Below is my column in The Hill on the latest calls to protect democracy with distinctly undemocratic measures. Former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton insisted that the 2024 election was our D-Day, suggesting that voters would have to fight the GOP like the Nazis in World War II. Clinton previously called on Europe to censor American citizens when Twitter sought to dismantle its censorship program and called her defeat in the 2016 election “illegitimate.” Yet, for many civil libertarians, the “defenders of democracy” are the very threat to democracy going into the 2024 election.
Here is the column:
In 2024, the greatest test for our Constitution may be whether it can survive the “Defenders of Democracy.”
Ronald Reagan often said, “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” Today, Reagan’s line cannot compare with the line that sends many of us into a fetal position: “I’m a Democrat and I am here to save democracy.”
The jump scare claim is that unless citizens vote for democrats, the end of democracy will begin shortly. In 2022, House Majority Whip Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told “Fox News Sunday” that “democracy will be ending” if Democrats lost the midterms.
The rhetoric has continued to ramp up with the upcoming election.
From President Joe Biden to a host of progressive politicians and pundits, the 2024 election is all about saving democracy. The public has been told that if the Democrats lose power, citizens will be living in a tyrannical hellscape. Vice President Kamala Harris stated in one interview that 2024 “genuinely could be” the last democratic election in America’s history. Dozens of Democrats have said that democracy will end if Biden is not reelected.
The Washington Post even ran an op-ed titled, “A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending.”
Many Americans have tuned out the overheated rhetoric, as shown by Donald Trump’s continuing lead in many polls even after his conviction in Manhattan. The warnings also ignore that our system has checks and balances that protected democracy for centuries as the world’s oldest and most successful constitutional system. These dire predictions would require all three branches to fail in an unprecedented fashion.
While these figures cite the Capitol riot on Jan 6., 2021 as evidence of the pending collapse of democracy, the system worked as designed on that day. Congress refused to be deterred by the riot and virtually every court (including many presided over by Trump-appointed judges) rejected challenges to the election.
The most obvious threats today to the democratic system are coming from the left, not the right.
Democratic secretaries of state sought to block Trump from the ballot in 2024, and Democratic members sought to bar roughly 120 colleagues from their respective ballots. It seemed that the greatest threat to democracy was its exercise by voters. Fortunately, a unanimous Supreme Court rejected the theory and added, “Nothing in the Constitution requires that we endure such chaos.”
There has also been a push by Democrats to keep third-party candidates off ballots. Again, the last thing democracy needs is for voters to have more democratic choice.
In New York, Democratic congressional candidate Paula Collins even suggested that, after the election, the focus must be on “re-education” of MAGA voters, although she acknowledged that “that sounds like a rather, a re-education camp. I don’t think we really want to call it that. I’m sure we can find another way to phrase it.”
Democratic operatives are using the same rationalization to call for biased reporting to help Biden get reelected.
Democratic strategist James Carville this week demanded more “slanted” media coverage against Donald Trump to save democracy. Carville was triggered by New York Times editor Joe Kahn suggesting that the newspaper report the news in a fair and neutral manner. The suggestion sent many pundits into vapors at the very thought of reembracing objectivity in journalism.
“I don’t have anything against slanted coverage,” Carville insisted. “I really don’t, I would have something against it at most other times in American history, but not right now. F— your objectivity. The real objectivity in this country right now is we’re either going to have a Constitution or we’re not.”
It was particularly galling to hear the call for “slanted coverage” in the same week that the Hunter Biden laptop was authenticated and used as evidence in his Delaware trial. The government has called the widely reported claim that the laptop was “Russian disinformation” a debunked “conspiracy theory.” Carville was making his pitch for more biased reporting to the very media that buried the laptop story before the last election and spent two years in denial of its authenticity.
Yet, many journalists agree with Carville. Some journalism schools have been teaching that reporters need to dump concepts of objectivity and neutrality to achieve political and social reforms.
This week, reporters were irate after Washington Post publisher and CEO William Lewis issued a blunt message that the newspaper could not survive after losing half of its readership and tens of millions of dollars last year. He told the staff: “People are not reading your stuff. Right. I can’t sugarcoat it anymore.”
