Below is a slightly expanded version of my column in the New York Post on the verdict in the Trump trial. The Manhattan case, in my view, was a raw political use of the criminal justice system. It is only the latest example of the use of the justice system for political purposes and harkens back to the Adams Administration at the start of our Republic. I discuss that period in my book, The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage (which is available this month).
Here is the column:
After years of trying — in the words of the judge — “to get the damned rascal in this court,” it was a conviction that many welcomed.
But those words were not from Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan, and the conviction was not that of former President Donald Trump.
Rather they were from US Supreme Court Justice Samuel Chase, at the end of the 18th century, when America embraced political prosecutions to target critics and opponents.
The man on trial then was James T. Callender, a muckraking writer critical of President John Adams.
For accusing politicians of corruption, Callender was charged with sedition, fined $200 and put in prison.
It was one of the many political prosecutions carried out by the Adams administration.
Undeniable reality
Political prosecutions are something most citizens associate with dictatorships.
But the Trump prosecution has forced many to confront the undeniable reality of the politicization of our legal system.
In many respects, President Biden and Democrats have re-created the Adams era.
Biden has led calls for censorship of political critics and his administration has coordinated the silencing and the blacklisting of those with opposing views.
Democratic politicians have pressured social-media companies to serve as surrogates for the government in banning, throttling and defunding individuals and groups.
Indeed, I have previously written that Biden is now the most anti-free-speech president since Adams.
The Adams era also reflected the same blind loyalty of many media outlets.
Federalist publications supported the crackdowns while echoing charges against political opponents as seditionists and insurrectionists.
Jeffersonian publications, like Callender’s, attacked Adams for his “unbounded thirst for ridiculous pomp, foolish adulation, and selfish avarice.”
The nation was divided down the middle as both sides accused each other of being traitors and insurrectionists. Sound familiar?
A chilling return
Yet, it is the politicization of the legal system that is the most chilling return to the Adams era.
Even liberal legal analysts and figures have admitted that the case against Trump was unprecedented and would not have been brought against anyone other than Trump.
CNN legal analyst Elie Honig recently wrote that there should be concern over a judge being appointed (not randomly selected) who is not just a Biden donor but someone who “has earmarked donations for ‘resisting the Republican Party and Donald Trump’s radical right-wing legacy.’”
Adding to these concerns is the movement of the third-highest official in the Biden Justice Department to the staff of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg to build the case against Trump.
Before joining the case, Matthew Colangelo was also paid by the Democratic National Committee for “political consulting.”
So Trump was convicted in a trial with a Biden donor judge, who has a daughter who is a major Democratic operative, a lead prosecutor previously paid as a DNC political consultant and a jury selected in a district that voted roughly 90% against Trump.
The trial itself was a travesty.
Even after sitting in the courtroom watching the trial and the verdict, I still have no idea what Trump was convicted of in the case.
The charges were built on a dead misdemeanor barred with the passage of the statute of limitations.
It was zapped back into life by alleging that the falsification of business records occurred to unlawfully influence the 2016 presidential election.
Merchan told the jury members that they did not have to agree on what those unlawful means may have been.
Specifically, he allowed them to base their verdict on any one of three vaguely defined crimes of a federal election violation, falsification of business records or taxation violations.
Thus, the jury could have divided 4-4-4 on what actually occurred but the verdict was still treated as unanimous by Merchan to convict Trump.
Like much else in the case, that didn’t matter in deep-blue Manhattan.
Legal analysts and commentators openly celebrated on MSNBC and CNN — joining many in the streets.
This was a thrill-kill conviction, and the response of many in the media bordered on the indecent.
For many outside of Manhattan, the scene was repulsive and chilling.
You can hate Donald Trump but still be repelled by the use of the criminal justice system for political purposes.
There is, however, one silver lining. We went through political prosecutions under Adams and, to a lesser extent, Thomas Jefferson.
Yet, we survived. Our system corrected such abuses over time.
The Alien and Sedition Acts used to prosecute Callender expired.
Justice Samuel Chase was impeached for his partisanship (though not convicted).
With this case, you feel the weight of history in the conviction of a former president, but also a historical awakening.
Sometimes it takes a great abuse to shock the public into recognizing the need to act.
That was the case when the public finally saw Sen. Joe McCarthy in the first televised hearing of an Un-American Activities hearing. It was enough to stop the Red Scare and the abuses of political dissidents. Back then, the left was the target of such weaponization of the legal process. Today, it is the left pushing such abuses.
In the faces of ecstasy of demonstrators and commentators alike this week, we see the same joyful release from the bounds of legal process. The addictive quality of rage.
For them, it was a cathartic moment that was described by one commentator as a reason to celebrate and a “majestic” moment.
For the rest of us, it was more menacing than majestic.
It could prove to be the moment that galvanized many outside of Manhattan; the moment when citizens saw where our rage has taken us.
Sometimes we have to be forced to see what we have become to better understand who we are.
We are better than this.
Jonathan Turley is an attorney and professor at George Washington University Law School.
Trump was convicted of the same crime Cohen was back in 2018. Campaign finance etc except there’s a problem with State and federal because Trump was running for a federal office and not a state office in NY.
That’s all you need point out as in the Arizona ballot case.
Trump is just a white privileged man and needs a beating.
Better still: put him in the slammer for a few weeks— let him find out how scofflaws get treated in the real world.
They’ll pry that toupee off his head, he won’t have makeup to make him look tan, and no one will bring him Diet Coke on demand. Lunch will be an American cheese sandwich on white bread, applesauce in a little plastic cup and a container of milk. He will go to bed when he’s told to, shower on schedule and have to clean up after himself and make his own bed.
^^^^lunatic fantasizes about cornholing trump with a prison broomstick
Who said anything about “cornholing”? I do think a period of reflection for him, in which he’s not in control of his diet or his activities, and in which he must comply with rules set by others is in order. He has it coming. Since Trump was “Individual 1” in the Cohen indictment and Cohen went to prison, why shouldn’t Trump? America needs validation for the concept that “no one is above the law”, and if Trump gets away with this latest convictions solely because he managed to cheat his way into the White House, and especially if he could get back in power and pardon himself for stealing classified documents and starting the insurrection, that WOULD make America a banana republic where the rule of law and trial by jury are meaningless. And, Trump’s “power” is based on lies, aided and abetted by Republicans who used to stand for family values and respect for law and order. That is, until Trump. In addition to his 34 felony convictions, Trump flagrantly disregarded Judge Merchan’s gag order 11 times, even after getting sanctioned. Anyone else would have gotten hauled off to jail summarily. Why should’t Trump? The latest poll shows that most Americans believe that Trump’s convictions are valid. And really, I’ve yet to hear anyone on MAGA media argue against the testimonies of Hicks, Pecker and the document custodians. How do they explain away the “grossed up” comment by Weisselberg or Trump’s own admission that the payments to Cohen were “reimbursement”? Where’s the contrary evidence to Pecker’s testimony that he paid McDougal $150, 000 to “catch and kill” her story about her 10 month affair with Trump to help his campaign? After the Access Hollywood tape, Trump knew he had a problem with women voters, according to Hicks. Additional revelations about sexual liaisons might have done him in. The entire scheme of falsifying business records to cover up the payoffs and paying $150K, which is way over the legal limit of $12,000 for a campaign donation, was calculated to hide essential facts from American voters about Trump’s character. Turley can claim he doesn’t understand this all he wants to–how disingenuous! How disingenuous for MAGA media to scream “election interference” when Trump hid these facts from voters and accepted help from Russian hackers to spread lies about HIllary Clinton?
Laurence O’Donnell got it perfectly right when he said that Trump is the biggest spoiled brat in the history of American spoiled brats. He’s always behaved like he is better than other people, that he can just do as he pleases and get away with it–to wit: grabbing women he finds “beautiful” by the genitals, lying on financial statements to boost his rating in “Forbes”, lying on loan applications by tripling the size of his apartment to borrow more money and on better terms than if he told the truth, sexually assaulting and defaming E. Jean Carroll because she teased him about wearing womens lingerie, stealing classified documents, lying about returning them, moving them around so his attorney couldn’t comply with the request to return them, and falsifying business records to hide his payoffs to a nude model and porn actress with whom he had sexual liaisons, after getting caught on a hot mic bragging about grabbing womens’ private parts. Then, there’s the Big Lie and the insurrection it caused, resulting in multiple people dying–the most poignant of whom was Ashli Babbitt, who died because of her faith in a chronic, habitual liar. Trump owes that family damages for wrongful death and a heartfelt apology for abusing his position of trust. Add to the list attacking the rule of law because it caught up with him and undermining Americans’ belief in our justice system.
