this trial to be so important that the defendant must be in court there and not recessed for one day so that the former President could be in attendance to hear the significantly less important Supreme Court oral arguments regarding presidential immunity. Perhaps Trump should have scheduled a dental appointment in D.C. Then Merchan would have had to recess to allow Trump an equal opportunity away from the court as he did with one of the jurors.
OLLY,
“Perhaps Trump should have scheduled a dental appointment in D.C. Then Merchan would have had to recess to allow Trump an equal opportunity away from the court as he did with one of the jurors.”
If that does not put on full display how much of a Soviet Union like show trial this is, I do not know what will.
Upstate, we are well beyond the point that anyone could ignore the absurdity of these cases. The real tragedy is that far too many people gleefully, but ignorantly believe these cases will only have consequences for Trump, the Republican party and conservatives. The only winner will be the faceless blob that controls the weaponization of our justice system. I will never forgot the moment when mespo referenced this exchange from A Man For All Seasons. It is exactly where we are today.
“William Roper: “So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!”
Sir Thomas More: “Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?”
William Roper: “Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that!”
Sir Thomas More: “Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!”
So now even The New York Times is admitting is saying that the case against Trump is just a stupid attempt to stop him from being elected. https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2024%2F04%2F23%2Fopinion%2Fbragg-trump-trial.html
There’s a fine fellow by the name of Alan Dershowitz who voted for Biden twice who also says that it’s a banana republic show trial. It is perfectly clear that these trials are nothing other than election interference dressed up with a twisted interpretation of the law. No matter. The prosecutors will be held up as heroes of the left and their futures will be secured by appearances on MSNBC and CNN for the next four years should Trump win the election. Despite being conned for decades the same people will pull the lever for the banana republic candidate of their choice. We can only hope that some of them will become “woke” in the true meaning of the word.
TiT,
” It is perfectly clear that these trials are nothing other than election interference dressed up with a twisted interpretation of the law.”
Spot on!
@TiT,
Its an opinion piece and its poorly written.
While the intent was to call out the overtly abuse by Bragg in bringing this to trial, he still wants to find Trump ‘guilty’ or saying that the charges are legitimate had Bragg taken a different path.
He wants to call out what everyone sees, yet still retain his libtard creds.
Its more of a black eye for law professors. He knows that the prosecution is wrong, yet he himself is attempting to twist the law to still go after Trump.
Clearly what Bragg is doing is prosecutorial misconduct.
Bragg knows this and knows that there is nothing that can be done. Trump will win the election, and if Trump sues Bragg for misconduct… it will reflect poorly on Trump.
If Trump loses the election. Bragg wins. Mission accomplished. And even then… assume Trump wins in suing Bragg. Bragg will be covered by the State of NY and not suffer.
-G
JT, You completely obfuscate the point once again. trump has a gag order because he uses words to threaten people. He has made it clear what he would like to happen to the judge, his family, the prosecutor, and anyone that dares to testify against him. People have followred trumps advise to harm people on many occasions. Enough is enough. free speach does not give the defendant in a trial the right to threaten anyone that testifies against him. The gag order is pretty simple. Don;t talk about witnesses, or family members of the court. trump is free to campaign tell us what policies he will implement if elected president. Oh wait, he has no plan.
Anonymous, it is the refuge of the thoughtless person to make a statement about someone without providing a source for an insinuation. Thoughtlessness is also often a companion of dishonesty. Your comment provides a perfect example of both.
trump has a gag order because he uses words to threaten people
There are laws against such speech. Laws I note, that have not been used against Trump, despite your baseless smear.
Gag orders issued by trial Judges, in the past have been implemented to protect the defendants ability to receive a fair trial. This judge is only concerned with a conviction, that the Judge knows will be overturned.
New Yorks highest Appeal Court just overturned a major rape conviction. On the trial judge, allowing witnesses that had nothing to do with the indictment. Colangelo has really stepped in it. Just because the Judge is corrupt.