The fear that these newspapers might cover Biden and Trump in a fair and balanced way was immediately denounced as . . . wait for it . . . a threat to democracy. After Carville’s meltdown, the Washington Post’s Margaret Sullivan warned Kahn and others that “our very democracy is on the brink, and how the Times covers that existential threat is of extraordinary importance.” She then asked whether the paper will “forthrightly identify the problems posed by a radicalized Republican Party that is increasingly dedicated to lies, bad-faith attacks and the destruction of democratic norms.”
Sullivan expressed alarm that the media would “try to cut the situation straight down the middle as if we were still in the old days — an era that no longer exists?”
The “era” appears to be the golden age of journalism when most Americans respected and patronized the same media outlets. Now, citizens are fleeing mainstream media, and polls indicate that they view reporters as pursuing the very political agendas embraced by figures like Carville and Sullivan.
Many voters are also responding to what they see as the politicalization of the criminal justice system, particularly with Trump’s recent trial in Manhattan. Again, these cases are being embraced as key to “defending democracy” when many citizens view them as the very antithesis of a nation committed to the rule of law.
This glaring disconnect was evident when President Joe Biden spoke on the top of the Point-du-Hoc in Normandy on the 80th anniversary of D-Day. Biden again used the event to suggest that democracy was in danger in the United States with the upcoming election. Yet, Biden has overseen widespread government censorship with federal agencies targeting those with opposing views on everything from elections and climate change to COVID-19 and transgender policies.
As Democratic secretaries of state sought to bar Trump from ballots, Biden refused to oppose the efforts. When liberal law professors and members demanded to pack the Supreme Court to guarantee a liberal majority, Biden refused to denounce it during the last campaign.
This is why some in the country may view Biden and the Democrats as existential threats not just to democracy, but to themselves. They see a party that is engaged in efforts to cleanse ballots (of Republicans), censor dissenting voices and prosecute political opponents. That is not exactly what propelled those men to climb the cliff of Pointe-du-Hoc in 1944.
Fortunately, our democracy does not depend on any president. It was designed by James Madison to withstand the worst, not the best, motivations of our leaders. After all, Madison wrote in Federalist #51, “If Men were angels, no government would be necessary.”
The system that he designed has withstood political, economic and social crises, including a civil war. It may even protect us from today’s “defenders of democracy.”
Jonathan Turley is the J.B. and Maurice C. Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at the George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
No Threat To Democracy?
Trump’s Sanity In Question
Donald Trump held an outdoor rally in Las Vegas Sunday amid triple digit temperatures. The Las Vegas Fire Department had to rescue at least 6 attendees from heat stroke.
While denouncing Joe Biden’s push towards electric vehicles, Trump veered off into this monolog regarding electric boats:
*****
“I say, ‘What would happen if the boat sank from its weight, and you’re in the boat, and you have this tremendously powerful battery, and the battery’s now underwater, and there’s a shark that’s approximately 10 yards over there?’
“By the way, a lot of shark attacks lately, do you notice that? Lot of sharks. I watched some guys justifying it today: ‘Well they weren’t really that angry, they bit off the young lady’s leg because of the fact that they were not hungry but they misunderstood who she was.’ These people are crazy. He said, ‘There’s no problem with sharks, they just didn’t really understand a young woman swimming.’ No, really got decimated, and other people, too, a lot of shark attacks.
“So I said, ‘There’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards, or here. Do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking? Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted?’ Because I will tell you, he didn’t know the answer.
“He said, ‘You know, nobody’s ever asked me that question.’ I said, ‘I think it’s a good question. I think there’s a lot of electric current coming through that water.’ But you know what I’d do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted? I’ll take electrocution every single time. I’m not getting near the shark. So we’re going to end that, we’re going to end it for boats, we’re going to end it for trucks.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/06/10/trump-sharks-electrocuted-boat-story/
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This is a former president seeking to reclaim the White House. And he’s babbling like a neurotic in some comedic movie.
If actor Bill Murray gave this same speech, in his addled by marijuana tone, it would be a laugh riot. But for a presidential nominee, it’s not one bit funny.
YAWN
As pointed out by others below, these are satirical remarks about compelling use electrical motors. There is nothing crazy about them.
