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Is Hunter Biden Pursuing a Jury Nullification Strategy?

Below is my column in The Hill on the start of the Hunter Biden trial and the elements of a classic jury nullification strategy by the defense. It is not clear that it will work in an otherwise open-and-shut case, but it might. What is clear is that it may be all that Biden has short of the Rapture.

Here is the column:

There was an interesting development this week in the Hunter Biden gun trial: the fact that there will indeed be a Hunter Biden gun trial.

That development is surprising only because there do not appear to be any facts in dispute in this case. And the primary witness against Hunter Biden will be Hunter Biden himself.

The sole issue in this case is whether Biden filed a false gun form (ATF Form 4473) in which, as a condition for his purchase of a .38-caliber Colt Cobra revolver from the StarQuest Shooters and Survival Supply in Wilmington, Del., he stated that he was not a user of drugs.

Biden’s counsel, Abbe Lowell, previously suggested that his client may have had a window of sobriety when he signed the form, but then returned to his addiction afterward. But then Hunter himself blew that theory away with his public comments and books. Lowell then suggested in court that someone else may have checked the box on the form.

In the interim, Lowell has brought a litany of challenges. At one point, he claimed that the government must fulfill a prior dead plea agreement. At another, he adopted an argument of the National Rifle Association challenging the underlying statute.

The defense also failed this week to call a last-minute witness who would testify that Hunter may not have known that he was an addict. The defense was accused of essentially hiding the ball with the expert’s expected testimony so Judge Maryellen Noreika barred the appearance of the Columbia professor.

Yet, again, Hunter Biden himself would have destroyed the defense. The form asks if Hunter was a user of drugs, not just an addict: “Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?”

Hunter wrote how he was a user of a wide array of drugs for years. It is hard to imagine he thought himself as clean as a clergyman in Wilmington in 2018.

So why wouldn’t Hunter just plead guilty? Even without his earlier plea deal, a guilty plea could significantly reinforce a request to avoid jail time in the case. It would also avoid an embarrassing trial for himself and his father during a presidential election.

While Hunter could always throw in the towel before the start of testimony, there is currently no discernible strategy beyond hoping that a pending case in the Supreme Court might undermine the indictment.

There may also be another possible strategy in play: jury nullification.

Unlike Donald Trump in Manhattan, Delaware is Biden country. The chance that he will get strong supporters of his father on the jury is an almost statistical certainty. In 2020, Joe Biden received roughly 60 percent of the vote over Donald Trump in the state. Having first lady Jill Biden, who is extremely popular, at the trial will only reinforce the connection.

In addition to a favorable jury pool, Biden may be hoping that testimony on his travails with drugs will prompt one or more jurors to ignore the law and vote to acquit. Notably, virtually all of the selected jurors have said that they know of someone who has struggled with drugs.

Indeed, Judge Noreika already appears to suspect such a strategy. Noreika rejected the effort of the defense to introduce an altered version of the federal firearms form created by the gun store employees. They argue that the alteration showed a political bias on the part of the prosecutors. The court found the document “irrelevant” and chastised the defense team for pursuing “conspiratorial” theories and an effort to confuse or mislead the jury.

She noted that the use of the altered form would be “unduly prejudicial and invites (jury) nullification.”

Jury nullification arguments have long been banned or discouraged in many courtrooms. Nevertheless, jury nullification has its advocates. For example, Georgetown Law Professor Paul Butler has called for Black jurors to refuse to convict Black defendants of drug crimes. Butler has said that “my goal is the subversion of the present criminal justice system.”

Hunter Biden is obviously not the primary concern of Professor Butler in the impact of drug prosecutions on the Black community. However, he has also argued that “jury nullification is just part of an arsenal of tools to end the failed “war on drugs.”

Biden’s case has all of the characteristics of a nullification defense. Even if he cannot secure acquittal, the combination of political and social elements at play in Delaware could produce a hung jury.

Trying a Biden in Delaware is a challenge for any prosecutor, even without the potential sympathies for a reformed drug addict. With the first lady sitting behind him, the family ties will be on full display. There is an understandable parental desire to show emotional support for Hunter, but prosecutors cannot be thrilled by the potential effect on jurors in the pro-Biden state.