Unfortantely there will be no consequences for any of these people. In fact they will be celebrated.
EnMoron, and Colangello, and Caplan and Carrol and Merchan will be fete’d for the rest of their lives.
They will be hero’s for taking down Trump – even if they fail – they will still be deified.
But then this is the party that seem to think that threatening 10,000 October the 7th is something praise worthy.
ATS, prior restraint is unconstitutional regardless.
Of course Trump is threatening people. There are Threats right here every day.
You are allowed to threaten people.
You are Not allowed to threaten someone with VIOLENCE.
Further if as you claim Trump is threatening people with violence – an actual threat is a crime, Bragg is free to charge Trump.
Regardless it is not Merchan’s business.
What YOU do not understand is that you long ago lost this argument. Not with me, but with the public.
70% of people beleive this is political.
60% of people beleive Biden is behind this.
Those of you on the left are sufficiently stupid as to not grasp that you have been rope-a-doped by Trump.
I WANT you and Merchan to continue to behave as unconstitutionally and stupidly as possible.
That not only undermines this Trial and any outcome, but the entire democratic party.
Democrat pollsters reported that if Trump was indicted – he would lose the election.
Yet what actually happened was that as Trump joked he is one indictment away from a landslide.
You should remember the aphorism “whatever does not kill me makes me stronger”
Or “If you strike the king, you must kill the king”.
or
“If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine”
You do not seem to grasp that you are making Trump stronger not weaker.
By the summer of 2022 Trump was in a tight race with DeSantis it was not likely he was going to win the GOP nomination and less likely that he could defeat Biden.
Since the lawfare against Trump started Trump has been slowly rising in the polls, Biden has slowly been declining.
Trump has been ahead of Biden in the polls consistently for over 6 months. Aside from normal noise he has been gaining for atleat 18 months and Biden has been losing ground the same time.
Do not get me wrong – I will excoriate you for each and every egregious. lawless or unconstitutional act you do.
But neither I nor Trump actually want you to “do the right thing”.
Your own bad conduct is costing you not just the election, but credibility, and legitimacy.
JT, Allow me to elucidate.
JT you said, “I will confess that there are at times a level of contempt expressed in my columns.”
Not so JT. You must reign in the tyranny caused by the children of disobedience just like Paladin did. You go where you must go!
Jon Thank You for fighting the most good fight! You realize you are fighting the Democrats move to fascism…where DC/NY/Liberal Tech…make the rules and destroy those they don’t like.
The whole NY legal system is out of order. Looking a whole lot like Venezuela.
“He has cultivated his professional wrestling style as a trashing talking, chair throwing thug to liberal cable programs. ”
I like that! That is a great analogy! The whole Democrat Party is like a trash talking, chair-throwing wrestler, who cheats to win, and then struts around unashamedly after the victory.
FWIW, Professor Jonathan Turley is commenting live via Twitter on SCOTUS hearing Donald Trump immunity case
Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley
…Justice Sotomayor just hit Sauer and said that Trump was only acting for personal gain and not in the interests or in a function of his government. She is making the slippery slope argument that such immunity would protect the assassination of a president…
https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1783496846687539678
Justices Sotomayor and Jackson are presenting hypotheticals to Trump Counsel D. John Sauer (who was clerk for Justice Scalia), that could similarly apply to Biden, e.g. Biden using lawfare for personal gain
interesting repartee
Supreme Court hears Donald Trump immunity case
May I have your autograph, Professor?! You are now a superstar!!!
If you look at the evidence so far in this trial – The National Enquirer has admitted being Trump’s arm of fake news. Putting out negative stories about Trump’s opponents and positive stories about Trump. In fact, the National Enquirer has admitted making up some of those false stories about Trump opponents by doctoring photos, etc. The story about Ted Cruz’s Dad being involved in the JFK assassination was just wholly made up – but that did not stop Trump from repeating it endlessly.