The shitlibs problem is they think every word out of Trumps mouth is a policy commitment or a political pledge.
The dude just likes to talk and have fun with his audience.
It would be like us showing up here with “OMG Joe Biden just said he wants to bring back cannibalism!!
Whats hard to tell is if they are feigning outrage or if they are really that stupid. So sad.
They are that stupid. Democrats are the Party of Stupid People.
I saw that. It was hilarious!!!
Newsflash for turdrunner.
Trump is not a Presidential nominee.
Such hyperbole!! Not funny!!!
Fake Electors Update:
Giuliani Booked In Arizona
Rudy Giuliani’s mug shot was published Monday after the former New York City mayor was processed in Arizona on criminal charges that he attempted to overturn the 2020 election results in the state.
Giuliani paid a $10,000 bond to be released Monday, according to court records.
The former Trump attorney faces nine felony charges related to the fake elector scheme in Arizona, charged alongside 17 other people including fellow Trump attorneys John Eastman, Christina Bobb and Jenna Ellis as well as former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. All defendants pleaded not guilty.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4714932-rudy-giuliani-mug-shot-arizona-election-interference-case/
YAWN
Time for a little good news for us right thinking Americans. Nate Silver just penned a piece outlining how Biden has hit a new low, 37.9%, and that as tough as it may be right now Biden should drop out.
See here:
https://nypost.com/2024/06/10/us-news/pollster-nate-silver-suggests-it-might-be-time-for-biden-to-drop-out-of-2024-presidential-race/
But it begs the question, who the hell are those 37.9%? That must be the number of government workers we have.
Michigan Indicts 16 In Fake Electors Scheme
Former President Donald Trump, his former chief of staff Mark Meadows, and Rudy Giuliani are unindicted co-conspirators in the Michigan attorney general’s case against the state’s so-called “fake electors” in the 2020 election, a state investigator revealed in court on Wednesday.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel charged 16 Republicans last year with forgery and conspiracy to commit election forgery for allegedly attempting to replace Michigan’s electoral votes for Joe Biden with electoral votes for Trump at the certification of the vote on Jan. 6, 2021.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-giuliani-meadows-unindicted-conspirators-michigan-fake-elector/story?id=109578220
More lawfare
Michigan failed to follow its own election laws
Should a trump doj start prosecuting the Michigan SoS for election fraud?
Two can play this game
And there are many many excellent criminal charges to lodge against democrats for election interference
Maybe you will stop the law fare when you are wearing an orange jump suit
There is no forgery
Everything was done in the open
Everyone knew about it at the time
These people were following precedent over a century old
Unlike SoSs who ignored state election laws and certified lawlessly conducted elections
That is an actual federal crime
Violation of rights under color of law
@ John
“Should a trump doj start prosecuting the Michigan SoS for election fraud?”
Yes.
Can we indict Joe Biden for being a fake President?
Arizona Indicts 11 In Fake Electors Scheme
Eleven Republicans have been indicted by a grand jury in Arizona and charged with conspiracy, fraud and forgery for falsely claiming that former President Trump had won the state in 2020 over then-Democratic nominee Joe Biden.
The defendants include former chair of the Arizona Republican Party Kelli Ward, sitting state Sens. Jake Hoffman and Anthony Kern and an unindicted co-conspirator described as “a former president of the United States who spread false claims of election fraud following the 2020 election,” a clear reference to Trump.
Seven others were indicted but had their names redacted, pending charges being served.
Some outlets reported that former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and Rudy Giuliani and were also unindicted co-conspirators along with Trump.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/arizona-alleged-fake-electors-backed-trump-2020-indicted-grand-jury
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No living American has any recollection of a plot like the fake electors scheme. And this is still a developing story. To presume our democracy is safe presumes way too much.
Wisconsin Indicts 3 In Fake Electors Scheme
Three men involved in the so-called fake electors scheme to keep former President Donald Trump in office following his 2020 election loss have been charged in Wisconsin, according to court records.
Mike Roman, a Philadelphia native who served as the Trump campaign’s head of Election Day operations, was charged Tuesday, as was Kenneth Chesebro, an attorney who struck a plea deal with prosecutors in a separate 2020 election case in Georgia in October. James Troupis, a former judge and Trump campaign attorney, was also charged in connection with the fake electors scheme.