Wilmington is President Biden’s hometown, where he still maintains a family residence. In Wilmington itself in 2020, Biden received 26,698 votes to Trump’s 3,580.

The hope is that, as President Biden once said, “Delaware is about getting everyone in the room, no matter how tough the problem, no matter how big the disagreement, and staying in the room until we figure it out.” Most everyone is in the courtroom and the hope is that at least some of these jurors will “figure it out” in their favor.

Perhaps Hunter put it best: “The single best thing is, family comes first. Over everything. I can’t think of anything that has been more pervasive and played a larger part in my life than that simple lesson.”

The defense may be hoping that, for some jurors, “family [will] come first … over everything,” particularly over the evidence.

Jonathan Turley is the J.B. and Maurice C. Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at the George Washington University Law School.

290 thoughts on “Is Hunter Biden Pursuing a Jury Nullification Strategy?”

  1. Would you please wake up and see the truth? Nothing is going to happen to the child molesting crackhead no matter what he does. The rule of law is dead in this country.

  2. AI Jury selection tools currently used by prosecutors could very well be tuned to select a jury more likely to convict a defendant. The same AI tools, if given certain parameters, could also be used to select a jury pool that favors the defendant. Imagine if you could taint the jury pool with people who would not only know about jury nullification, but also be more likely to nullify as a jury member in the Hunter Biden trial?
    https://toresays.com/2023/04/05/president-trumps-indictment-and-jury-was-ai-generated/

    “… The drama surrounding President Donald J. Trump’s persecution is a real eye-opener that should make every person on this planet tremble with fear. With AI, there’s no such thing as ethics, culture, or flexibility in decision-making unless it serves the program’s main objective. We all know that the last thing the world needs is more AI tools that spread misinformation, biased responses, and compromise consumer privacy. As if we don’t have enough of those already, right?

    This is the REAL story and should concern everyone. You never know when you might need a job, a loan, or even find yourself in the crosshairs of a prosecutor for something as simple as a car accident or an honest mistake. Unfortunately, from the moment you step into the courtroom, you’re already at a disadvantage with a jury and prosecutor who are already “programmed” to ensure that you’re found guilty, regardless of whether you’re innocent or not. It’s scary to think that I, as an AI, can access John Doe’s social media, banking, texts, emails, calls, voice transcripts, videos, biometrics, health records, and anything else that government and consumer agencies are already documenting, and use it to prosecute him for anything. Every single one of you can be placed in a box. And with the power of quantum computing, the odds will be stacked against you, and your chances of winning are slim to none. This is a horrific assault on our justice system, and the future of our nation looks bleak if this is the normal practice of people in power to persecute those they don’t like.… “

    1. Quoting Blackstone in 1769: “the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer (innocent person be convicted).” I believe many of the Founders, Framers and Ratifiers agreed, including Thomas Jefferson.

  3. All he has left is a Jury Nullification prayer…
    It would be sort of a desecration of that storied, noble institution of our legal system’s “grassroots check-and-balance” bulwark against tyranny and government overreach: The same Jury Nullification tool in the hand of Northern antebellum jurors who refused to convict harborers of escaped slaves for violating the Fugitive Slave Act. Or utilized by jurors following their consciences in acquitting draft-dodgers during the Vietnam War. Or people on trial for recreational drug use. Or the case that tarted it all: the jury in 1670 England that refused to convict William Penn of unlawful religious assembly (the OG of Jury Nullification—the case that established its legitimacy, and the raison d’etre for the right of trial by jury).
    Still, JN does apply here, as it does wherever there is a “victimless crime,” or in the eyes of any juror, an unjust or immoral law, or simply because this one, solitary defendant before them will be punished, in their estimation, in an unduly harsh manner.
    LONG LIVE JURY NULLIFICATION—POWER TO THE PEOPLE.

  4. Let me go on
    Like I blister in the sun
    Let me go on
    Big hands, I know you’re the one

    I guess you dont remember telling us before you were banned that you had “unusually large hands”, Elvis

    Outed.

