Post: Jack Smith is Willing to Try Trump Up to Inauguration Day

The Washington Post is reporting that Special Counsel Jack Smith may try to convict former president Donald Trump all the way through the election and up to 11:59 am on January 20th. After the oath, the Justice Department has long maintained that it will not prosecute a sitting president.

There is also a long-standing policy of the Justice Department to abstain from criminal proceedings before an election to avoid the appearance of trying to influence the outcome. Smith has signaled that he will discard that policy and that he is prepared to try Trump not only up to the election but through the election.

He is now reportedly willing to try Trump up to January 20th.

Smith has made trying Trump before the election the overriding priority in his two cases against the former president. He failed repeatedly to force a shorter schedule on appeal before the Supreme Court. His arguments were revealing. He suggested that the public should have a possible conviction before they cast their votes. It flipped the DOJ policy on its head in openly seeking to influence the election.

The Supreme Court was not persuaded, though Smith did succeed in effectively cutting the appellate process a bit shorter.  He then lost in spectacular fashion before the Court on presidential immunity.

According to the Post, he is not giving up the ghost and is now committed to a trial running up to Inauguration Day: “Current officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, expressed … that if Trump wins the election, the clock on the two federal cases against him would keep ticking until Jan. 20, when he would be sworn in as the 47th president.”

Even with Smith’s continued push to try Trump at all costs before the Inauguration, it could be a challenge. There is a 30-day period before the Supreme Court case is effectively returned to district court.

Judge Tanya Chutkan has been highly favorable for Smith and highly motivated in seeking a trial before the election. That led to problems highlighted in the recent opinion. Chutkan was so motivated that she failed to create an adequate record on these issues. That record will now have to be established.

If Chutkan rules as she did earlier, she is expected to be hostile to Trump’s claims on his conduct falling within official functions. However, she will need to make the record and her decision could again be appealed. The Court left clear guidelines that will make it difficult for Chutkan to, again, dismiss such claims.

Moreover, the pre-trial motions were stopped with the latest appeal. They must now be addressed. Finally, she pledged to give the Trump team over 80 days for preparation after the appeal, which will be added to the 30 days, the period for the remand record, and the pre-trial motions.

There is also the need for the court and Smith to deal with the Fischer decision limiting the use of the obstruction charges — impacting two of the four counts against Trump. As I have previously written, Smith has various options but could trigger a new reversal on appeal if he follows his signature inclination to resist legal limits.

In other words, Smith’s appetite for a trial before the Inauguration may exceed his ability to force that expedited schedule.

353 thoughts on “Post: Jack Smith is Willing to Try Trump Up to Inauguration Day”

  1. Jack better have his affairs in order, and his bug-out bags ready to go

  2. Past predicts future. The motto of the Democrat Party will remain “Get Trump.”

    Democrats fabricated the entire Russia Collusion Hoax to try to destabilize Trump’s presidency. They convinced enough people that he was a Russian spy, that Machiavellian abuses of power to get him out of office seemed justified, though based on a non existent foundation. When the hoax was finally admitted, the persistent believe that Trump was a threat to democracy persisted. There was cognitive dissonance on a mass scale. Biden would have dearly loved to have the economy, low inflation, record low black unemployment, and affordability of groceries, rent, fuel, and basic goods we all enjoyed under Trump’s presidency. Since this happened under Trump’s stewardship, Democrats simply cannot believe the prosperity they experienced was real.

    Democrats colluded with the media to denounce critics who pointed to Joe Biden’s obvious cognitive decline in his 2020 presidential campaign. He’d call someone the name of someone who’d died, forgot how his own son died, made wild false claims about getting arrested with Nelson Mandela, lost his train of thought, forgot where he was. It was the early stages of when dementia becomes noticeably apparent. Democrats and the media told us to disbelieve our own eyes and ears, and helped get a man in cognitive decline elected president of the United States. Then they continued to run interference, as more people in frustration argued that his decline was worsening. Joe Biden had flash cards with directions to sit down, where to exit, and photos of journalists he was allowed to call on who would have vetted questions for his printed answers. He couldn’t function without a teleprompter, and even then made errors, such as reading the teleprompter directions. After having gaslit us for 4 years, the debate performance made the lie untenable. The media now acts as if Joe Biden suddenly exhibited dementia at the debate, without any prior signs at all. Previous desperate calls to look at his mental capacity failing were brushed off as total lies, that have nothing to do with the befuddled man at that debate.