Anyway, people should really look at the other people who constantly take Trump’s side and go after his enemies – Turley is a prime example, but there are many others such as the whole Fox News operation – and you really have to question whether a lot of what they say is just made up. Indeed, you also have to look at the whole Diminion voting litigation and see that Team Trump’s claims of voter fraud, too, were just made up.
Now do NYTIMES, WAPO, MSDNC, NPR and every other media outlet who are an arm of the Progressive Propaganda networks. We are stewing in Misinformation that the WH is spewing and all your media is parroting like the little Fascists you are.
You failed to cite the Hillary Clinton Dossier. There are no clean hands in this discussion.
JLM
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Hugh, you forgot Dick Cheney feeding stories to the press to help get the Iraq war going.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/remembering-why-americans-loathe-dick-cheney/244306/
“…you really have to question whether a lot of what they say is just made up.” Well, at least Trump wasn’t arrested trying to visit Nelson Mandella and his uncle wasn’t eaten by cannibals, and he never took the train across the bridge in Baltimore for years. I wish we had a different choice than these two, but between them, I’ll take the guy who’ll stand up and fight over the angry old man whose State of the Union was basically “You kids get off my lawn.”
I guess video of hidden boxes of ballots exposed after counting was “temporarily” halted was made up as well. Being labeled an election denier all depends on what side of the political isle you chose to stand. Did Stacey Abrams vehemently contest her loss? Same for Hillary in 2016??
“I think it’s also critical to understand that, as I’ve been telling candidates who have come to see me, you can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you,”
— H. Clinton, 5 May, 2019
..your (‘Hugh’) claim that the ‘claims of voter fraud, too, were just made up…’ based on your simplistic reaction – as an already established DT hater – to the news pro or con is.. LAUGHABLE……. nice try.
“If you look at the evidence so far in this trial”
What evidence – The NY Appelate courts just throughout Weinstein because the judge allowed evidence of crimes not charged.
This is worse – the judge allowed evidence of non-crimes not charged.
“The National Enquirer has admitted being Trump’s arm of fake news. Putting out negative stories about Trump’s opponents and positive stories about Trump. In fact, the National Enquirer has admitted making up some of those false stories about Trump opponents by doctoring photos, etc. The story about Ted Cruz’s Dad being involved in the JFK assassination was just wholly made up – but that did not stop Trump from repeating it endlessly.”
So What ? We see that on the news all the time. MSNBC, CBS, CNN, NYT, WaPo, are constantly running completely and knowingly bogus stories or spinning so hard everyone is launched to the moon.
Nor is this new – we had Jefferson planting stories about Adams and Adams about Jefferson.
None of this is new. None of this is a crime.
Do we all wish that the media had better ethics ? Absolutely – but No one thinks of the National Equirer as a serious new outlet.
I do not beleive Oprah had a love child with a martian – just because the National Enquirer said so.
NYT purports to be “the paper of record” WaPo is supposed to be one of the most trusted nes outlets in the country.
Yet time after time – especially regarding Trump or anything slightly conservative they prove as bad as the national equirer.
If you are going to claim that the National Equirer illegally conspired to rig the election – your going to have to find a law, and when you do your going to have to jail every [politician and the entire media.
You are attempting to criminalize the fact that the media plays favorites.
We ALL abhor that. We also all KNOW that.
The remedy for that is the markets.
The MSM is in trouble – ratings and subscriptions are down.
That is what happens when people lose trust.
That is what is supposed to happen.
If you do not trust the National Equirer – don’t buy it.
I have never bought it in my life.
I do not beleive anything in it EVER.
That does not mean I am going to march stupidly into claiming the editorial choices of the NE are somehow a crime.
Having Pecker testify regarding political editorial choices that NE made means this case will die on appeal.
Merchan is violating the 1st amendment by trying to criminalize the free press.
But then this case is already dead so many ways.