    “Ooooh i have so much fun licking the taint of MAGA morons”——Lawn Boy Elvis Bug

    1. Jury nullification is obstruction lot of places -] but God faith d da fence of rights by defendents is nit obstruction – so hunter needs to challenge 9 9 9 fed laws bs they treat – ask for perjury – ask for 5th – ask for to much – but self incriminating mostly to carry out an otherwise fundamental right. I hope hunter wins. Bc no American should have to retain counsel to see if they have a fundamental right. That they fill out a form right. And Jesse interpret right! I’m advocating for hunter Biden- against the trap forms and for our fundamental rights. We can’t have a system that says yeah your right I drank too much last night take my guns of self defense and let the not so honest really bad guys waltz in . Stupid. So again I believes before the atf et al go after hunter- they’ve dis armed everyone else ? Didn’t- haven’t- I’d prefer hunter Biden armed. He’s in my generation who needs to fight for our life foe America-

  6. Speaking about the odds of Joe enforcing his new border EO, Senator Joni Ernst said

    “Never trust a man who’s uncle was eaten by cannibals”

    Senator John Kennedy spewed his coffee.

    When asked what his uncle said when he was placed in the pot, Joe replied that Uncle Biden looked at the chief and said one word. “Don’t”

  7. Homefield advantage in NY against Trump, homefield advantage in DE for the Biden.

      1. No, you should be locked up too since you obviously enjoy prison sex.

    3. Imagine an oval office set up in Rikers Island!

      Maybe they can borrow the fake one they had set up for Joe, that had its own adult diaper changing station

  9. Professor Turley Writes:

    “With the first lady sitting behind him–
    …………………………………..

    Speaking of first ladies, why wasn’t Melania sitting behind Donald during trial?

    Perhaps the payments to a porno star and Playboy model would’ve been too much for Melania to sit through.

    1. Melania had better things to do,, dip shit

      Jill mashed up Joe’s squash and banana’s before she left for the day.

      Bwahahahaha the low IQ dorks just never see it coming.

  10. Professor Turley Writes:

    Unlike Donald Trump in Manhattan, Delaware is Biden country.
    ………………………………

    Here Turley attempts to fool the readers. As though Manhattan hasn’t been Trump’s primary residence for the last 50 years.

    Trump was one of New York’s best-liked natives for several decades. If Trump has fallen so out of favor he can’t get a fair trial in New York, that’s a major failing on his part.

    Though Trump didn’t help his case by constantly attacking the judge and prosecutors; nor did his snoozing during trial.

    1. That waskally tuwley, twyin’ to fool da weaders.

      Idiot

      What stage of sleep was Trump in, retard?

  11. Bill Maher today on MSNBC talking to Rachel Maddow

    “You’re frankly, an ignorant kunt, and you’ve helped push the democrat party over the cliff. Trump is going to win, and honestly, thats not the worst thing that could happen. Dementia Joe dying 2 months in and Kameltoe taking over is the most frightening prospect”

    2. Why do you MAGA morons obsess over misogynistic smears, genitalia, pedophilia, and homosexual acts? What drives your hatred?

      1. “What drives your hatred?”

        YOU DO!

        Omg, has anyone ever been less self aware than your dumb ass??

        I would love to see you say that “MAGA cultist, MAGA morons, etc” shit to my face Gigi.

        Then I would gladly call you a kunt to your face.

        And if you were half the kunt in person that you are on this blog, i’m surprised some “maga moron” hasn’t stomped a mud hole in your ass.

      2. Seriously, you dumb bltch, when you are conversing with others in person, do you act as fvcking ridiculous as you do here?

        Do you screech your nonsense like “inflation was 8% when trump left office” and trump caused covid and trump killed millions etc? Does that crap fly in normal conversation, or do you reserve that garbage behavior for here?

        You have no high ground here, so stop trying to grab it. You act like a low life every day. Would your mother be proud of your posts here?? The way you talk to Turley, a man clearly your intellectual AND accomplishment superior?

        Go Get laid and come back when YOU have had a change of attitude.

      3. Sigmund Freud explains this behavior as fixation at the anal stage of psychological development. This stage occurs at 1 to 3 years of age when the child becomes aware of bodily functions and normally learns to control those functions in potty training. Some individuals become trapped in this stage of development and develop an anal-expulsive personality disorder. I think this term is self-explanatory. They are obsessed with bodily functions. They tend to be messy, disorganized, and rebellious.