Yes, I do believe that fair is fair and that everyone is subject to the rule of law. Trump should do at least a brief stay in some penal facility and afterwards be on probation. Anyone else would get this.
“Anyone else would get this.”
Trump is not a regular defendant being tried just like “anyone else.”
He is Joe Biden’s political opponent.
HUGE distinction…that turns America into Biden’s Banana Republic.
Running for president is not a get out of jail free card, nor should it be. Trump is a regular citizen now, and is not above the law. Other countries have prosecuted their presidents, including France and South Korea.
“Anyone else would get this.”
Now opine on the fate of Hunter Biden.
Hunter is going to prison.
Why? Because he’s guilty and …. say it with me now … “anyone else” would go to jail.
Actually, no they wouldn’t. Hunter paid his back taxes and according to interviews I’ve seen with criminal defense attorneys, anyone else would be pursued civilly for a first offense. Anyway, Hunter isn’t running for president.
“Anyone else would get this.”
Hunter Biden is going to prison for a long, long time.
Why? Because no one is above the law, not even the president’s degenerate scumbag son.
Did we get that right, democrats?
“He’s always behaved like he is better than other people, that he can just do as he pleases and get away with it…”
You mean like Joe Biden has done for 50 years in politics?
Brazenly lying, daily, to the press, to the people, to the world.
Always turns his back on reporters’ questions, as he arrogantly shuffles away, flashing his vicious, evil dictator grin.
Takes millions in bribes from our enemies, hides & launders it in his Crime Family Racketeering Syndicate.
“The Supreme Court blocked me, but they won’t stop me.”
Calling voters who dare question him or his family’s corruption “damn liars” — right to their face.
How much time and space do we have here to list it all?
Joe Biden’s transgressions, lies, crimes, treason, treachery, entitlement, abuse of power, corruption, etc. goes back 50 years.
There is NO comparison at all between the most corrupt, viciously evil president in US history and one of the greatest presidents America has ever had.
Like i said, Gigi fantasizes about TrUmp. She denies it and the goes on a 10 minute tirade about him. She wont admit she wants to cornhole him.
Left wing nut talking heads are discussing all kinds of stupid things like this.
1). Trump will file a notice of appeal – Dershowitz suggested filing in the next few weeks – Why ?
Because a notice of appeal in NY stays sentencing.
Even if sentencing has already occured it nearly always stays imposing the sentence.,
2). I know that you think you won, but this trial did NOT take place in a manhattan court room – it took place in public and the jury that matters is the electorate – adn repeatedly those of you on the left have publicly confirmed that has been your goal from the start – which is a significant part of Why you have actually LOST this case.
There are all kinds of predictions right now – but so far the indications are this has not hurt Trump and likely helped him.
3). The BEST thing that could happen to Trump now – would be for Bragg/Merchan to do something stupid like try to send Trump to prison.
Merely trying will further anger the electorate. How many points do you wish to lose this election by ?
Regardless – You think YOU Put Trump on trial.
The FACT is Trump put YOU – the left on Trial and the jury in Manhattan convicted YOU not Trump.
Those of you on the left really do not seem to understand that behaving like petty tyrants makes you look bad – even if you win.
We will see, but I am betting that when the dust settled – Trumps polling will got UP. But it could take a bit for this to settle.
John Say,
Well said and much more analysis of the reality of the situation.
John Say,
“ The FACT is Trump put YOU – the left on Trial and the jury in Manhattan convicted YOU not Trump.
Those of you on the left really do not seem to understand that behaving like petty tyrants makes you look bad – even if you win.”
That’s hilarious. The amount of animosity and projection is out of this world.
If it were the other way around YOU would be gloating and screaming “I told you so” finger wagging exclamations.
Trump is an idiot. He put himself in that position. Trump was found guilty in a court law. He got his due process and he had his chance to testify in his defense. If he is as smart as you say he is he should have testified.
Fantasize all you want – but not happening.
Any attempt to jail Trump prior to the election will result in an immediate appeal directly to the supreme court.
It is likely that The justice for the 2nd circuit will just stay the sentence – without granting cert, but if that does not happen – the case will get cert, and the sentence will be suspended immediately – it could occur within hours.
A less likely scenario is that an appeal to SCOTUS over sentencing could get them to look at the entire case.
I doubt they would reverse immediately, but they could suspend sentencing and send the court to the NY appeals court with strong suggestions that there are constitutional problems with this case.
MOSTLY “experts” think it is unlikely that SCOTUS will take a direct appeal on this – absent FURTHER efforts at election interferance.
But many many legal experts on the right are not talking about tit for tat.
THAT could provoke the US supreme court into acting quickly.
They do not want dozens of Political prosecutions headed there way, and the easiest way to stop that is to send a strong message QUICKLY.
I suspect this case has likely cause SCOTUS to rethink the presidential immunity decision they are supposed to release shortly..
They could kick it in to next term, or they could decide what they are seeing in NYC is so stupid and dangerous that they change their oppinion and write a BROAD criminal immunity decision. I suspect the former is more likely than the latter.
“ Any attempt to jail Trump prior to the election will result in an immediate appeal directly to the supreme court.”
No it won’t. It’s laughable. It’s pure wishful thinking.
The Supreme Court will not get involved. The appeals process will take a while to course thru the system. They are not going to make a special exception just because Trump is a former president. He’s just a regular citizen like anyone else.
It’s all about the sentencing. They will take into account his contempt of court charges his criticism of the judge. Trump will have to watch his mouth and his behavior while on probation. He can go to jail on the first violation. His rights are limited and he has to ask permission to travel anywhere.
When SCOTUS issues their immunity ruling sometime this month. It will very likely get worse for Trump.
Yes, they should put him in the hoosgow for a couple weeks. That will bring this whole corrupt debacle to a head, and we will see what influence 80 million outraged people will have.
I pray a couple of million people will show up with sledgehammers to tear down the court and the jail.
Yes, they should put him in the hoosgow for a couple weeks. That will bring this whole corrupt debacle to a head, and we will see what influence 80 million outraged people will have.
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– Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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@Estovir
Powerful to who? The never Trumpers and radical left will never see it. Preaching to the choir. That is probably not going to carry the day, currently, especially with the under-40. Though I’m grateful it was said, might as well not exist. 🤷🏽♂️
Trump has been gaining strongly amoung minorities – the biggest gains are “under 50 black men”.
I don’t think 50 black men will make much of a difference in the election.
Gee Trieste,
You made me laugh!
John Say,
You are correct.
Trump has gained with Blacks and Hispanics.
Asians have their own version of MAGA that goes even further. Biden and leftists war on Asian’s being successful, the Asian community have all but abandoned the Democrat party.
Muslims dont seem at all interested in Biden. Not that they are for Trump, but it is a voting block Biden seems to have lost.
Jews are questioning their loyalty to the Democrats as anti-semitism rages across the country.
Long time, traditional Democrats like Elon Musk, Mill Maher, the good professor, and even my own sister are all aghast at how far the radical leftists have taken their party. My sister wrote to both the DNC and the Biden campaign that she would not be voting for Biden.
Excellent, thanks for sharing this!
It is very clear that Merchan must and will go to prison after this tragicomical judicial farce.
While it is absolute true that using the idiotic legal nonsense of the left thgat it would be trivial for a TX AG to try and prosecute Bragg and Merchan for criminal election interference.
We should not repeat the same mistakes as those on the left.
We should not seek revenge by prosecuting those on the left using bogus criminal claims.
Merchan violated the rules of judicial ethics – he should be removed from office.
It is highly unlikely that will happen.
At the same time there is a firm foundation for political change in NY.
Lets turn NY red. Lets put into place in NY legislators, judges and others that will prevent this nonsense from happening again.
Next, the Boycott of Budweiser was incredibly successful and put big business on notice that pandering to the left comes at a REAL cost.
If you do not need to do business in or with NYC – don’t. If you have a choice – do not buy or sell products to NYC.
Leave the rest of NYS alone – they are not responsible for this.