“Anyway, people should really look at the other people who constantly take Trump’s side and go after his enemies”
Yes, you should you should consider the possibility that people like Turley and Barr, and Derschowitz and Vance and …. who are NOT fans of Trump end up constantly defending him – Because YOU are burning the rule of law to the ground to “Get Trump”
I defend Trump CONSTANTLY. I do not like Trump. I have never voted for Trump. I think he is a mysoginist.
I dislike several of his policies.
That does not change the fact that Hillary is still the most disreputable politician alive. That Bidan has NEVER been anything but an incompetent boob.
Contra those on the left – Biden OBVIOUSLY has been taking bribes and selling his office. But is he Al Capone ? No he is just a crooked self serving politician with a penchant for sniffing the hair of teens fondling women and making up tall tales.
Is he a criminal ? Absolutely – a petty one.
Is he criminally dangerous to the country ? No. For exactly the same reason that Trump is not.
We have a holly war in SCOTUS right now over presidential immunity, but one of the things that was addressed by several justices and by both sides is that The president is NOT going to send Seal Team Six to assassinate a political rival – because no one in the military will take an illegal order. The president can not stage a coup to stay in power – because on Jan 20, 20xx at noon he is no longer the president.
He is not the president even if congress does not certify an election. The presidents ability to commit the crimes the left is most fearful of is constrained by the fact that NONE can be done without the complicity of those arround him – and those people are only very narrowly immune.
We have seen allegations that Biden is compromised as president – but the Truth is his influence pedaling operation has been shut down.
No one Arround Biden will allow it. With Zero Doubt Biden is a crook. With Zero doubt the ONLY way in which he is actually a threat to the country is by implimenting the policies that those who elected him want. That unfortunately is NOT A CRIME.
“Turley is a prime example”
Typical of left wing nuts – attack the messenger.
Turley has made valid legal arguments – which of those are Wrong ?
“the whole Fox News operation”
If you do not like Fox – do not watch it.
I beleive nearly every Bragg juror said they watch Fox. Either they are lying or Fox has lots of viewers in the left wing nut capitol of the world.
” Indeed, you also have to look at the whole Diminion voting”
Yes, we should not be condfucting elections using computerized voting machines – but if we are going to do so, they must be far more secure than they are, they must actually meet the NIST standards they are legally required to, they must not be hackable it 2 minutes with a pencil, they must not miscount every ballot with a fold in it.
Regardless there is no requirement to conduct elections using DVS equipment or manual machines or punched cards.
There is a requirement that we conduct elections that can be trusted.
There are ways to use black boxes such that we can trust them – yet that is NOT what we do.
I would note that until Trump it was DEMOCRATS (along with me) attacking voting machines. Many still beleive that voting machines in OH were rigged by DVS to flip the 2004 election to Bush. There was even a multi season Netflix Drama that used that as its thesis.
Republicans Trust machines when they like the results
Democrats do when they like the results.
The FACT is that machines or not, trust in elections requires RULES, and it requires those rules to be scrupulously followed.
You will not have trustworthy elections until the courts are prepared to throw out ballots without chain of custody, or elections without signature verification of voter ID. Until the courts understand that the burden off proof to establish that an election was properly conducted rests with the government not the challengers.
It the 2024 election were held today – the popular vote would be close. Trump would likely win, by a small amount. But he would win the electoral college by 3:2 margin. As with 2016 there would be screams of foul from Democrats.
Ultimately the FACT is that left or right we are ALL entitled to elections that we can trust – regardless of who wins.
And the Winner NEVER gets to decide that the election was done well enough that the losers must grit their teeth and take it.
If we do not return to lawfully conducted elections – we will return to the massive fraud of the 19th century.
Human nature has NOT changed. If anything the incentives for Fraud are much higher today.
Jonathan Turley, tch, tch. Learn ‘me, myself and I’. You should have written “… on me and others …”
Are nt lawyers expected to use the most proper English?
Glass houses, Dave, glass houses.
Sounds like you need a hobby.
David gets the facts and the law wrong all the time. Grammar is the only arrow in his quiver.
Professor Turley is lit today!!