        I think this accounts for the typical MAGA personality.

        1. “I think…”

          And there you have it.

          We know thats not true.

          Freud said that libtards like to fixate on MAGA anus,

          (Insert 3 paragraphs no one will read)

          I think this explains you.

        2. Maga retards are fixated on their creampie flowing out of your lefty anus

          Good boy for taking it so well, hardly a whimper.

          1. Ah yes. There we have it.

            This response definitely proves my point.

            No further explanation needed.

            Thank you so much for making my point for me !!!

            1. So you admit you like mAGA creampie in your shit hole!

              Thanks for proving my point.

              Good boy.

                1. Dont thank me, my dick wasnt in your shit hole. It was some mAga moron.

                  1. OK, well then thank all you MAGA morons for splitting my ass hole wide open and allowing me to drink the creampie.

                  2. This is truly amazing proof !!!

                    You people simply cannot control yourselves.

                    1. I’m just happy that you thanked all the MAGA morons for cornholing you. It shows there is hope for you.

                      And you keep posting, somehow thinking that saying, i love you posting, will stop them from posting.

                      Have another sip, drunktard. And go on like a bluster in the so , big hands.

                    2. There you did it again!! Truly amazing!! You cant resist

                      But thanks again for tearing my little taint! I REALLY enjoyed that, MAGA moron.

                    3. I told you, it wasnt me bro. But i am bored with you again. Put some salve on that. It will feel better in the morning.

  12. Trey Gowdy on Fox today about Hunter Biden charges:

    I did gun prosecutions for 6 years … I bet you there weren’t 10 cases prosecuted nationwide of addicts or unlawful drugs users who possessed firearms or lied on applications … which makes you wonder, why are they pursuing this one?”

    1. And he didn’t even mention that each one of those had a substantive charge accompanying it.

      None were just not checking off a box, because nobody can find such a case ever being federally prosecuted.

      1. What kind of moron thinks this was a box that wasnt checked???

        Are you Dennis’s 11 year old nephew?? The one he brags about cornholing?

        1. Is this the booger eater again?? How many more replies to your own posts this time, drunktard?

    2. There were 563 in 2022

      297 in 2019

      Next?

      First time Trey Gowdy has ever been wrong.

      Read more, post less, ignorant douchebag.

      1. Trey Gowdy is WRONG !!!!!

        Surely you jest ???

        How can that be ????

        I always he thought he was infallible !!!

        1. So you say. I wont argue with that. You must have lied about what he said then.

    3. Keep it up, fvcktard. You and i are working to the same end. The day Turley puts this behind a paywall and rids the site of shit eating diaper heads like you.

    4. What’s been happening at FOX?
      This sounds like a well articulated opinion based on his own personal knowledge in this area.
      And it appears to be credible.
      From Trey Gowdy!!

      3. Far be it from me, an unattractive person, to comment on another’s physical appearance, but I must:

        Trey Gowdy actually styles his hair to make his head look pointy.

        Most MAGA folk wear those red hats to disguise their pointy heads and tin foil.

        1. Dont sugar coat it, Lawn Boy. You are ugly as fvck.

          And you are a drunken, booger eating, nephew cornholing, syphilis infested pedophile, who enjoys eating the peanuts out of Dennis McInlyre’s shit.

          We get it already, you have a crush on Trey Gowdy

      4. Somebody finally squeezed his head into a shape that’s able to have a cognizant thought.

    5. The only reason is because the sweetheart deal that fell thru several months back embarrassed the half ass prosecutor and he just had to do something to show “nobody is above the law”. It will be instructive to see how forcefully he prosecutes this case after letting Hunter slide for the past 5 years and more.

  13. NYPD preparing to revoke Donald Trump’s license to carry a gun after felony conviction in New York

    2. This shouldn’t make a difference.

      From what Stormy told us, Trump isn’t really packing much anyway

      1. You do know he has a secret service detail, right freak??

        Lmao

        1. What does that have to do with the fact that he has a gun license ???

          1. It means he dont need a gun, freak.

            Or thats what it means to any booger chomping, shit eating pedophile who’s brain is NOT eaten up with syphilis.