    Karine Jean Pierre has stood in front of reporters for days, flatly denied Biden had any dementia, and said he only had a “bad night”, because he was tired, and had a cold. Members of the Biden Administration and staff are colluding to hide the severe cognitive decline, that has now reached free fall, for a sitting American president, which prevents the application of the 25th Amendment. By their perfidy, they have propped up a man who is medically and neurologically unfit for office, and incapable of responding to any crisis that may arise. Whoever is actually running the country, be it FLOTUS or a group of people, refuse to relinquish power, and seek to get this poor, failing man reelected.

    The world is heading towards WWIII, and Democrats are gaslighting voters, in the hopes they will reelect a dementia patient whose son traveled the world collecting millions from foreign actors in exchange for political favors.

    If Trump does win the election, Democrat activists will resume efforts to sabotage his presidency, regardless of the risk that puts the country in.

    This is power at all cost, not public service.

  3. The admin insisted that it had np control over Alvin Bragg, but it certainly does control Jack Smith. There can be np question that Biden had a specific policy to impede the Trump campaign through the use of the DOJ. I guess it’s good for Biden that he is criminally immune for this.

  4. There is a bit going around that Biden told an ally that he is weighing getting out of the race. I wonder if that is just some more fake news, put out to help spin the story. I remember a ton of false stories over the past years about Trump. The NYT was involved in a lot of those stories.

  5. Who’s Generating That Latin?

    Here at Puppet Watch, we can’t say for sure who the culprit is. But we may have seen a preview last Thursday night when Floyd posted an ancient Welsh poem that ran at great length. Then Estovir (the same troll as Floyd) posted the entire Book of Revelations; which essentially disabled the site. Those efforts may have been a dry run to what we’re seeing today.

    1. And not far below, Floyd generates another long poem. That’s a ‘demonstration’ of some kind.

  6. Jonathan: Now outside the SC and its Trump v. US decision what else is happening in the news?

    For starters, Rudy Giuliani just lost his license to practice law in NY. Why? Because he walks, talks and acts like a crook!

    Then, Steve Bannon is in prison for defying a subpoena from the J. 6 Select Committee. He won’t get out until just days before the election– so he won’t be of much use to DJT in his campaign. But birds of a feather flock together. So if DJT gets back into office he will find some way to put Bannon to good use–leading the brigade that bombs Nancy Pelosi’s house!

    So despite all the twist and turns and contortions of the SC to undercut the rule of law, it looks like the criminal justice system is working–holding accountable those who thought they were above the law like Giuliani and Bannon.

    Finally, Joe Biden is facing a tough decision–whether to bow out in favor of a younger Dem. candidate. Who might that candidate be? How about former First Lady Michelle Obama? In the latest Reuters/Ipso poll 50% of respondents said they would vote for Obama and only 39% say they would vote for DJT. Something to think about. I doubt Obama would agree to run but think about this–The first Black female President of the United States!

    1. Why? Because he walks, talks and acts like a non-democrat crook!

      FTFY

    2. I remember when certain cities got their first and second and third black female leaders. They seem to simply accelerate the regular non-black female democrat leader experience – corruption, unemployment, and crime.

      You go girl

    3. Dennis “call me Biden’s Baghdad Bob” McIntyre, posting here because if he wasn’t stealing space in this column to write his commie blog, nobody would ever see it tried this
      For starters, Rudy Giuliani just lost his license to practice law in NY. Why?

      Because he didn’t work for Bolshevik Barack and Bribery Biden, like their lawyer who changed an exculpatory document to fraudulently criminalize an innocent American veteran and then perjure himself to FISA courts while uttering that false document to the court.

      That Soviet Democrat lawyer is a convicted FELON – but Dennis is gloating he not only didn’t spend a day in jail, BUT… he wasn’t even disbarred. As Hillary Clinton’s lawyer Marc Elias also got a pass for election felonies while setting up the “Russia Dossier. Disbarred? No, of course not!