The whole sequence of Trump targeting in NYC will have a long term significant negative impact on NYC.
But it will take time and mostly happen quietly.
Billions of capitol flight has already occured in NY as a consequence of hostile left wing governance.
The NY targeting of Trump has aggravated that. This will make it worse.
Nor is this about Trump. Bragg and those in NYC have made it clear – if they do not like you – they are cabable of destroying you.
That drives up the risk of doing business in NYC.
The law of supply and demand works.
Increase the cost and demand drops. 7
In principle, you are exactly correct.
We got to this point precisely by assuming the left are operating in good faith.
They are not.
The only viable response at this point is retaliatory and retributive indictments of them for perverting the legal system. This must happen, and will.
Unfortunately, this is going to get very ugly, very fast.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/05/trumps-trial-has-already-damaged-the-office-of-the-presidency/
They are operating in good faith. The right has a massive ignorance problem. They live in an alternate reality.
No, you are not operating in good faith. This is now proven.
You live in the “alternative reality” that is anti-constitutional.
George has shown that he lives in Gigi’s reality.
Still wondering what “willful denial” is. He has used this term multiple times.
One dumb sum beotch
John Say,
“ We should not repeat the same mistakes as those on the left.
We should not seek revenge by prosecuting those on the left using bogus criminal claims.”
But you prescribe to the notion of “turnabout is fair play”
The right is all about petty vengeance and retribution. The eye for an eye mentality dominates the right, even for the most petty of reasons.
The communist left is all about petty vengeance and retribution. The eye for an eye mentality dominates the communist left, even for the most petty of reasons.
Because the right doesn’t have to prosecute on bogus charges, it is a target rich environment. Sedition, subversion, bribery, drug use, campaign finance fraud, obstruction of justice, contempt of congress, perjury. Plenty of options!
George – you are not paying the slightest attention.
Absolutely – Turn about is fair play.
Doing to those of you on the left what you have done to those you do not like – that is fully justified.
And we all KNOW that you are terrified of that – you say so all the time.
“A Trump presidency would be the end of democracy” unstated but clear as a bell is – because he will do to you what you did to him.
Separately there MUST be a consequence for this. It is clear those of you on the left are unable to learn from your mistakes without consequences.
Frankly you do not seem to be able to learn even with consequences.
Again Turn about is fair play – and you have GIVEN the right Power over you. You have given them the right to justified retribution.
At the same time it is necessary for your victims to make better choices than you have.
As the declaration of independence makes clear – there is a point at which violence is justified.
As jefferson wrote
“when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under
absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security”
The left is driving us in that direction – but we are not there yet. Nor do I think we will get there.
One of the reasons we will not get there – is because YOUR actions are destroying you.
There will be no need for violence – because you are destroying yourselves.
To be clear – that is not a committment not to respond with violence, it is just a judgement that we are not their yet.
Eventually it becomes “our right, our duty”
For now better to follow Sun Tzu’s advice
“Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself”
My advice to others here is not – “You are not entitled, to do to those on the left what they are doing to you”
It is that is not the wisest course of action.
There is only one thing that Republicans must avoid right now – that is overplaying their hand.
An attempted assassination of Merchan or Bragg would be a mistake.
I do not think at this moment the Best tactic would be for a TX DA to prosecute Bragg or Merchan for election interferance.
But I am ambivalent – it MIGHT provoke the NY courts to grasp it would be a good idea to try to restore some of the forest of the law – before the devil comes for them.
“William Roper: “So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!”
Sir Thomas More: “Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?”
William Roper: “Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that!”
Sir Thomas More: “Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!”
+10,000 for A Man for All Seasons reference
See Article 10 of the NH State Constitution:
“whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government.”
You would not need to worry about vengeance and retribution if you had behaved lawfully and morally.
My advice to those on the right right now – is that you have been given the moral high ground – use that carefully, it is easily lost.
My message to those on the left is – you F#$Ked up and you should be very afraid, you have cut down the forest of the law and the devil may turn on you.
You should be praying that Republicans in power do not behave as you.
Listen to many here – their talking about trying Bragg and merchan and even this jury with treason and stringing them up.
Mostly that is rhetorical – Mostly. When totalitarian regimes collapse often Bad things happen.
Mussolini and his mistress Petacci were executed and hung upside down by partisans.
We are far short of anything like that being justified ….. YET, But the left has been RELENTLESSLY headed in that direction for a long time.
“Turn back, O man
Forswear thy foolish ways
Old now is earth
And none may count her days”
If you can not behave morally – because it is the right thing to do.
Then maybe you can behave morally out of the fear of the justified vengence of those you have harmed.
Sadly, we are past that point.
If you behave morally and adhere to the rule of law – you have absolutely nothing to fear from the right.
There is no need to fear vengeance and retribution, to fear and eye for an eye – if you have not done something that justifies retribution.
Petty retribution is what petty people should fear for their own petty conduct.
My advice to those on the right – is that you idiots on the left have given them a gift. You have given them power.
You have justified retribution.
If TX AG PAxton decided to do something equivalent to what Bragg and James have done – while many likeTurley, and Dershowitz, and even I would advise against fighting lawlessness with lawlessness, about 1/3 of the country would support that, and another 1/3 might see that as wrong – but would not care – as you brought it on yourself.
I’m not sure the partisan attacks on the judge for his contributions to Biden ($35 total) or his daughter’s activities (the sins of the daughter are not those of the father).
What is certain is that the judge consistently made rulings against the defense, denied the defense the ability to put forth its best defense, disallowing exculpatory evidence and testimony, and ultimately the jury instructions were oriented towards a conviction. There are so many things that went in that should make this a slam dunk reversal at appellate court.
The DA ran on getting Trump, which does not seem like the America way. The law was never used against anyone in this fashion before. The 34 counts are just piling on for the only benefit of harsher penalty.
If the state of NY can’t get this right in the end, SCOTUS should.
I’m not a fan of Trump and wouldn’t never consider voting for him. I’m just a fan of blind justice.
Publius – the attacks are not partisan. Judges in NY are barred from making political contributions – this is an ethics issue.
Separately the SPECIFIC contributions that Merchan made were to an ANTI-TRUMP organization – not a generic democrat group or some democrat running for the house.
Even the appearance of Bias REQUIRES that you recuse yourself. Even SMALL evidence of hostility towards a party in court REQUIRES disqualification.
I would note – recusal is NOT punishment. Nor is this the US Supreme court where there are only 9 justices and there are no replacements and it is near certain that every single case will result in some kind of conflict, and where dozens of judges have ruled BEFORE the case gets to them.
This is a trial court where there are many other judges available to hear the same case.
I would note under NY’s ethics rules – the daughters involvement in fundraising off the trial itself is a far more significant issue.
The issue is NOT about “the sins of the daughter” – nothing she is doing is wrong. But it DOES require Merchaun to recuse himself. He did not.
The only thing worse that failing to recuse when there are strong indicators of bias, is subsequently bearing those out with displays of actual bias.
Merchan was not required to recuse himself. The amount he contributed is tiny. $35. $15 to the Biden campaign and $10 each to two voter outreach organizations.
He isn’t required to recuse over that amount. This was in 2020.
If someone filed a complaint he would be required to recuse himself.
It’s an amount too trivial to recuse over.
Incorrect, his immediate family benefits by the related case.
George the idiot.
Tell us Mr Expert. What is the maximum allowed contribution, to a political cause?Before a judge must recuse?
He wont answer that
George the amount is irrelevant. The fact that some or all of the contributions were to an avowedly anti-trump organization is critical.
While NY Jurists are ethically barred from making any political contributions. And therefore Merchan should not have been so stupid as to do so. This is not about Supporting Biden. This is about the APPEARANCE of animus towards Trump.
There is no amount too trivial where evidence of animus and personal bias is involved.
The same is true regarding his daughter – only worse.
She is actively involved in soliciting Funds using this trial to get people to contribute.
That is absolutely her right to do.
But it is also a massive conflict of interests for Merchan. His daughters success in here job is directly effected by Merchan’s handling of the trial. She will financially benefit more from one outcome than another.
NY law requires 6 degrees of separation – I think that is ludicrous.
But direct conflicts involving clear financial benefits immediate family where you have a choice to take the case or not – that requires recusal.
The list of errors legal and ethical Merchan has made would fill a book.