Chesebro, Roman and Troupis are all charged with felony forgery, according to court records. They are charged for their role in getting a slate of pro-Trump electors to sign paperwork attesting, falsely, that Trump had won Wisconsin in the 2020 election. Similar slates of fake electors for Trump were organized in several states and charges have been brought in Arizona, Michigan, Nevada and Georgia.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/key-trump-allies-charged-fake-electors-scheme-wisconsin-rcna155395
Yes chesboro plead to a non crime and issued an apology to the state of ga
And agreed to cooperate with Willis
When deposed by Willis he then shredded her case
Because cooperate means “tell the truth”
Democrats dislike of the truth does not change it
John Say
You are completely and utterly delusional, living in a bizarre alternate reality.
What you say makes absolutely no rational sense.
Chesboro, a lawyer, supposedly pleads guilty to a NON-CRIME.
He cooperates and “shreds her case”.
If he, a lawyer, was able to “shred her case”, why would he plead guilty.
If his testimony “shredded her case”, he would have known that ahead of time.
He would have to be insane to plead guilty if he knew he could “shred her case”
Chesboro is not insane, but you very well may be.
Makes perfect sense, ya 3rd grader.
Not even gonna explain it though. Rather just let you sit and spin
Yes more democrat lawfare
This is not a crime
It is precisely how federal courts long ago directed tha legislatures should respond to the executive failing to follow the law
State legislatures can not sue the state executive for failure to follow the law
One of the ways the legislature can overcome executives that fail to follow election laws is by appointing their own slates of electors
YAWN
KAC’s whacko ex husband predicted “civil unrest” when Trump is elected.
And in a total suspension of logic, he is blaming it on the right,
Cant make this shit up
TDS really f**ks a person’s brain up.
Message from Jonathan:
With colleges on summer break, most campus protests have shut down.
However, if you’re aware of any active ones, please send me details so I can be alarmed by them in some pre-written columns.
No, he isnt
No he isnt
No, it isnt
@seanmdav
“Hunter Biden should be on trial for money laundering, for tax evasion regarding the millions he made from Burisma, for selling influence and government action, and for operating as an unregistered foreign agent, at a bare minimum.
But the corrupt prosecutor tapped by Biden to “investigate” Hunter magically let the statute of limitations expire on Hunter’s Burisma bucks and ignored every single crime committed in service of the Biden crime family. He just pretended none of it ever happened to protect Joe Biden.
Hunter’s gun trial only came about as a last minute face-saving measure after the corrupt prosecutor’s corrupt plea deal for Hunter was ripped to shreds by a federal judge.
Any verdict in the gun trial is functionally irrelevant because the corrupt Biden admin has already proven that the entire justice system is rigged. By them. In favor of themselves and their friends, and against their political enemies. Nothing in this silly trial will do a thing to change that fact.”
5:12 PM · Jun 10, 2024
This just in:
Biden claims erectionists stormed the capitol on July 6th, for a third time.
See the video
Newly revealed
Trump says he will remove taxes on tips.
Survey in Nevada says 1 in 8 who voted democrat last year would change their vote over this single issue.
Latest report.
The 85,000 new IRS agents are hard at work.
They are now targeting people who make tips. The IRS justifies this by saying it’s costing the treasury about 800 million a year.
Marianne Williamson predicted that waitresses and “gig” workers would be the target of the expanded IRS enforcement arm. The wealthy have slick lawyers. Workers are relatively helpless. More proof of the Democrats’ love of workers.
Newly Revealed:
Trump Refused To Order National Guard On January 6th
Newly revealed footage from Jan. 6, 2021, shows Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) berating Trump administration officials over former President Trump’s refusal to order the National Guard to break up the Capitol riots.
Members of Congress were evacuated to Fort McNair when rioters violently breached the Capitol. Schumer could be seen in the video, which aired Monday on MSNBC, yelling at then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy over the whereabouts of the National Guard.