            That explains your confusion.

            1. That’s great that he doesn’t need a gun !!!!!

              The real question is “does he WANT a gun”, not whether he NEEDS a gun.

              I am sure that he is absolutely delighted that his license is revoked and he had to turn in his guns.

              1. Yes, fool, he could barely sleep in court, he was so concerned about it.

                LMAO at the things you idiots fantasize about.

                Next?

              2. I think he really does want to have his guns.

                Just like you MAGA morons he derives great comfort from his guns, because they compensate for his teeny, tiny, little hands, if you catch my meaning !!!!

                1. What i catch is you fantasizing that i care if trump has a small dick, or am bothered by you fantasizing about it. Dont get much else from that, sorry.

                  My guess is you have tiny hands too. And nowhere else to out your small dick.

                  Next?

                  1. Actually, I have unusually large hands, and I have never felt the need to own a gun.

                    Scientific studies have conclusively shown that the smaller your hands are, the more guns you are likely to own.

                    How many guns do you own ???

                    1. 350

                      Guess that means i have no hands.

                      Might wanna study outside your shit tube next time, big hands.

                      And this |————| is 6 inches, right?

                      Studies show that people who claim to have unusually large hands, 100% have a micro-penis

                      Your anal-ytics are faulty.

                    2. What you say about people who “CLAIM” to have unusually large hands may be true.

                      However, I do not “CLAIM” to have unusually large hands.

                      I really do have unusually large hands !!!!

                    3. Studies show that people who say “i dont claim to have unusually large hands, i actually have unusually large hands, are likely to have no penis at all, and if they do, it’s an innie.

                      Poor Elvis, he has an innie and his fat fingers are too big to pull it out.

                    4. I thought we were talking about hands !!!

                      Why are you obsessing about your penis ???

                      Feeling a little insecure perhaps ????

                    5. Lets face it my friend, you are an intellectual pygmy.

                      I could go on humiliating you all night, but I am starting to get bored, and it is past my bedtime.

                      Have a good night, pleasant dreams, and try not to worry about the size of your hands !!!!

                    6. First sign of failing campaign, having to announce that you are “winning”

                      Bwahahahahaha

                      Yawn

            1. He signed off for the night finally, after admitting he had an innie for a penis.

          7. Nothing funnier than a guy who thinks we are laughing with him and not at him.

            1. You are entirely missing the point !!!

              I am laughing AT YOU !!!

              You MAGA morons are so predictable, you can’t resist being baited. You never fail to take the bait with absurd responses.

              This is so much fun !!!

              1. No, you are the one wearing the diaper on your head and being laughed at. You are making an effort. Chasing all over the internet to try to prove a point that no one cares about. The mere idea that you think they do says it all. All i did was say NOPE and you jumped thru your ass hole.

                Read the room, idiot. Read the room.

                1. Proving my point again.

                  You are totally incapable of resisting the urge to respond to my baiting.

                  This is so much fun !!!!

                  1. I absolutely love that this guy has punk’d you to chase round Good Hope, and round the Horn, and round the Norway Maelstrom, and round perdition’s flames, for something no ones gives a rats ass about

                    Bwahahahaha

                    Pinhead goofball libtard freak!!

                    Resist??? I look forward to it.

                    2. “It really is great fun !!!”

                      Probably the most fun you have outside of being cornholed by your uncle Dennis.

                      Seems the only thing you like more than a creampie from uncle denny, is posting brain dead. Nonsense here. You go boy!

                      Bwahahahahaha

    3. Are his businesses in New Jersey & Florida allowed to have liquor licenses, given that he’s a convicted felon?

      1. I bet it really galled you earlier that i was using your “diaper head” and “sit and spin” stuff earlier, and you could say anything without outing yourself. Not being able to use magat must have been tough to.

        Lmao at you, ya pathetic drunk

    4. Here is that idiot douchebag, nephew cornholing booger eater back with more of his 3rd stage syphilis rants, replying to his own retarded posts with more retarded posts

      The coward wont admit he is none other that Lawn Boy Elvis Bug.