This is just one. It is one of many that alone are enough to toss the while case, which ultimately will happen.
On January 20, 2025, Real President Donald J. Trump must pull a full Lincoln and seize all power, declare martial law, suspend habeas corpus, smash printing presses, throw opponents in prison, invade a sovereign foreign nation (Mexico?), start an undeclared war, fix the ’28 election, fail to enforce extant immigration law against clear violators, etc., etc., etc., and drill, drill, drill, and deport, deport, deport!
I assume this is ironic and an indirect way of criticizing Lincoln (which we all know you love to do), right?
Please cite the Constitution for any prohibition of secession.
If you cannot, everything Lincoln did was, and remains, invalid, illegitimate, illicit, and unconstitutional and must be remedied, beginning with the full extirpation of the “Reconstruction Amendments,” so-named by Karl Marx, Lincoln’s fellow traveler, and extending, but not limited to, conclusive enforcement of immigration law extant on January 1, 1863.
To wit,
“They consider…that it fell to…Abraham Lincoln…to lead his country through the…RECONSTRUCTION of a social world.” [B]
– Karl Marx Letter To Abraham Lincoln, 1865 https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm
In a nation of laws, the laws must be, and must have been, strictly adhered to.
As Roe v. Wade was struck down retroactively by 50 years, the criminal corruption of “Crazy Abe” Lincoln must also be struck down retroactively by 150 years.
America must be corrected back to the future of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Naturalization Act of 1790, ratified and legislated by the American Founders and Framers.
So that is a “yes”.
So no citation, proving Lincoln was the consummate criminal of high office and archenemy of the very essence of the United States of America.
Do you want a secure border, no new wars, a booming economy, energy independence, and safe streets in our cities? Trump delivered that while Biden delivered the exact opposite, and he also delivered a thoroughgoing corruption of the national justice system. The choice this time is simple because we’ve experienced four years of each option. You can choose life and peace and a healthy economy (Trump) or war, death, and economic misery (Biden). Everything else is a mere distraction.
Think about how nuts it would be to return someone to power who so booted the handling of a pandemic that hundreds of thousands died needlessly, put a convicted felon in charge of the justice department, ran a months long campaign to overthrow an election he clearly lost, someone who ordinarily couldn’t even get a security clearance being in charge of American foreign policy again…
And then reflect on the fact this is exactly what Turley (and the trumpists here) are calling for.
And then realize this is what they’ll call for when he loses the next election.
You’re right, it would be nuts to return Biden to power.
Gosh, didn’t Trump call for hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin ? Yet the WHO Nazis lambasted him for saying drink fish tank cleaner, clorox and horse paste? Trump was spot on yet that little dwarf fugger Fauci continued to lie and deceive. It’s all coming out just as the stolen 2020 election proof, it will all be revealed. Think of this as perspective as to NY, Governor Cuomo sent infectious COVID patients to nursing homes where they infected others and died. This is how Cuomo handled unfunded liabilities in NY, was he charged with manslaughter, wreckless endangerment, elder abuse or anything?
Think about how nuts it would be to return someone to power that managed to rack up over twice the COVID deaths of his predecessor, and that was with three vaccines and 1mil per day getting the jab. His one job was to distribute the vaccine and to determine the cause of COVID. Under Joetard’s watch, he not only created distrust of the vaccine, he actually had people fired if they expressed concern or refused to take it (many of whom only a few months before were deemed “essential” workers that had to working during the worst of the pandemic). Oh and, he never did manage to determine the actual cause of COVID, either a “wet market” or the giant US funded virology lab….located in the same town. Maybe you guys should take a breather on this one. Trump actually had to lead, Joetard couldn’t even get the vaccine out without screwing it up.
Remember Trump sent a Hospital ship to NY and the Governor refused use? Remember that the stores of emergency medical supplies were empty from Obama/Biden Administration and Trump had to kick in expedited production? How the Marxist scum love to forget the facts.
“so booted the handling of a pandemic “
Have you always been an ignorant douche or os this a new development?
Your little prince fauci is who booted it.
More people died in the same time frame under biden, despite him having 1. Vaccines 2. Therapeutics 3. The most vulnerable already dead.
So eat shit with that Gigi nonsense.
4 times more people died of Covid under Biden.
Further there is no evidence anywhere in the world that ANY government approach to dealing with covid provided ANY benefit.
Not a single COVID death in the US or the world was preventable by different covid policies.
But many many non-covid deaths and other harms during covid were preventable by NOT imposing draconian and ineffective policies that lead to increased drug use, depression, anxiety, suicides and drug overdoses.
Is Trump responsible atleast partly for the negative impacts that resulted from following the advice of corrupt left wing nut government health “experts” – rather than the guidance of those in epidemeology who actually knew what they were talking about ?
Sure – but so it Biden and the damage – including many many deaths from Biden trying to push policies that by the time he was president self evidently FAILED was far higher.
If Trump clearly lost the 2020 election – then why did Biden and Democrats fight any actual investigation of the 2020 election ?
We have much the same as with the collusion delusion.
Coverup the truth, sell long and loud a lie with the collusion of the press and hope that as the truth slowly bubbles out often years later – that nobody notices.
It is 2024. The tallies for Pennsylvania STILL show 179,000 more ballots counted than people who voted.
We learned from FOIA requests that the DOJ’s claim to have investigated 2020 election fraud claims was a lie. The DOJ did not investigate a single election fraud claim in 2020 anywhere at all – not one.
Anyone within the federal government at the time that publicly claimed that fraud allegations had been investegated and were found to be unfounded is LYING.
In Fulton County GA it turns out the FC board of elections refused to certify 2020 3 separate times – because the elections officials that work for them REFUSED to provide answers to simple questions – like were signatures verified or did ballots have chain of custody records, or was there any investigation into the shutdown and secret reopening of the counting center or of the video showing an election official pulling suitcases out from under a table and running ballots through.
almost 4 years later we have FINALLY gotten answers:
Despite GA law requiring signature verification, and despite FC paying over 11m for a signature verification system and despite promises in late October that it would be operational, that no mailin ballot in Fulton County EVER had its signatre verified – not a single one.
Not by an automated system, not manually. Every single mailing ballot that made its way to the FC counting center was counted.
Does this prove fraud – no. What it proves is that fraud was trivially easy, and would never be coaught.
Trump was DEMANDING that Raffensberger conduct a signature audit in FC. Raffensberger agreed to do so.
Instead he conducted a random audit of nearby Cobb county – an affluent democratic county where it was found that 6% of mailin ballots failed signature matching and 0.6% were fraudulent.
Hundreds of thousands of ballots in FC have no chain of custody. The law requires that ballots without chain fo custody can not be counted.
There were no investigations of anything that occured at the FC counting facilities. While fraud can not be proving – illegal conduct absolutely occcured.
Michigan law allows absentee ballots from senior care fascilities. That law REQUIRES that two election officials – one from each party take ballots to the fascility and oversee the voting – much as is done at the polls. So there is no possibility of fraud.
In 2016 there were about 14,000 ballots from senior fascilities in MI collected in this way.
In 2020 the requirement for election officials to come to fascilities and supervise voting were ignored.
Almost 150,000 ballots were received from MI senior centers in 2020. There is no chain of custody on any of these ballots.
Many came from demensia wings, some came from patients who are on life support, maqny came from seniors who swear they were never provided a ballot.
Was Covid mishandled – absolutely Democrats used it as an excuse to commit massive ballot fraud.
“If Trump clearly lost the 2020 election – then why did Biden and Democrats fight any actual investigation of the 2020 election ?”
Selective amnesia and willful denial come in handy for republicans. Every instance of voter fraud was investigated. Trump lost 60 cases. He couldn’t produce evidence and most of his supporters lacked standing to sue.
Kari Lake tried the Trump approach and failed miserably and often. She tried to do what Trump did. Both failed because they didn’t have the requisite evidence to prove their claims.
There’s still the Georgia case. We’ll find out the truth in court. Just as we did in Manhattan.
Can’t say a convicted felon would have much credibility in court.
“Selective amnesia and willful denial come in handy for republicans. Every instance of voter fraud was investigated.”
It was ?
Then where is the investigation of the 179,000 more ballots in PA than people who voted ?
What court heard evidence and issued findings of fact on that.