      Also not disbarred: Bolshevik Barack’s last two Soviet Democrat Attorney Generals who also perjured themselves to FISA courts – needless to say, they also were not charged.

      Because Soviet Democrats only disbar lawyers who dare to work for Trump – Soviet Democrat lawyers working for police state fascist Soviet Democrat presidents can commit felonies in the public eye – and their fellow police state fascists like Baghdad Bob McIntyre will cheer wildly.
      .
      Then, Steve Bannon is in prison for defying a subpoena from the J. 6 Select Committee.

      Meanwhile, Bolshevik Barack’s Attorney General ISN’T in prison for defying a subpoena from an earlier committee. To nobody’s surprise, not even disbarred.

      Also not in prison for defying a subpoena: The Family Cashier Formerly Known As The First Crackhead Son.

      Also not in prison for defying a subpoena: Bribery Biden’s Attorney General, Merrick Garland. And again to nobody’s surprise, not even disbarred.

      Does Baghdad Bob McIntyre want to explain to readers how this works?

      think about this–The first Black female President of the United States!

      Think about this: they replace the corroded bag of corrupt pus that Baghdad Bob calls “boss” with Vice President Cackle Hoe.

      And then we get weeks where investigators drag up every single guy she was giving blow jobs and rim jobs, working her way on her knees and back up the political ladder.

      It will make the Crackhead Kid’s porn laptop with videos of him raping underage hookers (while The Big Guy paid the bill) look like kindergarten story time.

  7. Meanwhile, over among the mentally fragile Democrat crowds, there is a new role model for them!

    1. And lo! The former NYT Executive Editor, Jill Abramson, castigates the MSM for cover up! She is as dishonest as Joseph Biden

      The View from Jill Abramson

      It’s clear the best news reporters in Washington have failed in the first duty of journalism: to hold power accountable. It is our duty to poke through White House smoke screens and find out the truth. The Biden White House clearly succeeded in a massive cover-up of the degree of the President’s feebleness and his serious physical decline, which may be simply the result of old age. Shame on the White House press corps for not to have pierced the veil of secrecy surrounding the President.

      Obviously, the President’s decline was a super hard story to report, even by those who wanted to get it, like the WSJ. Their story did not deliver, using mostly named GOP sources.

      But I do think if enough reporters had pushed, the story was reportable. I worry that too many journalists didn’t try to get the story because they did not want to be accused of helping elect Donald Trump. I get that.

      But this is no excuse for abandoning our first duty, which is to report the truth and hold power accountable. President Biden should be held accountable for his obvious lapses of mental acuity, even if there are periods of lucidity.

      It is simply astounding for the entire country, including its most seasoned reporters, to be as shocked as everyone was by the ugly and painful reality of Biden’s debate performance.

      And it is laughable and immoral for Democrats to blame the press now for over-reacting to that reality. The reports of how bad Biden was are certainly not exaggerated. Nor are the reports of Democrats in panic.

      Jill Abramson was executive editor of the New York Times from 2011 to 2014.

      https://www.semafor.com/newsletter/07/02/2024/mixed-signals-special-blame-the-media

      In other news, I have repeatedly warned Professor Turley that his fundamentalist view on the First Amendment is folly. How does one say in Latin, I told you so?

      Peter Shill masquerading as everyone and anyone in order to dominate the comments section is proof positive why Turley either should shut down the comments section or do what every other internet site requires: user registration

      Requiescat in pace Res Ipsa Loquitur

      🪦

  8. Smith long ago “discarded” the notion or policy of not prosecuting someone seeking an elected office! Indeed, Smith is pursuing litigation in the 2 federal district courts BECAUSE he wishes to adversely affect the role of accused defendant, DJTrump, in the ongoing election process. Whether Smith’s misconduct or the misconduct recommended to him by others, it is someone’s personal vendetta vs DJTrump. Thanks to nine Justices, Smith’s obstruction charges in the District of Columbia are .. gone; the 2 remaining charges have no factual basis for charging violations of the statutes upon which he relies.