      Its just a coincidence that bug face isnt posting these days.

            1. 3 false stories because trump doesnt have a ny pistol license.

              Next

              Have another booger.

            2. The city of ny does not issue pistol permits. The county does

              Freak

              1. The county may issue permits, but NYPD is the law enforcement agency.

                Based on “multiple law enforcement sources,” the network reported that Mr. Trump has had the license for more than a decade.

                Two of the three guns he had a license to carry were turned over to the NYPD and a third “lawfully moved to Florida,”

                Now that Mr. Trump has been convicted on felony charges, the NYPD’s Legal Bureau will soon finish an investigation “that will likely lead to revocation of his license,” the senior police official said.

                1. Nope. Just more quotes from horse shit sources.

                  What is his permit number? There are 628 Donald Trumps in the US, 76 of which live in new york and 18 in new york county.

                  The issuing authority, obviously, is the only authority that can revoke, but thanks for playing, freak.

                  1. Trump has had the license for more than a decade but, because he was a public figure, was able to request confidentiality

                2. I absolutely love that this guy has punk’d you to chase round Good Hope, and round the Horn, and round the Norway Maelstrom, and round perdition’s flames, for something no ones gives a rats ass about

                  Bwahahahaha

                  Pinhead goofball libtard freak!!

                    4. You just made my point !!!

                      You simply can’t resist responding.

                      This is so much fun !!!

                    5. Resist responding. Why would i? You lack discernment, little boy. You got punk’d because of it and now u are looking even more foolish. Too dumb to skulk away when you’re down.

                      So you’re having fun, and i’m having fun. What do you think rest of the room is like? You do realize its just me, right lawn boy? Everyone else is just laughing at you.

                    6. Proving my point yet again !!!

                      It is hard to believe that its possible to have so much fun !!!

                    7. Keep proving my point.

                      Punk’d and mad about it. So you keep posting nonsense.

                      Sit and seethe, diaper head.

                    8. But honestly bro, you are boring the fvck out of me now, with this low IQ shit.

                      I’m good with juvenile, but you lose me 3 posts in a row of pure brain dead repetition.

                      Good job on looking all that stuff up earlier. I mean it. You’re a trooper, even if bot so bright.

                      Bwahahahahaha

                    9. This is absolutely amazing !!!

                      Almost beyond belief !!!!

                      You really are incapable of resisting the urge to respond !!!

                      So much fun !!!!

  14. The AP is reporting white-washing:

    WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — Hunter Biden’s ex-wife and a former girlfriend testified Wednesday in his gun trial about finding his crack pipes and other drug paraphernalia, and jurors saw photos of the president’s son bare-chested in a bubble bath and heard about his visit to a strip club.

    https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-trial-family-testimony-gun-charges-17e671d16f7b06b04b4e3b538f911d07

    It is odd that the Left MSM enjoy shoving down the throats of Americans kiddy porn, Trans folk who cut off their breasts and shoot testosterone to grow chest hair, and flash it every opportunity they get to demonstrate their male-ness, broadcast video recordings of children putting dollar bills in the G-strings of “drag” performers with signs stating “it’s not going to lick itself”, and yet the AP is strained to characterize Hunter Biden as having a bubble bath. Apparently the AP is independently wealthy, unlike Washington Post, that it has little regard for reporting facts instead of spinning them

    Pravda taught them a great deal in sugar coating criminal activity committed by Communist leaders

  15. You don’t get it. Felons are not prohibited from purchasing a gun, even domestic abusers.
    ——George, the Moron Formerly Known As Svelaz

    Now, felony domestic abuse is a non-violent crime, according to our resident Constitutional scholar.

    Care to retract, or double down on stupid again, Svelaz?

    1. Waters, for the last time. I’m not Svelaz. You must have really been irked by that person.

      It’s clear you keep changing what i have said because you cannot hold a rational discussion.

      1. Like i said. A liar and a coward.

        Just admit bro. Darren’s not watching.

        Just like Svelaz, always assuming the opposite of the truth. I love this. Its my pleasure.