I noted that FOIA requests have revealed that contra DOJ claims NOT A SINGLE DOJ/FBI investigation of a 2020 Fraud allegation occurred.
Thats is not some right wing conspiracy theory – that is what DOJ/FBI responded to FOIA requests.
They did NOT say:
Can not answer – ongoing investigations.
They did not say – can not answer – executive priviledge.
They said there are no responsive records – because there were do 2020 federal election fraud investigations.
NONE.
The Affadavit of the truck driver that claims he transported a full 18 wheeller of filled out PA Ballots from NYC to Philadelphia – can you cite where his claim was investigated and found false ? The claim was forwarded to the US attorney for PA who wanted to investigate but was personally directed by Barr to forward the case to the PA AG – who is now the PA Governor who burried it.
You talk about all these court cases. Great – where are thr transcripts of the hearings ?
Where are the cross-examinations of the witnesses. of the over 1000 affadavits of observations of election fraud in 2020,
Where is there a single instance in which the person filing that affadavit testified before a judge ?
Do you have ONE instance in which there is EVIDENCE of anything resembling an actual investigation.
In 2022 Kari Lake sued Maricopa county for election fraud. While she was ultimately unable to prove to an artificially high standard one that is much higher than the AZ law requires that the outcome of the election was altered.
She absolutely poroved that the election was handled – not merely incompetently – but with DELIBERATE disregard for the law.
We got to hear evidence and testimony. We got to learn that the voting equipment was tampered with and that election officials lied.
We got to learn that the problems with the equipment were known over a month before the election.
Numerous election officials were caught lying under oath.
Left Wing nuts attempted to sanction lake – but ultimately the AZ sumpreme court EXPLICITLY found that while Lake did NOT prove that she won the election, she PROVED far more than enough error and recklessness that there were real issues and that her lawsuit was fuilly justified.
But even that was NOT an investigation – that was just an election lawsuit that actually made it to court.
“He couldn’t produce evidence and most of his supporters lacked standing to sue.”
Both false and a ridiculously stupid claim.
Whether you like it or not – it is the DUTY of govenrment to conduct elections that people trust.
The burden of proof – without any need for a lwasuit is ALWAYS on the government.
There is no such thing as legitimate government without a legitimate trusted election.
It is the DUTY of those in govenrment to conduct the election – not such that the winners will beleive the outcome – but so that nearly everyone will beleive the outcome. I do not know what the current polls are – but for most of the past 4 years between 46 and 56% of people beleived that the 2020 election was not lawfully conducted.
That alone is a huge problem – that is a problem even if everything was actually done perfectly.
Government must not only conduct the election without significant fraud – or error, but it must do so such that nearly everyone BELEIVES they did.
In 1989 2M east berliners took to the street. The rejected their current government. A government that had won the most recent elections.
There was not a new election. The people merely decided they did not trust the govenrment.
Within hours that government was GONE.
That is what the declaration of independence means when it says that the people have the right to alter or abolish any government that they do not trust to secure their rights.
J6 and the Trump challenges were 100% predictable.
You conducted a lawless election, using Covid as an excuse to change the rules without following any of the constitutional processes to do so. You did so mostly in secret. Then you conducted the counting of ballots int he way most certain to cause people to distrust the results.
Amidst post election calls for investigations and transparency – instead you resorted to lawfare and increased secrecy.
You explictly refer to standing decisions. While standing doctrine is a creation of the courts – not the law or constitution – I do not have a problem with it.
But the purpose of standing is not to prevent a case from going forward.
A state or Federal court can decide that Trump does not have standing, or that Joe Doe does not have standing.
But it can not use standing as a means to avoid hearing an actual case or controversy.
The doctrine of standing exists to make sure that the party who is harmed most by some issue is the one in court.
We do not as an example what pro-choice groups in court defending restrictive abortion laws.
Or pro-life groups defending broad abortion rights.
Standing is supposed to asure that a court deals with an issue only ONCE and that the party(s) that raise that issue are the ones bast able to present that challenge.
When the courts do not find that anyone has standing – they ERR – PERIOD.
Someone ALWAYS has the right to raise allegations of election fraud.
If claims of fraud NEVER get to a hearing on the actual merits – the COURTS have failed to do their duty and have elevated a judicial doctrine above the constitution.
“Kari Lake tried the Trump approach and failed miserably and often. She tried to do what Trump did. Both failed because they didn’t have the requisite evidence to prove their claims.”
You clearly did not follow the lake case at all.
Lake had actual hearings – where she proved lots and lots of very serious problems with the election.
Had the State of AZ followed the standard of proof in election challenges – which is quite low in AZ – Lake would have prevailed.
But the Trial court impossed an artificially high standard and the appeals courts allowed them to get away with it.
The Actual AZ standard is that the result can not be trusted – Lake EASILY met that standard.
She also caught election officials in lie after lie after lie.
But for the fraud in the AZ AG race – numerous Maricopa county election officials would be facing perjury charges now.
Regardless, the Judge required lake to prove that the problems in the AZ election would have changed the outcome.
That is an unmeettable standard. We KNOW that Maricpoa county through out valid ballots but we do not know hoe many or who was voted for. We KNOW that the problems with the equipment – which election officials KNEW ABOUT a month in advance were sufficient that many voters did not vote – we do not know how many, or who they voted for.
In Germany in 2022 a very similar problem – on a SMALLER scale resulted in a judge throwing out the entire Berline mayor election – because of unintentional problems in a few precincts that resulted in voters being unable to vote or being unwilling to wait
That is how HONEST elections are conducted.
“ Then where is the investigation of the 179,000 more ballots in PA than people who voted ?”
That claim has been debunked multiple times. You’re doing what Kari lake kept doing. Peddling a long debunked claim that court after court after court found to be BS.
“ noted that FOIA requests have revealed that contra DOJ claims NOT A SINGLE DOJ/FBI investigation of a 2020 Fraud allegation occurred”
Of course not. Because states that conducted investigations and courts ruling lack of evidence and lack of standing on almost all fraud claims were addressed. Those without evidence to present to the courts were dismissed. Those with lack of standing issues were due to incompetent plaintiffs or people who had no proof of being harmed by the alleged fraud.
Courts do NOT investigate anything. Thats not their job. State election commissions and elected bodies do. The vast majority found no significant voter fraud. Or fraud that would overturn a vote.
The rest of your long winded comment is just a grievance filled rant.
The GA case is dead – that is what happens when you have a biased and corrupt prosecutor.
I am not sure that Willis will go to jail – though frankly she is 10,000 times more of a felon than Trump.
But she is going to be tied up in legal and ethical challenges for years.
I think it is near certaint hat the GA appeals court will DQ her.
While McAffee is not the legal cretin that Merchan is, he was unwilling to “do the right thing” when it likely would cost him re-election.
Instead he documented the “”ordor of mendacity” and kicked the issue to an appelate court.
Sometime – likely years from now – the case will be kicked to another prosecutor and dropped – because there is no case.
Even McAffee had to throw out many of the charges. I would also suggest that if he remains on the case and it actually resumes past a point in which it will politically effect him – while still biased – he is not 1/100th as screwed up as merchan – the case will die in his court if some prosecutor is willing to move forward with it.
Because there is no case.
I would further note that – myriads of revalations regarding the GA 2020 election have been PROVEN in court recently –
in the unlikely case this case proceeds – it is not Trump with a credibility problem 0 it is Fulton County that will be on trial.
“ The GA case is dead – that is what happens when you have a biased and corrupt prosecutor.”
It’s still ongoing. Nothing has stopped the clock or the pursuit of the charges.
I asked you for transcripts of hearings where the people who filed affadavits were called as witnesses, testified on direct and where then cross examined.
Do you have those ? Any of those ?
Do you have actual evidence that there was ANY investigation conducted ?
You’ve never asked me for that. What are you talking about?
+100
“Can’t say a convicted felon would have much credibility in court.”
You gotta be the dumbest mutha fvcka on the planet. You just cant resist shoving your foot in your mouth.
Ever hear of a guy named Micheal Cohen???
You are one stupid sumbeotch
“Selective amnesia and willful denial come in handy for republicans. Every instance of voter fraud was investigated.”
George the moron. Please explain the difference between denial and willful denial.
You are one dumb sumbeotch
“Can’t say a convicted felon would have much credibility in court.”
That’s amusing.