  9. Since one or more of the DNC shills is intent on demonstrating their mental illness, I thought it would be nice to have a CLASSY “mad” poem. To wit, here is Tom O’Bedlam, and a bonus “mad” response poem!

    Tom o’ Bedlam

    From the hag and hungry goblin
    That into rags would rend ye,
    The spirit that stands by the naked man
    In the Book of Moons defend ye,
    That of your five sound senses
    You never be forsaken,
    Nor wander from your selves with Tom
    Abroad to beg your bacon,
    While I do sing, Any food, any feeding,
    Feeding, drink, or clothing;
    Come dame or maid, be not afraid,
    Poor Tom will injure nothing.

    Of thirty bare years have I
    Twice twenty been enragèd,
    And of forty been three times fifteen
    In durance soundly cagèd
    On the lordly lofts of Bedlam,
    With stubble soft and dainty,
    Brave bracelets strong, sweet whips ding-dong,
    With wholesome hunger plenty,
    And now I sing, Any food, any feeding,
    Feeding, drink, or clothing;
    Come dame or maid, be not afraid,
    Poor Tom will injure nothing.

    With a thought I took for Maudlin
    And a cruse of cockle pottage,
    With a thing thus tall, sky bless you all,
    I befell into this dotage.
    I slept not since the Conquest,
    Till then I never wakèd,
    Till the roguish boy of love where I lay
    Me found and stript me nakèd.
    And now I sing, Any food, any feeding,
    Feeding, drink, or clothing;
    Come dame or maid, be not afraid,
    Poor Tom will injure nothing.

    When I short have shorn my sow’s face
    And swigged my horny barrel,
    In an oaken inn I pound my skin
    As a suit of gilt apparel;
    The moon’s my constant mistress,
    And the lowly owl my marrow;
    The flaming drake and the night crow make
    Me music to my sorrow.
    While I do sing, Any food, any feeding,
    Feeding, drink, or clothing;
    Come dame or maid, be not afraid,
    Poor Tom will injure nothing.

    The palsy plagues my pulses
    When I prig your pigs or pullen,
    Your culvers take, or matchless make
    Your Chanticleer or Sullen.
    When I want provant with Humphrey
    I sup, and when benighted,
    I repose in Paul’s with waking souls
    Yet never am affrighted.
    But I do sing, Any food, any feeding,
    Feeding, drink, or clothing;
    Come dame or maid, be not afraid,
    Poor Tom will injure nothing.

    I know more than Apollo,
    For oft, when he lies sleeping
    I see the stars at bloody wars
    In the wounded welkin weeping;
    The moon embrace her shepherd,
    And the Queen of Love her warrior,
    While the first doth horn the star of morn,
    And the next the heavenly Farrier.
    While I do sing, Any food, any feeding,
    Feeding, drink, or clothing;
    Come dame or maid, be not afraid,
    Poor Tom will injure nothing.

    The gypsies, Snap and Pedro,
    Are none of Tom’s comradoes,
    The punk I scorn and the cutpurse sworn,
    And the roaring boy’s bravadoes.
    The meek, the white, the gentle
    Me handle, touch, and spare not;
    But those that cross Tom Rynosseros
    Do what the panther dare not.
    Although I sing, Any food, any feeding,
    Feeding, drink, or clothing;
    Come dame or maid, be not afraid,
    Poor Tom will injure nothing.

    With a host of furious fancies
    Whereof I am commander,
    With a burning spear and a horse of air,
    To the wilderness I wander.
    By a knight of ghosts and shadows
    I summoned am to tourney
    Ten leagues beyond the wide world’s end:
    Methinks it is no journey.
    Yet will I sing, Any food, any feeding,
    Feeding, drink, or clothing;
    Come dame or maid, be not afraid,
    Poor Tom will injure nothing.