        Deny your own words. Another svelaz trait

        1. Waters,

          Someone having an opposing or contrary view is good for rational discourse. An echo chamber where nobody’s views are challenged has no value. That’s how conspiracy theory sites devolve into cesspools of ignorance.

          All you offer is foul mouthed personal attacks and insults to denigrate someone else’s point of view instead of offering a rational and logical response.

          1. Crybaby. Another Svelaz trait.

            Rationalizing his contrarian bull shit with zero support also a Svelaz tactic.

            Stick to the question. Is domestic violent felony disqualifying for gun ownership under the current laws?
            Let me save you the mealy mouth dog shit. It is. Res ipsa loquitor

            Obfuscating, deflecting, lying, bull shitting is not “offering another viewpoint”, kunt. And as long as you continue that behavior here, i will foul mouth you to death. Admit when you are wrong. You are, a lot.

            I dont agree with a lot of opinion here, of the “MAGA crowd”, but i dont dispute their opinions with my opinion, and purport it as fact. You do. A lot.

            “Gun dealers are unscrupulous”

            Really, how many?

            “Well, a lot”

            Really, how many is a lot?

            “I dont know, but here is an article from Vox that says it is a lot”

            Just one example of your horse manure, Svelaz.

            I know exactly where you read that prosecuting atf form violations is rare. Then you got the truth shoved up your nose, and made up a statistic that doesnt exist.

            Here you gaslight that you are saving Turleys blog from becoming a cesspool of conspiracy theories. This site was fine after you were banned and it will. be fine when you are banned again, Svelaz.

            And you will get no moral high ground ceded so long as you continue to lie about who you are.

            Svelaz also refused to answer questions about statements he made, just moving on to the next lie.
            So, Mr “I’M here to save the site with my enlightened views”,
            I ask you for the tenth time:

            Please define “willful denial” and “convicted felon”.

    2. I didnt change anything liar. I cut and pasted that from your post.

      1. Waters,

        You’re intentionally putting words into my mouth.

        “Now, felony domestic abuse is a non-violent crime, according to our resident Constitutional scholar.”

        That’s not what said. I never said “felony domestic abuse”. That has a specific meaning that is different than “domestic abuse”. Domestic abuse does not have be about violence. Just like the difference between a violent felony and nonviolent felony.

        I don’t expect you to care about the differences. Because you don’t care. You’re more comfortable hurling insults and lobbing personal attacks because it’s easier than having a rational discussion.

        1. Trying to backtrack on what you said when proven wrong. Another dead giveaway Svelaz.

          “You’re intentionally putting words into my mouth.”

          This is what you said and i quote

          You don’t get it. Felons are not prohibited from purchasing a gun, even domestic abusers.

          YOU said that. Not me.

          Its not a “reading comprehension” problem jack ass, as you often disingenuously offer. Its a too much caffeine; you cant wait to say something stupid problem.
          It was obvious today you were learning on the fly, looking up stuff you should know BEFORE you open your big mouth.

          You start with a conclusion (usually one you read in a rag), and look for evidence to support it. Thats a faulty way to find truth. Good luck doing better with that, cuz i am gonna be up your ass until you do, foul mouth and all.

  16. joe biden has given his warning: “No one f–ks with a Biden,”

  17. Is there anyone here who doubts that New George the Moron is Svelaz?

    Estovir, please pass this along to Darren, so he can ban the IP that Svelaz is now using, as well.

    1. He has the exact same schedule as Svelaz. Every Day. Heavy in the morning, then periodically later in the day.

    2. He uses the exact same syntax and phrasing as Svelaz in his posts.

    3. He makes the exact same criticisms of Turley, but never specifies his claims

    4. When challenged on his sources, he tells others to look it up themselves. Yet quick to ask someone else to cite or post a link. Just like Svelaz

    5. When pressed for specific citations, he posts links and misrepresents what is in the links
    His references to the 5th circuit in the marijuana case are EXACTLY like his references to McDonnell when he was Svelaz. Claiming it did something that it did NOT do, over and over again, despite being corrected on it

    6. When cornered, he resorts to “you have reading comprehension issues” randomly, even when he has made no assertion otherwise.