The Left argued the opposite for the convicted felon Cohen.
Biden mishandled Covid and hundreds of thousands of people died – of suicide, cancer, drug overdoses as a result.
Biden has a multidecade political carreer of selling public office for the personal benefit of himself and his family.
Biden is using lawfare to try to overturn and election he has clearly lost.
Biden is far too demented to get a security clearance, and has actually improperly handled classified information – including sharing it with reporters.
Separately – while inarguably Trump is far better qualified in every are that you mentioned.
Far more importantly – Trump has been far more Effective.
The vaccine has fundimentally proven a failure. But it was still a worthwhile attempt.
Trump gets credit for getting a vaccine to the people in MONTHS when that normally takes years.
It would have been nice if it actually worked.
Conversely Biden had a vaccine fromt he start – had on average the same number of deaths per month for 3 times as long as Trump – despite a vaccine. and covered up the fact that the vaccine was not working and was causing 10+ times the harm of any previously approved vaccine.
It is unargable that Trump’s foreign policy was far better than Biden’s Do we really need to list the numeorus FP disasters under Biden ?
Recent reporting has inflation up another 2.7% – while we are not back to the 9% rates Biden caused we are many many times higher than the 1.4% rates Trump left Biden.
Trump left biden a peaceful world – with peace in the mideast and peace in eastern europe.
Trump left Biden a swtrong economy that was in the process of a post Covid boom.
Trump left Biden with a secure border.
Trump left Biden with incomes in the bottom quintile 4500/year higher than when he was elected.
Biden has destroyed all these and more.
For the first time this cycle democracy really is on the ballot. What the corrupt lawfare Dems just did is the most undemocratic act in American history. If they get away with winning this election through their blatant election interference and cheating we can all kiss democracy goodbye in America.
“Hardcore followers of Donald Trump are calling for riots, insurrection, and assassination after he was criminally convicted of falsifying business records on Thursday.”
The right is always violent. They just need the right incentive and they put Antifa to shame.
The Left always projects, and the above is no exception.
It is you leftists who are inciting violence using your FBI GESTAPO shoot-to-kill raids and kangaroo courts.
You will riot again before and during the party conventions.
Havent seen any of it.
George the Moron
Haven’t seen any? There have been calls to “rise up” right here. Posters inciting or invoking veiled threats of violence.
Right-wingers are losing their minds and demanding revenge. It’s not hard to miss.
Havent seen any of it.
Why do i give a shit about empty rhetoric??
Grow up, douche
Can you give us a few references? I must have missed them all.
“Find the jurors. All of them. Take no prisoners,” wrote one user on a Trump-focused message board.
“Just give them the rope,” said another, in an explicit reference to lynching. “The time for talking has long gone. Let them swing outside the courthouse.”
“One million men (armed) need to go to Washington and hang everyone. That’s the only solution,” said one message quoted by Reuters”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maga-faithful-call-for-riots-and-lynchings-after-trump-s-guilty-verdict/ar-BB1nq5Xa?ocid=sapphireappshare
Yep, it figures. You like to get your opinion from msn, dont you?
The left is hoping there will be violence from the right. Not gonna happen.
The right WANTS violence. They demand revenge. There’s calls for civil war and “taking care” of the judge.
They want justice, and you should be concerned that the also want revenge.
Is it your argument that the right can NOT do to you what you do to them ?
Is it your argument that a corrupt judge and a politically motivated prosecutor and prosecution should have no consequences ?
Trump is going to win this on appeal – most everyone knows that.
After that occurs – what are the consequences ?
Who pays Trump’s millions in legal expenses for this HOAX ?
Who repays the citizens of the country for being subject to this banana republic Bill$hit ?
Where do the poeple of the U go to get their good name back ?
People are justifiably angry right now.
Personally I think the Boston Tea Party approach of our founders is appropriate – Tar and Feather Merchan.
It was good enough for Paul Revere and Sam Adams.
But all kidding aside – there actually MUST be a consequence for this.
So far this has not harmed Trump in the polls. That still could go either way – but the evidence so far suggests more benefit that harm.
Trump certainly has the growing support of Black Men under 50.
You can call it revenge, you can call it justice, you can call it punishment.
But there MUST be consequences for this.
Those consequences MUST be imposed following the rule of law.
While it would be Trivial for a TX AG to follow Bragg/Merchan’s blueprint and indict them for fraudulent election interfeance.
Unfortunately the right answer is NOT for those on the right to stoop to the level of those on the left. 4
“ They want justice, and you should be concerned that the also want revenge.”
No, they just want revenge. Because they can’t handle the idea that Trump committed a crime and was found guilty.
“ Is it your argument that the right can NOT do to you what you do to them ?”
No. My argument is that the right cannot grasp the idea that the law worked as it’s supposed to. Just because it seems unfair or unjust doesn’t mean it was corrupt.
You only see corruption when things don’t go the way you expect. So you think it MUST be corruption. Because it didn’t seem fair.
You’re looking for all kinds of excuses to justify anything that you can attach as corruption. Because it seemed. Unfair based on your gross misinterpretation of the law.
“ Unfortunately the right answer is NOT for those on the right to stoop to the level of those on the left. 4”
They were already below the left to begin with. They couldn’t stoop lower.
Yep and YOU are dumb enough to think its gonna happen.
Grow up, douche
So we get stupid violent rhetoric from those of you on the left all the time.
Is anyone actually doing any of this ?
At J6 where there were rhetorical calls to hang mike pence and even a gallows.
A sing on the gallows said “This is Art” and the gallows itself was incapable of holding a child.
I know this is hard for those of you on the left – but WORDS are not violence – actual violence is.
And those of you on the left OWN that.
“ Is anyone actually doing any of this ?
At J6 where there were rhetorical calls to hang mike pence and even a gallows.”
It shows their violent intentions, thoughts.
The right became violent during the J6 riots. If they are this upset about Trump being held accountable it’s very likely they will commit to violence.
“ So we get stupid violent rhetoric from those of you on the left all the time.”
And you still accuse them of being violent. Those on the right are more violent and dangerous.
Because you say so ?
In June 2020. right wing lockdown protestors muched through the MI capitol – by the thousands.
No one was hurt. There was no violence at all.
Several decades ago the nut job extreme right Bundy’s were involved in numerous conflicts with Bureau of LAnd MAnagement and even armed standoffs with FBI. They even took over a bird sancturary that was illegally confiscated from them.
No one what hurt – despite FBI snipers with shoot to kill orders.
And in the long run the lunatic Bundies won most of their cases in Federal court.
Everytime there is a mass shooting – the left and the media jumps to procliam – right wing nut,
only to later discover that we have a Bernie Bro, or an Eco Terrorist or a Jihadi, or a Trans warrior,
We get Swastika’s all over college campuses – when investigated turns out to be left wing nuts.
A bomb was set off at the US capital several decades ago – by left wing nuts.
Before J6 there were kavanaugh protestors – who pput an AQxe through a senators door – and the courts punishment – return the axe.
In June left wing nuts tried to burn down St. Johns near the WH and broke down a WH security fence designed to stand up to a huricane – ro a car plowing through.
Protestors pelted AG Barr and MPD and park police with rocks.
In 2016 Election protests left wing nuts in pussy hats through bricks through windoews in DC and burned out stores.
In portland in 2020 for 100 nights straight there was rioting. Police protecting the courthouse where attacked with molatove cocktails. rocks, lasers trying to blind them, and fireworks – every night.
In Seattle, rioters took over several blocks to the center of the city, Bombed the police station, and killed people in their enclave.
This continued until the left wing nuts running Seattle finally had enough and authorized the police to end the fire fire rape and murder zone in the middle of the city.
And I have Barely started.
Nearly all the political violence in this country is FROM THE LEFT.
George lives in Gigi’s alternate reality, there is no doubt.
Dont forget the lefty nut that shot up a congressional baseball practice.
Because you say so? The right is just as violent or worse. They’ve bombed federal buildings.
Oh “they” did?
Lmao you are pathetic, dude.
Trump Lawyer Nails The Problem
In post-verdict interviews Thursday night, Trump lawyer Todd Blanche offered some conspicuous comments.