    “Mad Maudlin’s Search”
    The original ballad was popular enough that another poem was written in reply: “Mad Maudlin’s Search” or “Mad Maudlin’s Search for Her Tom of Bedlam”[4] (she may be meant to be the Maud who seems to be mentioned in the verse “With a thought I took for Maudlin / And a cruise of cockle pottage / With a thing thus tall, Sky bless you all / I befell into this dotage.” which apparently records Tom going mad) or “Bedlam Boys” (from the chorus, “Still I sing bonny boys, bonny mad boys / Bedlam boys are bonny / For they all go bare and they live by the air / And they want no drink or money.”), whose first stanza is:

    For to see Mad Tom of Bedlam,
    Ten thousand miles I’ve traveled.
    Mad Maudlin goes on dirty toes,
    For to save her shoes from gravel
    The remaining stanzas include:

    I went down to Satan’s kitchen
    To break my fast one morning
    And there I got souls piping hot
    All on the spit a-turning.
    There I took a cauldron
    Where boiled ten thousand harlots
    Though full of flame I drank the same
    To the health of all such varlets.
    My staff has murdered giants
    My bag a long knife carries
    To cut mince pies from children’s thighs
    For which to feed the fairies.
    No gypsy, slut or doxy
    Shall win my mad Tom from me
    I’ll weep all night, with stars I’ll fight
    The fray shall well become me.
    [5][6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_o%27_Bedlam

  10. Looks like someone has been spending way too much time in the toilet? I guess the events of the past few days has twisted his Willy? Let’s hope the professor is able get a grasp on Caligula.

    1. One of my daughter’s friends told me that this happened to several “non-DNC echo chamber” forums in the past. Luckily, I have a fast scroll, so it is only a minor inconvenience. I take this as confirmation that Biden’s obvious dementia and the obvious lying by the corporate media has increased the cognitive dissonance among the Democrats, to the point where they have begun to dissemble in a schizophrenic fashion. That is kind of a good thing! Look how crazy they have become! 🙂

  11. “Car 54 Where Are You?”

    Darren Smith, what in the world are you doing?

  12. Turley would be far better of eliminating this comment section entirely. I’m done with it. Scrolling past a few idiotic anonymous comments is one thing, scrolling past pages and pages of alleged Latin bombast is a ridiculous waste of my time and energy. I CHOSE to participate here, I do not NEED to do so. I’m still not 100% convinced that this garbage isn’t some kind of “inside job”. There is plenty of blame to go around (including by those who insist on encouraging the idiot or idiots by replying to it, while advising others not to do so), but it all ultimately points back to Turley. He either selected the current useless moderator, or declined to replace one who left. That’s all on him. I think he is a prize fool to allow his name to be associated in any way with the festering cesspit this section has become, but that is his problem, I refuse to allow it to be mine. ~Later

    1. /|\ This was Number 6 Using a different computer and the identification prompt did not show up /|\

  13. So they are still going after the waskally wabbit. And they all look like Elmer Fudd. Independent Bob.

  14. Jack Smith’s appointment as a “Special Counsel” was unconstitutional! He is also a “domestic” enemy. He needs to be fired/disqualified and indicted for crimes against the United States!

    1. Anyone who supports the irrefutably unconstitutional communist American welfare state is a direct and mortal enemy of the American thesis of Freedom and Self-Reliance, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, actual Americans, and America.

      The entire communistic American welfare state is unconstitutional including, but not limited to, admissions affirmative action, grade-inflation affirmative action, employment affirmative action, quotas, welfare, food stamps, minimum wage, rent control, social services, forced busing, public housing, utility subsidies, WIC, SNAP, TANF, HAMP, HARP, TARP, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Environmental Protection Agency, Agriculture, Education, Labor, Energy, Obamacare, Social Security, Social Security Disability, Social Security Supplemental Income, Medicare, Medicaid, “Fair Housing” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, etc.

      Article 1, Section 8, provides Congress the power to tax for ONLY debt, defense, and “…general (all, the whole) Welfare…,” omitting and, thereby, excluding any power to tax for individual Welfare, specific Welfare, particular Welfare, favor or charity. The same article enumerates and provides Congress the power to regulate ONLY the Value of money, Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian Tribes, and land and naval Forces.

      Additionally, the 5th Amendment right to private property was initially qualified by the Framers and is, therefore, absolute, allowing no further qualification, and allowing ONLY the owner the power to “claim and exercise” dominion over private property.