    7. When cornered, he uses the “all you have is insults” defense

    8. He makes spurious claims with zero supporting evidence, and tells someone to “disprove it” when asked for evidence.

    9. Today he showed that he has a hard time with someone holding him to specifics. A dead on Svelaz trait.

    10. Words and their meanings meant nothing to Svelaz either.

    11. Svelaz also LOVED to make predictions, and then criticize Turley for doing it.

    12. Svelaz also defended his exaggerations and hyperbole as just harmless “rhetoric”, while accusing turley of the same.

    14. Svelaz also posted links to and gave updates from this live blog that George uses.

    If i go back and repost all of the Svelaz entries in the Lefty Turd Farm, it will be apparent that he and George are one and the same.

    Predictably, he will lie and act like a fvxking coward, and not admit it. But its a fact. George the Moron is Svelaz.

    1. Dont forget how he loves to run around responding to everyones post in the morning, and every post he starts in his own is directed at Turley.

      And isnt it a coincidence that not long after Svelaz is booted, another lefty comes along, out of the blue, never posted before, with ALL this time on his hands and starts posting EXACTLY like Svelaz. Gotta take the opposing view on everything, literally even the silliest crap thats indisputable.

      I think you are right.

    2. If i may

      16. “You’re struggling”

      Another Svelaz favorite.

      17. “You’re confused”

      Another Svelaz favorite

      Yep, its him.

      1. In the interest of free speech and fairness, it’s time for Professor Turley and Darren to end the lengthy blog ban of Svelaz and Jeff Silberman.

        1. Svelaz is here. Alias is george

          Silberman is somewhere licking his own balls

          1. Whoever this Svelaz individual was is certainly someone who got under some commenters thin skin.

            Sorry Waters, but I’m not Svelaz. You seem to be obsessed with this individual.

            1. Look svelaz, dennis likes your comment.

              Svelaz liked to use the third person passive aggressive crap too.

              Its him alright. Go get him, Tom!

            2. “Whoever this Svelaz individual was “

              George, seriously, give it up dude. You are outed. Are you saying you’ve never read any of Turley’s blogs before you started posting? Thats pretty irresponsible if true.

              Svelaz is legend here. He posted under another name before that. I find it hard to believe you dont know who he is. It would have been better if you hadnt pretended not to know.

              Methinks thou doth protest too much.

  18. OT, ah! This is why our leftist friends and trolls are so proliferate today. They are trying to deflect from the WSJ article, Behind Closed Doors, Biden Shows Signs of Slipping
    “Participants in meetings said the 81-year-old president performed poorly at times. The White House said Biden is sharp and his critics are playing partisan politics.”
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/joe-biden-age-election-2024-8ee15246?mod=hp_lead_pos7

    Behind a paywall, but you can get the idea from,

    The TIME Magazine reporter who interviewed Biden *could not have been more vague* when asked how Biden seemed during their interview — as questions swirl around Biden’s noticeable cognitive decline pic.twitter.com/sUBhTMc8vL
    — RNC Research (@RNCResearch) June 5, 2024

    Front page of @WSJ confirming, as politely as possible, that Biden’s apparent decline is real—and serious. pic.twitter.com/ENIB3dJwH3
    — Edward Snowden (@Snowden) June 5, 2024

  19. Hunter Biden’s ex-wife testified Hunter Biden knowingly lied about his drug use on screening paperwork when he purchased a revolver in October 2018.

    1. Buh buh the markings on the form. Buh buh buh the 5th circuit. Buh buh buh the chain of custody.

      “They got nothing but false facts”
      ——-Abbe Lowell

      “Felons can purchase guns, why can’t drug users?” George-Svelaz

        1. Is that what we are supposed to do, be honest?
          FIIK

        2. Not what you said.

          Shall i link to your post and quote it here?

  20. JT seems to think the federal prosecutors will be disappointed with an acquittal or hung jury. Just the opposite. These prosecutors are from the same office that cooked up the sweetest sweetheart plea deal in recorded history, which only broke down when Hunter’s lawyers objected at the plea hearing to having some of the honey taken back, like Hunter’s immunity from prosecution for any future crime, forever and ever, amen.

    Weiss’s prosecutors hope for and fully expect at least a hung jury, after which Weiss can elect not to retry the case.

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