Trump has long claimed, falsely, that he ordered the National Guard into Washington and that then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) stopped him. The claim has been undermined by Trump’s Cabinet members under oath.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4714732-new-video-shows-schumer-fury-over-trump-not-sending-national-guard-on-jan-6/
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Anyone who claims democracy is safe in the United States resides in either another country or the rightwing bubble.
Do mot respond^^^^ DNC paid troll
New video shows a confused chick shumer lying.
Imagine that.
Lmao
Gee, this idiot just realized Trump never ordered the National Guard on July 6
The claim is not that Trump “ordered” the National Guard. The claim is that he offered Pelosi, Schumer and the Bowser the option of having him order the National Guard if they wanted. They did not want.
“President Trump’s refusal *to order* the National Guard to break up the Capitol riots.” (Emphasis added)
Which is a good thing, since a president does not have the legal authority to issue such an order. He only has the power to authorize the use of the NG at the Capitol.
And if Trump had *ordered* the NG, the Left would’ve screamed: Fascist! Dictator! Just as it did when he threatened their use during the “summer of love.”
Saving Democracy means not arresting criminals and applying the precepts of the Communist Manifesto: In depicting the most general phases of the development of the proletariat, we traced the more or less veiled civil war, raging within existing society, up to the point where that war breaks out into open revolution, and where the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie lays the foundation for the sway of the proletariat.
It appears insurrections are just dandy when Marx and Engel’s rules apply
White House Protesters Vandalized Property and Clashed With Law Enforcement, But Police Say No Arrests Were Made
https://freebeacon.com/crime/white-house-protesters-vandalized-property-and-clashed-with-law-enforcement-but-police-say-no-arrests-were-made/
The J-8 insurrection.
Turley wrote a great column here. I really appreciate him. He is one of these old timey honest liberals.
We are younger and live in a post liberal world. We respect these liberal ideas and ethical and political norms of individual rights.
However we also understand that politics is fundamental social foundation for the ongoing development of culture and ethics. Accordingly, political conflicts can run so deep that they reveal exigencies that uproot norms and make way for new ones.
We are ready for an eventuality. And we know our “enemies” are not just far flung boogeymen in Russia and China.
The biggest “enemies of the people” reside in Hollywood, New York City, and DC
Saloth Sar
“…Hollywood, New York City, and DC…” That’s where the Taliban thinks its biggest enemies are, too.
Polls show that 85% of Americans are happy that the Allies prevailed in World War II.
But at a recent Tesla executive Zoom meeting, that number seemed much lower.
no, they didnt
Still nothing on possible juror misconduct in Merchan’s court. Is it possible that the judge doesn’t want to lift the lid and investigate too closely because he suspects he may discover several instances of juror misconduct…maybe the whole jury? Wouldn’t surprise me. If the judge can indulge in misconduct, why not the jury? Equity!
There is no explicit Constitutional prohibition against shitposting, so the Trump hush money case should be declared a mistrial on the basis of the stuff that guy wrote about his cousin on Facebook.
—-Jonathan Turley
If the post is shit, you must acquit!
No, it isnt
Still nothing on possible juror misconduct in Merchan’s court
There was a time when professionals were proud just to be competent.
Estovir: “There was a time when professionals were proud just to be competent.”
+++
And had the decency to be embarrassed when they faltered.
If Hunter is acquitted and there is too much blowback because of our justice system having two sets of rules then Merchant will get the word to look into jury misbehavior. By, for and of the people. What a bunch of BS.
You assume Hunter isnt providing Judge Merchan blow (cocaine)
Young, that person commenting on Facebook was a MAGA loyalist deliberately raising a false flag.
No, he isnt
Trump thinks saving democracy means suspending the Constitution.
Uh duh dup
Trump didn’t suspend the Constitution during his presidency. It was Democrats who did that, when they went to excess during the Covid lockdowns.
The whole Trump-will-destroy-America refrain looks rather foolish. Trump has already been president, and we prospered.
No, Karen— Trump inherited thriving economy that he proceeded to destroy with his tax cuts for the wealthy, tariffs and botched handling of COVID. He caused the worst recession since the Great Depression.
Biden turned around all of the damage Trump did to our economy and relations with our allies. No more daily records of deaths and infections.
No, just an overall record of 3 times as many deaths.