Asked on Fox News how involved Trump was in his defense, Blanche said Trump “jokingly said to us a lot, sometimes he wanted to be the litigator — you know, he wanted to be the one that was actually arguing, because he’s a smart guy and he knows what he’s doing.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/31/4-takeaways-aftermath-trumps-guilty-verdict/
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Blanche’s candor here tells us exactly why Trump lost, not just this case, but the Jean Carroll civil suit. Trump is ‘too smart’ for his own good! Guys that ‘smart’ are terrible listeners. They just naturally ‘know more’ than their lawyers.
^^ Paid DNC troll. Ignore. ^^
Blanche’s candor doesn’t explain anything.
It explains everything. Trump loves to micromanage. When things go sideways. He blames others.
So what
So what? Well it’s the reason why he got convicted. He’s an idiot.
To call your thinking circular would be an insult to circles.
WRONG
He got convicted for a lot of reasons, none of which were that.
Is this proclivity to just blurt out stupid shit normal for you, or just a symptom of your TDS?
Have to say, it’s fun watching trumpists here a) be so wrong so often, b) absolutely struggle with the reality of what happened to their cult leader, and c) continue to maintain said leader, while being manifestly unsuitable for the job he was run out of town from having the first time, is somehow worthy of it now even though he’s become more insane.
Stop picking your nose and smearing it on your keyboard, drunktard.
Your nephew wants you to call him back. He doesnt understand why you wont talk to him after cornholing him all night. He said the condom broke, so he is going to get tested to make sure he didnt contract your syphilis.
Sadly, you miss the real point of this trial — Trump or anyone who has the will to go against the Dems is just the picture on the wall to throw darts at. The real substance is power and holding it. Personally, I am not a Trump supporter but now will vote for him; I and others do not belong to a cult — we just plain old common sense people who want to see America strong and prosperous again. If you can really vote for Biden after Afghanistan and the evil that is happening to people on the border, you are part of the problem. There needs to be a reality check about his mental abilities.
Knocking Trump off the ballot is the intent it seems and nothing will stop this madness. Everyone know Biden will not cognitively make it through the next 4 years but evidently, party over country is the issue at hand. It is delusional think otherwise. So perhaps, while you think Trump supporters are part of a cult(!), perhaps you have it wrong — Biden followers are!
New poll finds 49% of independents and 15% of Republicans think Trump should end campaign after conviction.
More bad news for Trump.
Incorrect. Trump’s support has gone UP, and fundraising has exploded.
It’s gone up only within his base. Thats still not a majority of the voters.
Incorrect. It is +6 overall post-conviction.
Your judicial fraud is backfiring.
Listen to yourself you moron
“Trumps support has only gone up within his base”
Is that really possible in your reality, you ignorant fvck???
Does the shit you say have to make any sense at all?
Good god almighty, you are truly GIgi with a penis, although ostensibly it is tiny.
Trump’s base has never really grown beyond the lunatic fringe. Just because they are louder doesn’t mean there are more.
Your hysterical reactions mean it’s the truth. Trump’s base is small. Loud, but small.
You are hysterical, ya looney tune.
You said he only gained support from his base.
Dumbest statement ever. And you still dont get why that statement is dumb
Way to double down on stupid
Einstein George
How can it increase if it only is his base. Any increase would mean the base is expanding
Did you even pass high school?
That was the poll conducted by Mother Jones magazine.
Lmao
So gullible
And this from the douche who claimed polls dont mean anything
Bwahahahahahaha
Did they check their voter registration cards?
52 million and 30% were new donors.
George. You need professional help. Please get it. I am an independent and left the Democratic Party because they have become a regressive illiberal nightmare. I had voted Democrat in every election since I was 18 and first voted. Not anymore cause I’m pissed off. It’s folks like you, George, that have driven the moderates from the D party, and to become independents. And here’s a newsflash George, I’ve never donated to any politician in my entire life and I just sent Donald Trump several hundred dollars. Hugs Georgie 🤔
Turley said it’s “repulsive and chilling” for Trump to be convicted of falsifying business records to hide critical information from voters about his sexual liaisons with a porn actress and nude model after he was caught on a hot mic bragging about sexually assaulting women. These facts were proven by the testimony of insiders: Hope Hicks and David Pecker, who gave the Trump campaign a gift of $150,000 in the form of a payoff to Karen McDougal to “catch and kill “ the fact that she and Trump had a 10-month affair. The legal maximum for a campaign donation is $12,000, so this payment is a violation of campaign law. Trump neither testified personally to refute this evidence nor did he present any other contrary proof. His lawyer did not attack Hicks or Pecker as liars, either.
Somehow, according to Turley, Trump getting indicted and convicted are the BAD things here—not the sexual misconduct, not the payoffs, not the falsification of records, not the misleading of voters to help him win.
What’s even worse is Republicans attacking the rule of law, the Judge, the prosecutor, and the State of New York—not the crimes Trump committed. And why has the Republican Party eschewed its “law and order “ fundamental value? Raw power—they don’t have any other viable candidate, their messages are repugnant to most Americans and they keep losing elections.
Most Americans oppose banning all abortions, cuts to Social Security and Medicare so the wealthiest can get more tax breaks, abolishing the Department of Education, concentration camps for migrants, letting the polluters write executive orders to abolish environmental protections, cutting aid to Ukraine and dropping out of NATO.
Then there’s the fact that Trump took a booming economy and turned it into the worst recession since the Great Depression, he botched COVID, alienated our allies, botched the end of the conflict in Afghanistan with his troop withdrawals and lack of planning for the withdrawal, and brought on inflation with his trade war with China and running the national debt to a record high. According to most historians, he was the worst president in modern history.
The endless lying about the facts of the Trump prosecution and the law, defense of an election cheater, attacks on the rule of law, a judge and prosecutors, rhetoric that is intimidating to future potential jurors in later cases and seeking power to self- pardon for crimes against America–like stealing classified documents and starting an insurrection—-THESE are the things that are truly “repulsive and chilling “ and define a banana republic. And Republicans are all in for it.
Turley has chosen to be part of this and should be ashamed.
Your entire comment is false. None of what you state was proven at trial, and significant doubts were raised that Trump even KNEW Stormy Daniels.
Your continued butchering of facts to fit your narrative is exactly why Turley is so distressed about the judicial system.
Do you still not understand that whether Trump did or didn’t know or have sex with Stormy is irrelevant? She was going public with her story, so he bought her off to keep it quiet and misrepresented the payoff as attorney fees, because the Access Hollywood tape had just become public and a second salacious story might have doomed his candidacy—so testified Hicks. So he falsified business records to help his campaign—to keep voters from learning the truth about him—that is the crime he was convicted of.
And BTW, another golfer who was at the tournament has come forward and says that Trump bragged about nailing a porn star.
Do you still not understand that Trump did not misclassify anything?
He paid “LEGAL FEES” to Michael Cohen, which he was performing. There is no misclassification.
Cohen may have used that money to perform a subsequent transaction, and in the process grossed it up to take $60,000 FOR HIMSELF illegally.
That’s called Grand Larceny.
Why is he not indicted for that? THAT’S A CRIME.
BTW Access Hollywood tape and Hope Hicks testimony (as well as second- and third- hand hearsay) is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING.
You are not only delusional about the facts of this case, you’ve created an entire penumbra of fiction around it leading you to false conclusions throughout.
So GiGi
Didn’t Biden repeatedly lie about his son’s laptop and his participation in selling of the brand? Didn’t Biden do exactly what you are accusing President Trump of doing? Let’s see, Boning a porn star or shaking down foreign adversaries for millions of dollars. Remember, we all have seen that addled old fart bragging about withholding a billion tax dollars for firing a prosecutor investigating Burisma. Come on GiGi, spin it number 3!
How much effort have Republicans spent trying to prove Biden is a crook and have still come up with nothing?
You mean the piles of incriminating evidence of criminal wrongdoing that are already public?
That “nothing” ?
GiGi
I think the banking transactions and the layered LLCs is pretty compelling evidence of Biden’s corruption. I also believe that Hurs report evidenced that Biden stole and mishandled classified documents. Irrefutable proof. Don’t worry though, as President Trump takes office, proof beyond a shadow of a doubt will be revealed on all, the Swamp will be drained.
Gigi cut and pasted every single word of this from a rant she posted several days ago.
It was horse shit then and it still is.
I have Gigi as a solid 3, who is mad at the world because she cant get laid.
Tell us about the 12th amendment again, gigi.