      Government exists, under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, to provide maximal freedom to individuals while government is severely limited and restricted to merely facilitating that maximal freedom of individuals through the provision of security and infrastructure only.

  15. Maybe our copy-paster is none other than the plagiarizer in chief himself, brandon!

    publishing the copy-paster here may be a rights infringement from the original source material in case someone is looking for an easy execution.

  16. To the person posting as Pope Francis, the message is great, the delivery not so much, how many people do you believe can read the text in Latin?

    Quoting from one of you posts I believe it was Chapter 6: “The Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “The soul that commits a sin against a neighbor who has been entrusted with his faith, or extorts something by force, or commits a slander, or finds a lost thing, and commits a sin in addition, and commits any other of the many things in which men are wont to sin, shall be condemned.”

  17. Anonymous says:
    PUPPY WATCH

    there is no doubt that Peter Shill, the “floyd is everyone” misfit, is the one posting as clarence thomas. He was triggered by “Floyd” ridiculing him again yesterday.

    He is also the one who went off on Ralph, one of our most respected conservative commenters.

    Instead, Peter would ask us to believe that Floyd was cussing out Floyd.

    What a yoyo this guy Peter is. Notice that Shill, who used to only appear in the evenings, is now here all day.

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    Anonymous says:
    What is that called in troll speak?

    Maybe Peter Puppet Count can tell us

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    Anonymous says:
    Floyd Raises False Flag!!

    Floyd Estovir:

    We’ve seen, for years, how you treat fellow commenters. Your endless profanities, smearing of turds and countless references to ‘pedophiles’.

    Yet here you position yourself as an ‘old trusted friend’ with brand name credibility. What a joke!!

    Bear in mind that the blog’s moderator is a retired law enforcement officer who specializes in computer-related crimes. He knows Puppet Watch is a California-based non-profit. If all these efforts to crash the site were coming us, Mr Smith would be on it.

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    Anonymous says:
    There IS NO moderator, you stupid little twerp. We all know that you are the one disrupting the site and raising a false flag

    Reply
    Anonymous says:
    Name the no profit, coward

    Reply
    Anonymous says:
    If there were this genius law enforcement computer guy, why doesn’t eh know that Floyd is everyone?

    LMAO nice circular logic again there puppy watch

    Reply
    Puppy Watch says:
    PErhaps you’d like to tell us all a bout this non profit, Peter Shill. No need to worry, law enforcement Darren has your back.

    Reply
    Anonymous says:
    Thats what I thought

    Reply
    brandrunner902cbad416 says:
    If all these efforts to crash the site were coming us, Mr Smith would be on it.

    Um, why isn’t he “on it” then, retard? He wouldn’t be “on it” if it’s Floyd???

    You can’t even make silly sense.

  18. So here’s a legal question for Turley. If you have someone on s free speech platform that willfully tries to silence others by crashing or crowding the site with complete and utter garbage. Wouldn’t that person be violating everyone else’s first amendment rights to free speech?

    1. scat monkeys are gonna scat fling. As reasonable people we have to deal with the leftists and their sociological and psychological traumas and issues, for now. Let the babies scream until their heads explode, or we do it for them.

    2. ATS no one is tryitg to silence anyone. Even if they were – they have failed.

      IU have not trranslated this -= but much of if appears to be pasting copyrighted material.

      Regardless, it is mildly anoying. That is all

  19. Who the heck does Jack Smith think he is to upend the justice system? He’s rogue and must be stopped, he has no mandate, and his persecution of Trump is beyond illegal, it’s treason.

    1. My guess: Thomas gave Cannon the green light to declare Smith illegitimate. She rules he’s out. Eleventh Circuit agrees, Chutcan puts case on hold until the Supremes say yeah or nay. Trump gets inaugurated and this ends.

      1. I doubt Cannon is going to find Smith illegitimate – though he is. But she may require radically more oversight by DOJ – as Smith is only legitimate if he is INFERIOR to a US attorney. I suspect she will also require DOJ to copntrol his budget.

        But the immunity decision does open up a new way for Cannon to kill the case.

        The transfer of documents to MAL occured While Trump was president.

  20. Joe Biden just subscribed to Life Alert….Don’t be a alert…Be Life Alert

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