What year was that recession, Gigi???
What a retard.
No Karen, everything you witnessed is not true!!!
I reject your reality and substitute my own Gigi, the fat, smelly libtard in a pants suit
No, Natasha, Trump inherited an anemic economy from Obama. The medium income level went down during the second Obama admin, for the first time in modern American history. The news was so big, even NPR covered it. I know. I was shocked when I heard them cover the story.
Trumps tax cuts worked just as they were supposed too. It put more money in our pocket. A good friend of ours who is in a higher tax bracket with no dependents, had to pay out. She was not happy. But it worked as intended.
Biden did not turn anything around. Biden gave us Bideneconomics which has been a disaster along with Bidenflation, which is a tax on everyone, currently at 18% since Biden came into office.
Biden has the world in two wars due to his weakness, incompetence and failed foreign policy. He also has us on track for WWIII. Biden’s foreign policy has also unified the BRICS and even expanded the BRICS to BRICS+. As a result, de-dollarization is occurring at a rate no one expected we would ever see in our life time. Biden, through his gross incompetence, has forced the decline of the US/West uni-polar world and the emergence of a multi-polar world. The BRICS+ are planning on launching their own gold and commodities backed currency called The Unit in 2025 or 2026 in which they will no longer need US dollars to conduct international trade. When that happens, all those US dollars will flow back to the US, and we will get inflation that will make Bidenflation look like a picnic.
All thanks to Biden.
My Uber driver put his Tesla into self-driving mode and spent the ride talking about all the things Elon will soon automate, from manufacturing to food service to construction.
He says he’s voting for Trump because he fears immigrants taking Americans’ jobs.
No, he didnt.
Saving Democracy for Democrats means lynching blacks.
The Sliming of Byron Donalds
During Jim Crow, the black family was together. During Jim Crow, more black people were not just conservative—because black people have always been conservative-minded—but more black people voted conservatively. And then . . . Lyndon Johnson—you go down that road, and now we are where we are.” Meaning that LBJ’s Great Society destroyed the black family.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-sliming-of-byron-donalds-trump-vp-twisting-his-words-jim-crow-057c6570
Alas, the Democrats would not allow a black man to slime their white hero, LBJ. So they organized a klan to lynch Byron Donalds to save
whiteface. After all, Democrats must be true to their history, their heritage, their being Mash-tuhs of blaque folk and keep dem on Dem plantationsI’ll have those n******voting Democratic for the next 200 years.
– Lyndon B. (aka White Racist Democrat Bigot) Johnson
The logic of Al Sharpton:
During the Middle Ages, people ate less processed food and sugar, and they walked more. Children played outside, as there were no video games. Oh! So you think the Middle Ages were fantastic in all things, and you support torture, land snatching, child labor, serfdom, and witch burning! You’re not applauding physical exercise and less processed foods in a diet, but rather the Middle Ages itself!
Justice Samuel Alito agrees that we should return to the Middle Ages.
Immigrants are destroying America.
—- Elon Musk, Rupert Murdoch, and David Sacks
Which immigrants? The English? The Italians? The Jews?
Elon, Rupert and David.
Try to pay attention.
Maybe too subtle for a MAGA mind.
Douche^^^^
Is that too subtle?
Not so fun fact.
Both David Sacks and Elon Musk are uninvited immigrants from South Africa.
South Africa is definitely not sending us their best people.
No, they arent
No, he didnt
No one is saying all immigrants destroy America, least of all South African immigrant Elon Musk, obviously. They are saying that unfettered illegal immigration destroys the country. Democrat governors and mayors who are facing systemic infrastructure failure and budget cuts to all services, due to the influx of more than 10 million illegal immigrants, are saying the same thing.
Removing the “illegal” from immigrant, in order to materially change the context, is dishonest. If you resort to dishonesty rather than addressing the sincere concerns on both sides of the issue, then you don’t think you have a good argument. Otherwise, you would make it without lying about the other side’s position.
I guess you approve of Elon Musk and David Sacks because they are South Africans of the RIGHT color.
(You may get the pun, but somehow I doubt it)
Actually, its more of a double entendre, and I am sure you don’t know what that is.
No, it isnt