Tell us again that the inflation rate was 8% when trump left office
Tell us again how texas makes electricity with crude oil
Tell us again how many died of covid under trump and under biden
Tell us again who the dcng answers to
And then come up with new material, ya screeching lunatic.
A #2 more like it from the smell of the posts, weighing in at hefty 220# complete with cankles and a Rosie or Whoopi hairdo!
@Gigi
If I didn’t already know you were a troll/unhinged, I might employ a grain of salt. But you are, and have been for years, and no one cares. You are certainly entitled to your boosheet on a free speech blog, but don’t expect a red carpet for your nonsense.
So GiGi
How do you feel about Bill Clinton the accused rapist or Bath house Barry? You did get to see the testimony of Larry Sinclair right or read Barry’s book written by domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. You know where Barry talks about selling a little blow and hanging with his chume gang? Did you have any problems with him giving $80B in cash and precious metals to a declared terrorist Nation Iran during a time of war. A war where they were actively killing American fighting men and women? Cmon #3, enlighten us all!
Trump is a wreck. His rambling press conference at Trump tower. Looked more like a drunkard trying to explain several nonsensical topics in random order.
Trump can’t seem to keep it together. He kept falling asleep in court. But he “knows” everything that went on. Lol sure, sure.
Left-leaning poll still shows him ahead and that his trial was politically motivated and unfair.
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George you are the wreck. We all assume this is the extent of your legal analysis.
Iowan2,
Trump made a rambling nonsense speech. He was haggard looking and looked like he was drunk. He’s losing it.
And biden’s not, right george?
Trump is the magnificent Orange Bastid! He’s got more resolve in his little mushroom toe than you have in your entire body. Hate him or love him he’s a tough sonofabish and he’s not going anywhere till the fight is over. 54M in 24 hrs, that’s 1 million 80K people donating at $50/head. Let’s see the 80M deliver for Biden, ghost votes, paper wo substance.
Bwahahahaha!!!!
YAWN
Open wide sleepy!
“Political prosecutions are something most citizens associate with dictatorships.”
Oh, so does that mean the Hunter Biden prosecutions are unjustified?
It seems like a form of cognitive dissonance.
Do you believe the prosecution of Hunter Biden is political?
Why?
I think the years of inaction and lying [the laptop is Russian disinformation] are purely political.
The Democrats are close to singing The Horst Wessel Lied.
It’s self explanatory. The SC made a deal with him to plead guilty and get off with probation.
Under pressure from Republican legislators the SC reneged on the deal. Can’t get any more political than that.
That is not what happened. Judge got wind of the corrupt prosecution deal to let him off, and put the brakes on.
Hunter has been given very special treatment, and displayed galactic insolence and arrogance when the deal was withdrawn.
Do you still believe the prosecution of Hunter Biden is political?
Why?
No, the judge asked a question that exposed the fact that the SC as still open to investigating Hunter. This was due to the Smirnov allegation that turned out to be a lie. SC Weiss was leaving open the possibility of using Smirnov’s testimony to prosecute Hunter. Obviously that fell apart spectacularly. Republicans pressured Weiss to press charges he was not originally going to file.
The SC reneged on the deal.
Incorrect, the judge discovered that there was a sub rosa arrangement between prosecution and defendant counsel that she was not informed of, that let Hunter off the hook for documented extreme violations.
Republicans only started to show interest once the judge had already paused the proceeding, and rightly so – the deal was illegal.
Once again, do you still believe the prosecution of Hunter Biden is political?
Why?
No,
The judge became aware that Weiss still left open the possibility of investigating Hunter because he had been investigating Smirnov. The deal was not going to end the Hunter Biden issue if Weiss kept the option open to investigate Hunter upon Smirnov’s testimony. When that collapsed. Weiss got pressured by republicans to charge Hunter. That’s political prosecution.
Completely wrong, again.
Weiss was doing everything in his power to get Hunter off the hook, and the judge caught on.
Weiss is himself going to face prison time for his actions here.
Hunter was and is being given extraordinary treatment because he is the criminal president’s son.
Your inability to grasp basic facts and timeline shows exactly why so many of you are headed to prison for your perversion of the legal system.
No, Weiss did not have enough evidence to ensure a conviction. He did what any prosecutor does. Make a deal.
“Weiss is himself going to face prison time for his actions here.”
LOL! No he won’t.
Your revenge soiled mind is making a fool of you.
You would argue an apple is an orange because Trump told you.
Don’t trust a convicted felon.
Entirely wrong again.
Weiss not only had enough evidence, he was trying to bury some of it.
THAT is why Weiss will be prosecuted.
Your inability to grasp basic facts and distort reality shows exactly why so many of you are headed to prison for your perversion of the legal system.
Lmao what an utter 180 degree distortion of the truth.
The judged called out the gov’t for the unprecedented sweetheart deal and HUNTER reneged
<I reject your reality and substitute my own
——New George the Moron
George, please do tell us why the special Counsel let $10’s of millions of unpaid taxes toll on his watch. I mean the Special Counsel was in office because Trump appointed him, the Trump Special Counsel created a plea deal that was so outside the bounds of Law, a simple question of the Judge, blew up the whole deal, because the Trump special counsel could not defend their actions
Trump didn’t appoint the SC, Barr appointed the SC. They are both Swamp creatures, deep state bureaucrats unelected bureaucrats that serve themselves by doing the bidding for the highest bidder.
Traveler, I was exagerating, because the first thing the radical leftist bring up is TRUMP is the one that hired Weiss.
Ignoring the Trump followed norms and traditions by appointing State USAG nominated be the Senators of that State. Wiess is an leftist insider.
Iowan2,
“George, please do tell us why the special Counsel let $10’s of millions of unpaid taxes toll on his watch.”
Tens of millions? No. It was $4 million and they were paid. That’s why Weiss couldn’t charge him.
The plea deal was not unusual. Weiss knew he didn’t have an airtight case against Hunter. But republicans pressured Weiss to come criminal charges. Now we will find out why Weiss will not get a conviction.
George the Moron thinks its not unusual to get immunity from all future discovered crimes in exchange for a plea deal on tax crimes.
Sincerely dude, you are Gigi with a dick, albeit ostensibly tiny.
George, your not even trying.
The point you ignored. Tell us WHY the Hunter prosecution was political? Because the investigation was sandbaged by Biden toadies.
I think I have decided to boycott New York, the entire state, not just the crime and Nazi infested city.
I was hoping to spend time this summer in upstate NY which is beautiful and historic and perhaps I would find time to walk the Saratoga battlefield. Surely I hoped to stay near Lake Champlain and revisit Fort Ticonderoga where my ancestor was posted during the Revolutionary War.
But no American should choose to spend any discretionary money there. It would be too much like vacationing in pretty parts of Nazi Germany before the war.
Young, you might like to visit Halifax and then north to Cape Breton Island. I did.
Davud, Thanks, I might. More beauty and history combined.
Yes re: Samuel Chase and political prosecutions, Alien and Sedition Acts.
No re: McCarthy – McCarthy was exactly right about communist infiltration of government – we’re living the consequences of that here.
The relative size and extreme power of our government now makes this current situation orders of magnitude more dangerous.
I say divest from NY State: https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/a-letter-to-governors
Juanito Merchan
Magistrado Corrupto Del Cartel
Narcocracy De Banana Republic
Medellín, Columbia
Mr Turley sir
CITIZENS GRAND JURY
This is the reason
LAWUNFARE has happened
1947 The political bands changed a rule
Simple in its design
The CITZENS Were in control of the district attorney
The questions,the facts ,the person who may have committed a CRIME
All had to come and Talk to the GRAND JURY of CITZENS
Who were INVESTED in law an order
Today the saying a ham sandwich can be indicated is a REALITY
1947 the house of representative were investigating
PEARL HARBOR
MR TURLEY look this UP
My guess is YOU didn’t know this FACT
My fellow Americans a republic if you can keep it
CITZENS GRAND JURY
Was the CHECK on the POLITCAL bandits
TODAY THE CONSTITUTION has no teeth ,no bite ,NO LAW And ORDER
No amount of Common Sense can can RIGHT THIS WRONG
Our Constitution works only for a
MORAL PEOPLE
And when morals fail and bandits can declare they are the LAW
Slavery ,tyrants,TYRANNY rule the land
EVIL become the master